Ive been reading mgtow forums for a couple of years now, but unavoidably they get overrun by angry ugly incel teens.

Ive had two wives and dozens of gfs, i have my own bussiness and have two majors and a graduate degree, im 6'2 and did tv when i was a teen so im not a fuggo.

Can anyone point me to a good forum that is indeed "men going their own way" and not "low value incels crying while calling each other legend"?

I mean a place where people actually had experiences with women before shunning them, i dont need a 20 year old telling me i should not go clubbing because pussy is not worth it".

Ive had all the pussy i could have ever wanted in my life ,friend, its not about that....