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Not a Canadian...what does a Governor General do?
/r/MensRights22/01/21 02:49 PM
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“The management of the city hall has, all of a sudden, become far too feminist,” "Feminism is about equality" Pick one.
/r/MensRights15/12/20 09:26 PM
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Removed. Please refer to this post.
/r/MGTOW215/12/20 06:08 PM
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Removed. This crap belongs in the other sub. Take it there.
/r/MGTOW203/12/20 04:28 AM
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Removed. This is not the sub for waging the culture war. There are plenty that cater to this sort of content. Take it there.
/r/MGTOW230/11/20 07:47 PM
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Others have pointed out why leaving her is the only choice here, but I'd like to add that there's some work you will want to do on yourself so that you don't end up in this situation again. I recommend watching all of the conversations between Paul Elam and huMAN on YouTube, such as this one.
/r/MGTOW228/11/20 05:45 PM
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Removed. Read the rules.
/r/MGTOW226/10/20 04:00 PM
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Removed. Read the rules.
/r/MGTOW223/10/20 08:06 AM
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Removed. Read the rules.
/r/MGTOW223/10/20 08:05 AM
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Removed. Not relevant to MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW221/10/20 07:49 AM
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such a problem is only solved by wide-scale cultural change in my opinion. I both agree and disagree here. I'm not sure that wide-scale cultural change is something that can be effected intentionally or directed with any precision. Culture is more of an organic thing that grows and changes on its own. Sure we've seen interventions that had lasting effects, but not always those that were desired. You're diving into a pool of unintended consequences. So while I agree that changing the culture woul…
/r/PurplePillDebate08/10/20 04:26 PM
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Removed. Rule 3: No memes.
/r/MGTOW207/10/20 08:00 AM
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Removed. Read the rules.
/r/MGTOW205/10/20 04:21 PM
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Removed. Rules 3 and 4. Quit your bullshit.
/r/MGTOW203/10/20 03:47 PM
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Removed. I don't even know what this is about, but it's clearly a low-effort post and therefore a rules violation.
/r/MGTOW225/09/20 05:24 PM
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Removed. This sub is for moving forward in a positive fashion, not engaging in inter-sub drama.
/r/MGTOW225/09/20 05:22 PM
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Removed. This is not a new sub.
/r/MGTOW225/09/20 05:21 PM
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Not on this subreddit. Removed.
/r/MGTOW224/09/20 10:07 PM
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Removed. Read the rules.
/r/MGTOW223/09/20 03:34 AM
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Removed. This is not the sub for this shit. Take it to the other sub.
/r/MGTOW223/09/20 03:33 AM
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I watched all but the last two minutes or so. It might be tangentially relevant to MGTOW, but that sort of content belongs in the other sub more than this one.
/r/MGTOW222/09/20 10:28 AM
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Removed. This has nothing to do with MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW222/09/20 10:12 AM
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There are occasionally guys here who express hostile or negative views towards women. They tend to get downvoted, and often times they get responses clearly indicating that sort of thing is not welcome here. I see it as a very positive sort of self-policing. It doesn't usually take the form of an attack. More of a gentle rebuke, just a "c'mon bro, let's not go there." I see this as an example of a very positive masculine trait. A positive, inclusive way of self-correcting. And yeah OP, I've noti…
/r/MensRights20/09/20 08:58 PM
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Removed. Rule 3: No memes.
/r/MGTOW215/09/20 08:56 PM
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Removed. Take this shit to a more appropriate sub.
/r/MGTOW212/09/20 03:44 PM
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Removed. Read the rules.
/r/MGTOW212/09/20 07:44 AM
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Removed. Best of luck with your channel, but this is not the sub for this sort of content.
/r/MGTOW210/09/20 01:37 AM
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Removed. This is not a relationship advice sub. They are out there, post this there.
/r/MGTOW209/09/20 03:34 PM
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Removed. This is not a dating advice sub.
/r/MGTOW209/09/20 03:31 PM
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Removed. Don't come here stirring up drama.
/r/MGTOW207/09/20 11:05 PM
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Fear Of Missing Out
/r/MGTOW226/08/20 03:42 PM
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Removed. Take this sort of content to a more appropriate sub.
/r/MGTOW223/08/20 04:23 PM
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Removed. Please that this sort of content to a more appropriate sub, such as the other MGTOW sub.
/r/MGTOW222/08/20 04:19 PM
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Removed due to rule 3.
