Please help.

SwixSwax · 2018-07-15T01:45:41+00:00

I'm in the same boat as you as far as being unable to resist the craving for a real LTR. I don't think it ever really goes away: people wish to understand and to be understood by others, and we all seek ourselves through relationships. That being said, it's important to remember that 99% of women are completely mercenary and unfeeling towards 90% of men. They will never love you because they are basically engineered not to. The only men they feel love for are the ones at the top of society, and that love is mostly based on boosting their own social value.

You won't have that passionate relationship because it simply doesn't exist for men like you and me. The most we'll get is a facsimile concocted by some golddigger trying to latch on to our bank accounts before they hit the wall.Just try to fill the void with hobbies and interests.

slacktivist0 · 2018-07-15T02:05:03+00:00

Stop lying to yourself about women. They don't give a fuck about your hobbies. They know very little. They resent you every time you lift something they can't.

They're overgrown children. Industrial strength baby makers in an era of optional babies.

You're lusting over a fantasy constructed to sell books and movies. Don't believe me, test it. Try having a fulfilling conversation with a woman about anything you are interested in. 3 questions in she's annoyed, changing the subject, huffing and puffing.

The juice is not worth the squeeze.

guitarguy1749 · 2018-07-15T02:14:55+00:00

It doesn't last dude. fuck a hot girl and you might feel satisfied for what a few days, a week, maybe a month? hell fuck 100 hot girls and you're still not going to feel satisfied. so why stress out about not having it or get down on yourself? beyond the sex women will offer only more hassle to your life and bullshit.

re_all · 2018-07-15T02:07:24+00:00

It’s the simplest thing, and yet it’s the hardest too.

You’re 23? Yep, just wait till those digits are reversed. There’s too much biological wiring to undo, I’m afraid.

Don’t be too hard on yourself that women will only love what you can provide.

Marrying for love is a really bad move.

Hernes21 · 2018-07-15T02:28:51+00:00

You are depressed because at your age you testosterone - which is like a drug that nature imbued in you to compel you to breed and pair bond - is raging. and you are simultaneously battling a lifetime of cuck brainwashing. Statistically, odds are you probably came from a single mother household without a strong experienced father to explain things to you, and help you get through this. So it's hard right now, but trust me, with age it gets much easier and better, so hang on.

Icsparks · 2018-07-15T02:54:30+00:00

Young man, it’s time to grow some hair on your balls and train yours of to be a player. Mgtow is fine but being a player will also get you pussy. So if you don’t want pussy go monk and that’s it, but if you wanna have sex, you must play. Don’t fall in love and don’t get married. Just go out the and womanize. You don’t have to be handsome or fit, just sharp.

honda_vfr · 2018-07-15T03:56:05+00:00

This truth has made me angry, sad, and depressed for the last year. I don't even think hiring a gorgeous escort would help me feel any better.

Welcome to the club.

Will I eventually get over this?

It takes a while.

Consider vacations in Asia. But, don't get any ideas about getting married.

hombreliberado · 2018-07-15T04:56:08+00:00

Your biology is wired for reproduction, so no surprise there. I would say just resist and GYOW, but if you’re an incel I don’t think that advice will feel helpful.

Since you already seem to understand the risks surrounding all women, I can give you some good news. As a man, whether you are 3’ tall, 8’ tall, or anything in between, attraction is something you can learn.

thotless_rat_bastard · 2018-07-15T05:08:47+00:00

Read the book, Think and Grow Rich several times, at least enough to learn that you can transmute this energy into something useful that helps you! It's an energy source that is valuable.

maggot_brain79 · 2018-07-15T05:24:13+00:00

Here's some advice I wrote up for just this situation, for guys like me that were or are trapped in that loneliness and despair. Hopefully it'll help you at least a little.

In these moments of difficulty, find strength in any way that you can. Cultivate inner strength. Jump out of your comfort zone. Don't get stuck in a rut and don't be placated easily. I'm not going to lie to you, it will not be easy. Many times, it'll be exceedingly hard. Tough. It may even be the hardest thing you've ever done. But it's necessary. With enough personal growth, you will cultivate inner strength. With inner strength, you'll gain confidence, self-love and self-respect. These are all building blocks to becoming content with the state of your life. Maybe your life isn't perfect but you're working toward making it better. That's where I'm at. Find that fire within you any way that you can. Hit the gym if you like. Embrace new hobbies or rediscover new ones. Stay busy. Always be doin' something. If you can't do a lot, do a little. Try to always have something on the horizon or some iron in the fire, some prospect that gives you hope. Go for a long road trip. Embrace religion if that's your thing, or philosophy and classical wisdom if it isn't, or do all three if you like. Study, expand your knowledge. Broaden your horizons in every way. Try to get out there socially a little bit more. I don't mean go out and try to be Mr. Popular. Link up with some old friends or acquaintances, meet some new people. I've never met a single person on this planet that I couldn't learn something from. Even if they're dumb as a box of rocks and I'm learning only from their failures, I'm still learning. I know it might be hard but just try to get out there a bit. A circle of friends can really change your life. Or if you don't feel up to that, contact some family you haven't spoken to in a while. But never hesitate to burn bridges if you're being treated like shit. Walk away with your head held high. Forget about rejection. Forget about romance. Let that shit fuel you. All of that rejection, all the times you've been ignored, interrupted, outcasted or ostracized. Use it as fuel. Make your motivation to prove all of those fuckin' morons wrong. They think you can't make it? Well, fuck them. They think you aren't good enough? Fuck them. They think they're better? Fuck them. Prove them wrong. Start writing a journal, maybe. You'll be able to identify then what triggers these thoughts in your head. Think of thoughts just like clouds. You can either look up at the sky, focus on the clouds and make things out of them, imagine they are something else, or you can just let them drift on by without a second-thought. Look into Stoicism, there are links in the sidebar. Plus, if you get an idea or some notion? Write it down. You just want to vent? Write it down. It can help structure your life and your thoughts.

