This sub is is my wake-up call

ConstantChinner · 2019-04-01T23:28:37+00:00

The men who SEEM happy just haven't realized their woman has and is cheating on them and talking shit about them behind their back.
All women do this.

CoinSwapTrader · 2019-04-01T23:56:04+00:00

So you are the MGTOW types only in label but just one blowjob away from the plantation...
Until you have told women to leave you alone, had at least one stalker and dealt with insane women....you can't be truly MGTOW in my opinion....It is easy to pretend you can say no to food when you dont have food in front of you.

PrismMage · 2019-04-02T02:19:33+00:00

I see people post about how happy they are in relationships

Welcome to the illusion that is called Social Media. Stay strong! Stay sober and vigilant.

flatcircleequalstime · 2019-04-02T03:24:01+00:00

i feel you bro. i see some guys ragging on you cause you're one blowjob away form the plantation, but i don't see it that way. i'm very mgtow, years on monk mode, and i still accidentally ingest a blue pill here and there.

i agree, this sub is a great place. every time i think there could be a unicorn, i read a divorce rape story here about a loving wife that gave the guy 4 kids and fucked him good for 10 years then Tyrone starts at her company and she gives it all up for some 'tingles' and new dick, even if it means destroying your bank account, fucking up her own offspring and acting in lies and deceit. they all do it.

Batman_MGTOW · 2019-04-02T00:56:09+00:00

First of all, you will not go from blue pilled to red pilled in a day, it takes a lot longer than that. In my case, I found MGTOW in 2016 but quit after barely 2 weeks because I didn't understand and didn't even get past the red pill rage phase. Then, in 2017, I found MGTOW again, this time I had been on manosphere blogs for a couple of months so I was already kind of red pilled but not completely, this time I managed to stick to it, I started with a youtube video and became so obsessed with it that I watched every video that I could find on the subject to learn as much as possible and making my own opinion of what I was hearing and seeing. It took me 2 years to go from complete nice guy beta male nice guy to sigma male MGTOW. In the past, I was very needy and very thirsty, I thought that if I did what women wanted, then I would get what I wanted, but all the way through high school, only the jerks had been getting all the girls. In fact, girls always shown interest in me at times where I was rebellious against authority and kind of a bad boy, but that interest never lasted long because that was only a temporary state for me, I was too nice, and thought that if I was nice, people would reciprocate, I discovered later on that I was wrong.

It is good that you have found MGTOW and are trying to change, but I can tell you from experience that it is not going to be easy, you will get shamed a lot along the way, a lot of people will try to drag you down to the plantation, and in most cases, they succeed, only a select few manage to remain MGTOW for life. One thing that you need to realize is that as long as you do not cohabitate with women, you do not marry and you do not plan on ever having children, then you are a MGTOW. You can even be in a relationship and be a MGTOW if you have a strong enough grasp on the philosophy to maintain your independence while within a relationship. Also, you will often see people here claiming that women can't love men, and this is true, to an extent. Women don't love men as a person, they will never sacrifice their life for you if they have the opportunity, but they will expect you to do that for them, and so will society.

Women value men based on 3 characteristics and those are: Looks, Money and Status (or LMS in short).

1) Looks are your height, the aesthetics of your face, your body (whether you have muscles or not), whether you have hair or not, and even the color of your skin, with white european being at the very top and native asian being at the very bottom according to Tinder experiments.

2) Money is represented by the clothes you wear, the car that you drive, the things that you own and the job that you have, the more expensive fancy stuff you have, the richer you are to women. It does not matter really how much is in your bank account as long, women take shortcuts to determine your value, they know you won't show them your bank account, but they will take guesses based on how you present yourself. So, if you dress like a poor person, even if you are rich, women will think that you are poor, and if you dress like a rich person but don't have that much money in the bank, you will appear as rich. Some men fake being rich, while others fake being poor. You can use this to do whatever you want.

3) Status is your popularity, it can be limited to certain areas for example, a club owner who is only very high status when he is in his city but he become invisible when he goes to another city. The reason why status is important when it comes to attraction is because women crave attention, they always want to be the center of attention which is why they often hang out with celebrities because it boosts their ego and makes them feel important. You don't need status to attract women however, if you are very good looking or very successful, you can even attract a lot of them with just one of these 3 characteristics.

Now the goal isn't to make LMS the focus of your life, you don't want to be like those incels on FACEandLMS who make looksmaxxing their ultimate goal, but you can use that knowledge to your advantage. For example, if you already plan on studying software or electrical engineering in college and already plan on training at the gym to get bigger muscles to be more healthy and feel better about yourself then your LMS is improving at the same time. Basically, the goal is not to chase women or to plan your life around LMS, but if your goals already align with LMS, knowing about it can help you not fall for women's traps. If you know that women only love you because of your money or because of your looks, then you will not fall for them and marry them, instead you will use LMS to your advantage to get as much sex and affection as you want while barely giving them anything in return. This is a very big advantage that you get with MGTOW, you can reverse engineer female nature and use it against women to make them go crazy for you.

