Nofap is a terrible idea

Phantom_Spark · 2018-04-18T18:52:37+00:00

Hells yea. Fap away. This is why men need to be more aware of toys/dolls.

Ohboohoolittlegirl · 2018-04-18T18:53:39+00:00

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Three-Legged-Fox · 2018-04-18T21:56:31+00:00

I tried No Fap once. Longest, hardest five hours of my life.

toolazytoregisterlol · 2018-04-18T18:36:49+00:00

My advice is to be gentle with it, and don’t do it every day for sure. I’d say once a week maximum. You still need some good testosterone to get things done and stay in shape. Also avoid porn.

NietzscheExplosion · 2018-04-18T21:08:21+00:00

Original MGTOW (founder really in civilization anyway)... Diogenes was charged with masterbaiting in the marketplace.

His defence:

"If only I could relieve hunger by scratching my belly"

Hardwaregrinder22 · 2018-04-18T18:39:03+00:00

Do what works for you. It's what mgtow is about, optimizing your life for you, on your terms. The whole "nofap"-thing is retarded.

2018-04-18T21:34:25+00:00

NoFap is a trad-con psyop.

2018-04-18T21:51:56+00:00

Those are rookie numbers, you gotta get those up!

4-5 times a week, keeps the little head happy and relieves the big head to focus on work.

Praeda18 · 2018-04-18T23:34:39+00:00

The purpose of NoFap is to teach men, who would otherwise be unable, to control their urges, harness that raw masculine energy and put it towards more productive uses, such as the betterment of self.

By all means have a tug, but don’t do it on the reg as you will end up re-conditioning your brain for instant gratification. Sex is something that comes easy to high-status men, and your brain can’t differentiate between what is fiction and what is not, hence why porn can be extremely dangerous for men of all ages.

2018Now2018New · 2018-04-19T00:47:53+00:00

Absolutely a waste of time. You only live once, why would you not do the things you enjoy?

MGTOWlifestyle · 2018-04-19T01:45:11+00:00

I also agree that nofap isn't good, and this is biological, because our testosterone has a cycle, roughly 1 week. If after 1 week you don't have sex or masturbate (to put it in a simpler way), it will decline and stabilize in a steady-state level in the middle. Given that, I personally like to masturbate once or at most twice a week.

On the other hand, you shouldn't masturbate (or have sex) too frequently, either. It can definitely ruin your dopamine pathways on your brain's reward center, just like any drug that gives intense, short-lived pleasure.

Find your balance that keeps you away from addiction but relaxed from the sex urge when it's too much. Like you said, reducing the sex urge at strategic moments will keep your head clearer from emotions that could take you to damnation (a.k.a. getting involved with women).

Exopilot · 2018-04-19T05:12:36+00:00

I think that depends. It's a very revealing exercise, as it shows the degree to which sexual energy/desire can affect our thoughts and influence our actions, even in subtle ways entirely unnoticeable to us. The reason I do it is to develop the mental strength to make the influence of those forces irrelevant; in doing so, I train myself to the point where no woman can influence me in any way (let's be honest, the only influence women have over us is becuase we desire to inseminate them, and we fear the state's allegience to them). Others do it for religious reasons. Again, for myself, that is a part of the equation.

I understand why many oppose it, however. The NoFap community is a cesspool of tradcons who are doing it entirely because they think it will grant them superpowers and magically raise their SMV so they can be more desirable slaves to the golden vagina. And the initial start of NoFap inevitably leads to sexual desire powerful enough to make 5's look like 7's. Not exactly a safe place to be.

That said, the underlying reasons why one does it are important. I argue if it is being done for the reason of stopping an addiction that is damaging your life (e.g. the Coolidge Effect, addictive behavior that interferes with everyday tasks, antisociality, etc.), or developing self-control over an impulse that has a propensity to destroy your life at the hands of female influence, then good on you. If it is for the purpose of 'pulling more' or gaining nonsensical superpowers just to become a better pussy-slave, then it is akin to fasting to lose weight in hopes of getting some girl rather than establishing a healthy lifestyle for personal well-being.

If masturbating is your 'secret weapon', so be it, but I don't see what's to criticize about the MGTOW monks who are doing it for a perfeclty good reason.

Pk_s_to_the_yizzle · 2018-04-19T07:24:21+00:00

What NOFAPPERS ARE TRYING TO DO IS "PRESET"

Preset your mind.

DO YOU REMEMBER YOUR LIFE BEFORE PUBERTY?

For me it was Baseball, Video Games, Jokes, stuff, cool movies and LIFE.

LIFE.

I didn't KNOW what I was missing, SO I COULDN'T WANT IT. Guys over there chasing girls - WHO CARES? These bees are cool and Voltron is coming on at 3.

LIFE. WAS AWESOME AS IT WAS.

Swimming. Running. Voltron. D&D, Starwars, Friends and Family.

NOT...."I Beats Mah meet to release the Hurt, so THEY dont get MAH YOGURT!"

See the difference?

Once is trying to LIVE free of the Influence, BUT THIS TIME AS AN ADULT, LIKE YOU ONCE DID WHEN YOU WERE A CHILD - AND SEE THE WORLD AS STILL INCREDIBLE AND INTERESTING.

THE OTHER IS - "I BEETS MAH MEAT SO I DON'T TURNS TO DA QUEEF!" - Stay Queef Free Bro!

Dat Yogurt Lady Can't Rob ME for MY Money & Pro-Biotics - I just squooze them out yesterday!

Option 1 (nofap) - Back to when just breathing was fucking awesome. The world is unlimited! Were you miserable as a kid BEFORE PUBERTY? Not without adult interference! NOW YOU ARE THE ADULT AND CAN AVOID THE INTERFERENCE!

Option 2 - Smoking that Mescaline so the Heroin Monster won't tempt you no more. The world may even be unlimited. As long as you keep some Mescaline handy. Can you be miserable on Mescaline? Yes. But much less so than Heroin.

Choices.

toolazytoregisterlol · 2018-04-19T14:11:53+00:00

Although I am in complete agreeance with you OP, there is something to be said about the possibility of sexual transmutation. Where one is able to essentially transfer their sexual urges/energies into other useful areas of life.

Something to consider, not sure if it works or of it's potential, I stick with the fap and relax method.

BitchesBHating · 2018-04-19T20:31:50+00:00

I agree- I’m not gonna stop jacking anymore than I Will quit sleeping. But it’s not an addiction for me I just do it when I feel like it.

Pk_s_to_the_yizzle · 2018-04-19T23:36:18+00:00

"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"

-can't say don't look at porn - people rage.

toolazytoregisterlol · 2018-04-18T19:10:02+00:00

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Jhodl · 2018-04-19T07:35:11+00:00

Depends on the reason you are doing it. If it's to get bitches that dumb. But don't underestimate the power you can gain through asceticism. No fap is a great trainer of self discipline.

Title	Nofap is a terrible idea
Author	toolazytoregisterlol
Upvotes	38
Comments	30
Date	April 18, 2018 2:34 PM UTC (8 years ago)
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