Discussion about sexual dimorphism

genethedog · 2018-12-30T21:37:37+00:00

Men are, without a doubt, bigger, stronger and faster than women. The only area where difference is somewhat arguable is in the intelligence (smarter) department.

On the topic of IQ, the data shows that women cluster around the average (yeah, no shit) while men have more geniuses and more idiots.

If the cost of more geniuses is more idiots, I'll take it, we all have to take it, its better for the world to have more geniuses and guess what, they are almost all men.

Women will say this is because men kept them out of the club. Whatever. Marie Curie got a Nobel Prize in science/physics in 1903. So, obviously, 100 years ago, women could involve themselves in science. Maybe 100 years ain't much in terms of the earth or the universe. But its a hell of a long time down here. Its like 8 generations of people. And if the problem was simply men blocking them, then as soon as that stopped, there would be a FLOOD of women right? Wrong. They just don't give a fuck.

Every excuse women have come up with as a reason for their lack luster performance has been removed, so where is the shine? It's not coming because they always have to find another problem that they can blame for their failures (just like children, surprise surprise) and when they can't find something (because it doesn't exist), they create something - patriarchal oppression.

Perhaps what they mean to say is "the male tendency to be competitive for resources and status", but they don't want to say that because they know they can't (and don't want to) actually compete with men on a level playing field. They know they'd lose. And not for the reasons they would claim.

They would lose because their attention is fickle (constantly changing) and emotion driven (this thing over here distracted me, it's pretty, so now I want to go have it until something else catches my attention, and whatever has my attention at the moment is 'the best' at that moment).

They don't have the stamina, determination, and discipline required to compete with men in a corporate environment and they are unwilling to put in the time. Women want (translated: expect) a work/life balance that falls more on the 'life' side then men do, and they want it much sooner than men do. I'm 43 and I'm only NOW starting to 'slow down' a bit and say NO at work. And they have to be fine with it because they know I'm good and have earned the fucking position (and skills) to say no. Women start trying to say no to the boss the fucking day they start working. It's like they think they should be more-or-less 'setup' and 'almost retired' by 30. And most of them find a way to basically retire by that age by having a kid and then letting (er, FORCING) men and the state to provide for them or else the child will DIE (this is their basic claim without saying it). They paint the picture that there is no one in the whole world more "qualified" than them to raise a child. Their so-called 'qualifications' are just 'default'. The kid fell out of her cunt and no one else (besides the father and perhaps the grandparents) have any skin in the game when it comes to providing for the child.

However, I will give them a little bit of an edge to be the parent 'more suited' to bring up the child, but ONLY it its first 4-5 years. Women have bonded with the child and women are wired to pay MUCH MUCH more attention to peoples body language than men (we're too busy doing other stuff that's just as important like providing the resources to the mother and child, and himself so they all don't die). Women just 'distribute' those resources, they don't produce them. Women want to be the decider of who gets what they (child, mother, father) need. And from the moment they get this opportunity they want more and more for themselves and the child and almost universally end up neglecting the fathers needs (like the big piece of chicken and the occasional blow job). All the while they keep flogging the man to produce more and if he hits a ceiling that is out of his control, they don't care or even notice. As far as she's concerned, he's just failing to provide.

You could be in the middle of the Sahara desert and she's going to be going 'water, more water!' and if you cant just magically create more water, you're a failure and responsible for their suffering. It couldn't just be that perhaps they (she) should have made her way our of the fucking desert before creating another mouth to feed. As far as she's concerned, she's done 'everything' she's supposed to do. So it's YOU that's failing.

But after the first 4-5 years of a child's life, basically anyone can take care of the child. Hell, in the modern world, around 4-5, the kid is already spending much of his/her day in the care of others (day care and teachers). Now mom is relieved of the heavy pressures. Now her duties consist of saying 'tie your shoes' and 'here's your lunch' (or "here's your lunch MONEY" cause they don't want to actually make a lunch, that's just tooooo much work for her when she can just give the kid more of dads money.)

And that's about it. Once a woman has a child, the womans (and childs) needs will be provided for them for about 20 years.

But that isn't enough to get the woman all the way to the end of her life.

There are 3 main reproductive cycles in a womans life. 1) as they approach 18-19 years old. 2) as they approach 30. and finally 3) as they approach 40.

If a woman doesn't get another baby in her before 40, her meal ticket is running out. So they shit their fucking pants. They need their pension to last longer or they will be forced to return to the job market and they can't fucking have that.

If they can manage to attract another man and have him cum in her before the window closes, she can be taken care of by the man and the state until 60-65 and then after that they can claim their actual government pension and probably a nice big piece of the man's, if she was able to attract a resourceful male. But make no mistake, they wont have such high standards as their fertility window closes. They'll fuck a loser thug criminal on disability if it's all they can get. They'll still get their mothers allowance.

