General Monk Mode Thread

notagoosealt · 2017-11-28T06:10:40+00:00

i quit pursuing relationships years ago. did the pump and dump thing for a while, but got over it pretty quick. i focused mostly on career development at first but i'm in a good place at the moment so i've shifted my focus to hobbies.

honestly, i can't remember the last time i even thought about re-entering the breeding pool. i see so much in the world as well as in my personal life that constantly validates my choices. i have a brother who's married and has kids. every time i visit him i take him out alone for a couple beers and he always tells me, "never get married, never have kids." it's kind of sad to watch him struggle to maintain some level of control in his life under his heartless, domineering wife. sometimes i feel guilty about the carefree life i lead while so many men close to me suffer, but then again, we're all adults and we've all made our choices.

BPWhiteKnightMangina · 2017-11-28T05:33:30+00:00

I don’t mess around with women anymore, no exceptions. If you do pump and dump you run the risk of stalkers, accidental pregnancy, STDs, loss of financial well being and being accused of false rape.

If you go with serious relationships you will risk all of the above and also be miserable on a daily basis.

This is why I am “monk mode”

Saturns_Son · 2017-11-28T05:34:49+00:00

I started nofap about 65 days ago. So far its going really good. I also quit weed and alcohol along with vaping nicotine. I don't engage with women outside of the occasional errand or during work. I am in the process of moving out of state to start over and put distance between myself and toxic friends and family. Actually the hardest step will be to change my diet and remove processed foods and sugar from my diet as I have a bad sweet tooth. I also hate exercising but now I have so much fucking free time I don't really have an excuse lol. Anyways I recommend monk mode to all men who are interested. The hedonistic lifestyle gets expensive and old hat eventually.

MadPreacher1AD · 2017-11-28T06:14:49+00:00

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davebrain · 2017-11-28T05:12:05+00:00

I think with respect to MGTOW, monk mode just means being celibate, not dating or perusing sex/relationships. But if you have some religious framework that can fuel it, I think it will make it easier than for a materialist who doesn't believe in a soul to try and be celibate. Because if you believe you are only the body, it is hard to resist the lusts of the flesh, because then you literally think they are you or a part of you rather than something foreign, whereas someone who views themself as the soul and the body as a vehicle can view the lusts of the body like a horse rider views the lusts of the horse. Do you stop riding the horse to let it go fuck another horse? Nay (pun intended) but you apply the bridle and make it go where you intend to go. But if you thought you were the horse, then it would turn out a little different. Lol.

I do drop out of society as much as I can, but I have to go to work, and I eat out quite a bit.

I'd describe my religious beliefs now more as my own interpretation of what original Buddhism was. But when I was Christian, there was a time I was interested in the monastic type prayer life like the Daily Office. I tried out the Psalter schedule in the Book of Common Prayer 1662/1928 (http://www.commonprayer.org/offices/psalter.cfm#DAY or http://justus.anglican.org/resources/bcp/1928/Psalms.htm), a book called "The Paraclete Psalter: A Four-Week Cycle for Daily Prayer" which uses the NIV and a messy supposedly "Benedictine" arrangement, and the Psalter arrangement from Quignonez'/Quiñonez's breviary (http://www.gregorianbooks.com/gregorian/www/www.kellerbook.com/Foursch.htm). I found the BCP to work best because it doesn't skip around and just has morning and evening prayer rather than a bunch of different hours. It just keeps the Psalms in their numerical order as found in the book of Psalms but separates them into a 30 day schedule. I always liked the old English of the modified Coverdale translation used in the BCP 1662/1928, but the schedule obviously can work with any translation once you figure out how it works. I think its a good practice for anyone coming from an Abrahamic perspective.

Looking for a Buddhist "equivalent" to the book of Psalms, I'd say something like the Dhammapada, Sutta Nippata, and the Therigatha/Theragatha. In the Sutta Nippata I particularly like the Rhinocerus poem which is basically about leaving society to live a solitary ascetic life; see the 3rd "Chapter" here http://www.sacred-texts.com/bud/sbe10/sbe1033.htm

KHAGGA VISÂNASUTTA.

Having laid aside the rod against all beings, and not hurting any of them, let no one wish for a son, much less for a companion, let him wander alone like a rhinoceros.

In him who has intercourse (with others) affections arise, (and then) the pain which follows affection; considering the misery that originates in affection let one wander alone like a rhinoceros.

etc. etc.

protonexus1 · 2017-11-28T07:28:41+00:00

For me it is living as though I am in a monastery. Focusing on inner development, connection with divine nature, peaceful contemplation. It eventually precluded my regular employment and I moved into the wilds for further solitude. I refrain from lustful activities, images, thoughts; don't fap, watch pron, or have intercourse etc. This has usually been surprisingly easy for me. I have certain genetic advantages contributing to this lifestyle.

I have dedicated a lot of time and effort to being able to consciously modulate my hormone balances, specifically testosterone. Through diet and willful expenditure I can raise and lower T to an appropriate level for my environment. I use my time in monk mode to learn how to work with and bend Nature with my will in a way that is pleasing for all involved. I acknowledge the power of the modern technology and am far more interested in biological technology with direct conscious integration. Or, I talk to plants.

I study many books, scriptures of all religions and various philosophies. What initiated hardcore monk mode for me 10 years ago was reading books by Samael Aun Weor, a gnostic writer.

