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lol men are statistically not nearly as picky about breast or lips, as women are for jaw definition and height. Not even close
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 01:29 AM
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Because the keys to true sexual attraction are different for men and women. Jaw surgery is a pretty intense form of ‘glowing up’
/r/PurplePillDebate19/02/21 12:17 AM
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The most tempting of all myths. Even I need reminders often.
/r/MGTOW18/02/21 10:43 PM
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I came here to laugh very loud too, you beat me to it. Funniest shit I’ve heard all day
/r/MGTOW18/02/21 10:35 PM
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Horrifying
/r/MGTOW17/02/21 11:34 PM
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Good thing you got to witness the behind-the-scenes truth at such a young age; you are all the wiser for it.
/r/MGTOW213/02/21 08:35 PM
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Many mgtow still fuck girls, this is actually really important advice, especially for the younger dudes.
/r/MGTOW213/02/21 06:14 AM
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Give some reasoning?
/r/MGTOW13/02/21 04:27 AM
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This
/r/MGTOW13/02/21 04:01 AM
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least surprising thing I’ve seen all day
/r/MGTOW13/02/21 03:49 AM
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Hypoagency is such a brilliant concept
/r/MGTOW12/02/21 07:29 PM
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Damn great read, no wonder this book got phased out from modern public schools
/r/MGTOW12/02/21 12:57 AM
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I’d hardly define the Chad experience as necessarily winning.
/r/MGTOW207/02/21 09:23 AM
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I wish I had more time for a response, but I have a couple thoughts I can give real quick— You’re already making moves, asking the right questions and doing it for the right reasons. In one respect that puts you ahead of many people. Get a much better working understanding of courage. Your examples, I.e. fighting lions or whatever is not courage. Watch Quasimandias YouTube videos on Courage. If you do anything from this sub, just do this. 100% move out. Find someone online who has moved out in a…
/r/MGTOW207/02/21 09:17 AM
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I wish I had more time for a response, but I have a couple thoughts I can give real quick— You’re already making moves, asking the right questions and doing it for the right reasons. In one respect that puts you ahead of many people. Get a much better working understanding of courage. Your examples, I.e. fighting lions or whatever is not courage. Watch Quasimandias YouTube videos on Courage. If you do anything from this sub, just do this. 100% move out. Find someone online who has moved out in a…
/r/MGTOW207/02/21 09:16 AM
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You’re being abused
/r/MGTOW04/02/21 02:52 AM
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Great post, appreciate you sharing
/r/MGTOW204/02/21 02:47 AM
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Goddamn this needed to be said. Brilliant post.
/r/MGTOW201/02/21 06:57 AM
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Bright future. Thanks for the insight
/r/MGTOW31/01/21 09:04 PM
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Biology
/r/MGTOW27/01/21 11:40 PM
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THIS. My new favorite post in this sub. I’ve said something similar for a while: do not be upset by what you can’t control, instead find a way to benefit. Exist within and without the system; benefit from both. Great post dude.
/r/MGTOW27/01/21 08:52 PM
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Nope, go for it. Civility is all we ask
/r/MGTOW26/01/21 04:23 AM
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This is much more MRA than MGTOW. Appreciate the effort, but these types of impositions won’t ever work..
/r/MGTOW226/01/21 01:24 AM
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Yeah it’s a fools errand to make prediction at that scale, for sure. Just having fun with biological/cultural predictions ;) And yeah, nothing fundamental will change, that’s one prediction that’s actually pretty easy. AWAW: all women are women... and they always will be.
/r/MGTOW25/01/21 06:50 PM
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I have a sliver of hope for SOME aspects of 2030s women (as far as culture goes. Biology still dissuades next from relationships). And I think 2020 guys are gonna be pretty tough by the year 2045
/r/MGTOW25/01/21 05:41 PM
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lol I love wsb
/r/MGTOW25/01/21 07:16 AM
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dude you literally don’t have thousands of better, more interesting, goal-oriented things to do with your limited life?
/r/MGTOW25/01/21 07:09 AM
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..was it ever alive
/r/MGTOW25/01/21 07:07 AM
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‘Awesomeness’ ‘World-building ability’ ‘Harem of women’ First ones that come to mind. Fun homework assignment
/r/MGTOW25/01/21 01:27 AM
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Learn to focus, and find something that interests you more than anything else, whether it makes your rich or not.
/r/MGTOW225/01/21 01:19 AM
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Sorry to hear you had to go thru that stress. Yeah don’t get me wrong, we have a long rocky road ahead, and, at least for some of us more individualistic men, relationships are just never really going to be wanted. But there’s going to be a tipping point where the average man has tapped out too much from modern society and dating, and when that equilibrium starts to hit I predict a mass (albeit minor) behavioral change. Most dudes who are 1 blowjob away from the plantation will head on back. But…
/r/MGTOW25/01/21 12:40 AM
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Love it, the minimalist approach to fitness is brilliant. Personally, I use the kettlebell with calisthenics, and am in damn good shape. Get it dude!
/r/MGTOW24/01/21 09:21 PM
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Your way is YOUR way. You do you, just be safe and ethical. All the best dude!
/r/MGTOW24/01/21 09:17 PM
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Absolutely agreed. I have hope for the 90s and 2000s kids
/r/MGTOW24/01/21 07:14 PM
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AWALT is referring to universality of behavior, not one behavior specifically. You misunderstand my argument, hypergamy doesn’t not follow food and water, I am merely using food and water to simply illustrate universal behaviors, since it seems to be hard to grasp for many. Hypergamy too is in fact universal. Again, the differences you are seeing have more to do with differences of circumstance to the individual, not differences in inherent human traits. All women attempt to maximize their matin…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 07:13 PM
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I’ve thought often about this too, as I’m in the young and never married crowd (thanks to the OGs for imparting their knowledge and allowing me to learn from other’s mistakes). I don’t think it’s likely that anyone who thinks this way is likely to get married, however, I see our trend combining with the trend of young women, and a new type of ‘dating emerging’. The next generation of women is going to look very harshly at the women of our generation (it’s already happening), and in their quest t…
/r/MGTOW24/01/21 06:58 PM
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Man again, excellent excellent post. Haha can’t believe I actually got a good read out of a post as absolutely fucking low IQ as OP’s post haha. Yeah I have quite a bit of interaction with disenfranchised young men in my real life, and although I’d never mention mgtow to them, I hope that I do my small part to push them to a life where they can at least get some contentment and enjoyment despite women behaving viciously to them. Glad you’re out there doin your part too, much appreciated.
/r/MGTOW224/01/21 08:06 AM
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Unrelated to this idiots post, but man this awesome to hear, I’m glad that you were able to make the jump. Wish you the best dude, and thanks for the well thought-out post.
/r/MGTOW224/01/21 07:51 AM
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you’re the one who offered a woman as a prize. You must be a sexist yourself
/r/MGTOW224/01/21 07:44 AM
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well if you’re just gonna change the definition of words to suit your meaning then you’re not looking to actually learn anything and have your mind changed. Good luck with that
/r/MGTOW224/01/21 07:43 AM
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AWALT: all women need food, for example. Disagree?
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 07:40 AM
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That’s true, I wouldn’t want another human being as a prize. How about an award
/r/MGTOW224/01/21 07:39 AM
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lol well.. I don’t think you having much of a grasp of the term incel.. because if the men on here have had relationships with women... then, by definition, these men are not involuntarily celibate. Moreover, the definition is in the name: MGTOW, meaning men going their own way, implies that the lifestyle is voluntary. Not INvoluntary. As in, not involuntarily celibate. Proven wrong. What’s my prize?
/r/MGTOW224/01/21 07:37 AM
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Good point. Yeah special is a very relevant, narrow term.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 02:54 AM
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The need for H2O is universal, for example
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 02:52 AM
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It’s shocking to me that this is at all controversial, or perceived as negative... AWALT just encapsulates the concept that all women are women. The female sapiens has universal behavioral traits. Any perceived differences have more to do with the circumstances of the individual, than they have to do with conscious choices or personality; For example, all female sapiens will behave the virtually the same and within a narrow scope of behavior when faced with the same environmental circumstance, l…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/21 12:26 AM
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shocking
/r/MGTOW23/01/21 08:27 PM
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What’s the difference
/r/MGTOW20/01/21 11:50 PM
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I like it. Pay it forward
/r/MGTOW220/01/21 10:46 PM
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Thanks man you too
/r/MGTOW20/01/21 10:02 PM
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You too man
/r/MGTOW20/01/21 09:22 PM
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Thanks. I’m not, but maybe I helped out a bit last night, I hope
/r/MGTOW20/01/21 09:21 PM
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It extremely hard to weigh the risks. Anything could have happened when I let that kid into my house... and then it would have been just another failure, and another teaching point to never lend a hand. I don’t know the answer. But someone once took a risk for you, and for me. So maybe we take just 1 risk too, and pay it forward. Glad to hear it man, I hope you keep pushing and doing well for yourself.
/r/MGTOW220/01/21 09:20 PM
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Same. Unfortunately it wasn’t very organic to mention mgtow or anything, but we discussed the ideas in no unclear terms. We together got to conclusion that maybe he wants to take a break from women, and focus on himself. We’ll see, maybe the seed grows
/r/MGTOW20/01/21 09:17 PM
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lol no... not even close
/r/MGTOW220/01/21 01:12 PM
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Hahahaha Haha Haha Can you imagine wasting your time on a dating app? I am an internet kid, and have never even downloaded one of them in my life. Can’t imagine a bigger waste of time.
/r/MGTOW220/01/21 03:42 AM
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Agreed. I think a much more useful acronym as AWAW- All Women Are Women.
/r/MGTOW220/01/21 02:50 AM
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Would be a really good thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/21 08:16 PM
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This. This is a great comment, I live by these same rules, despite often feeling conflicted like OP
/r/MGTOW19/01/21 07:59 PM
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I am struggling with this too. I met a kid recently who has an eating disorder. I just wanna help the dude out. But the risk is too great, the effort could steer me off course, and has in the past proven to be dangerous too many times. So I do nothing. I’m not particularly good at this part, but something tells me the trick is to first treat yourself the way you would want to treat someone else who you care deeply about. Externally I think this also increases the care others show you (at least s…
/r/MGTOW19/01/21 06:57 AM
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What
/r/MGTOW219/01/21 12:30 AM
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Yes, but they are still women
/r/MGTOW18/01/21 12:15 PM
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This is a good thing
/r/MGTOW18/01/21 12:08 PM
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Excellent work man
/r/MGTOW218/01/21 02:34 AM
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You expect it from the first guy. It’s really eye opening when you learn that most chads are closer to this meme than you’d think....
/r/MGTOW17/01/21 11:54 PM
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In many ways, yes, but also in many ways society expects less of you, which gives you a freedom that our ancestors never experienced. For example, we’re no longer expected to serve in a military force, marry, have kids, die for king and country, etc, to the same extent as the vast majority of our male ancestors had pressure to do. In a sense, modern ‘equality’, has actually provided many unforeseen benefits to men, if one has the savvy to take advantage.
/r/MGTOW17/01/21 10:48 AM
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It has, many many times, just not in its totality. All empires fall
/r/MGTOW17/01/21 10:44 AM
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Yeah man, go live life! Do all the great things male sapiens do. Just be cautious and safe. MGTOW is a great resource to learn how to minimize risks and maximize life. Enjoy man, it’s your life.
/r/MGTOW217/01/21 05:36 AM
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yes. It probably would not have mattered tho, that type of psychological damages done early in his life at the hands of his family... there’s not really any philosophy that can undo that.
/r/MGTOW217/01/21 04:44 AM
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Hell
/r/MGTOW216/01/21 09:19 PM
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what the fuck did I just read
/r/MGTOW16/01/21 09:44 AM
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Crypto goes extremely well with MGTOW
/r/MGTOW216/01/21 05:40 AM
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Hahaha holy fuck what a great use of this limited amount of time we call life
/r/MGTOW16/01/21 12:44 AM
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Sure, live your life however you wish. Good luck, hope it works out for you
/r/MGTOW215/01/21 11:17 PM
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Nothing
/r/MGTOW215/01/21 07:28 PM
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Depressing... insightful, correct, ... but depressing...
/r/MGTOW15/01/21 09:44 AM
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hahaha that’s hilarious
/r/MGTOW14/01/21 09:44 PM
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Anytime man, enjoy. I started with Colltaine too, he put statistics to how I was already feeling and the rest of history. Completely changed my world for the better
/r/MGTOW14/01/21 08:07 PM
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‘I should be be food enough to date or hook up with’... ‘Should’. ? You’re clearly not. Either level up and become good enough, or go MGTOW and don’t sweat the pointless rat race female attention.
/r/MGTOW214/01/21 10:51 AM
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Appreciate you sharing high quality content, will have to check it out
/r/MGTOW14/01/21 10:43 AM
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Dude that was an epic answer. Hope your boy can find a life like that someday too. I’m about to get stoned and do a yoga session to a new album I’m jamming to, and have a deep-thinking session and plan my strategy for tomorrow while stretching. So fucking chill.
/r/MGTOW14/01/21 08:27 AM
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Sorry to hear that man, that’s brutal. But welcome, and good on you for standing up. I highly recommend content producers Stardusk, Colltaine, and Barbarossa. Enjoy the rabbit hole
/r/MGTOW14/01/21 08:12 AM
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Dude, great title, that was the white pill I needed for the day. I’ve been seeing this headline circulate and my response so far has just been ‘good, I seriously don’t want your fucking help anyway.’ And your title is a great next chapter to that attitude. Keep pushing, and be thankful for a tough life!
/r/MGTOW14/01/21 04:47 AM
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Yeah that’s great. Happy for him. There’s plenty of girls like that, I know many myself. I’ve even dated a 9/10 unicorn. They’re still biologically female, and sharing life with another person still infringes on a man’s autonomy. There’s no counter argument to female biology. AWAW, All Women Are Women: a much better acronym than awalt.
/r/MGTOW14/01/21 04:33 AM
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Who cares what anyone wants to fuck? If you’re a good man, we’re with you.
/r/MGTOW213/01/21 08:04 AM
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Great question. I don’t have a good answer, but the thought that came to mine first is that we are in such an Unprecedented time, that our hero has not existed yet. However, because we are the most informed populace in the history of the planet, we have the benefit of assembling our own archetypal figures from the puzzle pieces of history. Strive to be your own hero. That is MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 08:03 AM
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Honestly, that might be the catalyst to get rid of reddit, and maybe some other social media
/r/MGTOW13/01/21 01:24 AM
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It’ll never fully leave, not if you pay attention to human behavior. But your focus will shift, you’ll realize how to use it to your benefit, or, in the least, not let it hurt you. I recommend taking up a martial art.
/r/MGTOW12/01/21 09:43 PM
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Didn’t want your fucking help anyway... not thrilled he’s gonna fuck over my fellow minority countrymen... Fuck these racist politicians
/r/MGTOW11/01/21 05:24 AM
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All the more reason to stay apolitical. Fuck the theatre
/r/MGTOW10/01/21 08:16 AM
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haha good, even better the more people think this way.
/r/MGTOW09/01/21 12:55 PM
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Ah okay got you. Okay in this scenario, I’d certainly break the law and go on the lam. As the signs have been mounting up that this would be the what the future holds, I acquire the assets to be able to disappear from society, live off the grid. I cannot obey laws that force freedom of association in ones private life. It’s bad enough to obey laws that force wealth distribution through coercion. When the FBI finally catches me and the networks of off the grid communes I’ve been traveling from al…
/r/MGTOW09/01/21 10:38 AM
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In your scenario?
/r/MGTOW09/01/21 09:51 AM
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lol I’d be long gone, new country
/r/MGTOW09/01/21 09:43 AM
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Why do you think we all support trump....?
/r/MGTOW09/01/21 07:24 AM
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Goddamn I hate the fucking censorship. Fuck AHS
/r/MGTOW09/01/21 03:41 AM
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Absolutely agree. For every sub I have joined who’s ideas I agree with, I try to sub to its opposite. For example, I’ve joined FDS and feminist subs for this reason. That being said, there is no counter argument to get married.
/r/MGTOW09/01/21 03:41 AM
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Same, I see a future composed of much more individualistic people, both men and women, and am curious to see how this will affect culture and progress. I actually have a pretty sunny view of the future, and MGTOW is evidence of that. Videos like this push us forward imo
/r/MGTOW09/01/21 01:29 AM
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You’ll get past the red-pill rage soon, don’t worry
/r/MGTOW09/01/21 01:28 AM
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AWAW
/r/MGTOW09/01/21 01:27 AM
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Haha that too. Can you imagine ranking people’s value based on what they can do for you, and then talking about leasing out your attention? Yet it’s us that objectify them ...
/r/MGTOW09/01/21 01:26 AM
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No better satire than reality
/r/MGTOW09/01/21 01:24 AM
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This
/r/MGTOW09/01/21 01:23 AM
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Makes sense, thanks. Trust me on #2, don’t play that game, they’re way way better at it than you. You’ll lose eventually. Haha, great post tho. I’ve posted before calling for men to build autonomy, and be able to work within and without the system. Be able to drop everything on a dime and leave, but also be able to use it to your advantage and leverage resources from it. Bonus if you can go back and forth...
/r/MGTOW08/01/21 02:15 AM
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Haha great post, I assume a lot is tongue in check, but I appreciate the spirit of it. Can you expand on charity tax write offs, I assume you’re talking about calculating a % of tax you paid that went to foreign countries etc from the ‘Covid relief’ bill, and writing that off under charitable contributions? The only thing I’ll add is that for #2, definitely compete with women and treat them equally, but don’t ever use their tactics (like gossip). They are much much better at it than you are, and…
/r/MGTOW08/01/21 12:25 AM
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Absolutely. Exist within and without the system, BTC makes that more and more possible every day.
/r/MGTOW07/01/21 08:47 PM
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Totally get you, lawsuits sounds like such a huge amount of excruciating work
/r/MGTOW06/01/21 11:17 AM
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Wonder if this gives you grounds to sue?
/r/MGTOW06/01/21 04:16 AM
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Shocking
/r/MGTOW06/01/21 01:06 AM
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Damn excellent work man, keep pushing
/r/MGTOW204/01/21 11:07 PM
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One time a guy in mgtow posted his mgtow ring lol. Was super tempted to screenshot and share in an FDS ring post. I assume hilarity would ensue ?
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 09:47 PM
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lol no mgtow has never said that, nice straw man. Also, everyone bats an eye, mgtow is pretty universally hated from all sides.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 09:34 PM
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Hahahahaha haha MGTOW is what happens after you learn game if you have a couple brain cells left
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 08:26 PM
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Haha I suggest you look into the complexity of designing AI a bit more..
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/21 09:34 AM
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Enjoy this life, it’s yours.
/r/MGTOW04/01/21 05:10 AM
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Yeah I have noticed basically every men’s ‘group’ has the same issue: hostility to our differences, instead of a celebration of our shared masculinity. It’s too bad, imagine what we’d accomplish altogether.
/r/MGTOW203/01/21 08:49 AM
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Congrats, every man to his own life. If you’re doin well I’m happy for you
/r/MGTOW203/01/21 08:44 AM
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You’ll get there
/r/MGTOW03/01/21 05:38 AM
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Man, I appreciate you spending the time to give perspective and share your story. Great post. Really happy to hear that you’re doing well man, keep pushing forward.
/r/MGTOW03/01/21 05:20 AM
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this
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:49 AM
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lol I don’t think you’re disproving anything the way you think you are...
/r/PurplePillDebate03/01/21 02:44 AM
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Do your thing
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 03:23 AM
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I want to learn. These ‘echo chambers’ are a great way to do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/21 02:42 AM
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Some of it is up to you. Focus on that part, and keep peaking year after year.
/r/MGTOW02/01/21 01:15 AM
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Perfect, I feel the same for you, we’re on the same page
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:57 AM
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Relax, just the commentary, nothing else
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:51 AM
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You want my commentary
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:44 AM
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Wow purge week is the Wild West. Did your family severely minimize your problems when you were young?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:42 AM
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Chad is hot though. The black pill is real
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:40 AM
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Thanks for sharing, great study, looked very well done to me
/r/MGTOW01/01/21 11:38 AM
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Another reason to MGTOW. Doesn’t really matter if you lie anyway, we have statistics and pattern recognition. We can approximate a good guess.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:34 AM
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no that’s fucking disgusting
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 11:31 AM
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I was already sold on the idea of there being more cons to marriage for men than pros. Thanks, no I’m sold the same way for women. Completely agree with your comment, interesting perspective. Marriage is antiquated.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 09:12 AM
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Imagine not being sexually attracted to someone
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 09:09 AM
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What’s in it for them??
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 09:08 AM
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Green tea definitely! And nice work, great start to the new year
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/21 04:19 AM
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Damn nice work
/r/MGTOW01/01/21 02:00 AM
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-shiver-
/r/MGTOW201/01/21 12:58 AM
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Any chance you’d tell us more about suing the company? That’s really interesting. Good for you
/r/MGTOW31/12/20 11:28 AM
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Thanks for spreading more insight from the front lines. And co grays on getting out of the rat race. Live life
/r/MGTOW31/12/20 11:20 AM
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Mg-tao
/r/MGTOW31/12/20 11:15 AM
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Excellent advice
/r/MGTOW31/12/20 08:13 AM
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No, I am MGTOW so that I am free, and can continuously be working on building autonomy. Any relationship where the other is reliant on my resources and time impedes that’s autonomy. Plus I know too much about human nature to put myself in a long term relationship of any sort. Good question tho, it’s important to consider these things.
/r/MGTOW231/12/20 05:05 AM
2

