"Red Pilled"

anongogogo · 2018-08-04T20:53:23+00:00

Alpha is a joke. They think they're alpha when they are getting cucked left and right.

801735 · 2018-08-04T20:35:41+00:00

Well,... MGTOW imo is part of the RP, understands the theory, agrees with it and does not play the game. But still is part of it.

Phantom_Spark · 2018-08-04T21:05:52+00:00

This is why there’s red pill which is the knowledge. Then you either are more MRA or MGTOW.

MRA believe you can still be with a woman and be cucked. They are only concerned with the laws. Many MGTOW fall into this camp. They want some safety so they can be with women again.

MGTOW is attempting to go a different way. That unless the structure of male/female dynamics undergoes radical change... it’s not worth it.

Yes... many men lack the intellectual honesty and fortitude to act in a way that is in accordance with his words. However those that are against MGTOW typically don’t research the more intelligent, well spoken MGTOW and simply resort to shaming tactics.

If you’re only argument is that someone is gay, or pussy or not a real man because they won’t do what you want? Then you represent the very problem. I would rather you call me every name in the book than submit to another man’s roadmap for life. That in and of itself sounds more gay.

But people who think this way are more likely to support men who sleep around and have multiple baby mamas as opposed to men who protect their seed and refuse to lay with an untrustworthy thot.

Marriage and being a parent does NOT make men responsible better men. T merely increases their burden. I’ve seen children who are more honest and responsible than plenty of married men with children.

But people fall for this because very few people are versed in the dance called healthy intellectual debate.

But to be clear... I criticize everyone. Men, women, children, leaders and followers. Everyone needs to be criticized in a constrictive way in order to improve. The fact that we can never criticize women is disgusting. If a woman can’t take criticism than she gets zero respect from me. And the same applies to men. Live to become better and do not settle for this nonsense.

Docbear64 · 2018-08-04T21:29:23+00:00

It wasn't always like that. The Red pill used to be " Women don't love men the way that men loved women" and it was a forum to discuss that phenomena.

Also before now when merely being a man who wants sex makes you a target it was useful and fun to share strategies and stories of having sex and telling the boys about your experiences.

Clearly I was a fan of TRP , it opened my eyes to the way of women . The issues I have with it is they have not adjusted for the current climate, they are still pushing escalating, kino, managing shit tests, acting aloof, and and still gaming women but it's actually a really bad time to be doing that.

TRP can work , it's not an exact science but if can help you develop a strategy to getting laid and meeting women . The thing is I know it left me feeling empty after a while and one of the last chicks I fucked through TRP strategy was this crazy drunken 21 year old latina who was a Single Mom trap , rape allegation, or STD away from destroying any man she was in contact with .

After meeting someone like that I saw how dumb it was to keep pursuing women in that way . As much fun as I had with a good chunk of the women I met using TRP I am older now and have a LOT more going for me. Pussy never has been nor never will be worth me endangering my freedom, success, or reputation for and TRP seems to have begun ignoring, devaluing, and overlooking the concept of "Monk mode" ( a MGTOW equivalent to state of being) where you focus on taking care of yourself and building yourself up .

I am a fan of TRP and the knowledge they share , a good hcunk of the Sidebar material here is from TRP and some of my favorite Red Pill bloggers ( Black Dragon, Rollo) come from the TRP part of the manosphere.

I just think the climate is too dangerous to engage women right now and it frustrates me that TRP hasn't adjusted. I know I'm not the only TRP guy who feels that way , I see a lot of former TRP posters here in various posts.

It was fun while it lasted but at the end of the day, the juice isn't worth the squeeze.

2018-08-04T21:30:07+00:00

In my opinion red pill is for those who truly don’t comprehend the inevitable devistating consequences to screwing around, dating, marrying with the opposite sex. If they knew exactly what they were risking when they pump and dump (risk: child support) or ghost (accused of rape) and still continue the play the game I question their intelligence is weaker than their pussy addiction. I will have to admit to truly become one who lives by the principles of MGTOW most will have to come to their own realization from personal experience — not just some 20 year old who reads about someone’s divorce rape on this subreddit. It’s still not real to them and the second a girl beats an eyelash at them they’re going to go back to redpill or pua.

When you truly go your own way and accept the independence, freedom and combat the feelings of loneliness with stoicism you embrace MGTOW and become something completely different than RP and PUA. The only way MGTOW is akin to RP is personal development and the reasons why. But when you look at both communities and compare and contrast them you can see what qualities, personalities, reasons, and intentions are so disparate.

2018-08-04T23:41:22+00:00

Agreed 100% Red and blue pill are two sides of the same simping coin.

Blue pillers simp to women about what they think they want (by acting like kind subservient men). Red pillers simp to women about what they actually want (by acting like a dominant arsehole).

TempleOfIron · 2018-08-05T01:12:11+00:00

Even SJWs call men incels. Fucking overused word now

Nov51605 · 2018-08-04T23:28:02+00:00

Damn, very concise and much needed post !

IntrovertedMagma · 2018-08-05T03:07:08+00:00

I never bothered with game.. Why spend time/money/effort when you can simply buy pussy??

I won't waste countless hours at the gym just so I can take a WAHMYN on a date and hope she fucks me.. Fuck that.. I am fit and that's all that matters.

Alpha is a code name for pussy worshipers.. They will do ANYTHING to get pussy.. My life is not about pussy, it is about what I want to do.. Pussy is just a commodity it can be bought just like milk or fish..

There is absolutely no reason to put pussy on a pedestal.. Alphas are weak minded individuals.

SocratesOnPot · 2018-08-05T03:23:24+00:00

Fun fact, Primeape Alphas actually have very high overall stress levels, and about equal to the very lowest member in the dominance hierarchy.

That should tell you something.

Philosognostic · 2018-08-05T04:46:40+00:00

The ones who act this way are still slaves to their own hormones. Much the same way as a junkie will blame everyone and everything else except the drugs, these men will hamster a new pussy pass for women and for much the same reasons.

One does not truly hate what one is addicted to. By admitting that you are addicted to something flawed and unworthy, brings with it the realization that you are flawed and unworthy and that is a thought almost everyone will flee from.

1UPZ_ · 2018-08-06T08:56:06+00:00

my issue with them is that they assume a good looking man is Alpha...

I've met true Alphas and they are men's men, as in Men voluntarily go out of their way to win their approval and look up to them as idols and leaders... thats a true Alpha. The very top Alpha are the men that both MEN and WOMEN covet as either as partner or a leader.

Ohboohoolittlegirl · 2018-08-07T11:53:36+00:00

There are good things to learn from them. However, the idea of Alpha or Beta is silly, the idea of valuing yourself based on your ability to get pussy is silly. The idea of powerplay among men in order to get a girl is silly. There's a lot of BP behaviour connected to them and it's in fact a place where the insecure part goes to thump themselves on the chest. Or where "artists" go to prey on their gullible audience who are willing to pay and mimic in order to get laid.

Lots of stuff is worth it, but the attitude and idea of TRP is to pamper to women so you can get your dick wet.

Being a MGTOW, I am aware as I came from TRP first. I know how to read body language, shittests etc. And yeah shittesting is poor behaviour, with the intention to see how you deal with it. A MGTOW will deal with this better than a TRP, cause a MGTOW wouldn't even care and just /shrug..

On Alpha - Beta. It's not a binary thing, it depends on setting, attitude, mood etc. What makes me Alpha to women, may make you look like a push over. We are all Chad and Beta to a degree..

Title	"Red Pilled"
Author	temporarycreature2
Upvotes	38
Comments	23
Date	August 4, 2018 8:33 PM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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