Self Preservation

scarletlagomorph · 2019-02-16T16:19:21+00:00

There is no preservation now. Not physically or morally or philosophically. Culture has shifted from being monolithic to granular, in large part because of the democratisation of information through the internet. The probability that your children will carry or pass on to their children any part of your goals, principles or culture is virtually nil. Likewise, the inherent genetic recombination done through diploid sexual reproduction means that within a handful of generations much of what you 'pass down' will be gone, even fewer generations depending on how far outside your ethnic groups your descendants reproduce.

If you want the purity of who you are, what you can do, and what you believe to live on, be someone that changes the world. Make excellence be your offspring because it can never betray you, never lie to you, never be ungrateful for your sacrifices. Great achievements echo long after your bones are dust; descendants forget your name and all that you were before a century turns.

[deleted] · 2019-02-16T16:00:40+00:00

Who cares? Live your life and have fun while you're still breathing.

CoinSwapTrader · 2019-02-16T16:05:18+00:00

People are more afraid of being forgotten than dying.

Having kids is an easy way to continue your genes through time...but it is not eternal.

Nothing in this world lasts forever and thus investing in this world trying to be remembered is pointless.

One small work for eternity and that lasts forever!

arisunchikun · 2019-02-16T16:06:09+00:00

Stop seeking external validation. Do what makes you satisfied, and it will come. If kids are part of that, go ahead, but doing anything for others to acknowledge you is a one way street to dissapointment and resentment

MrMagtow · 2019-02-16T16:59:26+00:00

You're programmed to want it. Overcome your programming. The sidebar should have something.

DT1726 · 2019-02-16T16:31:40+00:00

Only 18? still too young to even mention it. Wait till you are 35 or 40 then start thinking about it. Men are not women, our shelf life are much longer.

Yuniiii · 2019-02-16T16:05:36+00:00

when I was 18 I had same internal dilemma as you. now I dont give a fuck if world knows about me after death or not, cause with enough generations even biggest celebrities will be forgotten. I mean do you even know about YOUR family bloodline 3 generations ago? I dont.

I'm 20 now, haha.

mentalidade_logica · 2019-02-16T18:12:26+00:00

You're 18 - you are still a baby yourself. Give yourself some time to experience life, your perspective will also change with time.

PubliusVirgilius · 2019-02-16T18:21:33+00:00

No, you wont preserve yourself after death through children, thats a very abstract concept, but you will have a lot of real expenses in order to implement that concept and raise a child.

super__herb · 2019-02-16T18:23:22+00:00

Are you human?.. Other humans will live on past your death. It's ok. Humanity will survive, there's your self preservation.

DWShimoda · 2019-02-16T19:51:35+00:00

Maybe there are other ways to preserve who I am

Option #1: Put it in your will that you want your body to be "pickled in a sealed container filled with a heavily saturated salt-brine solution."

Option #2: Put all your effort into building some monument, or in acquiring money to erect such a thing -- some pyramid or massive statue of yourself... like the Pharoahs of Egypt, or Ozymandias.

Option #3: Instead of passing on your "genes" -- or preserving your corpse -- or erecting some monument -- pass on your knowledge, your wisdom, your passions, your genius ... teach others (need not be children); and YES, consider writing, inventing, creating something of value that others will use, replicate, pass on in turn, possibly long after you are dust (maybe even with your "name" still attached -- not that there is any guarantee of that, nor that it really matters one way the another).

Hint: Nikolas Copernicus never married, never had any children, achieved neither fame nor fortune during his life, wrote only one book, which was only published when he was on his deathbed... yet in a very real sense virtually every human alive today (*) is a "Copernican"; a child of his "mind"... Second example the other famous "Nikolai", Tesla; likewise never married, never had any children, yet nearly everything about our world, yours and mine, is impacted by his work, his genius.

(*) with the possible exception of a few flat-Earthers, and the tribes-people of the North Sentinel Islands, and perhaps a few others scattered in the the remote Amazonian jungle.

muracc92 · 2019-02-16T20:00:30+00:00

At 18 I wanted the same thing. 8 years later, I want none of it. Your outlook may greatly change over time.

Arcturix · 2019-02-16T20:55:30+00:00

Lots of great comments here.

As already mentioned, how much do you know about your great, great grandparents? - probably nothing.

You could live the ‘perfect life’ and leave your family with enough money for a lifetime. Give it 1 or 2 generations and it’ll be gone.

Focus on yourself. Do what you love.

I don’t understand why people are scared of death, but that’s just me. I suppose it depends what your beliefs are.

Either way, you still have a lot of time OP - plenty of years of thought, learning and retrospection yet! =)

[deleted] · 2019-02-16T21:14:50+00:00

I appreciate all the great replies, I can't really think of much to say other than a thank you, so this will be the last thank you: Thank you!

Mecha_Hobbit · 2019-02-16T22:54:56+00:00

Listen to a 22y/o MGTOW 'Happy Humble Hermit' on you Tube.

Title	Self Preservation
Author	PaintedGuardian13
Upvotes	11
Comments	31
Date	February 16, 2019 3:54 PM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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