Excellent work, really glad to read this
/r/MGTOW231/12/20 02:49 AM
1

You’re a legend
/r/MGTOW231/12/20 02:40 AM
16

I saw an older couple at the grocery store today talking about apple sauce for a good 5 solid minutes. The woman just kept going on and on about what brand, and the guy was like ok, ok, over and over, dead inside. The woman literally arguing with no one. That man might have been a successful engineer, or day trader, or muay Thai black belt. Instead he’s a house husband who has spent days upon days of accumulated time talking and arguing about absolutely nothing. About apple sauce brands. I shive…
/r/MGTOW231/12/20 02:34 AM
1

They’re pretty based
/r/MGTOW231/12/20 02:23 AM
1

Hahaha this is great. Did you share on r/politicalcompassmemes?
/r/MGTOW231/12/20 01:36 AM
1

Excellent thinking
/r/MGTOW30/12/20 11:52 PM
2

Absolutely
/r/MGTOW30/12/20 11:42 PM
9

James Bond... biggest simp hiding in broad daylight. Hiding behind all that alpha masculinity.
/r/MGTOW230/12/20 10:46 AM
35

I really like FDS, can’t believe anyone actually wants it banned
/r/MGTOW30/12/20 10:32 AM
32

Completely agreed. Autonomy is built, and it is possibly the most important thing to the philosophy, and to man’s life. The most important move is to pursue a career that genuinely interests you, so that you never get burnt out. You become addicted to it, and the money will follow easily. Be interested and passionate. Saving is great, but it’s always speculative. Instead, focus on always leveraging your current position into positions to make more money. Account for skills acquisition as you go;…
/r/MGTOW29/12/20 03:27 AM
11

Hahahaha so forget the 100 years of feminism in the west? What were they fighting for then? Haha wow this blew my mind
/r/MGTOW29/12/20 12:22 AM
32

Hi Will, My worry is that you are incentivized to focus on the more extreme people who identify with the acronym, as opposed to covering some of the philosophies and rationalities that have contributed to the personal choice a man might make to not get married or be in a long-term relationship. Can you address this concern? Anyway, best of luck on the piece and I hope that it is done in good faith.
/r/MGTOW228/12/20 07:54 PM
5

I... think you just proved my point? Correct me if I’m wrong but TRP is just an observation of mating behaviors, boiled down to their essentials. Sure, it has focus on the majority generalities, and sure you can give me anecdotal examples of people outside these generalities, but you are confirming that there are a variety of evolutionarily beneficial mating strategies. Some of which is the focus of TRP due to these strategies being in the majority, more common, more adaptive. If these weren’t t…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 07:39 PM
1

Too bad, would have been great to get your take
/r/MGTOW228/12/20 06:47 PM
3

lol or you could just pick and chose which threads you engage in..?
/r/MGTOW228/12/20 06:46 PM
5

This is sub is full of independent thinkers, that’s why it’s a useful question to pose to this sub.
/r/MGTOW228/12/20 06:44 PM
1

My understanding is that the masks are not very effective, especially after 20 min of wearing one. That being said, it’s understandable the grasping at anything that helps in the face of such a novel event such as the first global pandemic. With that comes everyone’s individual incentives, and the usual suspects are always very suspicious and should be looked at closely, tho no surprises that any event is reacted to in the usual power grab. So many moving parts, it’s hard to know where to look a…
/r/MGTOW228/12/20 06:43 PM
5

All women are women; AWAW. Yes there can be cultural differences, but I think most men here agree that the reason we avoid long-term relationships has far more to do with biology than culture.
/r/MGTOW28/12/20 08:51 AM
1

hahahahaha Hahaha
/r/MGTOW28/12/20 05:19 AM
1

Agreed, I think that is one of the things that make his thinking superior, and his success and admiration is a testament to that. I only say it is tough but worth the read because many of the younger men I have recommended it to do not have any experience reading in a style other than modernist writings, and so I acknowledge that it can be a tough read to give them confidence that it’s not their own intellect that’s diminished. But I assure them that it’s worth it.
/r/MGTOW228/12/20 04:25 AM
2

Congrats on your superior reading comprehension skills :)
/r/MGTOW228/12/20 04:14 AM
3

You’re right, I misunderstood OPs question, I was thinking only about the bonding chemicals, oxytocin, vasopressin, dopamine that are involved and released during mate selection and mating as a means to drive mammals to reproduce and care for their young. As for those chemicals used to actually bond with a member of the opposite sex, yes that is very rare in terms of monogamy. My understanding was that lifelong monogamy is even rarer than 5% right?
/r/MGTOW28/12/20 04:09 AM
2

All mammals, yes, it is a massive evolutionary advantage to successfully raising offspring. Edit: I misunderstood OPs question, I was thinking about the chemicals related to child rearing. See responses below.
/r/MGTOW28/12/20 03:10 AM
20

Long before you ever get to anything ‘red-pill’, you’d have to completely debunk evolutionary biology...
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/20 03:09 AM
31

I hope people are.. this will probably get deleted from unpopular opinions. Regardless, I agree, anyone can be labeled ‘abusive’, ‘violent’, etc for things that are not even close to those categories, and get their live’s destroyed.
/r/MGTOW27/12/20 09:32 PM
33

It’s your life, it’s your choice. I’d say as long as you breakup in an ethical way and be an adult about it, I wouldn’t consider it toxic.
/r/MGTOW27/12/20 09:26 PM
3

Great read, it’s tough but well worth it. Also, this quote here is insanely hard to pull off, moment by moment.
/r/MGTOW224/12/20 12:41 PM
2

Yeah I think this is right. I just wish PUA would talk about the severe risks involved; watch those guys over a long enough period of time, most of them become empty shells devoid of meaning in their life.
/r/MGTOW224/12/20 10:56 AM
8

I think what he’s trying to say- very eloquently- is because the girlfriend is deceitful, we do not know what her true intentions are. But because we have some knowledge of human behavior, it’s not outside the realm of possibility that she is traveling to anonymously satisfy her reproductive desire for ‘alpha seed’, but knows that since she has invested in this young man who had a stable future in front of him, she could possibly come back, perhaps even pregnant, fulfilling her dual-purpose repr…
/r/MGTOW224/12/20 09:40 AM
3

I know you’re going to get a few comments blowing you off, since this seems like the wrong place to be asking about relationship advice. But I’ll give a comment since you asked, and since I feel it’s important to do my small part to help men’s mental health, since it’s often negated by society (you are, after all, asking for help on an anonymous subreddit, instead of with a trusted family member or friend). So here goes. Why do you not respect yourself enough to associate with someone who lies t…
/r/MGTOW224/12/20 09:34 AM
27

Yes, grey-man lifestyle negates of a ton of stresses, completely nips them at the bud. My car used to get broken into once every few years. When I downgraded and let the exterior get beat up, didn’t repair, lo-and-behold, it hasn’t been broken into since.
/r/MGTOW24/12/20 09:13 AM
16

Thanks for the report from the front lines, and mad respect to your accomplishments man. Glad you spent some for yourself. If you ever wanted to indulge a bit more but get some feelings of joy out of it, I highly recommend splurging on some one-on-one Brazilian Jui-Jitsu lessons. I find myself in a similar position (your story gives me some more anecdotal confirmation that a lot of us are not the losers society might wish us to be, ha), and so too find myself oftentimes upset at the situation. L…
/r/MGTOW224/12/20 08:46 AM
11

cannot believe the internet can still surprise me at this point....
/r/MGTOW24/12/20 01:54 AM
2

This
/r/MGTOW224/12/20 01:02 AM
3

Yes. GYOW
/r/MGTOW224/12/20 01:01 AM
8

Well yeah... nothing matters existentially... but you’re missing the major point, it matters to you. If it didn’t, you wouldn’t have an opinion on your life right now. Go live a fuckin beautiful life just for a week, come back here and tell me again how it doesn’t matter.
/r/MGTOW23/12/20 08:57 AM
2

Really sorry to hear all that man. You came to the right place, you can always use this sub to bounce ideas off, get a second perspective, etc. Excellent work on the plan, despite being dragged through hell you are still working it, and it will definitely pay off. Imagine sitting in the wilderness of your newly owned front ‘yard’, surrounding by peaceful tranquility and liveliness of the forest. You’ll take just a moment of gratitude for pushing through absolute hell, looking back. Make your dad…
/r/MGTOW23/12/20 08:44 AM
1

This
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/20 03:56 AM
2

Letters to a Young Contrarian- Christopher Hitchens The Moral Landscape- Sam Harris
/r/MGTOW223/12/20 01:39 AM
68

Hahaha this would be fucking brilliant
/r/MGTOW22/12/20 11:13 PM
1

You are not a mind reader. A hostile comment does not equate to hate. And if that is actually your goal... I highly recommend reading up on persuasion, because what you’re doing is backfiring. There might be men on here who do genuinely hate women. What do you think the solution is? I’d recommend an empathetic dialogue with the person. Not shaming, not trying to tell them that they ‘don’t understand a fact’ (your post).
/r/MGTOW222/12/20 11:10 PM
1

Clearly not. The point of MGTOW is to have an understanding of human nature, both male and female. What you’re witnessing and having a reaction to is the younger guys who get their first glimpse of the truth of the ugly side of female behavior and have a (sometimes) understandably hostile reaction to it. Imagine no one ever told you about the acts of violence a man is capable of. And then all of a sudden you become informed about male domestic abuse. You’d probably say some rather hostile things…
/r/MGTOW222/12/20 11:06 PM
1

lol man, I highly recommend you actually read some stuff on the subject
/r/MGTOW222/12/20 10:59 PM
1

Haha I don’t think you’re going to accomplish what you think you are... this sub will literally be the very first to say that you are 100% correct, and that is why we are MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW222/12/20 10:56 PM
3

Hahaha
/r/MGTOW222/12/20 06:06 PM
6

Haha well it’s actually flirtatious and playful. It’s not accusatory in the slightest, as I would never be upset with what any person decides to do with their own body. I just would want to know as a prerequisite to dating me, just as the woman wants to know my sexual past too. I’ve found that women like to be asked how slutty they are when you’re in a long, deep, flirtatious conversation together. My guess would be that most guys are in such a scarcity mindset (or in true scarcity) that they ge…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 05:32 PM
6

Unfortunately I can’t talk about it due to anonymity.. wish it wasn’t this way, but it’s a dangerous world out there.
/r/MGTOW222/12/20 05:25 PM
6

Haha it sounds strange out of context on its own. But think about it in the context of a full conversation, one where it is clear to her that you might be interested in her for more than just a fuck. I naturally go deep in conversation, and if I’m at a point where I’m even considering a date with a woman and not just fucking her then she’ll already be comfortable and intrigued. This is anecdotal, but the few girls who have ever even made it far enough to be my girlfriend had extremely low n-coun…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 05:23 PM
2

I ask rather candidly within the first few dates
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 05:10 PM
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No need to apologize my man, that’s what we’re here for. Great question. Can you give us a list of things that interest you the most? As in, what kind of things do you do that stop time when you engage in them? When I work on my own skill set, I can do it for hours upon hours, forget to eat, forget to sleep, be completely fascinated and engaged. It’s hard to feel lonely when my time is so beautifully occupied like this. It gets crazier when I’m able to go months on end without any interruption. …
/r/MGTOW222/12/20 09:37 AM
4

What do you think the future holds for simulated/video game girlfriends? Hope you’re doin play man.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/20 01:46 AM
2

STD risk increases dramatically. High n-count is just dangerous no matter what you’re looking for.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 11:41 PM
2

None of the above... just acquired a decent understanding of human nature that allowed me to do a cost/benefit analysis on relationships. No hostility no dismay no anger. Sorry for anyone that had to go through any of these; there are many paths to the red pill.
/r/MGTOW221/12/20 07:14 PM
0

I value attention from women when it’s from an interesting and meaningful interaction, usually not distinct from the same type of male attention I value. As far as female-specific attention, like sexuality, I value it very little; the market is very saturated.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/12/20 09:42 AM
2

Honestly it might even be better this way, a true lesson in going your own way; a lot of these types of people can act psychopathic when exposed to rational discourse: they listen to you but use that information to further their own cause at all times. They can use it to get better at hurting you. It has nothing to do with truth, and more so to do with their quest for power that is usually behest to their compulsions. Be careful out there.
/r/MGTOW221/12/20 09:13 AM
4

Blackpill
/r/MGTOW21/12/20 03:15 AM
1

Starting to sound like just a mirror to the outside world. Not much you can do to alter base human nature right
/r/MGTOW20/12/20 10:30 PM
3

This needed to be said...not to mention this is the culture where’s it’s the most acceptable to stay single and not have to work your health into oblivion to support others= the possibility for a much higher standard of life for men.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/12/20 02:07 PM
23

Fuck war...
/r/MGTOW220/12/20 03:21 AM
12

Proud of you dude. Excellent work
/r/MGTOW20/12/20 12:59 AM
1

Whoa. Do you witness a lot of actual intimacy then? Or is it much more animalistic? Hope you don’t mind the onslaught of questions, I’m not sure I’ve ever heard about this topic through a red pill lens.
/r/MGTOW19/12/20 09:02 PM
2

Yeah really interesting, thanks for answering. Do they fuck a lot simply because there’s not a lot of ways to get dopamine hits?
/r/MGTOW19/12/20 07:20 AM
4

Really interesting post. I’d be curious to hear your perspective on the love-lives of some of the non-criminally responsive. Respect man, you’re doing it right.
/r/MGTOW19/12/20 05:04 AM
1

Great post, couldn’t agree more.
/r/MGTOW19/12/20 12:36 AM
13

Thank god that woman was low IQ. K could have gotten much deeper had she been more cunning...
/r/MGTOW19/12/20 12:35 AM
6

They’re a really modern phenomenon too, kind of strange when you think about it. Travel universally had a purpose other than leisure for basically all of human history
/r/MGTOW18/12/20 10:25 PM
3

Bingo
/r/MGTOW18/12/20 10:24 PM
2

This
/r/MGTOW218/12/20 09:59 PM
14

Great work man. I’m sorry you didn’t have much help, but am also proud that you are stronger because of it. Keep pushing, appreciate the wisdom in this post
/r/MGTOW218/12/20 09:58 PM
34

Completely agree, very liberating
/r/MGTOW18/12/20 09:44 PM
11

-shiver-
/r/MGTOW18/12/20 09:42 PM
8

Yes
/r/MGTOW18/12/20 09:11 AM
1

Great use of time
/r/MGTOW18/12/20 02:56 AM
2

I’m gonna follow your lead. Ha in another post here it was asked what are your plans for Christmas as MGTOW? I answered that I’d be working on my skills in peace, like I do every day; every day is Christmas for me. I hope more men can find this mentality. Again, thanks for the post.
/r/MGTOW217/12/20 12:56 AM
12

Great post, couldn’t agree more, was a pleasure to read! I’m happy for you man, mad respect, keep pushing!
/r/MGTOW216/12/20 07:38 PM
9

Fucking real misogynists gonna ruin it for the vast vast majority of us who are entirely indifferent to women, and are just exercising our right to association... Tho to be fair, even without them I’m sure we’d still be cast as a hate group... Unfortunately we’re probably about to enter a time where it’s too dangerous to even be on the internet talking about these things.. Already anonymity is a requirement. Yesterday I talked with a young man who unironically said that ‘taking someone’s picture…
/r/MGTOW216/12/20 03:55 AM
1

Working on my skill set in peace, just like every night. Love life, every night is Christmas Eve. You?
/r/MGTOW216/12/20 03:22 AM
7

I’d encourage you to go have an honest discussion with an Incel subreddit (assuming you’re actually interested in a good faith conversation). I thought something similar until I started talking with them. It’s not what you think.
/r/MGTOW215/12/20 11:35 PM
1

Yeah I really feel for the incels and FAs.. wish they could experience a relationship, sex, etc, and get it over with. It’s probably the only way there’s a chance a few of them could arrive at MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW15/12/20 10:24 PM
1

AWAW
/r/MGTOW213/12/20 09:36 PM
17

Spent the entire day pushing my skill set, in peace and quiet. Pure focus
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 12:11 AM
2

Flip the genders. Every woman I’ve ever known except for 1 would slam things, break things, hit things etc... Also... absolutely terrifying that first comment “if he hits things he wants to do it to you”.. holy shit.. no... if I hit a wall when I’m mad that absolutely does not equate to wanting to hit a person... It’s way too easy to be accused of abuse... be safe out there guys. Be peaceful. Violence begets violence, and is always the absolute last resort. If it’s not the last resort it’s pathe…
/r/MGTOW13/12/20 12:08 AM
6

Nice, that’s gonna help a ton. Best of luck
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 07:11 AM
13

I think you’ll find that most men here are very liberal, in the true sense of the word. ‘Live and let live’ type of thinking. We generally do not care what others do with themselves. You’ll also find that most men here are against leftism, because it generally is an ideological view of the world, is an inaccurate portrayal of truth, and often has a viewpoint of coercion and control against individuals, which is antithetical to a philosophy of going one’s own way.
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 07:04 AM
2

Perhaps not, but it can still make a man receive far more positive results in other areas of life (I think specifically to facial surgeries).
/r/MGTOW211/12/20 06:57 AM
2

I see both as likely simultaneously. Look at South Korea and the commonplace practice of cosmetic surgery. I think as this gets cheaper and less taboo, we’ll see this all over the world. Side note, I’m actually starting to become a proponent of this; I think the numbers bear out that the number one form of actual discrimination is against looks, and for a few grand you can enhance people’s perception of your attractiveness, intelligence, kindness, integrity, and much more? I beginning to think t…
/r/MGTOW211/12/20 06:53 AM
11

GYOW
/r/MGTOW11/12/20 06:48 AM
2

Does the industry the corporation is in interest you? If it does, go conquer
/r/MGTOW09/12/20 08:24 AM
2

This
/r/MGTOW08/12/20 08:37 PM
4

We are so devoid of sensible advice for young men in our society that even a tradcon like him sounds prophetic. Still, I have gotten a lot of great wisdom from him, especially from his practice of clinical psychology. Would recommend, nonetheless, as he will touch on many topics that we have been prohibited from in the mainstream. Then again, I highly recommend studying as many worldviews as possible, not necessarily to imitate, but for the search of knowledge itself.
/r/MGTOW08/12/20 08:37 PM
3

Answer: MGTOW
/r/MGTOW08/12/20 08:26 PM
1

Can tell that you’re a very admirable man. I’d recommend talking this through with your father. There’s no easy choice, but I bet that there is a way to do both of these things and your combined wisdom can find an answer. You’re going to get unstuck sooner than you think.
/r/MGTOW05/12/20 01:12 AM
16

really appreciated that guys temperament. A glimmer of my blue pill self from long ago wishes that the genders could have this type of rational discourse.
/r/MGTOW204/12/20 09:11 PM
3

All women are women. AWAW
/r/MGTOW02/12/20 03:48 AM
2

It’s interesting to me that there is so much conflation between ‘survival’ and ‘forced to.’ As in, are we ‘forced’ to feed ourselves? Doesn’t seem to me like that is the proper way to explain the situation. Is our biology oppressing us? If I were to be charitable, I’d say she is trying to speak to how it’s terrible that many women who are impoverished are out in a situation where their best method for procuring resources is through prostitution. And I have sympathy for that. And I also have symp…
/r/MGTOW02/12/20 03:41 AM
4

“If the solution has never been to look at yourself, how is it that you expect to find it anywhere else?” -Immortal Technique
/r/MGTOW01/12/20 04:03 AM
1

These have all helped me live an extremely peaceful, purposeful, and stress-free life for a long time now. 10/10 would recommend
/r/PurplePillDebate29/11/20 03:38 AM
8

