Grabbing food after 9 holes w two good friends of mine, both blue pilled ('A'is in 4+year LTR with a wheman, 'S' recently broke up with 7+year LTR wheman and is more receptive/open minded):
Somehow start on topic of feminism. S comments 'ask OP his take feminism lol'. A take the bait and I say something along the lines of '1st wave had value, 2nd wave had a little value, 3rd wave is all self righteous, self interested women claiming equality but really only looking to lift themselves up without regard for men, some to the extreme of 'kill all men'- mind you this is my most PC version of my beliefs, bc the real world would shit on OP's actual mgtow beliefs.
Over the course of the next 30 minutes A comes forward with just about every buzzfeed tactic in the book: wage gap myth, 'so you're saying insert claim i never made?', interupting, changing subject to other political issues, brought up a buzzfeed article at one point.
A is a smart, great guy but his blue virtuosity came out full tilt! I kept calm, did not mention mgtow once just took logic counterpoints to help him understand : if women want complete equality like you claim, how come they arent picketing outside of prisons where men are locked up disproportionately (unequally)? Why no outrage over women being only 5% of dirty and dangerous jobs? Women want the choice and freedom to have birth control and abortions w 0 input or influence from the father but then say its baby daddys fault mom has to take shitty jobs at shitty oay ti balance her work-home life. If women do get paid less for the exact same job then why dont companies save millions in labor costs and hire only women and look like great people for it? Why arent women protesting sharia law in the middle east where there actually IS inequality and oppresion? Asia argento and womens manipulative nature...
S chimed in a few times but was a thousand times more openminded and throughout would say 'well ok thats a good point i didnt consider', A dug heels in deeper :/
In summary i said to A : true 50-50 equality will NEVER happen anywhere in our society, it is futile bc of. Mens and womens biological differences and personal choices. One group of people (women) claiming they want equality while only acting for womens interests and petitioning the government to pass laws to support their self interests is the opposite of what they claim they are doing and fighting for.
Only regret : not using the tactic where we argue for the others side, if you cant make a good argument AGAINST your belief then you have no foundation to make any argument bc you are biased and/or uninformed.
Tl;dr : lively debate w one deep blue piller, countered each misinformed, emotional argument supporting modern feminism, failed to reconcile differences, did NOT mention mgtow.
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