I know we all come here for the memes and easily digestible factoids and billboard like warnings, but here is a piece I wrote on my own sub (because you know, one day this place will get banned so I would like a back up copy of my philosophies). Enjoy!

Sorry for the long read by the way. Conclusion at the bottom.

I am not one who usually advocates to avoid women, or to seclude one's self in solitude. On the contrary, I think going out into the world and observing it and interacting with this chemistry is part of the human learning experience. One can formulate hypotheses all he wants, but to turn it into a theory one must follow the scientific method of conducting experimentation, collecting data, and deeply analyzing the results. I do this on the regular, and applying stoic principles it does not bother me that the world is going to utter shit...entropy will have its toll one way or another.

Recently I had a chance to talk to a woman of my own age. Maybe a year younger, but that doesn't matter too much as the only reason age would matter is that with age, women become more vocal of their views, and garner greater influence over younger women. This is a quick summary of said conversation. I will break this down into points she made, my counter, and the response.

Point 1: Behind every successful man there stands a woman.

Counter: Did Bill Gates' wife code windows and give it to him? Gates released the first retail copy of Windows in 1985, and got married in 1994. That is almost a 10 year time gap in which Microsoft launched 9 new versions of windows including NT. Elon musk managed to create zip2, sell it for 10 million, and found paypal BEFORE his first marriage. Jeff Bezos Worked for multiple companies as head of development, director of customer service, and product manager, and became D. E. Shaw's fourth senior vice-president at the age of 30 (1994). He only got married in 1993 and knew his wife for less than a year, who then divorced him to make a but load of money. Response: None.

Point 2: If a man that loves me gives up on me after I turn him down the first time, is a weak man.

Counter: No, this man simply understands that there are plenty of women out there and that he can fall in love again. Love, is...essentially, a hormonal response. A weak man is a man who chases one woman for ever getting no response because he doesn't have the balls to move on and try new things. Just how a woman want's to try several men before picking "the one", men have full right to go after multiple women and to try different approaches. There is no universal law that says men need to chase women. Response: So if a woman told you no what would you do? Me: I would hit up my side chick to go chill. Response: OH MY GOD YOU HAVE A BACK UP? Me: And you don't? Don't bullshit me. (it was written all over her face). Response: None

Point 3: You just haven't found that special somebody yet.

Counter: I have multiple times, and things didn't work out. Response: Then those weren't special sombodies. Me: So if you fell in love and then that man cheated on you and you broke up...what is that then? Response: None

Point 4: Every person has that one special somebody out there.

Counter: Yep. That person is Me, myself and I. My #1 Priority is to develop myself into the best version of me possible. Response: That is selfish, you need to risk and put in effort into other people as well. Me: So the mentoring of other men that I do, the interns that I train at work, the family I help support, and maintaining my family estate doesn't count? Response: We are talking about women here, not work. Every man needs a woman in his life, every man gets lonely. Me: Being alone does not mean lonely, I have plenty of things I can do to and plenty of obligations I have to keep. Adding a woman to the list will be just a burden. Response: But she can help you (back to point 1) You can ask her to help you carry your burden. Me: Life is not a burden to me, it is an inevitable happening. So let's say we got married, I would need you to make me lunch for work every night, cook dinner so when I get home from work I don't have to spend 30 minutes making food. Take care of my estate while I am gone (this includes animals, farm animals, my bee hives, my swimming pool, all my plants, fruit trees, garden, vegetables, cut the grass, etc). If you can do this, I will marry you right here right now because that is all you will have to do is stay in my million dollar home and take care of it while I bring home the money and take care of you financially. Response: I am pretty sure I can learn, but I can't cook, work takes up too much of my time that I didn't learn. Also, I don't want to live on a farm/ranch, I am okay with my apartment downtown...(AKA she doesn't know how to do anything and has no education or even a productive job). Me: Then what use are you to me? How can you possibly help someone like me to carry my "burden"? Response: Well maybe you should sacrifice some things for the person you love. Me: You mean sacrifice everything my family has built for 3 generations for some girl who can't even make me breakfast? Honey, I work, have my own business, and take care of all of that and still have time for this conversation.