Excellent work man
/r/MGTOW229/11/20 12:36 AM
6

lol did you downvote for answering his question?
/r/MGTOW26/11/20 01:30 AM
10

Yes
/r/MGTOW26/11/20 01:01 AM
5

Grey-man lifestyle 100%
/r/MGTOW221/11/20 11:47 AM
2

Can I ask what AI is it?
/r/MGTOW220/11/20 08:58 AM
72

Weird to lump in harassment and bullying with masculinity. Those two things are incredibly weak and idiotic. If masculinity is anything, it certainly doesn’t include weakness or stupidity, harassment or bullying. “The word ‘red’ describes the color ‘blue’. Now I’m going to redefine the word ‘red’ to mean ‘green.’ “ Okay go for it?
/r/MGTOW220/11/20 08:57 AM
2

Thanks for this, totally agree, I couldn’t care less about that man’s individual motivations, but I’d never shit on a guy for his choices.
/r/MGTOW20/11/20 12:03 AM
3

Completely agree, be careful out there. To give an example, one of my first posts here was about why I left my last girlfriend. It was a great relationship, I just had to go my own way. I detailed out my thought process in the post, and a woman starts commenting. Within a couple comments, she starts using the word ‘abuse.’ It’s absolutely terrifying that she can just start throwing that word around; my relationship was the furthest thing from abusive you could possibly imagine, we never even got…
/r/MGTOW219/11/20 08:54 PM
3

Thanks dude
/r/MGTOW219/11/20 08:23 AM
3

I appreciate you sharing your perspective, thank you. And hello from the USA, glad to have you here on this forum.
/r/MGTOW219/11/20 07:55 AM
5

Completely agree, my exes almost never behaved poorly around me, because they knew that if they did it would be game over. I hold myself to a standard, and expect those around me to do the same. Not coincidentally, they are, as I said, exes.
/r/MGTOW19/11/20 03:53 AM
2

This
/r/MGTOW19/11/20 01:27 AM
-2

You’re not, you’re telling me your opinion. Regardless thanks for the support, dress ain’t for me but I’d never shame a dude for what he wants to wear.
/r/MGTOW19/11/20 01:24 AM
1

Turn that ship around before it too late, Go somewhere!
/r/MGTOW19/11/20 01:23 AM
3

Haha please next time don’t waste precious minutes of your life for the sake of politeness.
/r/MGTOW18/11/20 12:13 PM
1

Great perspective
/r/MGTOW18/11/20 12:09 PM
-1

Shaming a guy’s mental health just cuz you don’t like how he looks? That’s women’s behavior. What are you a bitch?
/r/MGTOW18/11/20 12:07 PM
4

You lost me at ‘Men should dress like men.’ Specifically the word ‘should.’ Men should do whatever the fuck they want and not adhere to what your minuscule personal opinions on what pieces of cloth make an outfit masculine or feminine. You’re on a MGTOW sub; men will dress however the fuck they want, there’s no should in the equation. Going your own way also includes making your own decisions on clothing. Any dudes who want to rock a dress, fucking go for it, don’t let old school thinking stop y…
/r/MGTOW18/11/20 12:01 PM
5

Maybe. I can’t say for certain what his individual motivations are, but I think if we were to take an educated guess then you’d probably be right. That being said tho, I still think that whatever a man wants to wear, he should be able to rock it without being shamed for his ‘masculinity’. I know a few guys that actually wear hats similar to the pic from 1929, and they get their masculinity called out... by other guys. I think that’s bitch behavior. One of the extremely negative sides of women’s …
/r/MGTOW18/11/20 07:57 AM
7

Unpopular Opinion: he actually looks dope. I can’t speak to the powers that be that might have put him in that dress, but he himself is rockin it. Men should wear whatever they want, and absolutely fuckin rock it, whether that’s a suit or a dress.
/r/MGTOW18/11/20 03:52 AM
1

Half chill so true
/r/MGTOW17/11/20 06:58 PM
2

Let me know if anyone figures out a way to get free classes out of this
/r/MGTOW17/11/20 06:48 AM
1

Unpopular opinion: that’s just shaming these men. And it’s going to turn them off of anything positively masculine even more. Let them be, or try to understand their position in the least. A man has value.
/r/MGTOW17/11/20 06:42 AM
2

Good point. I’ve never spent money on awards but I was given a free silver one, that’s all I was referencing
/r/MGTOW15/11/20 09:53 PM
2

I wish I could give awards in this sub. Spot on, excellent reply
/r/MGTOW15/11/20 03:42 AM
3

I hope you are right. It’s always a minority that makes the greatest advancements in human morality, and oftentimes in some of the darkest of circumstances.
/r/MGTOW15/11/20 01:29 AM
3

Agree, my worry though is that this is just intrinsic to human nature, we’re just seeing it manifested though instant communication technology. In olden times we might have been kicked out of the tribe and died of malnutrition in a harsh winter instead
/r/MGTOW15/11/20 01:14 AM
3

Yeah it’s just a ton of work for little ROI... every great relationship I’ve ever had with a girl, platonic or romantic, has come from me trying very little. Just doing my own thing had always resulted in way better outcomes than chasing.
/r/MGTOW215/11/20 01:13 AM
1

Haha preemptive banning, can’t believe I’m Surprised
/r/MGTOW15/11/20 01:11 AM
9

Agree with it all but then feel exhausted by the hoops to jump through just to... Okay I’m going to get back to living a fucking awesome life now instead of fuckin around with all that.
/r/MGTOW214/11/20 08:41 PM
2

haha I thought I was looking at my own post for a sec, I did the exact same thing, exact same outcome. Did you also post a rational, cool, conversational response?
/r/MGTOW14/11/20 08:35 PM
2

I support their message. Just not financially
/r/MGTOW14/11/20 08:30 PM
4

Hahaha
/r/MGTOW14/11/20 07:43 PM
1

Thank you for clearing that up for me, really thinking deep on this one
/r/MGTOW214/11/20 09:42 AM
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To any teenage men on here: Don’t worry, we are not here to radicalize or recruit you, at all. Every single man here is more than happy for you to go get into a relationship, a marriage, whatever, with a woman. And if anything goes wrong in that relationship, we are here to help, to give you objective answers, to help you think things through. We’re here to support you, and to help you live your best life. We have nothing against relationships, we are merely exercising our right to freely associ…
/r/MGTOW14/11/20 01:11 AM
3

This
/r/MGTOW12/11/20 09:32 PM
5

It’s definitely true, I’m sure there are a variety of personality traits that, when mixed with the right environmental stimuli, culminate in this type of behavior. You could probably generalize a cluster of personality types of MGTOW-minded men and show a gradient falloff of the behaviors until you get to a point that you’d describe as bluepill. My hunch is that some prerequisites are high trait contentiousness, trait openness, a bit of dark triad, and at least average intelligence. Would be cur…
/r/MGTOW12/11/20 09:30 PM
1

AWAW
/r/MGTOW211/11/20 10:13 PM
3

😍😍😍
/r/MGTOW10/11/20 11:25 PM
3

That’s a funny one. It’s always baffles me when people think the debate is on whether or not all women are ‘bad.’ Obviously there’s plenty of great women. But they are still women. MGTOW encourages understanding of female nature. AWAW: all women are women. And the MGTOW argument is, regardless of how great she is, because she will still behave as a female Homo sapiens, is it worth it to sacrifice my autonomy for a relationship/marriage/etc? Honestly, the more I go down this path, the more I’m re…
/r/MGTOW10/11/20 11:19 PM
10

It’s already written into Biden’s stated ‘policy’, the things they will go after next. It’s already been posted here, but Biden’s Online Harassment Task Force to Protect Women. We’re going to see censorship like never before. The goalpost keep on movin.
/r/MGTOW08/11/20 08:08 AM
4

Based. I do not disagree.
/r/MGTOW08/11/20 08:05 AM
1

The post replies in r/PoliticalCompassMemes did not disappoint
/r/MGTOW08/11/20 05:00 AM
3

Thanks for sharing, this is one of the OGs I actually have not heard yet
/r/MGTOW08/11/20 02:53 AM
9

Please tell this made it onto Political Compass Memes. Great meme, highlights a an important heuristic; AWAW. All women are women. Biology>Culture
/r/MGTOW08/11/20 01:22 AM
1

Thanks for sharing, it’s good to know someone else has a similar experience and still came to the same conclusions. Wishing you the best man
/r/MGTOW207/11/20 08:46 PM
3

Maybe it’s because most MGTOW are actually pretty high status guys, who have plenty of experience with women, and who also had the requisite intelligence to figure out that going your own way is a far greater experience. The guys who tend to be sour grapes tend to go more towards incel or red/black pill, as far as I can tell.
/r/MGTOW07/11/20 09:33 AM
2

Yes absolutrly
/r/MGTOW07/11/20 12:08 AM
10

Have you ever noticed that when you’re working on something monotonous over an extended period of time, the unwanted singularness of the pursuit seems to drown out everything else in your life?
/r/MGTOW206/11/20 08:26 AM
1

Name checks out. Just wanted to engage in discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/20 05:51 AM
1

Agree
/r/MGTOW205/11/20 05:52 PM
5

Wrong, MGTOW is for any man who wants to experience true autonomy.
/r/MGTOW205/11/20 09:49 AM
2

Here’s my experience, hope this helps: https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2/comments/gytoq4/a_perspective_ive_never_heard_from_any_other_mgtow/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/MGTOW205/11/20 09:47 AM
6

100% good on you man
/r/MGTOW205/11/20 09:37 AM
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This. Remember that women use language covertly; ‘express your emotions’ taken at face value, is certainly a good thing. When you have been wronged, anger is a natural and useful emotion. When you have spent the day with a close friend chatting about philosophy on the beach and you express joy with them, that is a great thing. When a parent passes and you express sorrow, that has meaning. But usually when we hear this phrase, it does not mean ‘have a healthy expression of neural chemical reactio…
/r/MGTOW205/11/20 09:08 AM
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Great attitude towards the situation. I know it’s not easy, but this is the best way to have the possibility of a positive outcome for your relationship with him.
/r/MGTOW205/11/20 08:56 AM
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I think that notion comes from the perception that many MGTOW have a ‘sour grapes’ attitude towards women. I don’t really get that impression from most MGTOW, but that’s the commentary I see from anyone outside our circle. But you’re probably right, I’m sure most MGTOW found out about the philosophy because they’ve had plenty of relations with women. I always thought that if people knew who we really were, they’d be shocked that we aren’t a bunch of sour-grapes neckbeards, but instead rational, …
/r/MGTOW05/11/20 07:26 AM
1

Go swimming haha that’s great
/r/MGTOW05/11/20 07:19 AM
1

Horror story
/r/MGTOW05/11/20 07:12 AM
1

Haha holy shit
/r/MGTOW05/11/20 07:03 AM
4

Haha life without a woman is dull and boring? What about hundreds of women instead? What about fascinating fields of study, intellectual pursuits, physical goals, learning, reading, building? What about purpose? Autonomy? Anti-fragility? Ethics? What about reveling at the wonder of nature on a hike in the wilderness with close friends, or reading a book on your porch at sunset, or enjoying your favorite meal on the pier in Santa Monica in utter solitude? What about painting, boxing, and writing?…
/r/MGTOW04/11/20 07:16 AM
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I really enjoy my work, it fills me with purpose. But I get where you’re coming from, I think I’d modify it a bit to say ‘why work a meaningless 9-5 just to afford a few more luxuries and pay more in taxes?’ Then I’d agree.
/r/MGTOW04/11/20 12:25 AM
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Of course. It’s your way, it’s your life. Live it brilliantly. Best of luck man
/r/MGTOW203/11/20 07:39 PM
3

Very interesting take, thanks for sharing
/r/MGTOW03/11/20 07:34 PM
2

Contribute to the discussion, you’re welcome to join.
/r/MGTOW203/11/20 08:31 AM
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Hope you’re doin well man. Check out my first post, I think it could be what you’re looking for. Hope it helps. https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2/comments/gytoq4/a_perspective_ive_never_heard_from_any_other_mgtow/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
/r/MGTOW203/11/20 06:28 AM
1

Humans are humans.
/r/MGTOW03/11/20 03:30 AM
5

Smart man.
/r/MGTOW03/11/20 03:27 AM
1

Tell him the truth, always.
/r/MGTOW03/11/20 12:06 AM
2

Sorry I don’t have time for a longer answer, but you are in the right place, and great that you are looking for solutions. I highly recommend taking up a martial art, it will do wonders for this affliction; speaking from personal al experience. Best of luck man
/r/MGTOW202/11/20 10:43 PM
1

Does anyone know the deal with Aaron Clarey and CSMGTOW and Barbarossa?
/r/MGTOW02/11/20 05:41 PM
2

Damn.. a year deadline. I feel bad for the dude, it’s clear he has no principals.
/r/MGTOW02/11/20 06:48 AM
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Man, great writing, you clearly have a talent, and it sounds like you are doing very well with what you have. Keep striving. I’m sorry to hear of the suicide in your family, and for your emptiness with respect to the lack of a father in your life. Truly that makes your disposition and attitude even more admirable. You should be proud of yourself, especially in respect to wanting to learn new languages, learning about business, and sticking with your schooling. Mad respect. So I think these are s…
/r/MGTOW02/11/20 06:39 AM
1

My guess is they are getting the ‘high’ they speak of because they’re exercising discipline and accomplishing something. I’ve never done research tho
/r/MGTOW02/11/20 06:02 AM
5

That was tough to read
/r/MGTOW02/11/20 05:56 AM
3

Fairly certain all can do it on command as well. Social control is an evolved adaptive behavior
/r/MGTOW02/11/20 12:22 AM
3

Their life, their choice. Hope they live their best lives
/r/MGTOW202/11/20 12:18 AM
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Any specific critique for us, or just self serving self serving ad-hominems? Hope she sees this man, best of luck.
/r/MGTOW01/11/20 11:47 PM
1

Time. You’re asking the other questions and following your instincts. Just keep working on becoming a better, stronger, more moral man, and your purpose will ‘reveal’ itself, so to speak. Don’t be impatient, trust the process. You’re already off to a good start.
/r/MGTOW01/11/20 11:23 PM
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Nostradamus
/r/MGTOW01/11/20 10:36 PM
2

Happy to help, I only ask that you pay it forward and give help and advice to men on this sub too; bonus points if they’re men in your real life. Great questions, will do my best to give a bit more detail: -High crypto because you’re young and can take risks; so betting on an alternative monetary system, yes is risky, but has the potential for absurdly high gains, as well as helping you build autonomy outside of the centralized fiat system that currently dominates. USD will exist for a very very…
/r/MGTOW01/11/20 09:26 PM
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I’m still in my 20s, but I like this idea a lot. I never really had any great men in my life who truly took special interest in my career. I have an awesome dad and granddad, don’t get me wrong, I am full of gratitude, but I am talking more along the lines of a mentor who is a few decades ahead of you in a similar career/life trajectory as your own. But my point is, even in my late 20s, when I see a younger man who is putting in the work on themselves, I always try to go out of my way to give en…
/r/MGTOW01/11/20 09:07 PM
2

Keep paying it forward!
/r/MGTOW201/11/20 06:51 PM
10

No thanks. Best advice: slam that cabinet once, you’ll never hear from me again.
/r/MGTOW01/11/20 06:05 PM
15

-Become wealthy but never look wealthy Excellent post; enjoy the grey-man lifestyle. It’s an awesome time to be alive, as long as you live it intelligently
/r/MGTOW01/11/20 06:03 PM
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Absolutely
/r/MGTOW01/11/20 06:44 AM
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Great post, glad to hear it man. Keep killin it
/r/MGTOW201/11/20 06:30 AM
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Excellent work man, you’re at a great point. I like the idea of giving ‘stats’ like you did, I think that’s a great way to get a snapshot of where you’re at and how that can be used to achieve the next level. I think you’ve come to the right forum, I recommend reading through all the comments you’ll get. Alright, so you mentioned not being far enough, and used an example of coworkers talking about diversity of their assets. You can do this too, rather quickly, and I’d recommend it; since you’re …
/r/MGTOW01/11/20 06:26 AM
5

Yes. Great analysis
/r/MGTOW01/11/20 03:26 AM
2

Great post, thanks for taking the time
/r/MGTOW31/10/20 07:00 PM
2

AWAW
/r/MGTOW30/10/20 11:11 PM
2

Wellp ... guess I’ll keep goin my own way. Hope you learned your lesson man, sorry you had go through that hell. You need to do a lot of work, enjoy the journey.
/r/MGTOW230/10/20 11:06 PM
1

Good addendum, agreed
/r/MGTOW30/10/20 04:49 AM
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This is not particularly scientific, but I’d encourage you to treat this as the start of a hypothesis, and use it as a springboard to do research into evolutionary biology and behavioral psychology. Still, sentient dinosaurs sounds dope as hell.
/r/MGTOW30/10/20 02:36 AM
4

I’d recommend some books on basic math as well
/r/MGTOW29/10/20 01:12 AM
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lol. Please read some evolutionary biology and then get back to me. Men and women do not want the same things, generally speaking. They have 2 different evolutionarily adapted strategies for survival.
/r/MGTOW29/10/20 01:06 AM
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You wrote “‘what do all women want’ is a meaningless question.” It is not. It’s a question worth considering, especially when talking about behavior, biology, and psychology. It’s also worth considering the question if you’re a man who wants to get an accurate understanding of the opposite sex, as it sounds like OP is. It’s important to be informed when thinking how a man must make decisions about his life. When considering any group, first you must consider the universals. Then you can move ont…
/r/MGTOW29/10/20 01:02 AM
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No, it’s just an extremely general question. For example, all women want water, food and shelter. See? General questions are not meaningless
/r/MGTOW29/10/20 12:54 AM
9

Agree and recommend
/r/MGTOW228/10/20 05:55 PM
9

Hahaha great question. I might come up with a solution to this.
/r/MGTOW28/10/20 08:09 AM
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Glad to help. I highly recommend watching the YouTube collection of Colltaine. It’s all statistics and facts. I also recommend YouTube channels by Barbarossa, Stardusk, Quasimandias and CSMGTOW. Other than that, look into evolutionary biology and primatology, to get a good baseline understanding of evolved human behavior. Studies of primates I’ve found are a bit less biased, and will talk about innate gender differences, especially when it comes to mating strategies, a bit more openly and bluntl…
/r/MGTOW228/10/20 07:37 AM
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Whoa haven’t heard this one in a while. Alright I’m sure you are new to MGTOW. I would highly encourage you to read a bit deeper- past the political stuff, past the anger at the culture of western women, past the surface level of information that you find in places like this. Look to the biological. All women are women. They have innate biological tendencies, neither good nor bad, that are natural and innate. These tendencies can be expressed differently, in different settings, such as different…
/r/MGTOW228/10/20 07:27 AM
4

Interesting predictions
/r/MGTOW28/10/20 07:14 AM
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I am in favor of this
/r/MGTOW28/10/20 05:28 AM
2

They are, but also exciting times. Stay strong, at least it’s a fascinating time to behold
/r/MGTOW28/10/20 05:24 AM
4

Dedicate yourself entirely— to both. Fucking go for it dude, life is too short, GET IT.
/r/MGTOW28/10/20 01:27 AM
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Really sorry dude. Read the comments here, you’ll get solid advice. Wish I had some for you but I’ve never been in a situation like that, best I can say is keep fighting like hell.
/r/MGTOW28/10/20 12:29 AM
2

Haha I appreciate the challenge, because it forces me to look objectively in the mirror, I’m not going to lie to anons on the internet. It’s not the case with me. However, you are right about wanting the recognition, and this is not a great behavior on my end. Wanting that validation, it’s also part of the reason I strive so hard. Thanks for the gut check.
/r/MGTOW27/10/20 09:48 PM
5

Thanks for sharing the article with us all
/r/MGTOW27/10/20 05:13 PM
2

This
/r/MGTOW27/10/20 05:06 PM
2

Sex ‘positive’ household, 14 y/o wants to be a pornstar... shocker. I am not saying there’s any I’ll-intent from the family, it’s just that familial/cultural/societal decisions based on how you feel in the moment is always a disaster and often dangerous. OP didn’t know this, but she summed up western society with this post.
/r/MGTOW27/10/20 05:04 PM
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Muslim men pay 100% all expenses for every woman in their life, and are responsible for taking care of all aspects of a woman’s life if married. This is explicit in the Quran. And the woman’s money is still her own. It’s still women controlling the social order, it’s just a few decades behind the west. Doesn’t sound very based to me.
/r/MGTOW27/10/20 04:49 PM
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Makes sense. They have constant dread about losing reproductive rights, because that is where their power lies, especially of the political nature. It’s the first thing they go to when they think of losing political power- the right to terminate their child. This existential dread subconsciously drives the behavior you’re seeing online.
/r/MGTOW27/10/20 12:00 AM
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Excellent work man, you’re an inspiration. Keep going, you’ve only just started, imagine where this is gonna lead you
/r/MGTOW226/10/20 10:19 PM
1

