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Update

nikaus

August 27, 2018

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https://www.reddit.com/r/confession/comments/9aklq7/tricked_scammer_ex_gf_to_get_an_abortion/

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Title	Update
Author	nikaus
Upvotes	6
Comments	50
Date	August 27, 2018 1:13 AM UTC (7 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/9akr0h/update/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MGTOW/update.502601 https://theredarchive.com/post/502601

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So, just curious..... what about identical twins? You take the position that an individual’s life begins at conception, that a specific person pops into existence at that moment, but with identical twins, there’s only one conception, but two distinct human beings are the result.

It seems that the fertilization of an egg creates a potential for one or more human beings, but it won’t be known until later how many that will be (zero, one, two, etc).

Also, identical twins, being distinctly different, and in particular psychologically, demonstrate that genetics do not determine everything. There are elements to an individual human that are only determined later in development.

the belief that there’s a singular moment when a human comes into existence seems to me like a matter of convenience. Is there really a difference between using contraception and abortion. Either way, a human life is deliberately prevented from coming into existence, just at two different stages of the process. Both are willful acts against nature.

Furthermore, implantation of a zygote into the uterine lining is not guaranteed. An estimated 30% of normal zygotes fail to implant and get flushed out of the uterus during the next menstruation. If it was discovered that a known and safe drug lowered that failure to implant rate, would sexually active women of child bearing age be obligated to take it?

[–]MadPreacher1AD-1 points0 points1 point 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What about identical twins? Identical twins are formed when the egg gets fertilized then splits into two different children. So what about it?

It seems that the fertilization of an egg creates a potential for one or more human beings, but it won’t be known until later how many that will be (zero, one, two, etc).

It doesn't create potential children/humans. It creates humans. It doesn't create dogs, cats, or dolphins when a male and female human procreate.

the belief that there’s a singular moment when a human comes into existence seems to me like a matter of convenience. Is there really a difference between using contraception and abortion. Either way, a human life is deliberately prevented from coming into existence, just at two different stages of the process. Both are willful acts against nature.

Science says that life begins at conception. This isn't a belief, but rather a scientific fact. Get out of the dark ages idiot.

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If someone is considering aborting their child because the child might be "inconvenient", then that child would probably have a really shit life and be better off aborted

Disagree. Women are stupid and emotional. They're not good at predicting the future. And being an orphan isn't so bad a life that it is better to kill the orohan instead.

If being an orphan is so bad then why not kill them at any time? Do orphans commit suicide thousands of times moreso than non orphans? Life is hard in general. I think you're over playing how difficult life is as an orphan and applying extreme sanction based on speculation that wouldn't fly in any other circumstance (eg without pussy pass).

Like I posted earlier, there are 153,000,000 children who would love to be adopted, lets adopt them before we decide to bring more unwanted children onto this planet.

So what? I went to college with orphans. No denying they have a harder life than most but is it so hard that killing them is better? That's ridiculous. It's an argument for killing them at any age not just before they make it out of the womb.

[–]Global_MGTOW0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

In Russia and the Ukraine, studies have shown that 10% – 15% of these children commit suicide before they reach age eighteen

These studies also show that 60% of the girls become prostitutes and 70% of the boys become hardened criminals

Another Russian study reported that of the 15,000 orphans aging out of state-run institutions every year, 10% committed suicide, 5,000 were unemployed, 6,000 were homeless and 3,000 were in prison within three years…

Those are pretty dismal numbers, why be born just so you would end up committing suicide, or ending up as a prostitute, or being homeless with no where to go? Seems like a lot of suffering of children just so that 1 in a 1,000,000 kids might become a millionaire some day.

If neither parent wants the child and wants to abort said child, are you willing to adopt the child yourself and make sure the child has a decent shot at life?

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