In fact, LMS is only the beginning, after that you need to build interest, to do that without wasting time on PUA gimmicks, you must tease them and play hard to get. You do that by doing your own thing and waiting for a woman to start approaching you or giving you strong signs to approach her, then you show her a very small hint of interest by giving her very little attention, and then she will be even more interested because she will feel that you are most likely very high value for giving her so little attention, so she will chase you even more, and every time, you give them as little attention as possible, and little by little, they will start becoming more and more attracted to you until the point where they will start either approaching you randomly in school, or even tell you that they love you, I once had that happening to me, I was following this idea unknowingly and it made a woman very attracted to me. I could have slept with her very easily if I had known about all of this back then, in fact, she was coming on strong so much that I ended up rejecting her.

My point is that you can be MGTOW while still having your fun with women, you can still get laid, and even date if you want, but you need to use those tricks and give them as little time and money as possible so you don't get screwed over. Your value should still not be based around your success with women but there is a lot of fun to be had in my opinion. Basically, as your LMS score gets better and better, as you accomplish things in your life and become successful and more fulfilled, women will start to chase you and getting them will be so effortless because they will put in all the effort, and all you'll have to do is sit back and wait for them to show signs of interest.

Also, you must be careful, not all the posts on this sub are true, it's not that women are manipulative monsters who only want your money, it's just that women are different than men, and they have been given so much power by our society that they don't know what to do with it, so they use all the means they have at their disposal to get everything they want from us, and they have no sense of morality. In other words, you should not blame women, you should blame the society that gave them this power. And if you don't want to get screwed over, then don't give them that power, choose your women wisely and date only the good ones but never marry them because even the good ones can turn bad if they are given too much power.

If you only date and never cohabitate, get married or have children and use common sense, you are not going to get screwed over, it's not true that all women want to file false rape accusations against us, and the few who actually do this are often the craziest and are easy to spot if you are willing to look for the signs. But even the nicest women should not be married but they can make great girlfriends.

Another thing also is that you can enjoy relationships without all the drama and bullshit that comes with them. Hear me out, in each relationship, there is something called the honeymoon phase, that is when you just met, you really love each other and want to get to know each other more, it is during that time that there is the most sex and the most good moments that happen. It is the best period of all relationships. And with the knowledge that I have given you, you can have fun with temporary relationships where you repeat the honeymoon phase as many times as you like.

You can also use LMS to get as much sex as you want. Basically you can do anything you want, as long as you don't settle down, you are free to take advantage of everything positive that women have to offer without most of the negatives.

Also, if you want to learn more about MGTOW, I recommend you watch some good MGTOW videos and learn more about the subject, it will help you to understand a lot of things that you knew nothing about and I believe it will help you more than this sub. Don't get me wrong, this sub is great, is has a lot of memes, and great posts, but nothing can compare to the value that you can find on MGTOW youtube channels. If you want a good guide on the subject, you can download my guide to MGTOW, I was going to include 2 other parts to it to make it like a Guide to Success but I gave up after part 1. Part 1 is a list of youtube links split into many categories which give you different perspectives and will give you all the MGTOW knowledge you need to be fully red pilled if you take the time to watch them all. After that guide, you will hit a plateau and anything else that you read or watch will be just a reminder and most of the content will become repetitive. If you are interested, you can download it here (it's a google doc btw): https://drive.google.com/open?id=1meoQMdT0773O5OM6niiuyHkyvEE_2bNi

simplisticallysimple · 2019-04-02T02:59:51+00:00

You can't be MGTOW unless you've done all you've wanted to do sexually.

Otherwise you'll always be in a "one blowjob away from the plantation" situation.

Vraboxin · 2019-04-02T15:22:56+00:00

Regarding the posts you see of how happy those people are;

remember that it's just a singular good moment they are willing to show to the entire world, yet they do not ever show the rest of their lives, which is mostly mundane, boring, or unpleasant.

Most of these people have boring lives but they receive notifications that gives them an artificial high whenever they read how people are jealous of their amazing lives.

MuleFool42 · 2019-04-02T15:56:15+00:00

People posting is for show. It's not the real relationship, it's performance for friends and relatives and the world at large. Outwardly, they look like the perfect couple and everyone seeing them is led to think that.

Then they separate and everyone is so surprised because of how perfect they were together. It was never that way, that's just what they chose to show.

Title	This sub is is my wake-up call
Author	harrison_wheels
Upvotes	120
Comments	24
Date	April 1, 2019 11:17 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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