You are absolutely right. Fortunately I’m in a well-paying industry and fit into a variety of niches in there. I have turned down larger corporate jobs to keep freelancing actually. And all-throughout my building of my current company, I freelancer on the side as well, so I’m in no need of new leads, fortunately. And as I watch my company slowly corporatize, I crave the freelance lifestyle again haha. But you are right, it is it’s own set of problems.
/r/MGTOW26/10/20 08:58 PM
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Couldn’t agree more, glad to hear you have this feeling as well! Keep pushing
/r/MGTOW26/10/20 08:56 PM
1

Good that you did that math and realized though, better to know than not. We’re here for the red-pill, after all. I think I actually do need to hear that.. I think I’m headed that way soon. Thanks again for sharing your perspective
/r/MGTOW26/10/20 07:11 PM
1

Best of luck to you too!
/r/MGTOW26/10/20 07:10 PM
2

Man I can’t help but get a bit depressed by this, it’s like red-pilling all over again from all the great wisdom and advice I’ve gotten from this sub. I cant imagine living a life where I’m not going that extra mile; so the only way to truly do that and reap the returns, it to—— you guessed it, Go My Own Way. Who would have thought.
/r/MGTOW26/10/20 07:08 PM
2

Damn thanks so much for sharing your perspective. That’s a black pill of truth right there, you rarely get out what you put in. That continues to lead me down the path of most advice I’ve gotten from this post (thanks to everyone for sharing), which is to become completely independent. I’m am working on my exit strategy as we speak. I will continue to try to be burnt in.
/r/MGTOW26/10/20 07:06 PM
4

Excellent work, well deserved man. Love these posts
/r/MGTOW226/10/20 06:31 PM
1

Excellent work! Definitely worth celebrating
/r/MGTOW26/10/20 06:23 PM
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Absolutely 100% agree with this. I don’t mind the red-pill rage posts, and am happy to help them. There is no where else in society to vent, and it seems rather backwards to deny that here. Just my opinion. How else are they going to overcome it, like most of us here have done?
/r/MGTOW226/10/20 07:38 AM
1

Damn I’m sorry to hear that, that is no small number. Yeah, and I am one of those jockeys.. I wish I wasn’t, I don’t particularly want to play any games, but here we are, you get sucked in. So you sold that company? Any advice for dealing with the politics and jockeying?
/r/MGTOW26/10/20 07:36 AM
1

Yep. And I’ve been very successful in the venture, have gained many skills, and see the work as purposeful and full of potential. Makes this very difficult.
/r/MGTOW26/10/20 07:34 AM
2

Thanks for the advice. Specifically needing a request from superiors- that I am going to take to heart and implement immediately. I have done so much to go out of my way to bring in projects and work that was never requested- and I get how that can be very annoying to people who just want to do a 9-5 and go home to their families. At the same time, they joined a startup and I thought they’d be way more supportive of this. Regardless, I think I am in a similar position to where you once were, so …
/r/MGTOW26/10/20 06:54 AM
2

That’s what baffles me, we are still technically a startup, so almost everyone has just as much to gain as me (we all have equity stake). You’d think that would put everyone on the same page; not necessarily everyone has the same work output, but everyone would be very motivated and happy that I’m doin so much extra work. Now that being said, I also have sympathy for their position; I am not the most essential person, and I make mistakes because I move so fast. Not everyone has the same bandwidt…
/r/MGTOW26/10/20 06:49 AM
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If you give someone a ban, please explicitly state why and give them the resources to move past their redpill rage. Invite them back here. Tell them that they can vent on MGTOW1, and that we’re here for them after. There are a lot of young men just discovering this stuff, and I wouldn’t want anyone to be turned away from this content by a ban, seeing as everywhere else on Reddit people are being censored without reason. We should be here to help.
/r/MGTOW226/10/20 06:23 AM
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One day in the future society will have an awakening and many many men in important and influential positions will come out as MGTOW and everyone will be surprised we aren’t just a bunch of virgins. I’m kidding about the first part.
/r/MGTOW226/10/20 02:54 AM
4

Damn incredible post. Thank you for sharing, looking forward to your next
/r/MGTOW26/10/20 02:39 AM
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If Biden wins they will simply re-target. The behavior will not go away, it will only get worse. It has little to do with politics: go read about Calhoun’s Mice.
/r/MGTOW26/10/20 02:34 AM
1

Agreed, I’m in favor of it. Use what assets you have to make a living, doesn’t matter to me.
/r/MGTOW26/10/20 02:27 AM
3

Keep pushing hard man. I wish you the best
/r/MGTOW26/10/20 02:25 AM
2

Thanks for that gem, I like that a lot. There’s rarely such a thing as wasted time. Take care man, keep killing it in your field
/r/MGTOW26/10/20 02:24 AM
1

It’s a hard thought process, and a difficult journey. Hopefully we’ll both be stronger for it. Best of luck man, keep pushing hard to make this a great life
/r/MGTOW26/10/20 02:23 AM
1

Hahaha Spot on
/r/MGTOW26/10/20 02:08 AM
3

Stay strong dude. Take from the system while building enough autonomy to exist outside the system. Go your own way, and it gets better.
/r/MGTOW26/10/20 01:58 AM
7

Men are incentivized by lowered tax rates to marry. Enough said
/r/MGTOW26/10/20 01:50 AM
1

Yes I see the same patterns, right before my eyes, and it’s incredibly destructive. Sad really. I am watching my startup slowly corporatize, and with that comes the exact same behaviors- I really shouldn’t be surprised. I’ve gotten great advice from this post, and am on my way to following it. Thanks for the perspective.
/r/MGTOW25/10/20 09:39 PM
2

Thanks, that is amazing to hear. Sounds like you’d be in with a better crowd in that field. Any chance you are applying macro behavioral study to finance?
/r/MGTOW25/10/20 09:37 PM
1

Hell yeah, thanks for the advice. On it
/r/MGTOW25/10/20 09:33 PM
2

Thanks for posting this, really appreciate the encouragement, and I will definitely take your advice and keep striving
/r/MGTOW25/10/20 09:33 PM
3

Man thanks for this comment, extremely inspiring. Fucking keep hitting it hard, it will pay off. I do the same, and I think it’s time to scale back at my company even more, despite being a founder.
/r/MGTOW25/10/20 09:32 PM
3

Man, my heart breaks reading that story; I relate. I’m sure that was difficult to go through and eye-opening at the time. I will absolutely take your advice, because the sad fact is that I am outperforming people my senior in a variety of ways. The miscommunication and the disinformation campaigns are very real, and there’s nothing I can do about it. It forced me into a bad situation where I made it even worse myself, and now I am the bad guy. I was even reprimanded for working weekends. It blow…
/r/MGTOW25/10/20 08:23 PM
1

Read my first post, it’s all there. It was a tough decision.
/r/MGTOW25/10/20 08:10 PM
1

I am on it. Thank you!
/r/MGTOW25/10/20 08:09 PM
2

Damn that is excellent to hear. How did you find such a place? Does it have to do with the industry you’re in? I’d love to get more about this, it is always something I’ve craved. I know quite a few high achievers that I have worked with, but never a full team that all strives in the same way, sadly.
/r/MGTOW25/10/20 08:09 PM
2

It definitely does help, thank you. I am making those moves as we speak.
/r/MGTOW25/10/20 08:07 PM
1

Yes, it’s been hard for me to see that perspective, but I have come around to sympathize with their resentment. I didn’t mean to make anyone look bad, but I see why it looks that way. I will take your advice, and am making the moves to do so as we speak. Thanks for the harsh truth, I needed to hear it.
/r/MGTOW25/10/20 08:06 PM
2

Autonomy is everything.
/r/MGTOW25/10/20 08:03 PM
1

Damn I needed to hear this, thanks very much for the comment. I am taking a week ‘off’ as of yesterday, and have already started on a project that gives me life. I will for sure take your advice, and never be dragged down by mediocrity.
/r/MGTOW25/10/20 08:03 PM
1

Make your Dad proud. Best of luck to you too, and thank you very much for the words of wisdom.
/r/MGTOW25/10/20 08:01 PM
3

Excellent to hear on your business pursuit, not only because you must have an incredible, competent relationship with your father, but also because that is a great attitude to have towards it. Best of luck in those pursuits, that’s a recipe to have a very meaningful work life. I am not familiar with the Jungian cognitive functions, sounds right up my alley; I only have some tip of the iceberg knowledge of Jung. I’m a INTJ myself (though I know Meyers Briggs is bogus), I take it with a grain of s…
/r/MGTOW25/10/20 07:23 AM
1

Thanks for the response, I appreciate you taking the time. I am one of the founders of the company; in a way way I work for someone, but it is also a project that means a lot to me. That’s why I am so torn. I have left plenty of companies and turned down excellent full-time offers, no problem, no regrets. Your first point still holds the though; these are the signs that I need to start developing an exit strategy, and move onto something that is entirely my own. I have no shortage of ideas or op…
/r/MGTOW25/10/20 07:13 AM
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Taking your advice this very moment, though it probably wouldn’t look like rest to most. Thanks for the consideration. Yes it is very hard for most people, who are already exhausted from their marriage, mortgages, 9-5 punch the clock lifestyle, to have to be bombarded with the constant energy from people like us. In a sense I sympathize. But I do not know the solution, other than to go my own way. I do t think the 2 styles are compatible in the long-run. What have you done in those situations wh…
/r/MGTOW25/10/20 07:01 AM
2

Awesome life. Keep pushing man, glad to hear, cheers
/r/MGTOW225/10/20 03:42 AM
3

Spot on. I’m always asked this when I ever-so-lightly approach even the smallest tip of a red-pill subject. I laughed hard at this one, thanks for sharing
/r/MGTOW25/10/20 12:07 AM
1

She is doing great work, but to really level up she should stop using electricity, plumbing, the internet, airplanes, agriculture, the monetary system, laws and governance, science, philosophy.... Don’t worry, you’ll get there
/r/MGTOW25/10/20 12:02 AM
2

You’re the kind of person who probably gives the right kind of validation to those you have a relationship with. I’d hazard a guess that you are surrounded by very quality people.
/r/MGTOW224/10/20 09:38 PM
2

The first point I think is one very often overlooked. Men get very early validation from their mother, and often this is not something that is for the child’s sake, but rather for the mother’s ego. This will usually last a lifetime, and set the child on a path to constantly seek the same validation patterns from women that don’t necessarily benefit the man directly, but benefit his derived sense of self that is dependent on the attention and validation from the opposite sex. Often, and predictab…
/r/MGTOW224/10/20 09:30 PM
34

I’m still looking for the right one
/r/MGTOW24/10/20 06:46 AM
7

Excellent point
/r/MGTOW24/10/20 02:45 AM
21

Excellent point. This is why I’m actually not very critical of the ever-advancing hysteria of the average feminist. It’s not malicious; when they write articles about ‘air conditioning sexism’, they are being sincere. We evolved to read threats into our environment, even if the threat is a false positive. Just because we live in the safest, most privileged society in all of history, does not mean that the threat response dissipates. Women will continuously read false positives, and act on them w…
/r/MGTOW24/10/20 02:45 AM
3

You are obviously very high in trait conscientiousness. Use this to your advantage, keep pushing forward, live a brilliant life. Great work
/r/MGTOW224/10/20 02:31 AM
4

Man thanks for typing all this up for all the men to see on here. Solid. Love this sub.
/r/MGTOW224/10/20 02:23 AM
20

I have gotten lots of wisdom from Rollo Tomassi and his gang. No disrespect. But I have noticed that they are super quick to shit on mgtow, while simultaneously admitting that we are correct. Always a lukewarm response. I believe that this is because they can’t sell anything to mgtow, so we’re automatically a slight threat. When pressed to go into mgtow in any depth, they strawman our arguments hard. But then again, there is no real incentive to truly understand the philosophy. For the longest t…
/r/MGTOW24/10/20 02:08 AM
2

Couldn’t agree more. It’s just tough because it not such an obvious line; I’m not an employee, I’m one of the founders. I have stake in the company. It’s hard to know when to cut ties. And yeah I mean I could retire for some time actually, but that’s not exactly what I’m looking to do either.
/r/MGTOW23/10/20 08:31 PM
1

Definitely, I am working that angle as well. If you have any recommendations I’d love to hear them. Thanks
/r/MGTOW23/10/20 08:28 PM
4

Yikes, yeah meritocracy is dead. It’s hard to know if playing that game is worth it, I always bat it back and forth. It’s like, one one hand, I want to congratulate you for that promotion. But on the other, I’d say dude that sucks, it would have been better if you got promoted on merit. It makes everything unnecessarily confusing and stressful. That being said tho, I am going to take your advice and chill out, not work so hard for them, while working on the side and planning my exit strategy. Th…
/r/MGTOW23/10/20 08:27 PM
3

Loss is a very hard one, especially when there are people that can be blamed for it. In modern society we are very removed from loss because of our lifespans and individualism, so it can be very shocking and hard to deal with. But you are doing everything right, you’re reaching out, you’re considering the people around you and what roles they play in your life. I recommend watching Quasimandias’ YouTube channel, he covers many topics on loss; his father was an undertaker, and so he has a very un…
/r/MGTOW223/10/20 06:27 PM
3

Thank you for the advice, I will certainly take it.
/r/MGTOW23/10/20 05:59 AM
3

Thank you. Heading to bed right now, and will smell the roses in the form of a kettlebell workout in the morning. Then I’m off to start planning my exit strategy. You sound like a man who had found success across multiple spheres.
/r/MGTOW23/10/20 05:58 AM
5

Thank you very much for taking the time to type this out. I will certainly take this advice, it is excellent. I have already had great, candid discussions with my grandfather and gotten that old-school red-pill perspective. And I have been actively working on my own business for some time now, and perhaps this is the catalyst I needed to make the jump. The biggest takeaway for me from your response is that success is measured in dollars, and that is certainly a fallacy that I am committing as we…
/r/MGTOW23/10/20 05:45 AM
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I needed to hear that. Thank you very much. Writing out my exit strategy now.
/r/MGTOW23/10/20 03:05 AM
3

Damn I needed to hear that. Thanks for taking the time to add this. Currently writing out my exit strategy right now.
/r/MGTOW23/10/20 03:05 AM
2

Thanks or sharing. The OGs have changed my life irreversibly for the better, specifically Colltaine, CSMGTOW, Barbarossa, Stardusk and Quasimandias. ManWomanMyth is one that I never got around to watching, but I will start with this compilation tonight.
/r/MGTOW23/10/20 02:50 AM
2

Welcome, and great work standing up for your principals. Continue solidifying them, and living this life to the fullest.
/r/MGTOW223/10/20 02:45 AM
3

I like this a lot, and it’s definitely one of the things I could pivot to. I am not thrilled with the prospect of being the sole stakeholder, as I like the thought of working with like minded people, as a passionate team. But this looks more and more like an idealistic fantasy by the day. The red pill was not hard for me to swallow. But for some reason this one is. Thank you very much for the input, and very glad to hear of your homestead, it sounds like an incredible life.
/r/MGTOW23/10/20 02:44 AM
4

Never had a problem cutting people out. Can definitely afford it. I’ve just invested so much energy to get this far, but something tells me I am stumbling into the sunken cost fallacy very quickly. Thanks for the assurance.
/r/MGTOW23/10/20 02:42 AM
14

Thanks man, really appreciate that. Yes I have been fantasizing about taking time ‘off’, although time off for me would be working on martial arts and studying behavioral psychology + macro economics. Even as I type that out I get excited by the thought. I think there’s a very real chance I take your advice by the end of the year. Thank you, and cheers, I’m a young MGTOW as well.
/r/MGTOW23/10/20 02:40 AM
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Definitely one of the routes that I could take. It’s just very hard to cut ties when I’ve invested this much time. But I think you’re spot on
/r/MGTOW23/10/20 02:39 AM
1

Haha yeah, I see that. It is technically a ‘job’, but I am one of the founders of the company, so it’s more than a job to me, it’s part of my purpose.
/r/MGTOW22/10/20 11:48 PM
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It’s true. I love putting in extra work, going above and beyond. I can’t imagine having a ‘job’. But I am not going to lie, I am getting tired of others getting upset by this, instead of being grateful. Being intimidated by it, instead of excited. Cutting me down instead of building me up. People have benefitted greatly for my performance and consistently going above and beyond, 7 days a week. But instead of being excited by the benefit, they cut me down and make me feel inferior. I can’t believ…
/r/MGTOW22/10/20 10:58 PM
16

Your sons admiration for you will reach new highs when he sees how you climb from the bottom. It will be an experience that guides him for the rest of his life. Stay strong.
/r/MGTOW22/10/20 08:10 PM
2

For the same reasons I’m in favor of prostitution
/r/MGTOW22/10/20 06:01 PM
2

Holy shit
/r/MGTOW22/10/20 07:43 AM
1

I have recently be having a craving for being involved with the masculine team all striving towards something important. I’ve been living and working remotely for 4 months now, almost no human contact other than zoom calls, and I stopped so low to needing some real masculinity in my life that I watched a fucking James Bond movie hahaha. But yeah I have never truly felt ‘the brotherhood’ in anything in life, and I crave that kind of experience. I don’t think that’s exactly OPs question, but I thi…
/r/MGTOW22/10/20 07:41 AM
1

I am in favor of this
/r/MGTOW22/10/20 07:36 AM
1

They’d understand
/r/MGTOW222/10/20 07:27 AM
1

hahahahahahahah
/r/MGTOW222/10/20 07:05 AM
7

I was recently talking to a former model now in her 50s (it was for business, just making small talk while waiting), and she whips out her phone, very very excited to show me how a filter was making her look young again. Her eyes sparkled while looking at the pics, not even caring about my reaction. She looked like a Barbie doll made from terrible 90s CGI made by a high schooler who just learned photoshop. She was mesmerized and just happy to show someone. I felt really bad for her, truly.
/r/MGTOW22/10/20 02:19 AM
1

Hahaha blue-pill life crashing into the red-pill wall so fast you find yourself in Bolivia
/r/MGTOW222/10/20 02:06 AM
1

Clear, quantifiable goals, and an absolute explosion of energy to achieve them. Write them down then get back to us. Great question, you are starting on the right path man.
/r/MGTOW22/10/20 12:38 AM
3

Too general, that it’s nonsensical... Superior at what? You would need to make this quantitative to be a real question worth considering.
/r/MGTOW222/10/20 12:35 AM
3

When you’ve had very little female attention in your life, it makes you even thirstier; you have seen a glimpse at some of the beauty of female behavior- the tip of the iceberg so to speak. So they see the iceberg tip, get thirsty, but do not have the skills or looks to continue to get that behavior, not the experience to guide them on how to get the behavior. So they default to their social programming, white knighting. Months go by, they get a slight hint of validation, and that gives them a c…
/r/MGTOW22/10/20 12:31 AM
2

100%
/r/MGTOW21/10/20 11:49 PM
3

Holy shit, that was eye opening. The dude giving ‘advice’ is a terrible, idiotic person.
/r/MGTOW21/10/20 11:29 PM
5

Sounds like an adventure. But seriously, yeah, you’d anticipate this being an unbelievably difficult transition in the face of a horrible injustice such as this.
/r/MGTOW221/10/20 11:27 PM
7

I cannot believe I still get shocked on the internet, but every day the bar is raised
/r/MGTOW21/10/20 10:25 PM
2

Hahaha I knew it. Thanks for reading I didn’t take the time, but I had the same quests. Qualitative rather than quantitative
/r/MGTOW21/10/20 10:20 PM
1

I knew it
/r/MGTOW21/10/20 10:19 PM
1

Just a guess, something tells me they evaluate the qualities of caring and fair as the opinion to spread resources through society the most. Qualitative, not quantitative, because if they measured it by quantity, hands-down men redistribute more resources. But I’m sure that women want this ‘fairness’ more. If anyone has the time to read let me know if I hit the bullseye.
/r/MGTOW21/10/20 10:18 PM
1

Haha not even most MGTOW would say something like this about women
/r/MGTOW221/10/20 10:15 PM
9

