Is there no hope?

Knxguymgy · 2016-09-27T13:08:45+00:00

your still a virgin?

nice, me too. in this day and age of sluts and whores, and the rise of untreatable STDs and super gonorrhoea, being a virgin is a virtue.

26 virgin myself btw, fuck what others think.

i was going to go to a brothel last week... but a Ps vita was on sale, bought that instead, so much more worth it imho.

MaterialMaverick · 2016-09-27T08:36:41+00:00

I was a 27 year old virgin until I saw an escort last month.

I saw 7 more ladies after that (with experiences ranging from mediocre to fantastic) and it really helped me see that sex wasn't all that great. I'm now focused on my physical strength and my career goals because I find that self-development is much more satisfying that pursuing sex for its own sake.

I feel so overpowered by women, thanks to the feminized educational system and the environment of a vicious mom and sister I grew up in, much less the heartbreak I've encountered with a couple of females.

Rejection from women may have meant something in the past when they were more sane and governed by male authority, but today it means absolutely nothing. Being rejected romantically by women just means that you're either unattractive or unlucky, and there's no fault in either of that because those two facets of life are often out of your control.

KamiMoon · 2016-09-27T03:34:35+00:00

Buy a prostitute. Seriously.

As a 24-year-old virgin with the system stacked against you and the disabilities you have this is your best bet full stop. Don’t give a fuck about what others might think about you. They do not need to know. It is your privilege as a human being to have your needs met if you can come up with the money to pay for it.

Is there no hope? What a bluepill pathetic question as if the only thing that matters is women and vagina.

You know you can just buy a woman right?

uud4tea · 2016-09-27T03:25:18+00:00

I'm in a similar boat. 21 virgin and have a fucked up brain. I feel like the situation will only get worse from here on out unfortunately. I'm planning to just focus on my self and try to find happiness that way. If a decent girl crosses my path I may take the oppurtunity. But I feel like our problems don't stem from women directly. People who have BP II usually grew up with trauma and had fucked up childhoods. Unfortunately I think that will stay for the remainder of your life. I would try to just sorround yourself with chill people and avoid negativity at all costs. don't do therapy and don't take pills. This is my best advice.

lonewolf-chicago · 2016-09-27T03:36:17+00:00

I'm conflicted about his comment, so only consider it among the rest of the comments here. Whichever calls to you is the right one because both comments above are accurate if it right for you.

My recommendation would be to memorize the PUA stuff and become a master at it... then when you get sick of their bullshit and you have mastered yourself along the way, MGTOW may be for you.

I'll catch some slack for this opinion on this Sub but it doesn't sound like your goal is to be by yourself.

If you feel overpowered by women, you must master them by mastering yourself. Only then can you become MGTOW with full power knowing that it is a choice, not a reaction.

Otherwise being MGTOW is only a place to hide. I see this with younger people. MGTOW is for some people (like me) and not for others.

If you fear the mountain, you must climb it. If you fear danger, you must confront it.

Only then can you say you choose to live in peace. When fear is not confronted, the refuge a man finds does not make him more of a man, it perpetuates his cowardice.

mrp_1844 · 2016-09-27T04:39:23+00:00

I recomend all guys go MGTOW until 30. Enjoy your twenties. Build things, rebuild things. At 30 you can bang 20 year olds.

My-Name-Is-No-One · 2016-09-27T15:58:02+00:00

At the end of the day, MGTOW is absolutely about walking away from women and relationships. The only honest transaction a man can have with a woman is prostitution, and anything other than that is playing a rigged game, pandering to women, and remaining on the plantation in some capacity, and all that comes with great risks, the biggest cost being a man's autonomy and freedom, and that's if he can even get away relatively unscathed.

If you've not just taken the red pill, but actually digested and more importantly, understood it, then I don't think you'd be here asking these questions, and I tend to believe a circumstantial MGTOW is not a full MGTOW because he hasn't fully embraced it. He is still waiting, still holding on, likely afraid to let go. It begs many questions that only you can answer, like, what are you even going your own way from, and with that change, what are you turning towards?

JStheHammer · 2016-09-27T03:13:49+00:00

Only you can make that decision. We cant tell you what is best for you.

coqui25 · 2016-09-27T07:36:23+00:00

Its good to talk to them, but keep private details to a minimum. Don't get stabbed in the back.

Zombocom1911 · 2016-09-27T14:45:57+00:00

I came across this quote a few minutes ago: "Women want men to act like women."

They only get wet for the opposite, but they want to destroy men by training to them to act like what you said. Its hypocritical and pathetic.

Vishalp1179 · 2016-09-27T15:30:03+00:00

@KamiMoon, I'm pretty sure I don't need validation from women as I've said: I don't let women stroke my ego. I honestly just want sex. I'd never think that losing one's virginity to an escort would be a valid option as I've been told countless times to "make my first time count."

Vishalp1179 · 2016-09-27T15:31:04+00:00

Yes, very bluepill indeed.

Vishalp1179 · 2016-09-27T16:10:29+00:00

I believe asking these types of questions is crucial for me because I was just introduced to MGTOW about four months ago and I'm only 24. I still have a lot to take into consideration and understand before I can "chew and digest." One must realize that MGTOW is only a part of who he is and not mistake the map for the destination.

Vishalp1179 · 2016-09-27T16:11:22+00:00

Not acccusing of anything btw

Vishalp1179 · 2016-09-27T16:12:37+00:00

Actually I take that back: The "Is there no hope?" wasn't for me but rather all men in regards to women these days. It was pointing towards women.

mgtowBurnerAccount · 2016-09-28T01:22:32+00:00

Women are fine at arm's length, they're not evil like some guys make them out to be. Things that make me happy are freedom, control over my life, some solitude from time to time, and personal achievement. Women aren't allowed anywhere those areas in my life and they had been removed from them many years ago. Beyond that, they're just fine.

Title	Is there no hope?
Author	Vishalp1179
Upvotes	4
Comments	24
Date	September 27, 2016 3:11 AM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/54omfo/is_there_no_hope/
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