whats the point?

Herpnderp145 · 2018-01-23T02:56:34+00:00

Let me posit you a simple question:

Before you hit puberty -- when you were a BOY who didn't really give a shit about girls (and yeah you may have had some vague idea or notion that "someday" {in the WAAAAAY distant future} you would probably be expected to get "married" and "have kids n shit") -- well...

**Did you NOT get any enjoyment out of life back then?**

Did you not feel that life -- just LIVING life in and of itself: that learning about the world, doing things trying things, making things -- was a "purpose" just as that?

In fact, you probably couldn't WAIT to get older -- so that you would be an ADULT -- and thus FINALLY able to really, actually DO the many things you'd heard or only been learning about, perhaps at best making fairly small scale & crude attempts at... and mostly just "dreaming" about.

-- Recapture that "boy" and HIS dreams...

Then go do SOME of them.

alienSpaceMuffin · 2018-01-23T01:24:05+00:00

You need a hobby.

PantsInBed · 2018-01-23T02:05:14+00:00

For yourself and to master the challenge of life. It's just a game. Treat it that way until you're game over.

We all get to the end of it at some point, man. We're lucky. Think about our forefathers who lived a lie and died in wars or got the black lung from working the mines.

I'm happy to be a man. Do you think it would be better to live like a vindictive narcissistic woman? Neurotic and emotional all the time, unable to truly love. Only caring about her endless need for attention, to consume and manipulate others to do her bidding, all the while feeling inferior and like a victim. I believe the only reason why women don't kill themselves is because they're to emotional to do it. When committing suicide you're apathetic and numb, not emotional and frantic.

Enjoy your existence as a man. Find your passion. Sit on a stump in the forest while it rains, have a cup of coffee and smell nature. Life is worth living, especially if you're able to detach yourself from going auto pilot and see how people follow the road, just because it's there.

gMoneytz · 2018-01-23T04:27:21+00:00

Keep in it!

I lost a lot of key relatives the past 18 years in the same time I've tried to make sense of the crazy I was experiencing from the world of females.

I hit that bottom as well. I am too trying to make sense of this thing called life, but I'm using my age as a motivation to live harder, regain my old hobbies, do those projects I've had in-mind for years. Reconnect to the young me to make the next 10 years something to overshadow the shit I've had to deal with.

I'm a decade older than you. DO NOT think you are rudderless and dont think your tank is empty. The next 10 years are right here. Live for you, man!

ThrowawayGhostGuy1 · 2018-01-23T01:27:05+00:00

All I can say is what I do. I have a lot of hate I haven’t worked out, and that’s what drives me. I see through everyone that held me back and shit on me over the years, all the abusers and scumbags that walked all over me, and the thought of leaving them in the dust of mediocrity is what keeps me going. Maybe I’ll flame out, maybe I’ll blow up, who knows. But sometimes spite is a beautiful motivator.

alienSpaceMuffin · 2018-01-23T04:06:42+00:00

Everything is Temporary.

In the end it all spirals down to total Entropy and the heat death of the Universe.

You know what you do ?

You Laugh.

You say fuck it. If you're willing to consider killing yourself then you should be willing to do anything and everything else too - because whats the worst that can happen ?

Death ?

Fuck you already decided to do that.

So do everything else first.

And Shimoda nailed it - at heart all MGTOWs just want to capture their boyhood - when girls meant nothing and riding your bike, throwing a ball playing hockey climbing a tree was enough to make you happy.

Ask yourself why thats still not enough. Its because you're still swallowing ALL the fucking bullshit that everyone else is.

Stop living everyone elses fucking life and go live your own.

aanvals · 2018-01-23T02:41:55+00:00

went from 65kg to almost 95kg

Its your health, lose the weight (/r/keto), and start lifting.

The cloud will rise off of you and you will see sunshine.

Do it.

Herpnderp145 · 2018-01-23T03:10:53+00:00

I'm starting to feel the same as well. I still have lots of hate toward people who are spreading lies about me. Though I've been listening to some jazz lately and the genre itself is so beautiful as well as all the sub-genres within it that it really makes me want to go out and go to some live music shows as well as perhaps thinking about playing an instrument one day as a hobby. Also I've been setting some goals for me to forward my career that keep me going. Also you mentioned you gained weight. Work out, get on a spin bike, eliptical, go put on some hand-wraps, gloves and punch a punching bag. Then lift afterwards, that testosterone spike will help you feel chill and alive.

RogueRenegade · 2018-01-23T03:39:23+00:00

My man, get some greens, ps4 and start partying until there's no tomorrow. Refill your greens and repeat. Let the world burns. Just let it go.

fcb98292 · 2018-01-23T08:55:31+00:00

Several years after my rape in family court, I rediscovered my hobbies. When I was a young man, I liked airplanes. Now I fly a Cessna. I also liked asian girls. Now I go to SE Asia two weeks a year and fuck all the best women in the world, with no strings and no aftertaste. I also liked photography. So I bought a nice camera and spend several hours a week pointing my lens at whatever looks good to me. And I do so without any female input. Because that would just reduce my enjoyment of making myself happy.