When I broke up with my first girlfriend, we still ‘stayed in touch’ ahem, and she went for this dude in between. He was a wanna be DJ. lol. Few months later when she came crawling back to me she gave me the whole love-bombing/god complex saying that she didn’t realize just how hard I worked and what an attractive trait that was (she complained about my dedication to my craft throughout our relationship, never enough time for her etc). Apparently this DJ guy would just smoke weed and chill on he…
/r/MGTOW21/10/20 10:11 PM
38

Why do these men not flee from their countries in protest? I’d disappear into South America if I was a victim of such injustice
/r/MGTOW221/10/20 07:43 PM
12

Great post, I don’t disagree. The freedom allows me to put even more effort into building and maximizing my autonomy, which I think at the end of the day is the true essence of the philosophy. For anyone who disagrees and thinks MGTOW is not freedom, I’d encourage you to consider that any domesticated animal has a hard time surviving in the wild after being let loose; the newfound freedom can feel like a new kind of entrapment at first.
/r/MGTOW221/10/20 06:02 AM
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From the article: “If we had a panic button, we’d be hitting it,” Sheryl Sandberg, chief operating officer of Facebook and co-founder of LeanIn.org, said in a statement. “Leaders must act fast or risk losing millions of women from the workforce and setting gender diversity back years.” The setback comes after women, who make up about half the U.S. workforce, had been making progress. Between 2015 and 2020 the share of women in senior vice president roles rose to 28% from 23%, and women have secu…
/r/MGTOW21/10/20 05:57 AM
7

Excellent work, keep rockin it
/r/MGTOW21/10/20 03:53 AM
3

AWAW
/r/MGTOW21/10/20 03:24 AM
13

Appreciate that this is a rational cost benefit analysis, and addressed the ‘hate’ misconception of the philosophy. Thanks OP
/r/MGTOW220/10/20 08:19 PM
27

Seems like it perfectly applies to MGTOW2- addresses they red-pill rage/‘hate’ misconception, gives men a look at sound reasoning as to why there is no hate but rather a rational cost/benefit analysis to modern dating. Content like this walks the line, but is an important step towards real autonomy. Just my input, hope it helps mods, I appreciate this sub and want to give my input on content. Thank you.
/r/MGTOW220/10/20 08:18 PM
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lol ‘to be a part of mgtow’. It’s not a group, it’s just an acronym to loosely describe the simple philosophy of maximizing one’s own autonomy and freedom. Necessarily, being in a relationship, of any kind, be it employment, romantic, platonic, etc, limits one’s autonomy and freedom. And so it’s encumber upon the individual to decide, which relationships will limit their autonomy to a point where They are no longer okay with the relationship. In the modern world (and arguably, at any time in his…
/r/MGTOW220/10/20 06:15 PM
2

‘Who hurt you??’
/r/MGTOW20/10/20 12:15 AM
6

Professionally and socially
/r/MGTOW219/10/20 05:59 PM
2

Let women have the corporate world
/r/MGTOW19/10/20 10:26 AM
2

AWAW
/r/MGTOW19/10/20 09:40 AM
2

AWAW
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 09:34 AM
2

If you could make that community you’d become very rich
/r/PurplePillDebate19/10/20 05:40 AM
3

Is Picard cool or did they ruin his masculine character
/r/MGTOW19/10/20 05:39 AM
6

MGTOW lifestyle actually allows me to take extreme risk in other areas (one could argue ‘for the benefit of society’).
/r/MGTOW219/10/20 04:51 AM
3

He should have worked harder to win her over
/r/MGTOW18/10/20 08:31 AM
10

Side effects may include getting more pussy offered to you than any PUA.
/r/MGTOW18/10/20 08:27 AM
1

Hahaha that is a monumental amount of work and headaches just to fuck
/r/PurplePillDebate17/10/20 06:17 AM
3

You asked, ‘are hoes starting to take over?’ I answered, rhetorically, ‘...starting?’ I.e. this has been going on for a long time; women’s primary power lies in their sexuality.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 09:54 PM
2

You have it backwards. Political views and the mainstream is determined by women. Women are the Overton window. Order of magnitude: biology > ideology
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 09:49 PM
1

...starting?
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 09:43 PM
1

Hahahaha
/r/PurplePillDebate16/10/20 09:40 PM
1

Not going to happen
/r/MGTOW16/10/20 08:06 PM
46

If women are so appealing, why do we need all the hormones?
/r/MGTOW16/10/20 07:33 PM
1

Reverse the genders
/r/MGTOW16/10/20 06:21 PM
8

I’d encourage you to not measure your masculinity with external activities (especially ones as dull as team sports, or intoxication). Instead try measuring it by your adherence to self-created principals, virtues, completion of goals, and adherence to ethics. Go your own way.
/r/MGTOW216/10/20 06:03 PM
2

AWALT is the traditional acronym, and it’s a great one for boiling down the complex topic. That being said, I still think it’s one move away from really getting to the heart of the concept: humans will behave as humans.
/r/MGTOW16/10/20 06:00 PM
3

Man thank you very much for the detailed response, this is extraordinarily fascinating. You’ve given me a great place to start.
/r/MGTOW16/10/20 05:58 PM
2

All Women Are Women
/r/MGTOW16/10/20 05:42 PM
3

Any chance you’d do a more in-depth post on this? Sounds like a great follow up to OPs question.
/r/MGTOW16/10/20 04:08 AM
2

AWAR
/r/MGTOW16/10/20 01:19 AM
6

Dude you are going to figure it out. Who around you has fought harder than you have these last 3 years? Keep pushing
/r/MGTOW16/10/20 01:17 AM
11

Great work. I’m considering the Cayman Islands myself. Anyone have any experience there?
/r/MGTOW15/10/20 10:36 PM
2

I agree, don’t worry, you’re preaching to the choir. I just personally don’t care much if there is venting on here. I actually often comment on those, helping lead the dude to the more insightful conversations.
/r/MGTOW213/10/20 01:48 AM
10

Venting is not hatred. Trust me, I understand the need for a sub like this to have a dispassionate analytical view of human nature, and to encourage men to get past the rage-stage. It’s just simply my opinion that this sub should be more lenient on those venting. Just because there are rules, does not mean that I don’t have an opinion about them. I am on this sub because I know the need for an analytical view of going one’s own way is necessary. However I am also on this sub because I am not a f…
/r/MGTOW212/10/20 10:29 PM
4

I am a practitioner of the 1-strike rule for all relationships in life. Very peaceful existence when principals are well defined.
/r/MGTOW12/10/20 07:13 PM
32

I’d rather have men post about what they want. If they need to vent, I am incredibly happy that they have a space to do so. For many, it is the best way to get past the rage-stage, and move onto self reflection and self work.
/r/MGTOW212/10/20 07:03 PM
2

You’re a fucking hero. Keep building and adhering to those principals, they will never fail you. Best of luck man
/r/MGTOW212/10/20 06:56 PM
1

Excellent take
/r/MGTOW12/10/20 04:35 AM
10

Nice work. I have always thought that most people would be very surprised by how we really look.
/r/MGTOW11/10/20 03:53 PM
1

Excellent post, courageous self reflection. Nice work man, keep pushing.
/r/MGTOW06/10/20 05:47 AM
1

Stfu that’s real?
/r/MGTOW06/10/20 05:42 AM
6

Great post, I think your are spot on. It’s fantastic to be getting so much of this well written, thoughtful content on this sub.
/r/MGTOW04/10/20 06:39 PM
5

He’s a brilliant designer too
/r/MGTOW204/10/20 03:40 PM
2

Agreed. I do not feel angry at a hurricane, or a hungry tiger, or a modern woman.
/r/MGTOW03/10/20 09:48 PM
8

Fucking excellent post. Anthropology, philosophy, poetry, history, all to support a logical argument. Breathe of fresh air brother, thank you for the enlightenment.
/r/MGTOW03/10/20 09:47 PM
5

Any sort of involuntary infringement on one’s autonomy. Women are a big one, and (for some) the most obvious. But certainly there are other landmines, like governments, employers, friends, peers, bad health, finances, that can all have detrimental effects to your autonomy. Continue building, every level will release new shackles.
/r/MGTOW201/10/20 08:26 PM
1

Whoa. That was a wild ride.
/r/MGTOW01/10/20 07:00 AM
2

Excellent work man.
/r/MGTOW01/10/20 02:51 AM
2

Of course, and were probably emotionally distraught by the first sentence
/r/MGTOW29/09/20 08:12 AM
2

Haha incredible post. Unfortunately, it is probably moreso that they simply do not understand
/r/MGTOW29/09/20 01:36 AM
1

Excellent move
/r/MGTOW28/09/20 10:55 PM
3

Fucking excellent post, I would love to see more MGTOW content like this. Keep pushing fucking hard man, glad to hear someone else in on their grind and actually doing something with their understanding of reality.
/r/MGTOW28/09/20 06:48 PM
1

Brilliant and insightful post
/r/PurplePillDebate25/09/20 05:44 PM
4

I have your answer. It’s difficult, but it’s the most powerful rule you can possibly live your life by. The 1 Strike rule. Define your principals, write them out, edit and improve on them often. If anyone crosses these principals knowingly, cut them out of your life, immediately. One strike. Your boss, your girl, your best friend, whoever. One strike. It requires a great deal of autonomy and fortitude to apply this, but once you can... You’ll be unstoppable. I once I had a girlfriend use name-ca…
/r/MGTOW223/09/20 11:52 PM
9

Yeah dude be incredibly incredibly cautious, it might not seem like it but you are in a very dangerous situation. Also.. friendly advice from an anon on the internet.. don’t ever tell a woman (much less a prostitute...) personal information like that. It’s like telling people about your finances, no good can come from it.
/r/MGTOW223/09/20 04:54 AM
22

How does she know you’re mgtow? Sounds dangerous as fuck.. just to get off.. Safer if she didn’t know you for sure. Like massively safer.
/r/MGTOW223/09/20 03:06 AM
1

I think about this a lot. Great post.
/r/MGTOW222/09/20 09:34 AM
20

RIP
/r/MGTOW22/09/20 12:52 AM
0

Hahaha unpopular opinion, actually funny as hell, I have seen this guy. I doubt this is representative of a substantial number of us though, but I don’t know that we have enough data to get a grasp of the macro personality of our little demographic
/r/MGTOW22/09/20 12:46 AM
5

I’m a millennial. Never tried it even once. Always seemed like the dumbest fucking waste of time imaginable.
/r/MGTOW222/09/20 12:41 AM
1

Man, I am very sorry to hear of your situation. This was a painful read, and not something anyone should have to go through. But you stuck your sick in crazy, and here you are. I think the generous comments here pretty much cover it, and I’m sure you are getting a ton of value out of them. But I’ll give my 02 cents as well. Hope it helps. Get angry. The injustice of your situation is enough to inspire hatred within you, and I doubt anyone would fault you for that feeling. My advice is to harness…
/r/MGTOW21/09/20 11:00 PM
-1

lol Like a woman, just want to know how I make my money. “I couldn’t read thru till the end. I still have no idea why you made this post.” Okay dude. Peace, good luck.
/r/MGTOW21/09/20 03:45 AM
1

This. Bullseye
/r/MGTOW20/09/20 11:26 PM
-1

Okay, my dude, I genuinely hope you receive this as constructive criticism, as I assume you’re on this sub to better yourself. You need to work on your reading and comprehension skills, as well as your logical thinking. I assume you’re young, so I encourage you to do a lot of reading. First, I never used the word scam. You are conflating profit with some sort of a negative connotation. Profit is not conning, or scamming. They are vastly different. Profit means I am earning from a voluntary excha…
/r/MGTOW20/09/20 11:23 PM
21

Damn that is fucking ridiculous. So what’s the plan?
/r/MGTOW20/09/20 02:52 PM
-1

... what does profit have to do with cons..? Did I use the word con in my post..?
/r/MGTOW20/09/20 02:35 PM
4

THIS
/r/MGTOW219/09/20 11:29 PM
6

hybristophilia
/r/MGTOW219/09/20 11:29 PM
1

Go get it dude, keep pushing
/r/MGTOW19/09/20 09:54 PM
1

Sounds like you’ve identified a weak point, now you know where to put in extra work to level up! Cheers man, keep pushing!
/r/MGTOW19/09/20 09:31 PM
1

Yeah it’s very difficult, I find myself in a very lucky situation, my company can be fully remote, and in many ways actually benefits from being remote. I also find myself with a fairly rare skill set that has been in-demand throughout the pandemic. My 02 cents would be to always have a ‘side hustle’ that builds skills that are remote, unique, and in-demand. I put ‘side-hustle’ in quotes because I don’t necessarily mean something that makes you money right away, but something that is an anti-fra…
/r/MGTOW19/09/20 09:17 PM
2

Great goals, although I’d never recommend betting on the state. As for me, hustling and getting fucking rich.
/r/MGTOW19/09/20 08:25 AM
3

3 nerves is more than 2.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/09/20 05:55 AM
1

I’m trying brother, I hope you are too.
/r/MGTOW19/09/20 05:54 AM
8

Very nice work. Great post and info, thanks for sharing. You should be very proud of your accomplishments man. I live the digital nomad lifestyle currently, it’s excellent, going from condo to condo, hotel to hotel, Airbnb to Airbnb, each as long as I want, whenever I want, making money and enjoying tons of different environments. It’s a lucky life, I intend to live it. Peace dude, keep pushing.
/r/MGTOW19/09/20 03:06 AM
1

Agree. But then again, who really cares about the acronym, or how any one person applies it.
/r/MGTOW219/09/20 03:04 AM
4

White knuckle this shit until you’re in a place where you’ve actually built some meaningfulness and purpose in your life.
/r/MGTOW18/09/20 11:25 PM
6

For a technical analysis, you can’t beat Barbarossa and Colltaine (YouTube channels). From there I’d recommend progressing to Quasimandias, for a much larger view of reality than you possibly imagined. His might be the greatest YouTube channel ever created. And try to avoid the red-pill rage stuff. I know it’s tempting, especially coming from a place of abuse like it sounds like you are. But women are just a tiny sliver of the subject of Goin Your Own Way. Welcome.
/r/MGTOW218/09/20 11:23 PM
3

Haha she looks sweet- AWALT
/r/MGTOW18/09/20 11:14 PM
5

I think culture is going to be much more of a determining factor here. Though I get why it’s so often confused with race. Some of the most incredible women I’ve ever met were East African women immigrated to the US. They certainly put to shame the culture of black American women, and of course, as you pointed out, Cali white women (horrible culture).. Still, AWALT is extremely important to always keep in mind...
/r/MGTOW18/09/20 09:41 PM
4

So what, your last attempt at a shred of pity you’re trying to get from anonymous dudes on a mgtow subreddit? Good riddance, at least you left a reminder for the rest of us why never to measure our success by the number of women we get approval from. You say you’ve spent time ‘working on yourself while everyone else lives’? The least you could do is not have your last written thought a fucking bold faced lie. If you were truly working on yourself, you WOULD be truly living, and you wouldn’t give…
/r/MGTOW218/09/20 12:38 AM
3

I might have been a bit more civil if you had spared the ad hominem, so excuse me when I return the favor. If you knew anything about ethics you’d know that voluntary exchange is not unethical. I have no moral qualms about exchanging a service for profit. Nor do I chase the profit itself; profit is merely a tool to build autonomy. And I’ve built enough autonomy that I have time to read daily, and gain an understanding of semantics so that when I encounter absolute fucking idiots like you on the …
/r/MGTOW17/09/20 11:29 PM
3

Already lived with standards for relationships high as fuck, wouldn’t settle. Already on a path myself, already learning about behavioral psychology/biology. Stumbled upon a Colltaine video a few years ago, and everything clicked. I don’t come from bad relationships with women, in fact quite the opposite. My goal has always been to look reality in the eye. Natural evolution for me.
/r/MGTOW17/09/20 10:02 PM
6

Most people do not have core belief systems. They are hard to forge, and even harder to maintain when tested. Women are rarely ever tested. Most people are rarely ever tested.
/r/MGTOW17/09/20 09:54 PM
1

Next time I’ll be sure to phrase is less ‘edgy’ so that inspiring individuals like yourself can actually contend with the ideas and add to the conversation like the rest of us.
/r/MGTOW17/09/20 09:44 PM
3

This happened to my company. We’re already crushing her and we haven’t even gone to court. Don’t ever capitulate
/r/MGTOW17/09/20 07:19 PM
1

The only person who you should ever modify your principals for is you, and you alone. Never capitulate, never compromise. Lower your standards and see what a bronze medal tastes likes.
/r/MGTOW17/09/20 07:17 PM
3

Well said.
/r/MGTOW17/09/20 09:27 AM
3

I appreciate this reply; best antidote to my flippant comment. I certainly agree, and my comment wasn’t scientific in the slightest. Due diligence and research is always required, especially when it comes to business and finance, especially because there are exceptions to the rule. Appreciate the thoughtful reply. Hope you’re killin it in the markets man
/r/MGTOW16/09/20 06:37 PM
1

Real Vision Finance
/r/MGTOW16/09/20 06:13 PM
4

I thought the same thing, brilliant show.
/r/MGTOW16/09/20 03:15 AM
1

You’re right, and brave, to look reality in the eye and not take the bullshit from either your therapists or the incels. Looks are a massive, massive determining factor in how people treat you, in most interactions it is an incredibly predictive factor. You probably do look quite unique, and not in a way that has positive associations. And why would it? Defects to the eyes are something that no parent would want for their kids, so yes, at a primal level, you are probably ugly to women. Okay so w…
/r/MGTOW216/09/20 12:57 AM
11

Thanks for the heads up. There is no greater correlation with failure
/r/MGTOW15/09/20 07:38 PM
7

No, not at all. That dude is pathetic, has no understanding of behavioral psychology or biology, and is upset because another person exercised her right to do what she wanted with her own body.
/r/MGTOW15/09/20 07:36 PM
2

Hahahahaha that is hilarious and made my day
/r/MGTOW15/09/20 07:32 PM
2

Unfortunately I can’t go into too much detail due to anonymity, but I go very heavy towards design, art, fashion, 3D, AI, deep learning, kettlebell, martial arts, finance, macro economics, crypto, nutrition, behavioral psychology, biology, and ethics. I work on all of these simultaneously; they have beautiful overlap, and with any luck and an absolutely explosive amount of hard work in the coming decades, I might be able to find the perfect overlap and create something truly unique in my life.
/r/MGTOW15/09/20 07:28 PM
1

100.
/r/MGTOW15/09/20 05:33 AM
2

Make a list of 100 free activities that sound even mildly interesting. Then try the top 10 that stand out to you most, punch you in the gut, so to speak. A month later, narrow it down to 4, after spending at least several sessions/hours with each. The 4 that punch you in the gut. Now, pursue those 4 fucking relentlessly, and watch your life become an absolute fucking masterpiece over the course of the next decade.
/r/MGTOW15/09/20 04:52 AM
1

Dude this might sound strange but your actually in an awesome position. Hear me out. You have accurately diagnosed the situation, you haven’t lied to yourself, you’ve been brutally honest. You understand that you are in a perfect position to cut all ties with the evil, abusiveness of your family, you have nothing that prevents you from doing that. You are just about at rock bottom, which means you have options with little downside. From here, do something fucking DRASTIC (as an alternative to su…
/r/MGTOW14/09/20 10:41 PM
21

This scares the fuck out of me
/r/MGTOW14/09/20 10:35 PM
1

Those dudes probably are cooler than you. One way to measure that is attention from the opposite sex, sure, but it sounds like you’re also measuring that in other ways. Be honest with yourself; could you be better? If so, don’t become better for girls, become better for YOURSELF. That way you’ll have the best metric to measure your success: your own respect. If you just become better to get validation from others, or validation from girls, you won’t have the same level of respect for yourself. S…
/r/MGTOW214/09/20 10:32 PM
7

He has quality content and it’s worth reading about for sure. As far as his views on MGTOW, because he is a salesman, he cannot give the same level of quality thought to MGTOW philosophy as he does his own; I.e. his philosophy has to have all the answers so he can sell it, and any other form of thought in the same space (like MGTOW) he will not give as thorough of a response to. At least he gives the MGTOW philosophy it’s dues by saying that MGTOW correctly diagnoses the situation from a behavio…
/r/MGTOW12/09/20 10:53 PM
2

Principals by Ray Dalio Anti-Fragile by Nasim Teleb Anything by Christopher Hitchens The Moral Landscape by Sam Harris Some of my favorites that have helped me immensely guide this exhilarating life
/r/MGTOW12/09/20 01:48 AM
4

Best part is, once you’re truly on your mission, you’ll have the option of getting laid way more than pua...
/r/MGTOW11/09/20 01:49 AM
1

Thanks for this research, now we all know a thing or two about sluts
/r/MGTOW20/07/20 03:57 AM
3