As you can see (if you read all of it) that women have this loop. The steps are simple. First they tell you that women rule the world behind the scenes. Then they tell you you are weak and if you were strong then you would have a woman behind the scenes like in step 1. Then they tell you that maybe you just need to wait for the right woman. And lastly, we come full circle, that you need a woman behind the scenes, regardless of how useless she is.

Modern woman cannot fathom the idea of a independent man. A man, who stands on his own two feet, and does what he wants to do. A man who does everything for himself, and needs no one. They seriously think that Men cannot live without women. And on a biological scale this is true, it is just no longer necessary for every single man to procreate. The only word I can use to describe them, is pompous: affectedly and irritatingly grand, solemn, or self-important.

Honestly I enjoy these discussions with women. Using simple wikipedia facts one can pretty much crush their dreams. And the crazy thing is, this was not a feminist. You don't need to be a feminist to believe the loop of "you need me, you find me, you take care of me".

Doing a bit of analysis, there are 3 main reasons all of this is happening.

The first reason I came to is the internet. The internet has allowed women to get increasingly lazy and distracted. This includes men as well, but that isn't the topic. With the ease that women can now spend money, trigger their dopamine receptors, and get attention, they really think that basic life skills and brains aren't necessary. Education, is not the same as thinking for ones self.

The second, education. Sure, feminism allowed more woman than ever (and really, men allowed women) to get higher education and take higher positions in fields the couldn't before. The issue though, is before they had to actually work hard, be challenged, and face adversity to reach their goals if such existed. Now, there is next to no challenge. Simply memorize material, pass tests, learn the job, and repeat every day. You might think...then how did men continue to grow without these "challenges" blocking their way? It is because a man's work is judged by more than just his performance. The bar was always set higher for men. If women had to over come and prove they are skilled enough for a field. Men had to prove they are the BEST in their field, as well as take responsibility for failure. If one cannot hold a position, one cannot be responsible for its consequences. On top of all of that, men are inherently competitive with each other and artificially challenge each other to grow. Women's significantly weaker shell (yet cunning and rock hard souls) doesn't like to compete. Women HATE competing with other women and especially men. This is why they would rather figure out ways to remove competition, than to overcome it out right.

And the third, exposure to the past. Huh? The way society functions today, is actually a fairly recent occurrence. Even though it started back in the middle of the 1900's, it didn't accelerate exponentially till about 1990. The new way of thinking imposed on my generation was revolutionary compared to the way my parents of the 60's/70's thought. Back then sure, a man without a woman was frowned upon, and back then, men worked harder, and more and women were still being taught fundamental womanly skills by their mothers from the ww2 era. As more women went to work the less skills they were taught, and by the time you get to my generation, no one is being taught anything. You ever hear the saying, monkey see monkey do? Well, why is it not "monkey learn monkey do"? Because when the monkey sees how things are supposed to be, that is how they want things to be. Women see how back in the day everything was about getting married and having a family etc, and they want that too, but they aren't taught on WHY it was so important back then. It was just tougher to survive alone out there back then, and especially after the great wars, who knew if one would live long enough to get married after establishing a successful career by 35. What if the soviets nuked the world? So many historical factors played into the reasons behind marriage back in those days that simply do not apply to today. But this is not explained to our generation, and we simply thing that all men need women, and that is that. Women see, women want. Men have become just another consumer good to them. I hope this third point makes sense, as it took me a while to ponder up this conclusion.

Of course, there is the radical feminist push that is trying to make sure that these 3 factors continue. There is always somebody with an agenda out there.

In conclusion, women think that men just can't go without them! They also don't realize why we can in fact exist on our own and be happy. They wan't a life that their mom's had, a dad that takes care of them, and all with zero effort on their part. A knight in shinning armor will eventually find them, and when they get bored of playing princess...it will all come crashing down.

I personally advocate avoiding all wahmans under all circumstances, but you learn that by taking this guy's advice and dealing with them. Think of it like a vaccine against thottery, except actually effective and without the political bullshit.