I have a friend that, although I love him, he's essentially a loser thug criminal on disability. A stripper managed to have 3 kids by him. Now she lives in subsidized housing (a beautiful 3 bedroom townhouse) for $250/month, and she collects $35,000/annually in government benefits for those kids. She makes more money for staying home with her 3 kids than I did in my first career (electronics) job after college (4 years).

She drives a big ass SUV. Parties. And anytime she wants more, she can still attract a guy that will provide it for her, and she does, often. She's about 30 right now and the kids are 3-6. That means she has 17 (or so) years of free money. But she only has about 10 years to secure another child (and wage slave male) of she'll have to fend for herself. And since her only 'skill' is stripping and sucking, she will not have any real world work prospects after 40. Maybe McDonalds. If she doesn't manage to have another, she will then claim to be 'disabled'. She'll say she's too 'anxious' and 'depressed' to work. And she won't be entirely lying. She's borderline personality (translated: fucking CRAZY), but she's done it all to herself by being a lazy entitled whore during the best years of her life. The same years where men MUST develop some valuable real-world skills or end up dead.

I do believe that, for the most part, until puberty, boys and girls are pretty much the same. Boys may be a bit more 'rough and tumble' while girls tend to find ways to learn how to manipulate people (especially men) to do the 'hard stuff' for her.

After puberty and into their 20's they still have the potential (keyword) and opportunities to work hard, develop skills and become an economically viable and valuable adult, but most don't. They take the easy way, well, they think its the easy way, and it is, but only for the short-mid term. Women typically don't think long term, especially not if there's an 'easier' (translated: more comfortable) way to get what they want in the present. They are the worlds worst procrastinators. Always 'putting off' and delaying as much responsibility as they possibly can for as long as they possibly can.

Most end up never realizing until it's far too late. Then, the only option they have left in their pathetic lives, is to have another kid. Then they will ingratiate themselves until the day they day by telling themselves and the world that they 'had the hardest job on the planet!' and because the kid doesn't die, they think they were 'really very excellent' at the so-called 'job'.

And as long as there are thirsty-ass blue pill men willing to fuck them, this will never, EVER change.

That was fun! Enjoy! Cheers!

MadPreacher1AD · 2018-12-30T21:00:44+00:00

of course they are better caregivers in my opinion

it was a dramatic change for the worse for me

Which is it? Either they are better or worse since your next sentence shows the opposite.

Women have the power of life and death in their hands when it comes to their children. They can murder their children while still in the womb with zero consequences and this lack of love and care for their children carries over to when the children are born. This is why you find more women killing their children then you do men. Looking at the stats for single moms you will find that children do worse than if they were raised by a single father. Single fathers, and fathers in general, make better parents as the stats bear it out.

The only thing women do better than men these days is being able to carry children to term. However, men are working on artificial wombs that will replace women altogether in that role. Men have already replaced women for sex with sex toys, sex dolls, and sex robots.

Supernumiphone · 2018-12-30T19:39:14+00:00

Well what difference does it make? Last I checked men aren't smarter than women on average. We have more geniuses and more idiots. Plenty of men have strong technical skills, but women who have those same skills are more likely to also pair them with stronger language ability, which is arguably more useful when they are combined.

Men have certain advantages on average, and women have their own. This doesn't tell you anything about any specific person. I'm stronger than most women, but any given woman might be able to bench press me, and be better than me at fixing cars and welding. So what difference does it make? We're all individuals.

Don't get me wrong, it can be useful to have some understanding of different groups' strengths and weaknesses, but I don't think it's all that helpful to put too much emphasis on them. At least not in an "us versus them" kind of way. I think that the trend towards greater tribalism that's been playing out is counterproductive.

To me the greatest utility in understanding the differences between men and women is not in being able to judge who is better, but just in understanding why we have difficulties understanding each other and working effectively together. Understanding women helps me to communicate with them more effectively. Most of us don't have the luxury or desire to avoid women altogether, so this is useful.

To me this understanding is also essential to being MGTOW. Without a proper understanding of how desire and mating works for women, I'd be reliant on the exhortations of others to keep me on my path. It would be too easy to lose sight of what I know and give in to temptation when I meet a cool woman who seems to be interested in me. But because I have the knowledge that I do, I can recognize all the small signs she is giving off that reinforce that knowledge and remind me why it would be a bad idea. That's where the value is for me, not in trying to put men above women.

Title	Discussion about sexual dimorphism
Author	improbsugly
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Date	December 30, 2018 4:31 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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