Excellent read, congratulations on all the work you’ve put in. You made us all proud, but that’s nothing compared to how proud you should be of yourself. Keep pushing hard, imagine where you’ll be in a few more years.
/r/MGTOW203/07/20 08:55 PM
3

Working on disrupting an entire industry and bringing all its practitioners to their knees.
/r/MGTOW03/07/20 04:44 PM
2

Hahaha that’s actually hilarious
/r/MGTOW202/07/20 06:00 PM
2

Well first things first, get him onto this sub. Damn, dating is such a fucking waste of time.. I feel for you dude, best of luck to your boy.
/r/MGTOW30/06/20 08:01 PM
3

Quasimandias changed my life. In my opinion, the greatest YouTube channel of all time.
/r/MGTOW30/06/20 06:51 PM
2

Really sorry dude, that sucks that your memories are tarnished and you had to hear that from someone you cared about. Stay strong man, you’re not a rapist, and you’ll continue to strive to be an incredible person.
/r/MGTOW30/06/20 03:31 AM
2

I woke up this morning to find that a great YouTuber, who has helped me clarify my own values and principals, as well as many friends of mine and hundreds of thousands of people around the world, had their channel taken down. I looked up his Wikipedia and it blatantly claims that he is a ‘white supremacist’ and an ‘alt-right leader.’.. these claims are blatantly false.. My last girlfriend, who is an amazing person, and just happens to be Ugandan (aka BLACK) was also a fan of his... So here we ar…
/r/MGTOW29/06/20 10:35 PM
1

I hope not
/r/MGTOW29/06/20 05:56 PM
7

Exactly, love it
/r/MGTOW29/06/20 04:14 AM
2

Anti-fragility
/r/MGTOW29/06/20 02:46 AM
1

lol that was heartfelt. I’d give you your own reddit if I could man. Hope to see you on the other side tomorrow
/r/MGTOW229/06/20 02:43 AM
5

AWALT
/r/MGTOW29/06/20 02:40 AM
1

No mention of values..? If I’d ever even consider dating, she needs to have values that she lives herself; honesty, integrity, curiosity, perseverance, bravery, dedication, morality, etc. No wonder I’m single, this generation of women basically 1 in 100000 even knows what values are...
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/20 02:05 AM
1

It’s they’re sapiens
/r/MGTOW27/06/20 08:58 PM
15

Agreed! This weekend while everyone else is binging Netflix I’m going to work on my grind uninterrupted and get ahead for a deadline next week. For me.
/r/MGTOW227/06/20 06:07 PM
1

Quite a few. I’ve chosen my social circles carefully. That being said though, I’m always skeptical of what’s going behind closed doors to guys in relationships.
/r/MGTOW227/06/20 05:59 PM
1

You’re going to do him proud. There’s no shame in stumbling, or grieving. You’ll pick yourself up in good time, and do right by your father.
/r/MGTOW27/06/20 05:39 PM
2

Haha great responses. Tell em when they’ve found a chick that’s truly up to your standards then hit you up. If there never is one, just keep crushing it at life, laughing at those responses along the way. After a while either they’ll trail off or the quality of women will have advanced so much that once you fuck a few of them you’ll realize that your grind was way more intriguing all along.
/r/MGTOW26/06/20 03:16 AM
1

lol just read up on anthropology, behavioral psychology and evolutionary psychology... you’ll realize there actually isn’t a whole lot to debate.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/06/20 03:13 AM
14

What would your Dad want you to do now? You can become your own support, you can be as strong as he was. He gave you that strength, he sacrificed for it. Use it now.
/r/MGTOW26/06/20 03:10 AM
5

Haha alright my next post I will!
/r/MGTOW25/06/20 09:30 PM
1

Alright, my next post!
/r/MGTOW25/06/20 09:29 PM
1

I’ve been playing chess for a couple years and from day 1 I was like ‘when am I going to see the outrage at this?’ Finally it’s arrived. I assume it took so long because dumb people don’t generally play chess.
/r/MGTOW25/06/20 08:30 PM
6

I have a bombshell of a post that I’ll write one day about my own company and our 4 feminist hires. But for the long story short, I engaged in this type of useless girl-talk to their faces, gleaned enough info to know their next move, dodged all bullets while my blue pill coworkers (who have radically less extreme views than I do and go out of their way to bend over backwards for these women) got accused and raked through the coals. I got out totally safe, unaccused, feminists thought I was thei…
/r/MGTOW25/06/20 08:14 PM
1

Such a rewarding lifestyle. I own a computer, a kettlebell, a car, and my portfolio is incredibly defensive and liquid. Simple, empowering. Keep doing you.
/r/MGTOW224/06/20 08:14 PM
1

Calhoun’s Mice
/r/MGTOW224/06/20 06:09 PM
81

Get it dude, fucking excellent work
/r/MGTOW23/06/20 11:54 PM
4

I’m sure men would if there was market demand for their bodies, but I’m sure it wouldn’t be at the same rates as women
/r/MGTOW23/06/20 09:53 PM
2

Excellent man! Go hard, if it’s showing some progress, it’s gonna take all of you to bring it to fruition
/r/MGTOW23/06/20 05:04 PM
2

hahaha I can neither confirm nor deny
/r/MGTOW23/06/20 05:46 AM
14

Sounds like he’s intimidated by even the thought of your surpassing his mediocrity. Go surpass it, go harder in life than he could ever dream of. Smear his face in his own averageness, and live your own philosophy instead of just reading about it from anons on reddit. If someone laughs at you for living your life, you make them choke on that laughter.
/r/MGTOW223/06/20 04:28 AM
2

Haha not related to space exploration, but it sounds like that’s where your interest might lie. Are you going after extra-planetary exploration?
/r/MGTOW23/06/20 03:55 AM
2

You too man; you only get this one life, please hit it fucking hard.
/r/MGTOW223/06/20 02:53 AM
5

I love it. In fact, I am largely in favor of ideas like the ones you’d find on FDS, continuing to get mainstream attention. Not only is there a ton of money to be made off simps and women, but the more this lunacy is amplified, the stronger the modern male resolve will become.
/r/MGTOW23/06/20 01:39 AM
10

I knew guys like this. Honestly betas are the creepiest guys, always fucking after something, always thinly concealing their true, obvious, intentions. I actually don’t really blame women for being weary of these types of dudes, they’re so pathetic that they do often stoop to really low behavior just to touch pussy. Who fucking knows if this is rape, it’s obvious that this isn’t the full story, but damn that guy just sounds fucking pathetic to me. I’ve had a couple drinks and am alone at a high …
/r/MGTOW23/06/20 01:27 AM
1

You.. can’t accept reality? So what will you do? Modify the laws of physics?
/r/MGTOW222/06/20 06:27 PM
0

hahaha that’s actually fuckin hilarious
/r/MGTOW22/06/20 12:54 AM
6

I did jiu jitsu today for the first time in 3 months and it was a fucking holy experience.
/r/MGTOW22/06/20 12:51 AM
2

Having contributed something culturally important and creatively liberating.
/r/MGTOW22/06/20 12:05 AM
2

I think this is spot on. Great concise explanation
/r/MGTOW20/06/20 04:44 PM
3

I’m witnessing the same thing. I just had a somewhat long (for me) stay with my parents and caught up with some friends during that time too. This time (I try to do this trip once every year or so), the chasm between myself and my family/friends was almost too much for me. It continues to widen every time I see them. I decided that I’m going to go a much longer time away from anyone in my past. It’s such a peaceful thought; as soon as I allowed myself to have that plan, it was like a massive bur…
/r/MGTOW20/06/20 07:01 AM
1

You’re looking at the surface. Go deeper. The more popular an idea becomes, the more generalized the IQ of the followers becomes. That doesn’t say anything about your journey into the philosophy, nor the philosophy itself.
/r/MGTOW220/06/20 01:45 AM
1

What is your end goal? Take your time.
/r/MGTOW220/06/20 01:07 AM
6

Excellent work, great progress.
/r/MGTOW19/06/20 11:03 PM
1

I agree. But I also agree that we should be happy that men on MGTOW2 are getting it off their chest that they want to find their unicorn. Both views should be shared; both views should get rationed counter viewpoints.
/r/MGTOW19/06/20 09:28 PM
1

Well now you know the difference. And besides, redundancy is a form of anti-fragility.
/r/MGTOW19/06/20 09:27 PM
2

Haha I know. Such a strange dichotomy of feeling. I feel bad for the simps, but I do love em for making me rich. Maybe one day I’ll use the power for good and help get us up to .0002%
/r/MGTOW19/06/20 02:35 AM
2

Sometimes I wish mgtow/rp would stop gaining traction; all those simps do make me a lot of money.
/r/MGTOW18/06/20 11:42 PM
3

Dang you’ll be happy to know I’m actually working on this right this very moment.
/r/MGTOW18/06/20 09:44 PM
1

What did you do for your sleep? Nice work dude, keep going
/r/MGTOW18/06/20 05:08 PM
17

this. Buy yourself that cabin with the settlement money
/r/MGTOW18/06/20 07:55 AM
14

I sincerely hope your writing to your government was better than your writing here. Regardless, I’m fully in support of your decision, it’s nothing short of heroic. As an anonymous coward with good reasons myself, I really wish you well. Please share updates, I’m fascinated by this response; I have libertarian wet-dreams myself about doing something similar at a point in my life. Peaceful, rational protest for the sake of civilizational morals is a very high form of excellence. If I can offer an…
/r/MGTOW18/06/20 07:49 AM
1

MGTOW1 is about the usual first phase, the red-pill rage phase. Once you’re able to start getting over that come over here to MGTOW2 and start the real journey. The 2 go well with each other; they offer the complete package of online, anonymous therapy. Remember, the reason you see a constant stream of complaints of women’s nature over there is just because there are continuous newbies. It not like it’s the same guys year after year; it’s just part of the new cycle.
/r/MGTOW218/06/20 05:03 AM
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Haha the hostility between to 2 subs makes me laugh; OP is right, each sub to each their own. They’re complimentary. Start with red-pill rage, get it out anonymously there, when finished hop over here to start the next phase of the process
/r/MGTOW218/06/20 02:15 AM
1

How do you know that? It sounds like you’d like help rationalizing your mediocrity, so you never have to see if you you can be excellent. Maybe you really are just average. Or maybe you’re more. You decide.
/r/MGTOW217/06/20 04:09 PM
1

Black pill to start the day!
/r/MGTOW217/06/20 04:06 PM
7

My care is fading. I try to push it to fade faster, but then I see some terribly fucked up thing in the world, though my tolerance for hearing about humans horrible behavior is so high already it’s kinda worrying. I don’t think it’s something one can rush, you just have to let the waves of indifference continue to crash into your psyche, at their own pace. But don’t worry, society will keep that pace and continue to jade us all..
/r/MGTOW17/06/20 12:06 AM
8

I’m in my 20s and can’t imagine a bigger waste of time. Never done it, sounds pathetic as fuck.
/r/MGTOW16/06/20 05:29 PM
6

When are you gonna bounce?
/r/MGTOW16/06/20 05:22 PM
5

Haha great writing. I love the universe’s serendipitous moments. Let your your own budding philosophy fill the world, and then sit back and be a good student.
/r/MGTOW15/06/20 05:10 PM
1

Thank you very much for these recommendations and the the insight. I’ve done really well in the market during this time which makes me nervous haha. Purchasing them on my audible account now!
/r/MGTOW15/06/20 05:03 PM
3

Damn great post, makes me want to buy some autobiographies. Hope everyone pursues this type of excellence.
/r/MGTOW15/06/20 07:07 AM
3

Excellent work; these are the best kinds of posts. I’m in a similar position, a bit older, and I came at it from the other way around, I went after the skill-sets first and am now working my way into business side. I worked hard to gain a foundational yet unique skill-set, now I’m it at the point where I’m able to build real, durable assets. It looks like you have this down OP, the only things I’d add are to keep an extremely defensive portfolio right now. Your growth goal looks pretty aggressiv…
/r/MGTOW15/06/20 07:01 AM
2

Can you give some advice on a good way to start in these 2 areas?
/r/MGTOW15/06/20 06:47 AM
12

I recently re-watched a few episodes of The Office (I enjoyed it as a kid). It was so fucking eye opening. Jim is the biggest pussy whipped simp, and Pam is a chillingly hypergamous amoral leech. My family, who I watched it with, did not understand what I was ‘over reacting to.’ But don’t worry, we have Frank Underwood as a role model. The most powerful man in the world, still a simp. You could be right.
/r/MGTOW15/06/20 01:19 AM
1

I’ve actually asked a few of of my gay friends this (males), as I’m fascinated by the question as well. My suspicion is that, just like rates of domestic abuse, negative effects from relationships are far fewer for gay male relationships than any other type of relationship. It’s still an infringement on ones autonomy, but I have a suspicion they don’t have nearly as many of the negative physiological effects as strait relationships.
/r/MGTOW15/06/20 01:14 AM
1

This is a great question in my opinion, and would prove that this is a realized mode of thought, and not simply a prejudice we have. For me, I simply would need to see that, in fact, male and female nature are complimentary and beneficial to each individual. This could be shown through simple statistics. If the majority of relationships self-reported that their well-being was enhanced, year after year, by being in a relationship with the opposite gender, and then physiologically verified that th…
/r/MGTOW15/06/20 01:03 AM
8

This actually kind of hit me. It’s sad that a young man can be so close to figuring out a much larger, more purposeful picture, and you were generous enough to add mother few drops of knowledge, only to be sabotaged by censorship. It strikes me as evil. I’m mostly over the grieving part of the journey, but every once in a while something like this just hits me in the wrong way. I hope that young man read your comment. I hope he keeps pushing hard.
/r/MGTOW14/06/20 10:13 PM
3

You’re doing fantastically. Trust me, your introduction to the philosophy is healthier than most. Keep going.
/r/MGTOW14/06/20 05:37 PM
3

I genuinely hope that all the guys stuck in the red-pill rage phase go through that emotion healthily, and then keep going. It would be interesting to see some statistics on this, but I fear we’re too small a sample size to draw any conclusions. I always bemoan the fact that most men get here through pain.
/r/MGTOW214/06/20 05:09 PM
3

Excellent work. Keep pushing
/r/MGTOW14/06/20 04:59 PM
16

This. A much greater teacher than randoms on the Internet. Listen, you already know the advice we’re all going to give, each consisting of different flavors of harshness. I’m sure you’ve bitten into the apple of mgtow content these past few months. But I also know, that mgtow content does not have the same addictive hormonal buzz that your old girl has. Guess which one usually wins? I hope your mind is stronger than that of an addicts. As a former addict myself, and as someone who has known many…
/r/MGTOW14/06/20 04:57 PM
1

Yes, quite often a woman’s emotional state feels like her reality, despite any evidence to the contrary.
/r/MGTOW14/06/20 04:45 PM
1

Please read carefully. I said most relationships are pointless. But yes, part of that comes from man’s varying expectations of reality, despite their being little evidence that reality contorts for one’s own desires.
/r/MGTOW214/06/20 04:44 PM
2

That’s horrifying, I’m sorry you had to go through that. I genuinely hope you can keep fighting to turn that experience will hell into something empowering.
/r/MGTOW14/06/20 04:42 PM
8

Do it. Nothing is going to help you more than putting your head back into her jaws... if you survive this time. Best of luck
/r/MGTOW14/06/20 04:35 PM
20

This gives me the shivers. I can’t imagine any human ever debilitating my autonomy to this degree. Think of the psychological damage that comes with this.
/r/MGTOW14/06/20 05:55 AM
1

That too. Truly if there ever was a time to prove that Homo sapiens are truly unique, that time would be now.
/r/MGTOW214/06/20 05:51 AM
12

Great read. Pure autonomy, massive success. Keep fighting hard man.
/r/MGTOW13/06/20 11:47 PM
50

I’d say it’s worth being an asshole to be that real
/r/MGTOW13/06/20 11:45 PM
55

Disagree; women’s behavior is almost as predictable and mundane as a plant.
/r/MGTOW13/06/20 11:43 PM
1

Haha
/r/MGTOW13/06/20 10:01 PM
6

Never had this experience. It was always me that did this, and only to the girls who warranted it. I had one cheat on me, I texted her ‘never contact me again.’ Was over within the hour. Worked beautifully, though that caused ripples in my social circles and suddenly even more girls wanted at me... More indifference, more problems. More money, more solutions.
/r/MGTOW13/06/20 08:59 PM
2

I’m applying this at this very moment! Very productive Saturday, hope yours is as well
/r/MGTOW213/06/20 07:49 PM
1

Love this. Excellent work
/r/MGTOW213/06/20 07:07 PM
1

Excellent progress
/r/MGTOW213/06/20 07:05 PM
-1

Thanks for writing. I feel for you. Keep strong man, keep pushing hard, and do not let the histories of others, no matter how shared, bring you down.
/r/MGTOW13/06/20 07:04 PM
7

You know, just as AWALT is a rather genius term that describes the behavioral and biological universalities of the female sapien, so to would a AMALT do the same for the male. But let’s not hold our breath thinking that they’ll have the same value of objective truth as we do...
/r/MGTOW13/06/20 05:43 PM
12

I toss and turn at night thinking about all the opportunities in the world. The world is going to need strong, individualistic men desperately in the coming decades. Therein lies tremendous opportunity for us.
/r/MGTOW13/06/20 05:36 PM
1

I like this a lot, thanks for sharing this paradigm
/r/MGTOW213/06/20 05:33 PM
2

I very much enjoyed reading your addition, great points. I can’t help but be uplifted by both of our conclusions that the average man has the capacity to know certain truths. I know that instead of being uplifted, I should simply take it as fact, as I do with the other side of the coin, the inevitability of continued widespread ignorance. I just find logical defeatism not particularly motivating. Do you ever get stuck in this trap? It’s like reading Hitchens to a 3 year old: I am thrilled to be …
/r/MGTOW13/06/20 05:32 PM
1

I like this strategy a lot, and hadn’t heard of lead vs lag before. Great mental tool, I appreciate you sharing.
/r/MGTOW213/06/20 05:21 PM
1

Agreed. Realism is not as comfortable, but surely better than optimism. Stay strong dude.
/r/MGTOW13/06/20 05:19 PM
55

I feel your pain. It warrants its own post, but I have had similarly destructive experiences with women in the workplace. Luckily I’ve learned how to be a gray-man so I myself got out of those situations okay, but I’ve witnessed the destruction of other’s, firsthand. In my most recent business venture, we’re still in the midst of dodging a rather massive bullet from former female employees. So I have a bit of experience in dealing with this. My best offer of advice is as simple as this: simply h…
/r/MGTOW13/06/20 05:35 AM
3

This is the only chance of a catalyst. I’m pessimistic when it comes to making any meaningful strides to get more men interested in this type of philosophy, but that doesn’t mean I’m disinterested in the project.
/r/MGTOW13/06/20 05:15 AM
2

Your last paragraph is extremely telling. It shows you’ve made a mountain of progress; you should be very proud of your achievements. Getting to this level of thought without expressing any pointless hostility is sign of maturity. And you’re clearly working hard to keep on a great path. Keep thinking about the concepts you introduced in that last paragraph. You’re onto something, and your improving your thinking fast. Keep pushing hard. Best of luck, and welcome to a great life.
/r/MGTOW213/06/20 05:12 AM
4

Realized it’s worth a post to its own.
/r/MGTOW13/06/20 03:23 AM
7

Modernity and it’s laws are merely the icing on the cake that I’ll never be eating. Look deeply into the nature of sapiens, you realize how pointless most relationships in life are.
/r/MGTOW13/06/20 03:10 AM
51

Fucking excellent work dude, keep going
/r/MGTOW13/06/20 03:05 AM
3

I said wealth, not money. I do enjoy your thinking though, and I certainly agree with the sentiment. My only addendum would be that each man needs to determine his purpose to determine the amount of resources that is optimal for his existence.
/r/MGTOW13/06/20 03:05 AM
1

Not sure why they named is MG_TAO but I liked the play on words, and the idea that the acronym is anti-fragile; the letters mean very little and the idea can still grow and flourish without having to be called MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW12/06/20 11:40 PM
1

I appreciate your thoughts on everything, and am looking forward to reading more about your story. I encourage you to keep pushing your English by writing, and what better way than through deep conversations online with likeminded men. I hope you get some clarity to your own situation as well. You’re still very young, there’s no reason to give up. Keep pushing forward. And let us know what we can do to help.
/r/MGTOW212/06/20 11:22 PM
3

Wealth helps create time and autonomy. Both of which are foundational things to master to be able to go your own way. I believe you’re off in your assessment.
/r/MGTOW12/06/20 11:14 PM
1

