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[–]ManIsWalking126 points127 points128 points (1 child) | Copy Link
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just dont go to normandy.
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If they want me to go to normandy. Women must suck my dick like im the king of normandy.
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This is basically why our modern armies have low morale, especially european armies.
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Don't go to Normandy *for a woman.
Nothing wrong or ignoble about it if you're doing it to defend your livelihood, principals, or nation.
Would I go to war for a woman? Hell no.
Would I go to war to protect my way of life and freedom? Hell yes.
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Most often than not you are defending women, the nation is just symbol.
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We don't live in a totalitarian feminist state quite like what you're describing here. I believe that despite there being obvious biases against men in society (from which I've personally suffered), men in this country still have the choice to tell that whole system to fuck off - hence why MGTOW can be such an effective vehicle for change if more men flock to it. Don't want to be subject to divorce settlements and child support? Don't get married and don't have kids. Don't want false rape allegations? Don't put yourself in a situation where a woman can cry rape.
Of course, that's not completely avoidable, but with reasonable effort it shouldn't be a problem for most men. Note, I'm not arguing that's how things should be, only that it's a good workaround to the way things are.
My whole point is that I can have my own personal reasons for wanting to defend my country and my way of life, and none of those are centered around women. Do women (and society in general) benefit from my actions in going to war for my country? Sure. But that's only a secondary side-effect of the real reason I would go and not one that I really give two shits about on a personal level.
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This is a very extreme viewpoint, in my opinion. What are the alternatives to said Western society? None of them are very good, when I consider the options. The entire argument here is "don't go to Normandy". It's one thing entirely to believe that maybe an overseas war in Europe isn't worth your life (again, I agree that no war since WW2 has had this justification), but an entirely different thing to say that you shouldn't defend western society if it comes under attack. It's current condition may not be great, but I shudder at the thought of what could replace it if it's not defended against those that would love to see it torn to pieces.
I'm a firm believer that the more men wake up from their societal grooming and realize that MGTOW is a serious movement, the faster things will start to shift back in a direction of balance and freedom. Just like with any other freedom, it can't be taken for granted and assumed, nor am I willing to watch the world around me fall apart because I'm dissatisfied with some elements of it.
I respect your opinion here, but I disagree.
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I agree, to an extent - but some wars ARE worth fighting. The last one in my opinion was WW2. Everything after that has been some kind of political farce.
Regardless, a choice I would personally make about whether or not I want to go to war (if I have a choice, that is) wouldn't factor in the comfort or protection of a woman in any case. My reasons would be my own, and they'd have to be very good ones to put my life on the line.
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Most women literally think they are living in a Romcom, or a Disney fairytale.
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