To The Visitors...

My-Name-Is-No-One · 2016-09-28T23:37:28+00:00

Hehe. Good points, but I don't think you realize just how inconceivable "going your own way is to both men and women. I mean, go figure that women can't understand when a man doesn't make his life about a woman since everything is about them anyway, but most men would wither and die without a plantation master, or some unicorn to dream of, and hell, even most MGTOW cant and havent given up women yet either.

That being said, walking away from women and sex are very mind-boggling to most people, and if you tell them the true (MGTOW) reasons you don't participate, they flat out wont accept it.

logophiliac · 2016-09-29T01:05:16+00:00

Yep. I get stuck with all kinds of labels (e.g. gay, incel, virgin) by women (and manginas) who simply cannot accept the notion that they might be completely unappealing to anyone because of their own character flaws.

Myfingersdontwork · 2016-09-29T02:24:13+00:00

Alienation, societal shaming and separation is what is trying to be deployed upon MGTOWers at the moment now that we have stopped being simply ignored. The absolutely hilarious thing is that none of these default tactics have an impact at all and those that are trying to gain control again are at a loss as to how the fuck to handle us.
MGTOW is a set of guidelines and the individual goes their own way down that path rejecting or adhering to those guidelines therefore MGTOW cannot be pigeonholed or really labelled in any concrete way as it is something different for each person and it is driving gynocentric society crazy.

Smitty6 · 2016-09-29T02:59:16+00:00

Men are waking up to the facts talked about here. A lot of them have no idea that MGTOW exists. They don't know there is a name for it but they are out there knowing the same truths and living their lives on their own. They know what women are like. They know what they are getting into. They know that marriage is a poor deal. They just don't know about MGTOW. They just learn these truths on their own because it is truths.

methylotroph · 2016-09-29T11:56:33+00:00

What is true of mice is also true of men, we are the beautiful ones: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z760XNy4VM

BruceJennerTesticles · 2016-09-29T03:32:56+00:00

No we are not

-- I'm not so certain of that, and this:

think MGTOW are some special breed of men

Is a distinct possibility.

-- Rejecting/dismissing it "out of hand" is actually being done on an ideological basis -- the belief not merely that all men are "equal before the law"; but the belief (echoing/mirroring feminism & egalitarianism) that all men are equal = identical, period. That is that we are equals in terms of intellectual capacity, self-discipline, self-control, sexual drives, level of vulnerability to manipulation (intellectual, emotional and psychological), etc.

Now if you were to posit that all men are the exact same height, weight, have the same muscle mass (whether they work out or not), have some identical athletic ability (or even the capacity for identical athletic ability -- i.e. Peter Dinklage COULD have become LeBron James if he had simply WANTED to)... if you tried to (seriously) posit THAT, everyone would simply LAUGH at you, and think you were NUTS.

Yet when you (or other "true believers" in egalitarianism -- whether they recognize themselves to be such or not) claim the same kind of thing in OTHER regards -- again intellect, psychological stability, self-control, self-discipline, ability to "go their own way," etc -- then you expect to LAUGH and declare anyone who disagrees as INSANE possibly even call them a "bigot".

-- The reality is this -- whether because of genetics, or upbringing, or early childhood trauma or neglect or [whatever] -- SOME men, indeed MANY men, (and IMO & my experience) probably MOST men... simply don't have the "capacity" to actually follow the MGTOW path. They just CANNOT do it -- at least not without becoming wholly miserable -- and invariably they WILL (again & again, and no matter how damaging or detrimental their prior experiences) seek out yet another "relationship" with women.

Ergo the opposite -- the men who CAN follow an "MGTOW" path in life (and throughout their life) -- and moreover can do so quite CONTENTEDLY and HAPPILY -- are indeed relatively "rare". Whether that is due to genetics (perhaps some combination of several RECESSIVE genetic traits), or it is due to some early/abnormal life experiences, or some combination of those with an additional intellectual capacity to be capable of CHOOSING to override/overcome the base "biological instinct & drives" -- doesn't change the fact that they probably ARE an "outlier."

-- Now you may not like that fact; but there are a LOT of things about nature and reality that people don't "like" -- it doesn't mean that they are not so.

Title	To The Visitors...
Author	Neonninja2070
Upvotes	44
Comments	15
Date	September 28, 2016 11:14 PM UTC (9 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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