Sounds like a pointless waste of time, and thanks for helping us get banned a bit faster. Seriously, please work on your mental health; getting this angry about it enough to fantasize about killing will do much more harm than good. The world is filled with atrocities; pointless killing won’t do anything to better the situation.
/r/MGTOW12/06/20 11:04 PM
3

Hybristophilia: an important term to understand.
/r/MGTOW12/06/20 05:11 PM
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I don’t know what’s more chilling, those stats, or that woman’s way of argumentation. Hope you were anonymous. And thank you, I suppose, for the statistics, as disturbing as they were, it was fascinating.. ..
/r/MGTOW11/06/20 07:26 AM
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this
/r/MGTOW11/06/20 07:19 AM
3

Really insightful. Keep pursuing this train of thought, I’m sure it will lead to much more interesting places than the blue pill life.
/r/MGTOW211/06/20 05:15 AM
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If you value yourself, you have a much better chance of valuing the effort that’s required to attain wealth. Others can’t value your wealth; they don’t know what it took to attain it. Be extremely careful with this majority of people, their envy is only held back by a thin veil of social restrictions. In a heartbeat they’d bleed you dry and take your hard-won assets if they had the ability. I recommend the gray-man lifestyle, and the ability to go in and out of the system at will. Keep increasin…
/r/MGTOW10/06/20 07:48 PM
2

Thanks for sharing this gem. Make every moment the very best it can be, you only get one shot. Don’t waste it, don’t engage in pointless things, and don’t let others drag you down to those things. Ever.
/r/MGTOW10/06/20 07:39 PM
2

Excellent work, this made my day, as I’m sure it made your life. This is nothing short of heroic, and I appreciate you sharing it here. Even the most disenfranchised man has it in him to persevere and achieve results. Keep going. Looking forward to your next post.
/r/MGTOW10/06/20 07:36 PM
2

Waste of time
/r/MGTOW10/06/20 06:41 PM
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Jesus. I’m borderline sociopathic and I can’t even fathom doing something as pointless and degenerate as a rape. Only a pointless fucking loser would engage in such an immoral and empty act. Not to mention it’s not a particularly effective mating strategy in Homo sapiens; biologically speaking, most men are certainly not rapists.
/r/MGTOW10/06/20 06:35 PM
1

Exactly. When semantics can destroy lives.
/r/MGTOW210/06/20 06:27 PM
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Among other reasons, it gives power back to the disenfranchised. Most people have no power and no autonomy in their lives, and when they see unlikely candidates to become empowered, like average men, their emotional response is a cocktail of negativity, jealousy, and hostility. MGTOW saves lives. Why should our lives be saved before any one else’s? Because we dared look for truth.
/r/MGTOW10/06/20 05:13 PM
3

Spot on, though I’m troubled to say that it’s much more than just that.. the biological cards are stacked against us
/r/MGTOW210/06/20 05:10 PM
2

I appreciate the thoughtful comments and questions, by answering I hope we can both crystallize some of our thoughts. Regarding your own marriage, I would be interested to learn more about it, perhaps in its own post, as you described it as a mistake. One of these days your built-up penchant for action may overtake you, and you might have benefitted from some alternate perspectives. We on this sub are here to help, if ever you need it. Thank you for your compassion. It’s a compassionate things t…
/r/MGTOW210/06/20 05:03 PM
3

Biology is a cruel captor
/r/MGTOW210/06/20 04:18 PM
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This just happened to me on this very sub. There’s a reason we’re anonymous, and the importance of the topics that MGTOW dives into cannot be understated enough. Be safe out there, I recommend the gray-man lifestyle.
/r/MGTOW10/06/20 07:28 AM
9

Excellent realization, you just took the important first step of liberation. Now follow through.
/r/MGTOW210/06/20 07:26 AM
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Good on you. Be careful for yourself too, your generosity and bravery is commendable, but recognize that you’re also putting yourself in danger. That being said, I recommend the same as OP; if you see another person in trouble like this, for the sake of your own empowerment, it’s worth considering helping them out.
/r/MGTOW10/06/20 07:23 AM
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Okay I’m going to be the controversial one and say that the second poster is actually hilariously correct.
/r/MGTOW10/06/20 07:19 AM
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Very excellent work dude. Keep going, push harder
/r/MGTOW10/06/20 07:17 AM
3

Your pettiness made for a fun read. I recommend a much larger cup.
/r/MGTOW10/06/20 07:16 AM
1

I think you do see this, just the richer version. If you have the money, many mainstream people do leave cities. I personally love this strategy, and had never heard it described it this way from Brazil, so thank you for your post. Being able to go into the system when necessary to extract resources (it’s still very rich, there a lot of great opportunity within) and then leave whenever you want, no infringement to your liberty, that is a very empowered life. I highly recommend doubting in the ha…
/r/MGTOW210/06/20 07:08 AM
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I appreciate this post, it was raw and honest. Keep writing, it looks like you’re already finding a lot of clarity in writing; you listed many great answers to your problems in those paragraphs yourself. You said it yourself; you can live off the fucking street if necessary. Okay, so go do that. Seriously. You’ve diagnosed the problem, and you’ve had the bravery to admit to the parts that are your own wrong doing. Now use that raw emotion and actually take action. It doesn’t exactly matter what …
/r/MGTOW210/06/20 07:02 AM
1

Excellent pick
/r/MGTOW10/06/20 06:47 AM
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I think so too, and if she had said that without changing my meaning to ‘abuse’, I might have had an actual discussion with her. Believe it or not, I actually can see how someone could construe that from my writing, though I didn’t suppress my girlfriends emotions in the slightest; we actually encouraged each other’s emotionality. And to answer your first question, however rhetorical: there is no such thing as ‘healthy fighting.’ Not in MMA, not in relationships.
/r/MGTOW210/06/20 06:46 AM
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My own inner critique I trust more than others.
/r/MGTOW10/06/20 06:38 AM
3

I’m not sure I understand this part, why are you worried about your Reddit acct being linked to your identity?
/r/MGTOW210/06/20 06:37 AM
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This PSA should be mentioned more. It’s a dangerous world, especially to those with original thought. It’s true that some women commentators do offer value; but the sad part is that it’s too dangerous to trust them due to the reputation their compatriots have created for them. Exact same thing happening in the workplace. Thanks for the insightful comment.
/r/MGTOW210/06/20 02:36 AM
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Couldn’t have said it better myself. It’s a depressing realization that most likely its not even possible for most people to have this sort of relationship. But the truth is more important than the comfort.
/r/MGTOW210/06/20 02:34 AM
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Very happy I read this, and I’m glad that you also come from some positivity in relationships. Your approach seems sound, and empowering. Keep pushing hard, excellent work so far. I wonder how much further we can go.
/r/MGTOW10/06/20 02:16 AM
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Thank you very much.
/r/MGTOW10/06/20 02:06 AM
2

I think you’re not alone in that sentiment. We are all shown ‘the way’ to be, but are seldom told just how many ways to be there really are. Keep doing the good work, hopefully you can excise some of that regret by being the one who did have that conversation with younger men.
/r/MGTOW10/06/20 02:06 AM
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This is the most fucking important piece of writing I think I’ve read on this sub, one amongst many many important pieces. Thank you for this insight. There’s a reason why I’ve often heard the phrase ‘daily dose of red pills’, but I didn’t think about it as deeply as you have. Really appreciate the insight, and thank you for your contribution to the cascade.
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 10:59 PM
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To varying degrees, you’re right. This is true for most people I think. But a few, including some women, I’ve witness actually reflect on their behavior and then make the appropriate changes to not engage I t hat behavior anymore. I know this to be true about my ex because I witnessed her change her behavior even in private when she thought no one would ever see her. I can’t be more specific unfortunately, but it’s beautiful to witness real self reflection in anyone. Moments like that are what l…
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 10:55 PM
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Don’t worry, you are not alone. I’m in my late 20s, and constantly have to keep thoughts of negative self-worth at bay. But then I do some simple math and realize that I have such an absurd amount more skills than most people I meet, even regardless of age. My 02 cents: try to use this feeling you have to fuel you. Allow yourself to get angry, especially if that anger is self directed. Be objective: do you really lack skills? Or did is that mode of thinking pressed onto you by others? If it’s tr…
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 09:53 PM
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I appreciate that you confirmed this; I’m not surprised at all by your findings. Fascinating that one’s shortcomings can be used so efficiently to hurt others. Keep pushing hard dude, great advice from an actual fisherman.
/r/MGTOW209/06/20 09:48 PM
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Nice man, excellent work. I’ll be sure to check out that sub and read your work
/r/MGTOW209/06/20 09:45 PM
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Dysfunction on a massive scale, self perpetuating and inter generational. No thanks, I want no part in any of that. You’re right that people just want to justify their own shitty behavior and drag you down with them.
/r/MGTOW209/06/20 09:25 PM
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I’m completely with you. As soon as I posted I realized my title should have been On Female Lurkers (instead of To the Female Lurkers); I contradicted myself by saying don’t engage with these people, when my title suggests that I’m engaging with them. Oh well. And excellent strategy by the way, learning from women. Enjoy the massive success in your life that strategy brings. Appreciate the comments dude, keep killin it.
/r/MGTOW209/06/20 09:23 PM
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I’m sure we all, to varying degrees, have this feeling. It sounds like yours is lasting longer than most of us, but listen, if you’re using that emotion to fuel your purpose, at least it’s being somewhat constructive. My 02 cents; don’t worry about letting go of of this emotion yet. Don’t try to push it away if it’s still benefitting you. I think it might pass naturally, just stay on your path, strive for morality, and keep workin goin yourself.
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 09:03 PM
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Dang, I appreciate this insight, and am glad there’s someone else out there who was able to have this dynamic in their relationships too. Interesting that we both came to similar conclusions. Glad to see your principals flexed. Keep pushing.
/r/MGTOW209/06/20 08:54 PM
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I stand corrected, and appreciate the wit in your comment
/r/MGTOW209/06/20 08:51 PM
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why the downvote and comment devoid of meaning..?
/r/MGTOW209/06/20 08:34 PM
1

Haha this is something to be considered the field of astrophysics. .
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 08:14 PM
1

This is so spot on. I experience this more and more, every year. It turns so many people away (which is a good and bad thing), but the silver lining is the kind of people that it attracts.
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 07:09 PM
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I agree, though I think I would have avoided some of this power struggle, as she knew from day one that marriage was never an option. She actually even acknowledged that she could see how giving that kind of power can make people do terrible things, and was relieved that she wouldn’t have that temptation. I admired her self-reflection. However, you’re right, the deeper a relationship goes, the more power you give the other. And there’s no telling what even the greatest individual will do with th…
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 07:08 PM
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Appreciate that. Yeah the the most difficult cost benefit analyses are the most important, and it always pained me to see great men look the other way when they should have been staring it in the face. I see blindness everywhere, men not taking a good hard look and making the difficult decision that the juice ain’t worth the squeeze. I’m sure sometimes it is worth the squeeze. But all too often I see men half-heartedly squeezing, not realizing that there are other options.
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 07:03 PM
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Thank you, glad my words can help. I dunno about gospel, but hopefully there’s some wisdom there. I don’t insist that everyone treat me perfectly, but how I treat others indicates how I want to be treated. If anyone goes against my principals, they’re out of my life, easy as that. It’s actually a lot less work than the alternative. Best of luck, keep pushing, and you’ll build the respect you deserve.
/r/MGTOW09/06/20 07:00 PM
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Tell us about this, I have no clue what’s going on those photos. At first I thought weed, then I thought gold. Haha how far off am I?
/r/MGTOW209/06/20 01:15 AM
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Dope, I hope this trend catches on
/r/MGTOW08/06/20 07:46 PM
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Agreed with all. I think most of the red-pill rage MGTOW just can’t admit to themselves that they’re also losers, and that’s why they attract losers into their life. MGTOW makes the most sense if you’re actually on a path to better yourself; not because you’ve invited other terrible people into your life because you yourself are terrible and now want to eject without any self-reflection. I understand why this sub has the reputation it does. It’s unfortunate, but it’s important to call it what it…
/r/MGTOW208/06/20 07:46 PM
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I appreciate this insight. It is interesting that the same traits that attract women and keep the relationship strong are often the same ones that cause the relationship to not be compatible long term. Lifelong monogamy is undoubtedly a contentious subject. I didn’t mention anything about the dark triad, but I’m sure it’s rather obvious... I like to think it wasn’t ‘taking advantage’ or ‘manipulation’, and instead was two people having defined their own principals. But honestly it probably goes …
/r/MGTOW208/06/20 07:01 PM
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Man, thank you for this insight, I had not exactly considered that, but it is undoubtedly true; people change throughout their lives, and it’s not assured that the person you previously loved will keep those traits at their personalities forefront. It was only a 4 year relationship... not enough time to know. Thanks for the insight. I’ll see you around the forum
/r/MGTOW208/06/20 06:23 PM
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Haha keep killin it dude
/r/MGTOW208/06/20 06:11 PM
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Haha well at least anonymity helps out with that. See you around the forum
/r/MGTOW208/06/20 05:01 PM
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A very huge ‘if.’ I did not find it respectful when she flippantly referred to me as abusive. I am absolutely not, but that is the language that can do serious harm to someone’s life. Be careful
/r/MGTOW208/06/20 04:55 PM
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I might have appreciated this comment before reading your others. Now all it looks like is intellectual dishonesty.
/r/MGTOW208/06/20 04:53 PM
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No, you’re wrong, and your incessant contortion of language to suit your agenda is astounding. Please get off a men’s subreddit, you’re no longer offering anything constructive
/r/MGTOW208/06/20 04:51 PM
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I appreciate your comments backing up this thread. I realized that the person we’re both arguing with, who is purposefully misrepresenting my experience, is a woman. I should take my own advice, but I think it’s not worth it to argue with this type of woman, it’s clear that she won’t be objective reading this stuff, that the positive aspects of my relationship are challenging to her so instead of reading what I actually said she’ll classify it as abuse. It’s the reason why we are all on here ano…
/r/MGTOW208/06/20 04:49 PM
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And in this comment, you reveal that you didn’t actually read my post, but instead fit it into your own biased viewpoint. Never once did I say that I never allowed her to express negative emotions, that would be cruelty and couldn’t be anything further from the truth. Try to wrap your head around this: No fighting, no violence, no bickering in a relationship. I’m going to now guess that you’re a woman, and this concept is so foreign to you, and you yourself have never even attempted this sort of…
/r/MGTOW208/06/20 04:42 PM
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I take issue with your careless use of the term abuser. I found your previous comments insightful, but this one reveals your bias.
/r/MGTOW208/06/20 04:33 PM
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I feel for her too, and looking back I would have made different decisions. I agree on making a mistake.
/r/MGTOW208/06/20 04:31 PM
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She is better off without me, I agree. I’m certainly not controlling, but I could agree with the manipulation. I hope it was mostly positive, but manipulation nonetheless. What do you think my aversion to emotional expression tells?
/r/MGTOW208/06/20 04:22 PM
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Thank you, I relate. You the same
/r/MGTOW208/06/20 04:17 PM
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The best
/r/MGTOW07/06/20 11:08 PM
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Spot on. A lot of the rage you see on these types of subs is just from young guys who are fresh off a bad relationship. I think most of us get to the point where we realize it’s just nature, and the tension we have with female nature is merely our past desires and preconceptions clashing with reality. Look deeper than these ‘red-pill rage’ posts, there is a world of information worth considering here. I recommend 2 YouTubers specifically: Colltaine and Quasimandias. Welcome.
/r/MGTOW207/06/20 11:06 PM
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You’re the man
/r/MGTOW207/06/20 10:19 PM
1

Damn that’s sounds fascinating, will have to check out
/r/MGTOW07/06/20 08:51 PM
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I always got along with chad. I sometimes freaked him out when I decided I needed to take charge myself, but then was happy to give it back to him when circumstances went back to normal. I could care less about a the social hierarchy and that always makes Chad nervous, but at the end of the day he’s a guy too and can be treated as such.
/r/MGTOW07/06/20 05:58 PM
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You already know the answer. Just wanted to say that what your doing is nothing short of heroic. Having that much awareness and discipline at such a young age, all while being able to discern truth from the gibberish your own father is espousing. Absolutely excellent work. Keep pushing, discover the man you’ll be able to be if you keep down this path.
/r/MGTOW07/06/20 05:46 PM
1

Excellent picks
/r/MGTOW07/06/20 05:38 PM
1

Great question, one that I’ve considered for many years. My ex, the most incredible woman I’ve ever met, is from Uganda, and she comes from a large family that I might describe as lovingly patriarchal. Great relationship with her father, excellent relationship material herself. I love her, but I still went my own way. The family life I’m sure would have been great, and purposeful. I had dreams of leaving the US and raising a family with her in her home country, being a full-time father. But I wo…
/r/MGTOW07/06/20 05:29 PM
1

Excellent picks, would be interested to see you post some of them, they sound fascinating
/r/MGTOW07/06/20 04:55 PM
1

Post some of them!
/r/MGTOW07/06/20 04:54 PM
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How is it? Sounds cool
/r/MGTOW07/06/20 04:54 PM
2

Great picks
/r/MGTOW07/06/20 04:54 PM
2

JP’s 12 Rules is a great read, I read that with a loved one at the hospital. Very powerful. Haha that second one, what is that about??
/r/MGTOW07/06/20 04:53 PM
2

The benefits of MGTOW
/r/MGTOW07/06/20 04:52 PM
2

Award for most original
/r/MGTOW07/06/20 06:24 AM
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I appreciate the thoughts. Don’t worry, I’m way ahead of you on the skill acquisition, I’m reading and working on those all day long. These are the types of books I read to have a good time in my rare free time. I wouldn’t describe them as pseudo science, nor as science, but as a steppingstones of thought to our scientific understanding today. Have you ever read them? They’re fascinating, and have many ideas that aren’t necessarily true or have at this point now been debunked, but are nonetheles…
/r/MGTOW07/06/20 06:22 AM
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You’re a badass dude.
/r/MGTOW07/06/20 04:54 AM
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2 birds one stone, excellent reads
/r/MGTOW07/06/20 04:45 AM
1

What would you recommend instead
/r/MGTOW07/06/20 04:37 AM
1

Awesome pick
/r/MGTOW07/06/20 01:34 AM
2

Great pick
/r/MGTOW07/06/20 01:33 AM
1

Damn that sounds extremely interesting
/r/MGTOW07/06/20 12:55 AM
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Excellent collection man
/r/MGTOW07/06/20 12:55 AM
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Excellent dude, keep pushing hard
/r/MGTOW07/06/20 12:54 AM
2

Excellent choices, definitely finish those
/r/MGTOW07/06/20 12:22 AM
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Haha this was great. Keep writing
/r/MGTOW06/06/20 11:11 PM
1

Never heard of them, will have to check out. Thanks
/r/MGTOW06/06/20 11:02 PM
2

Excellent Dang
/r/MGTOW06/06/20 09:08 PM
3

Excellent dude! Feel free to share any insights here
/r/MGTOW06/06/20 09:06 PM
2

Wow this is really cool, looks like a rare print. Can you tell us a bit about it?
/r/MGTOW06/06/20 09:03 PM
1

Self Reliance is an incredible read. I try to read it every few years, I always get new insight from it. Great work.
/r/MGTOW06/06/20 09:02 PM
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I’m reading Civilization and it’s Discontents by Freud, and Man Alone With Himself right now. Great, insightful reads
/r/MGTOW06/06/20 05:57 PM
1

Also definitely true
/r/MGTOW06/06/20 04:59 PM
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I’ve met a few fellow gray-men. The really good ones will only give you a hint years after you’ve met them.
/r/MGTOW06/06/20 05:46 AM
2

No disrespect, can I ask how old you are? That sounds like a very binary description of masculinity, what it is and what it isn’t. I’ve heard very similar things from my grandfather. He thought that if a boy didn’t play sports, he’d turn out gay. It’s worth considering, that a man could be going his own way, and still be into some of the things you listed above. He could have built the autonomy and empowered himself to live a life free of judgement to engage in whatever he wants. I know a very e…
/r/MGTOW06/06/20 05:45 AM
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Kills me how much potential that man has, that can never be fully expressed because of lack of time.. time wasted on absolute fucking nonsense like this.
/r/MGTOW06/06/20 05:30 AM
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Excellent work not drinking. Highly commendable, and you’re putting your benefits to great use. I’d like to point out one more benefit you didn’t list that you clearly have: clarity of mind in your writing. Your post was well written, personal, and engaging. I’m sure you had that ability before, but I’m also sure it got sharpened since not drinking. Also nice work on your portfolio; Making out like a bandit in the market over the last few months has been fun as hell, and a great time to learn. T…
/r/MGTOW06/06/20 05:25 AM
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Just wanted to say, your senses on this are spot on. I see people witness this type of behavior and shrug it off like it’s not a big deal. Like it’s not an absolutely fucking horrific gaze into the void of evil behavior. Be extremely careful around this woman, and anyone who shrugs off her behavior. I highly recommend the gray-man lifestyle. Stay shook. Thanks for the post.
/r/MGTOW06/06/20 05:15 AM
2

