I understand that most of you benefit from MGTOW. Although, like most things in this world, it gives with one hand and takes away with the other. Remember 48 Laws of Power? Despise the free lunch. Let’s be honest here, most MGTOWs aren’t super high SMV chads, they’re probably elevated betas at most. Meaning, these aren’t the guys with an average body count of 20 plus. So what exactly are these individuals doing on forms like this? Seems to me that most MGTOWs lack sufficient secondary sexual characteristics in the dating game, but they have the ability to compensate for it with their intellect, which is why you exist. Unfortunately, smart people often fall prey to groupthink like everyone else, but can take things too far due to their own artificially created construct. I don’t think a dumb person is capable of becoming a MGTOW; it’s way too cerebral. So why mention this? Dumb people stick to the common path: it’s (relatively) safe, it’s celebrated, and it’s reinforced. Smart people on the other hand can fall prey to cult like ideologies because the rational mind always falls in love with its own creations.

I want to point out that there is social engineering going on around forms like MGTOW, 2XC, etc. Perhaps, we are the first generation undergoing social engineering on a large measure due to wide-scale Internet access? It sure seems like social engineering is being developed to cause both genders (particularly men) to become indifferent towards dating/mating. High quality VR porn/silicone wives, industrial divorce complex, and social forms (Reddit) are undoubtedly helping with that.

There is a big push for the dismantlement of the nuclear family through the popularization of hedonism, narcissism, and misogyny/misandry (Instagram/Tinder/Reddit). With most young men prioritizing FIRE/free time (essentially leaving the game), very few would be invested in the success of their community - just the success of the market. On the other hand, most women would be focused on "breaking barriers" and "climbing" the ladder, leaving any future children in the hands of outside supervision.

Men focused on their toys, women focused on their rank, and the child (if any) focused on being a good student.

So what is the end game? Perhaps, this is the new population control? Ultimately, if you’re a young man – seriously reconsider staying a MGTOW until you have at least one child (if you already have one/a couple – well done). Yes, plenty mentioned here is true, but don’t take everything as gospel. The devil is in the details.