World birthrate data

DWShimoda · 2017-02-28T23:52:17+00:00

I wonder if Africa will take over?

You wonder if Africa will take over what? The many African nations cannot even properly govern their own territories, nor effectively harness their own natural resources... they're not going to "take over" anything.

They're certainly not going to overwhelm China's ~1.4 billion, nor India's 1.3+ billion, they're NOT going to swim across the Atlantic and "take over" the USA with our ~350 million, nor Brazil with it's 200+ million -- nor Indonesia (260 million) nor the rest of SE Asia, much less Pakistan or Bangladesh with their close to 200 million each.

The vast majority of Africans aren't going ANYWHERE, they will live AND die (by one means or another) on the African continent, and probably mostly in/near the place they were born; there is no means or mechanism for them to do anything different (not en masse).

As the guy with the gumballs visually demonstrates immigration to the west is NOT actually about alleviating poverty (much less reducing the impact of population growth) in their native countries -- it's NOT about that, it's about AFFECTING DOMESTIC policies/politics (i.e. controlling/subverting existing domestic western nation populations) -- and THAT bullshit is just about "played out."

Remember 2.1 is replacement level.

This is fundamentally irrelevant. There is a notion that a slightly smaller population will lead to a downward "death spiral" -- but there is no logical/rational reason to hold that position, anymore than to believe that "exponential increase" will continue unabated into infinity -- certainly not as some "absolute" rule that is applicable to ALL population at ALL stages.

There are in fact more people of "white, western European" extract alive today than ever before in history; they may be a smaller percentage of the total world population than in recent decades and centuries, but that is a different thing.

The same is true of say... Japan. There are many more Nipponese alive now than during Japan's expansionary "empire" years. Now to be sure their total population apparently "peaked" (in circa 2008 at an estimated 128,083,960), and has been and is expected to continue to decline slightly year over year for the next few decades. But you have to keep in mind that Japan was just FINE in circa 1900 with a population of under 50 million. Notions that "if present trends continue unabated" -- like for instance the prediction that "Japan's population will keep declining [...] which will leave Japan with a population of 42 million in 2110" are ridiculous, because populations are DYNAMIC things. If & when a declining population opens up more resources, then (assuming the younger people haven't been STUPIDLY & FORCIBLY over-burdened with being slaves to rich-elders; a condition by the way that is itself unsustainable) the inherited wealth is likely to engender a resurgence in births.

The relative population thing is a different sort of creature -- the main concern there being major population differences between ADJACENT nations/regions on an essentially contiguous land mass. The vast mass of African population is most certainly NOT going to "hop across" the Atlantic -- and the reality is that they aren't going to be crossing the Mediterranean either. The "trickle" of so called refugees that HAVE been migrating across the Mediterranean recently, while a sizable number are NOT the mass of the African population (nor even a tiny fraction thereof) -- AND they are only doing so because (A) they fully expect to NOT be opposed in their crossing; and (B) to find "free" resources when they arrive in Europe. Change either of those conditions, and even the "trickle" will stop.

Moreover, you need to remember that warfare is no longer a matter of simple NUMBERS of people; and certainly not merely having a larger number of people on one side versus a slightly smaller number on the other (especially when the smaller one controls vastly more resources, and more sophisticated ones) -- we have ways of forcibly turning back and/or killing people en masse, and while "distasteful" and possibly a "last resort" is nevertheless still an option (and as other options fail or are abandoned, such use of force becomes increasingly more likely).

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DWShimoda · 2017-02-28T15:48:30+00:00

No. Most people in Africa don't live to reproduce. Many people will have many children. most of those children won't live past childhood. And those that do aren't guaranteed to have kids. From some sources I've seen Africa is just under the rate of replacement at 1.9.

BeardedMgtoWv1 · 2017-02-28T19:03:36+00:00

Take this bullshit to the alt right. Has nothing to do with MGTOW

Title	World birthrate data
Author	Whiskeybandit67
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Date	February 28, 2017 3:00 PM UTC (9 years ago)
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