Monk life is great if you are into it, it's a huge relief for someone who wants/needs quiet solitude and a stable environment.

LuxuriousComa · 2017-11-28T06:03:42+00:00

I originally attempted hardcore withdraw from life MM but it’s not possible today. No dating. No porn. No fap. Too exhausting.

Now I simply live alone. No friends. No real family. No interest in socializing. Don’t want to meet people. Living purely for myself. I read and expand my mind. I deal with my illness the best I can. And it’s quiet and peaceful. My main goal is to train my mind to get strong again and learn from mistakes. Work on me. No distractions. I have zero interest in sex. Then again I’m older and have had a lot of sex in my life and I can’t think of anything more repulsive right now.

A turning inward, is a good description.

Avenged7fo · 2017-11-28T06:57:51+00:00

I've said this countless times. Monk mode may be perceived as "boring" to most, but it's the best insurance. Sure, pump and dump (w/c is the exact opposite of monk mode) has its fun but remember all it takes is one screech of RAAAAAAPE from the wrong woman, and its game over.

I-am-the-lul · 2017-11-28T08:32:01+00:00

I am still a virgin even after 40+ years and I have no interest in changing that status, my relations with women are limited to polite friendliness needed when dealing with co-workers and shop-assistants and on rare occasions, I will engage in small-talk with my female neighbors but I have no close female friends.

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DangZagnut · 2017-11-28T04:52:42+00:00

I would compare MGTOWs who are monk similar to volcels, in which in both cases one is voluntarily removing oneself from the relationship landscape.

As to what subtleties are beyond that, I'm not sure. Like you said, some consider monk mode of MGTOW to also involve withdrawal from society, which is a personal choice of course. I don't recall volcels withdrawing from society, although I'm sure some do.

I wouldn't necessarily call myself a "monk" as I still engage in dating a couple times a year, but outside of those particular companionship visits, I pretty much stick to myself and focus on my own interests. I travel often, so in a sense I don't maintain close friendships and pretty much solo everything everywhere.

I've found that, without all the standard societal or relationship distractions, I can be remarkably productive when I feel the urge.

MadPreacher1AD · 2017-11-28T04:55:39+00:00

Anyway, what is monk mode to you?

Monk mode to me is the complete dropping out of society and disengaging from women all together.

How has monk life been?

It's been pretty good. It's liberating to not care about society in general and people overall.

What is your vision of what an "ultimate monk mode" would be? (Hard modes? Asceticism, etc.? Challenges?)

Being a Nazarite Christian and separating yourself from the world to serve God.

What else related to monk do you want to discuss?

Numbers chapter 6 describes what a Nazarite is and the difficulties it is since it is now a lifetime vow. Once you take the vow you have to be committed for the rest of your life as you gave your word to God. It's hard because you can't shave your beard or cut your hair or eat anything related to grapes or have alcohol etc...

NordHamsteri · 2017-11-28T11:02:40+00:00

Playstation 4.

strangerthing7 · 2017-11-28T12:30:44+00:00

I am a Kung Fap Monk, hehe. I think it's pretty self explanatory.

I have been in relationships before, but what I've found about myself is that the only thing I wanted out of these relationships is sex, everything else was a tiresome, boring task towards the goal. I was never an emotional person, never got attached, if I was dumped I was shruggin and just kept on truckin. Never cried, never begged.

The way I saw women was pretty much like this: Just like every man on planet earth I have been wronged by a woman. My experience was terrible and I wouldn't want to go into it again, this never made me a woman-hater, but my eyes were open ever since, I found women as untrustworthy, boring, useless melodrama machines that I disliked having in my life for longer periods of time.

In my early teens all through my late 20s I was simping for sex, just to feel normal I guess, I was a blue pill but after a while I slowed down, took longer periods of time between relationships...these periods of time got wider and longer in between until I found myself happy just being on my own.

The biggest shock of all was realizing I had alot more money all of a sudden, that was the first thing I noticed, that I am saving alot more money. I was generally calmer, focused on my short term goals, I had more time for my own interests.

So if you can live with just fapping when you get the urge, and avoid women. I would suggest going Kung Fap Monk :P

2017-11-28T13:26:22+00:00

I see myself as a Zen monk. And it goes really well with mgtow. So for me it's not being in relationships with women in any way shape or form. Lots of meditation and introspection.

As for the question of nofap, it's bullshit broscience. It is absolutely necessary to silence the growling of the lizard brain.

RadicalAsceticMonk · 2017-11-28T15:43:02+00:00

I'm monk/wizard multiclass, have absolutely no regrets. Compared to my peers, my life is a breeze. No woman, no worries.

ockhams-razor · 2018-01-12T18:59:36+00:00

"No fear. No distractions. The ability to let that which does not matter truly slide." -- Tyler Durden

In this case, the distractions and the things that do not matter... those are woman's desires and all the associated expectations and manipulations.

It's not about being angry or outraged... it's about letting it go and living our life each day (each moment) on our own terms doing whatever authentically and honestly drives us.

Detachment from the game woman play and relationships engage in.

As for monasteries... You don't need to be budhist to join a zen monastery retreat... If you're interested, try it out... it quite amazing and refreshing. Comfortable silences in between conversations that are intentional. No expectations or passive aggressive manipulation... just being and breathing and working together (mixed-gender).

Title	General Monk Mode Thread
Author	stringedbeams
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Date	November 28, 2017 4:32 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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