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So, you can't win.
[–]SpecJoeMagic38 points39 points40 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The only way to win is not to play.
[–]In_This_Here_Economy18 points19 points20 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Because the emotional abuse women deal out is funny, edgy and quirky.
Men who kee at shit like this have no self respect.
[–]Tsukikoselenia7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Let's be honest,a lot of us actually endured this. Because "muh love". This being said you are still right, and admitting that you were pitiful yourself is important.
And I always love how they talk about how MEN are more abusive, EVEN when it comes to emotional abuse/psychological abuse, not just physical abuse. Yeah, maybe the last NPD you dated, sure, but on average you fucks even use emotional abuse and manipulation on your fucking FRIENDS or family due to your inability to make any effort and your disloyalty. They absolutely love projection.
But hey. "Manning up" means learning to deal with this, right? If you can't you're just a little boy or a pussy (oh the irony)!
[–]In_This_Here_Economy4 points5 points6 points 7 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
Women are masters at using men's egos against us. They know that the average man is trained to reject viewing himself as a victim under any circumstances and will deny his victim-hood at all costs, even at the expense of himself and especially when it comes to talking about, facing and framing the abuse of the woman he's partnered with. Women know, on the macro and micro, how to exploit the fact that men are trained to be stoic and strong by all means and until the end from boyhood up.
The only thing a man needs to do to expose dogmatic pseudo-feminists is take them at their word and express vulnerability as they claim we should, something we as men have a right to as human beings, anyway.
What's happening around the world right now is that men are finding the language, just as other victims of abuse have, to describe our experiences. The only thing left is for us to embrace the vulnerability necessary to articulate that language and our experiences. The results from that alone will wake a lot more men the fuck up.
This society increasingly claims to want us to do that, but putting it in practice exposes a LOT of lies. This society doesn't want men talking about and reclaiming their own agency and autonomy. This world doesn't really want men to relinquish our gender roles. This world wants women to relinquish theirs while pushing us further into our own, and we only assist it in that goal when we reject our own humanity and demand emotionless "stoicness" from ourselves and other men.
[–]Tsukikoselenia2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I agree with everything, except that I wouldn't say that women are masters of anything; men mainly let them manipulate them because of love and because the idea of "protecting" has been twisted and changed into accepting anything.When it comes to real manipulation, despite ""being the social gender"", if you don't give a shit about them, women are honestly pretty bad. I personally never had any problem showing vulnerability when it's fitting ( = never in front of a woman you give a shit about), but it doesn't help much when it comes to people being programmed to believe that "women are pure and innocent and you should just eat shit".
And yeah. The reason for that is that admitting a problem is needed to fix things, and they don't want men to be aware of the problems since it'd mean that they'd lose control and men would get the fuck out. Stoicism isn't bad by itself, but its meaning was changed into being blind to everything and fucking iwth your self-worth. It's not stoicism in order to solve a problem rationally. It's stoicism by thinking that you're not worth enough to complin about anything. Hey, you should feel lucky that this abusive, manipulative psycho fatass at least want to have something to do with something useless like you, right?!
[–]In_This_Here_Economy2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
When I call women masters, I call them that under the context of the power that's been allocated to them culturally (by men) and their ability to exploit that power on the micro and macro. The average man's sense of self worth (and the only value he has to this society, by and large, meaning even in the eyes of other men) is bound up primarily in his ability to provide, protect and/or perform, and most of what compels men to provide, protect and perform concerns procuring validation, approval, acceptance and (of course) sex from women. Women know how to exploit this well, and they have it down to a science. Women know that the quickest way to emasculate a man is by calling into question or diminishing his ability to provide ("he's broke/isn't ambitious/driven/wealthy enough for me"), protect ("he's a wimp"/"he can't defend me"), or perform ("he can't get it up/satisfy my sexual needs"), which means women have the collective power of determining the worth of men both in the eyes of those men and the world. Women know exactly how to trigger a man's insecurities in ways subtle and blatant, and a huge part of our interactions with them, whether we are aware of it or not, is based on us proving that we "qualify" for them, so much so that we don't even bother considering whether they qualify for us and find ourselves in shock when someone presents us with the notion that they should.
Overall, I agree with you. Women get their power from the fact that men have been taught to live on their knees when it comes to them. No denying that.
[–]RedHattedPhilomath0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
YES. It’s certainly not clever at all, but sometimes the simplest manipulation tactics are the best ones.
It’s basic social engineering. Everyone knows it, they just have the gall and cruelty to use it
[–]Svartanatten1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good one!
[–]Frogkaboo0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes dear. And I'm sorry. Simp Latin
[–]RoadToMGTOW1 point 7 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
I remember being like that. It’s so weird how woman tend to cry when they hurt you and you start to feel so sorry and start apologizing like you were the responsible one.
Glad I am not that moron anymore.
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So, you can't win.
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