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Even surrogacy isn't safe...

victor_knight

January 1, 2017
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Title Even surrogacy isn't safe...
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victor_knight

Upvotes 2
Comments 9
Date January 1, 2017 3:23 PM UTC
(9 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MGTOW
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[–]Sol_Install3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

The only way a man can have his own kids is if the mother is dead. End of discussion. No matter what, humanity sees children as belonging to the mother. Look, I know accepting this hurts. Hell, I never wanted kids and it hurt me as well. But you guys have to accept this. This is what breaks men. Just suffering to be around "their" kids.

[–]EndlessPontification0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's sad, because women make terrible moms. They are only decent when the child is most like themselves, and that's when it's a baby that cries all the time. Once the kid can talk, the woman can't relate to it.

[–]victor_knight[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

The irony is that all the necessary technology and services are already in place, i.e. surrogacy can, in principle, be made perfectly legal for men and nannies can be subsidized to make it affordable for most men who would otherwise have to commit/marry. However, the state and medical establishment simply won't allow it. This is because they want men to commit to women and take care of them. But they also expect men to take it up the ass in court if things don't work out, as is quite likely to be the case given the statistics of divorce and the fact women initiate most of them.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

consider the child elton john created...

[–]victor_knight[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It is somewhat evident from things like this why surrogacy isn't available or even an option for most men in the world. Science per se has fuck to do with anything as scientists don't make the rules at the end of the day. All it takes is a bunch of manginas, SJWs and feminists in the right government and medical committees to utter words, like "Hitler" and "eugenics" and "Nazi" and that will be the end of that.

[–]bonusfruit1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Solution: surrogacy outside of the uk?

[–]Playstation_52 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nope. UK social services are still likely to position themselves as 'its not right that a single man has a child by themselves, there must be something dodgy going on'

[–]victor_knight[S] 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's possible but prohibitively expensive. If you expect the mother to be even remotely attractive (features, character, personal history), expect to pay what this guy did.

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