And if you cultivate that inner strength, that self love, that confidence, that self-respect, you won't need romance. You won't need what they call love. You won't need a woman. Don't get me wrong, you can keep your eyes and your options open. MGTOW isn't the way for everybody, after all, but I think it's a crucial part of masculinity. It helps you a lot. But the point is, you won't NEED that if you're content with yourself. All of your validation and love will come from within. You won't need it, you might still want it, but it won't be out of desperation or some notion of filling a void hitherto unfilled in your life. Your life will be full of works, things, people, places and activities that you enjoy. Hell, after that, you might even find that you don't even have time for a woman, your life will be so full. And you won't have time to agonize over it, stew in it, stagnate or wallow in it, either. You know what you are worth when you have that self-respect. You won't let anybody, after that, woman or man or inbetween, treat you like garbage. Because you deserve better and you don't have to put up with the bullshit.

You have to be strong in the shadows. It's not an easy road but it's a road worth traveling. Try not to care what people think of you. Ultimately we tend to obsess over what others might think, say or do in response to us. Really, they probably don't think much of it and if they do, it's short-lived. Don't worry about them. Worry about you. Focus on you. Do your thing and stop giving a shit what anybody else might think of you. Avoid attaching your self-worth and self-confidence to other people's words or opinions of you. Fuck them. Are they anyone to judge you? Nope. Trust me, I've been down the road you're going down and I lived it. I was awkward, desperate for any kind of attention or affection I could get, I was still living in the fantasy of 'romance' and 'love' and all of that feel-good nonsense. It didn't do anything good for me. I ended up in a hell of my own creation for a little over a year and had to start back from square fuckin' one after everything was said and done. Got my heart ripped out, suffered illness and addiction, went into poverty and near homelessness, I've lost jobs and friends and entire months of my life that I can never get back. Don't do that to yourself. You're worth more than that. I was too, only I didn't realize it until much later.

Good luck and God Bless.

aanarchist · 2018-07-15T06:17:51+00:00

You put female beauty on a pedestal as if it gives her intrinsic value for it, that makes you a beta. Until you kill the beta you will never be happy or satisfied with your life. You fix this by wanting to change, but not until you understand why being a beta is a bad thing. The thing is though is when you kill the beta beauty won't matter to you anymore, so you have the option of either stay where you are and hope for a miracle fantasy to occur, or destroy your fantasy and replace it with something better: self respect, self awareness and self mastery. The red pill isn't like some Hollywood romance movie ending, it's like the matrix trilogy, it's not a happy comforting sunshine and rainbows experience, it's a struggle that you choose to partake in because you prefer the ugly truth to a beautiful lie.

DUDAHR · 2018-07-15T14:55:08+00:00

dear u/bmebro i have a few suggestions look you sound like you have it bad but really take some of my suggestions first you need fresh clean air i suggest you don't go to cities unless you have a good reason to rather live somewhere in teh countryside and go out a lot especially in parks or forests the fresh air will help you out a lot the great walks you can have too and just look at the surroundings focus on enjoying their looks the feeling of fresh air andif you touch anything focus on the enjoyment of the feeling you get from touching it do some working out not at the gym coz there seriously a gym walking and working out will help you a lot believe me also stop thinking about how you want women think of why you don't need them why you mustn't have them if you want a good life rationalize things look at the world not once not twice but all the time and try and change the way you imagine it and rationalize believe me all of these will help it takes time and finally the final suggestion is get a pet either a cat or a dog or whatever makes you feel best i suggest a dog primarily since they always give you attention sure dogs take time but overall if you can have enough free time then a dog is for you you'll be having joys with it and i suggest in order for you to get more free time make yourself a passive income maybe start a business or businesses why not many richmen are rich coz they made themselves rich so you can too of course not only businesses but investing in real estate you can build real estate and sell it for profit if you want to but if you want a passive income that keeps coming always then rent that real estate out and stocks are also helpful in passive income and with passive income you won't have to trade your time for money you will trade money for money just do your research there is plenty of info on YOUTUBE anyway if you take any of my suggestions then please let me know coz the way i hear you you may be on your way to suicide which i want you to live in joy not die so please if you take my advices and reply if i have helped

StoneTempleFlyboy · 2018-07-15T21:59:36+00:00

Time. Eventualy your mental chemistry will change and you'll no longer think about it. You were addicted to the idea of it being real. With time and rest you will recover. Be thankful it's not a physical drug addictiin. Once recovered and emotionally stable you will not want to go back to using.

Title	Please help.
Author	bmebro525
Upvotes	8
Comments	19
Date	July 15, 2018 1:41 AM UTC (8 years ago)
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