Nice, I actually find bald chicks really attractive. Feminism: it first liberated men, and it just keeps on giving.
/r/MGTOW06/06/20 05:09 AM
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I really could care less about dirty jokes, locker room talk, etc, .. but I do like the idea of doing something social (camp is a great idea), to discuss the philosophy of MGTOW, while engaging in masculine activities. If it was something like a camp, having men of all ages get together and do things like wilderness survival, wrestling, reading/writing/orating, debating, chess, sketchbooks out in nature,.. I dunno Eagle Scout shit... By the way, as I’m writing this, I can’t help but hear a voice…
/r/MGTOW06/06/20 05:05 AM
2

Just got out of equities myself, slap in the face to see how well they bounced back haha
/r/MGTOW06/06/20 12:16 AM
1

Enjoy the struggle, that’s what life is about.
/r/MGTOW05/06/20 10:11 PM
3

Hmm, all I can see is an absurdly fascinating road ahead. Can’t wrap my head around boredom, otherwise I’m sure I’d have more useful advice for you. Maybe this will help, try your hand at something like: Boxing, drawing, digital modeling, jiu-jitsu, chess, stocks, bitcoin, behavioral biology, macro economics, philosophy, classical literature, Photoshop, judo, anthropology, finance, sailing, deep learning/AI, photography, marketing, entrepreneurship, wrestling, painting, nutrition, botany, boulde…
/r/MGTOW05/06/20 08:50 PM
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Hi. You’re not a dumbass, your just young. Since you used the word dumbass, I assume that you’re wanting to improve your wisdom and intelligence, and not look down on yourself anymore; an excellent, admirable first step, by asking those questions. I’d encourage you to not put yourself down while doing so. Second, don’t apologize for taking people’s time. You asked a great question, no need for apologies. Be confident in your quest for knowledge. If you ever receive hostility for asking a questio…
/r/MGTOW205/06/20 08:34 PM
6

This made my morning. You’re doing the most important work.
/r/MGTOW05/06/20 04:49 PM
3

Glad to hear it. You’ll do great
/r/MGTOW05/06/20 04:46 PM
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Good dude, harness that anger. Some might tell you to try to suppress it; don’t. Don’t do something stupid with it either. Don’t hurt a woman or anything like that, you know how that will pan out. That’s pointless and stupid. Instead, do the opposite and go the exact opposite way; get the hell away from them. Go your own way. And harness that anger. Whatever your thing is, fucking put your energy madly into it. Boxing, drawing, mathematics, coding, whatever the fuck it is, go GET IT. Get what’s …
/r/MGTOW05/06/20 05:25 AM
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Was that your advice to your son too? Keep up the hustle dad, great work.
/r/MGTOW05/06/20 05:15 AM
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Appreciate the insight. It’s incredibly sad to hear, I’ve known a few of these women too, I’ve never gotten close but just observed from the outside. The damage they do to themselves and the world around them is frankly shocking. I wish this info was out there more, I see many good men get swallowed up by the pit. Best to give a very wide berth, as in an entire lifestyle away from any of these people. Once I’m over the shock I find at pretty fascinating though. I think in a we we all do. In a ra…
/r/MGTOW05/06/20 05:12 AM
1

guess you can’t see my typing because of minimum account age not met......
/r/MGTOW205/06/20 02:38 AM
1

What’s up all
/r/MGTOW205/06/20 02:37 AM
1

Cool, didn’t know this was a thing
/r/MGTOW205/06/20 02:37 AM
1

Thanks
/r/MGTOW05/06/20 02:33 AM
2

Any tips on where I could find some info to eat this way, but still bulk? I’m very scrawny and need a ton of calories to maintain any semblance of size. I eat very clean but I have a hard time doing it because my choices are so limited, and because of the amount of calories I need I get tired of meals very easily. Let me know if you can think of anything high in calories, low in mass. Really appreciate this post, thanks for taking the time to help out the community. Keep killing it dude.
/r/MGTOW05/06/20 02:15 AM
1

Letters to a Young Contrarian by Christopher Hitchens. Actually anything by Christopher Hitchens.
/r/MGTOW05/06/20 01:58 AM
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Excellent work man, these are my favorite type of posts. Well deserved. Keep pushing.
/r/MGTOW205/06/20 01:38 AM
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Really? Hm curious to see why you think that. To me this feels like progress from the original sub. Less red-pill rage, more introspection.
/r/MGTOW204/06/20 11:47 PM
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https://youtu.be/hZ7IAOGaDmE Best of luck
/r/MGTOW04/06/20 04:13 PM
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Excellent work man, keep pushing
/r/MGTOW04/06/20 05:12 AM
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I highly recommend Quasimandias’s collection on YouTube. He nails it in his first couple videos. There are many aspects to the philosophy, but I agree with him that the main feature is the journey of maximizing an individuals autonomy. Nothing I’ve ever done has empowered me more than consistently building autonomy.
/r/MGTOW04/06/20 03:43 AM
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How interested in the future of prosthetics are you? Can prosthetic design become your purpose in life, something you’d do even if you weren’t paid?
/r/MGTOW03/06/20 06:49 PM
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ha I’m at my computer a lot, I’m sure that skews it
/r/MGTOW03/06/20 05:10 AM
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I started using it a few months ago. It’s already paid me over 50$, which I’ve converted to BTC. Works just as good as chrome in all other aspects. I’m a fan.
/r/MGTOW03/06/20 01:34 AM
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Excellent work man, I fuckin love reading posts like this. Well deserved
/r/MGTOW02/06/20 11:03 PM
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Very nice, thanks for the precision.
/r/MGTOW02/06/20 10:58 PM
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It’s to be expected; everyone is drawn to strength. It doesn’t mean they’ll have a healthy relationship with it, but they’ll be drawn to it. And they’ll be drawn to anyone exhibiting strength, and if they get their way (their subconscious way), they’ll destroy that strength, they’ll push it down into the depths of weakness. You’re witnessing it in real time on Instagram, which is lucky for you and a great observation. Bring that observation to a macro view of civilization, and you’ll see why bei…
/r/MGTOW02/06/20 10:53 PM
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Glad it helped. Keep pushing dude
/r/MGTOW02/06/20 10:39 PM
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You’ve got your answer. Bounce. Force yourself to find a way to survive. And then thrive.
/r/MGTOW02/06/20 10:38 PM
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Excellent attitude dude, keep pushing
/r/MGTOW02/06/20 09:57 PM
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It’s really more like 4%. It’s not elders, it’s mostly not women, it’s not African immigrants.
/r/MGTOW02/06/20 07:35 PM
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I find the grey-man lifestyle extremely rewarding, challenging and rich in experience, but from the outside looking in, I can see why so many accuse me of ‘working myself to death’, ‘needing a break’ and recommending that I should ‘not take life too seriously’. And after you’ve heard all of that thousands of times in life, yeah, this lifestyle can sometimes feel very strange. I question my life choices frequently, partly because of the constant social pressure. I question if working 14 hours a d…
/r/MGTOW02/06/20 07:22 PM
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Highly recommend looking into the US Dollar Milkshake Theory. You can hear about it on Nuggets News YouTube channel, or on Real Vision Finance. Basically, the US dollar sucks (it’s fiat currency, duh). But so do all other fiat currencies, and people would rather have dollars than anything else. So dollars will flow all around the world, losing value, but sucking everything else down with it. Dollars will be worth something for quite some time. But I recommend also investing in the alternate mone…
/r/MGTOW02/06/20 05:27 PM
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I’m in a similar boat. I don’t have any hatred to the opposite gender, just understanding. My 02 cents and best advice is make sure that you are strong, principled person first, and you will see that this is the kind of person you will attract into your life, including women who are also strong and principled. The hidden benefit is, because they too are on that level, they’ll respect your wish to not cohabitate or anything else, and you can explore the relationship, in whatever form it takes, in…
/r/MGTOW02/06/20 12:52 AM
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Thanks for sharing. I can attest. I’ve had many African and African-American friends, as well as my ex being from Uganda, and being a part of her family, I have to tell you what an absolutely stark difference in mentality and culture between black Americans and African-Americans there are. African-Americans (immigrants from Africa or first generation African-Americans) vary incredibly from black Americans. I have good friends from Kenya, Liberia and Uganda who would all attest to this too. They …
/r/MGTOW01/06/20 11:04 PM
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Once you’ve been with a few 10/10 young women you realize that there is much more to life.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/06/20 10:28 PM
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These are my favorite types of posts, acknowledgment of accomplishment. Keep killing it dude.
/r/MGTOW01/06/20 10:20 PM
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I see no refutation of these ‘facts’, only as hominem. Cmon guys. Man up.
/r/MGTOW01/06/20 05:50 AM
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I didn’t upvote because I’m giving a thumbs-up to anyone’s low subjective well-being, but because this was a great write up with sources. Fascinating that women’s ‘liberation’ ended up being men’s Liberation. Go your own way, be happy that we live in a time when so many of us can pursue excellence. It’s unprecedented in history.
/r/MGTOW30/05/20 04:52 AM
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Anytime. Feel free to hit me up when you hit your next milestone.
/r/MGTOW30/05/20 04:45 AM
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Go after that, sounds like you’re onto something. Keep pushing
/r/MGTOW29/05/20 06:05 PM
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What are you not doing now that you could be doing that would help you get there faster?
/r/MGTOW29/05/20 09:41 AM
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Haha nice dude, I really appreciate the info, thank you! Keep killin it, being a psycho is mad beneficial in this world
/r/MGTOW28/05/20 11:42 PM
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Can I ask if this was in the US? A major reason I haven’t had one is that I’ve heard that it can take you out of work for weeks. What you just described sounds ideal. Might not matter tho cuz I could care less about hookups, too busy.
/r/MGTOW28/05/20 10:35 PM
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Get it, that sounds dope.
/r/MGTOW28/05/20 10:31 PM
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Retire now. Focus on autonomy, not on money. My 02 cents. Best of luck.
/r/MGTOW28/05/20 10:30 PM
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Excellent man, keep pushing.
/r/MGTOW28/05/20 10:29 PM
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Always hated the concept of a job, focused on a career- a life- instead. I worked my way thru a gig economy since early high school, only taking contracts that were either interesting, well paying, or leveled up my skill set. I starved plenty of times early on, but still would never take a job if it didn’t contribute to my big picture. I lived very very minimally and never let anyone convince me to live otherwise. I’m relentless, and haven’t taken a day off in close to a decade, and am extremely…
/r/MGTOW28/05/20 10:18 PM
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Most of the times in my previous relationships were great, my last ex is an incredible person. I’ll always have those memories, so I actually reflect often, and fondly. If you have something similar to my experience, nostalgia can be great. If you are the majority of men and come from terrible situations with the opposite sex, I’d recommend doing a deep dive as to why you feel ‘nostalgic’. Spot the lie, shatter it, internalize it, then move on. Going my own way was much more important than my re…
/r/MGTOW28/05/20 07:03 PM
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Well, he is a work in progress, and I bet if you asked OP he would be able to point out areas that he mentioned above that he could improve on, maybe even including some that you highlighted. Being that this is a sub for personal development and improvement, I decided to focus on the areas that I believe he got correct instead, the primary one being that he has at least some strong principals, and kept them strong while making life decisions. Now, I’d invite you to do the same; focus on the area…
/r/MGTOW27/05/20 06:29 PM
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Strong principals, mad respect.
/r/MGTOW27/05/20 07:06 AM
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I enjoyed the irony of buying crypto with it
/r/MGTOW26/05/20 04:18 AM
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I’ve found the same. Thanks for the reply, best of luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 07:44 PM
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Haha yeah I’ve heard that a few times in my life.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 05:22 AM
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I’ve actually had multiple-month spanning conversations with a few women about these types of ideas. They’re very very very rare but I know a few that I think do understand, do varying degrees of depth. It will always be an exterior understanding because it lacks specific experiences, but it’s still a type of understanding. My lifestyle also self selects for these types of individuals, so for however rare they are to me, I’d expect them to be many times rarer for most people. But I do think that…
/r/MGTOW23/05/20 04:29 AM
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Much easier to sit back and take a dispassionate view of that kind of thing. In fact, it basically doubles as an ad campaign for mgtow.
/r/MGTOW23/05/20 04:21 AM
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Thanks for your writing. Looking forward to the next.
/r/MGTOW223/05/20 04:18 AM
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Appreciate the detail, I definitely relate. Never had issues, but there’s just so many interesting things in life, sounds like you’ve stumbled upon this discovery too. Keep writing, peace.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 01:56 AM
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This is really interesting, thanks for sharing. If you don’t mind, can I ask if you view men and women basically the same?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 12:28 AM
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What’s up dang, enjoy your content on the main sub. I think we’re in the same boat. Would be interested to hear more details about your voluntary situation. I wrote in detail about my experience on this thread and was called a lizard person haha. Curious your experience.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/05/20 12:16 AM
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As soon as someone violates your principals. 1 strike rule. My advice is to sure up your principals, make them steel.
/r/MGTOW22/05/20 11:42 PM
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Brilliant reply, learned a lot. Keep writing
/r/MGTOW22/05/20 06:33 PM
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That’s in the next post
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 06:05 PM
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hope you’re getting laid
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 06:01 PM
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good luck, hopefully someone will fuck you brilliantly one day too
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 05:55 PM
2

and how’s your semen retention superpower coming along
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 05:53 PM
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Definitely could see that being the case in some of the situations I’ve been in, I think you’re right. Also I’m not so sure we’re ‘taught’ that men fuck anything, I think it’s because men actually do try to fuck anything. Just look at the comments to my post, half think I’m a lizard person, just for not being that interested in sex all the time. I get that reaction a lot from men; they can’t believe it. And the irony is, they’re right: its me that’s the weird one. Most men are completely captive…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 05:50 PM
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Never heard that term before, but interesting to flip the concept from the (usually) misused term incel. I’m interested to hear from volcels too. I might be able to be considered voluntarily celibate. I’ve had a ton of really incredible sex in my life with women I’ve loved, and that’s great, but it’s one amongst many meaningful things to engage in, in life. I’ve had many periods in my life where I was so focused and interested in other things, I didn’t make time for sex at all; I had many other …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/05/20 09:59 AM
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Trust me, my first instinct is to mock too. I spent many years ridiculing and mocking this sort of dude. Try to get over that instinct and have some understanding, and maybe a bit of empathy; much more peaceful life. Best of luck.
/r/MGTOW22/05/20 06:01 AM
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I think that is pretty typical, I’ve heard that from managers too about hiring married men. I’m in an interesting place because I’m in the tech startup world, and whenever I’m hiring I prefer single, young guys. They have the passion and purpose and can put in the crazy hours necessary. I’m also not looking for long term per say, but more contract work. Regardless understanding of this stuff is extremely useful in hiring. Still curious what industries benefit from more single men.
/r/MGTOW22/05/20 05:58 AM
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Interested to hear what industries you’re talking about
/r/MGTOW21/05/20 11:17 PM
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A lot of great comments on this post, glad to see it. I can share my 02 cents, hopefully it helps. I’m in a similar situation to you; we are some of the rare men going their own way that are not coming out of a horrific relationship. We are the few that haven’t been burned. Cherish that, and at least know that you are one of the few that got a real, purposeful ending to that chapter in your life. Best to leave it that way, and not tarnish your memories or your perception of her, because remember…
/r/MGTOW20/05/20 08:10 PM
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‘If the solution has never been to look at yourself, how is it that you expect to find it anywhere else?’ -Immortal Technique
/r/MGTOW20/05/20 06:52 PM
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Good on you for holding yourself principals in place. I know it’s hard to do, but having a 1 strike rule is a powerful standard in life.
/r/MGTOW19/05/20 08:52 PM
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You are what you think.
/r/MGTOW18/05/20 07:03 AM
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Liberty and freedom. And your curiosity is appreciated instead of the usual contempt. Keep learning.
/r/MGTOW18/05/20 05:03 AM
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You’re not wasting time, don’t worry, that’s the purpose of a forum. If you’re worried you’re not ‘good enough’, your probably right. But is that your own standard, or other people’s? Either way, it’s worth paying attention to. Once you figure out where you’re getting that feeling from, do what you have to do to make yourself ‘good enough’. Pro tip: when you’re ‘good enough’ by your own standards, you’ll stop caring about other people’s standards, and more than likely you’ll also start attractin…
/r/MGTOW18/05/20 03:24 AM
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Would post more but I’m strapped for time today. My 02 cents: The best plan is to be well diversified across 3 major areas. Diversity of location. Be able to go in and out of the ‘system’ seamlessly. Be able to go in and out of your job, country, city, culture, industry, family, etc, and try to be equally diverse in each of these (I.e. being able to work in multiple different industries, or live in multiple different countries.) Go in to the system to extract resources, go out to invest. Make su…
/r/MGTOW17/05/20 10:25 PM
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I’m planning on writing posts about it in the future. I’ll just say for now that the path of partnership, a long-term relationship, with a good woman can be a great life. But I decided that the path alone was even greater. Every man must choose.
/r/MGTOW17/05/20 07:34 PM
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Looking forward to it
/r/MGTOW17/05/20 07:31 PM
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Thanks for the update, congrats and well earned. Would love to hear your more detail on a variety of the topics you touched on, including your self reflection. Keep writing, keep doing your thing.
/r/MGTOW17/05/20 09:48 AM
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Every choice in life means forgoing a thousand other choices. If I chose those relationships, I wouldn’t be able to be where I am now. I’m here now because I didn’t choose those relationships.
/r/MGTOW17/05/20 09:38 AM
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Could be. Couples that I noticed acted a bit cold to us when they saw our affection ranged from people married 25+ years, to new couples, so not sure about the polyamorous/monotonous sampling. Definitely times have changed. People have a much higher threshold now than back then. My girlfriend and I were ‘scolded’ by my grandma for pda that we didn’t even think was inappropriate in the slightest, ha. As for mental health benefits of strong intimacy, the effects that kind of love has is great phys…
/r/MGTOW17/05/20 09:31 AM
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Great question. Without using the acronym, or any other identifying language, I’ve described it to others as creating as much liberty in life as possible. This can be done in a wide variety of ways; to name a few: -choosing which government to live under (if any) -not having a boss or working for someone else, or working a job only for money -not having any relationship that negatively impacts your freedom, having the choice to only choose positive relationships that respect your individuality -…
/r/MGTOW217/05/20 12:45 AM
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This is interesting, it’s almost the opposite to my anecdotal experience. I’m in California USA, and with my last LTR we always remarked at how little public intimacy we observed (I.e. holding hands, hands on small of back, kiss+hug when meeting up, etc). It always seemed to me that the women I observed were very cold, and the men were very timid. My girlfriend and I would get comments from other couples about how we looked like we had just started dating, or that we were the most ‘touchy’ coupl…
/r/MGTOW16/05/20 08:24 PM
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Would be interested to hear more about this. I’ve been red pilled since I was very young and dropped them everywhere I went... caused trouble and put me in danger many times. Believe it or not it was the advice of a girlfriend that helped me realize my being so generous with my knowledge was not, in fact doing me any favors. I was never trying to ‘red pill’ anyone, I was only ever just exploring subjects, but people have a very hard time going there. Now I’m pretty much anonymous mode, much bett…
/r/MGTOW16/05/20 08:57 AM
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Get it dude. Sounds like the life.
/r/MGTOW15/05/20 06:30 PM
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This is an excellent addition, thanks for the comment. I’m an atheist myself and it took me a while to get to this point of view, but I found these texts astoundingly insightful in a way that’s becoming lost as a casualty of scientific understanding and modernization.
/r/MGTOW14/05/20 09:58 PM
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Super Forecasting: the Art and Science of a prediction. Highly recommend.
/r/MGTOW14/05/20 06:41 PM
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Understandable why no one has commented yet. An Interesting and tough subject; fitting and nerve wracking for my first post ever. This is also my first real day living the philosophy (but that story is for another post), so thank you to all the great minds that have helped advance these areas knowledge. Ok- Holy Texts and Women. I’d count the holy texts among the works that have contributed to mankind’s understanding of human behavior, and of course women’s behavior too. Looking at religion’s ad…
/r/MGTOW14/05/20 09:45 AM
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