None of this would have been possible had I gone along with the crowd and remained in the cunt hunt.

LuigiC173 · 2018-01-23T04:39:24+00:00

I am also 28 and for me what has changed the most in comparison to earlier in life is I have rejected participating in the rat race. All your life you are groomed to become something, take on a career, rear children, etc. but in reality as someone who is of scientific wonder that thinks on the universal scale any and all we do here on the third rock from the sun means jack shit. I am not knocking those that pursue their passions as work by all means but life should be about leisure if you ask me and this toxic work world that society has created is just not correct. You fall into routine with age that is just the norm, people think I have ADHD or autism because I do the same things day in day out. They never take the time to think maybe the person is just highly independent to the point that repetition makes certain things second nature alas do not delve into negative thought the mind is a powerful organ it shall run away like the chain reaction of a nuke in this case. Appreciate the simple things in life and be thankful for your precious time on planet Earth.

MaestroLogical · 2018-01-23T10:04:17+00:00

I keep going to see what happens next. I've always been the type that wanted to know what was around the corner. Wanting to see it for myself.

I'll be Woody Harrellson, live streaming the apocalypse with a smile on my face.

desfreitags · 2018-01-23T21:52:03+00:00

Hey I firstly wanted to clarify that I didn’t want to send that to you as some sort of tough love, teaching you the hard truths kind of bullshit, I was interested in your take on it. You have some impressive skills that are valuable plus some personal qualities that are really important like resilience.

Your take on relationships and friendships is pretty caustic. Maybe all your friends are lousy people but you need at least one solid male friend, you can’t be an island. You also need to make an effort to see then and hang out as it’s all too easy to stay at home alone sometimes. That’s my experience anyway.

In terms of the point of it all, my experience again is that my expectations of what adult life would be like were pretty unrealistic. Bills and the daily grind really are the norm and a lot of the time real happiness can be pretty fleeting. It’s still worth it, but it’s hard and you should expect it to be hard.

I personally think that hobbies are for children and I’m not going to suggest you go take up woodworking or something. Your job is going to be the biggest source of satisfaction in your life so invest in it, which it sounds like you are. It might just take longer to see the results of that. There is nothing wrong with playing computer games.

Finally, there’s a really big link between physical injuries such as those you describe and mental illness of some sort, like depression. If you haven’t already, you might want to consider speaking to a doctor. If they recommend medication, it’s not to permanently change you or your behaviour, it’s to temporarily fix a chemical imbalance in your brain so that you can sort out other issues in your life and get to a point where you don’t need them anymore.

Good luck and pm me anytime if you want to.

alienSpaceMuffin · 2018-01-23T04:47:17+00:00

[deleted]

Sumo94 · 2018-01-23T06:10:39+00:00

What are you going to school for?

random_ner · 2018-01-23T07:59:43+00:00

I think you just need to do something that'll make you feel like your need it and not alone. If you have your self covered i suggest going out and helping those that really need it. Help the homeless, animals, those in other countries.

Men are actually good care takers as well. Though majority of the credit is given to women. The difference is that men will want to make sure everything is good and stable while women will just go with the flow. Just find something you care about and care for it. Its the will to cause change that drives people.

jay2max · 2018-01-23T08:47:24+00:00

read pessimistic philosophy, cioran, ligotti and schopenhaur. learn to cook or prepare nice food. these are the two things apart from my skill/hobby/practice (music)

have one thing you want to get better at and just get better at it

fcb98292 · 2018-01-23T08:50:01+00:00

Go make money and make yourself happy. You will come around to know that taking care of you is the best thing you can do for anyone else.

desfreitags · 2018-01-23T11:05:47+00:00

There’s no shortage of advice for you here, most of it is unlikely to help though.

If you are interested, can you read this article and tell me what you think about it?

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-harsh-truths-that-will-make-you-better-person/

alienSpaceMuffin · 2018-01-23T12:08:33+00:00

[deleted]

whats the point?

Comments

**Did you NOT get any enjoyment out of life back then?**

Then go do SOME of them.

You're welcome.

BTW, keep in mind that you don't necessarily HAVE to specifically do the "things" that you dreamed about as a boy.

-- Again, you're REALLY clueless.

Ooooh, a "doctor"....

Yeah, we get it already Eeyore.

Ironically enough, even though it is/was a simple typo...

Title	whats the point?
Author	alienSpaceMuffin
Upvotes	29
Comments	97
Date	January 23, 2018 1:17 AM UTC (8 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/7sar7y/whats_the_point/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MGTOW/whats-the-point.603410 https://theredarchive.com/post/603410