/r/MGTOW222/08/20 04:17 PM
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This is not the men's rights sub. Take this sort of content there. Removed.
/r/MGTOW221/08/20 06:16 PM
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This is not the men's rights sub. Take this sort of content there. Removed.
/r/MGTOW221/08/20 06:15 PM
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Removed. This is the not sub for this sort of content. Please take it to a more appropriate sub.
/r/MGTOW218/08/20 07:48 AM
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Removed. This is not the sub for this sort of content. Please take it to an appropriate sub.
/r/MGTOW203/08/20 06:37 PM
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Removed. Please read the sub rules. This is not the place for sniping at women. Also see rule 3: No memes.
/r/MGTOW230/07/20 05:22 PM
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Removed. Please read the sub rules. Take this sort of thing to a more appropriate sub.
/r/MGTOW229/07/20 02:02 AM
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One could create a "masculism" sub and post exactly what feminists post but switch male with female to show how hypocritical they are. /r/menkampf/
/r/MGTOW226/07/20 04:51 PM
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There is a sub for this sort of content. Please take it there.
/r/MGTOW226/07/20 04:49 PM
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Please take this sort of content to the other sub. It is not appropriate for this sub. Removed.
/r/MGTOW226/07/20 09:23 AM
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Removed: Effort and quality.
/r/MGTOW226/07/20 09:22 AM
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Low-effort post on a subject more suited to the other sub. Removed.
/r/MGTOW221/07/20 09:50 PM
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This sub is not for waging the culture war. Please take this sort of content to a more appropriate sub. Removed.
/r/MGTOW218/07/20 09:51 PM
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Removed due to rule 3: No memes.
/r/MGTOW218/07/20 06:34 PM
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This content obviously violates the sub rules. Keep it up and expect a ban. There are other subs that welcome this sort of thing, take it there.
/r/MGTOW216/07/20 03:19 PM
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Please use the report button for posts that violate the rules.
/r/MGTOW216/07/20 03:33 AM
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This post violates multiple rules. Please that this type of content some place more appropriate. Removed.
/r/MGTOW209/07/20 08:04 AM
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This is not the sub for waging the culture war. Removed.
/r/MGTOW209/07/20 08:03 AM
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Plenty of people do that without religion. If he said in that stream that it happened to him specifically due to religion I missed it. In a lot of areas it's just what's expected and religion doesn't factor into it.
/r/MensRights06/07/20 03:43 AM
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You think his beliefs made him depressed and not his physical condition? In other words, if he had been raised without that belief system he'd be just fine and happy?
/r/MensRights06/07/20 03:38 AM
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he's also been brainwashed Seems to be what's been keeping him alive. Whether that's a good thing or not is up to you.
/r/MensRights05/07/20 03:43 PM
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This is not content for this sub. Please take it to an appropriate sub. Removed.
/r/MGTOW205/07/20 09:48 AM
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Keep this stuff in the other sub. This is not the place for it.
/r/MGTOW230/06/20 08:02 AM
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This sub is not the place for this sort of thing and you should know it. Take it to the other sub. Removed.
/r/MGTOW229/06/20 03:03 PM
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This is not the place to wage the culture war. Removed.
/r/MGTOW229/06/20 08:02 AM
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I'm not sure the single example you provided supports your thesis. After all, most of the people in that thread said that woman is an asshole. In other words, she seems to be an isolated bad person. Not exactly making the case that this is something widespread. What that example does support is the fairly widely known (in some circles anyway) fact that women are turned off by displays of weakness in men. It's not the fact that he was raped that's the problem, so much as that he's breaking down a…
/r/MGTOW208/06/20 01:56 AM
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This content is not appropriate for this sub. Please take it somewhere else. Removed.
/r/MGTOW206/06/20 05:50 AM
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This is not the place to wage the culture war. Please take it to a more appropriate sub. Removed.
/r/MGTOW227/05/20 02:15 PM
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This is not the place for this sort of content. Please take it to a men's rights sub or elsewhere. Removed.
/r/MGTOW226/05/20 08:39 AM
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This does not belong here. Please take it to a more appropriate sub. Removed.
/r/MGTOW214/05/20 07:05 AM
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Take your rage bait to a more appropriate sub. There are plenty that welcome this sort of content. Removed.
/r/MGTOW208/05/20 08:42 AM
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Removing this low-effort troll bait. If you actually want to engage in conversation feel free.
/r/MGTOW205/05/20 03:03 AM
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This is not the place to call out women or wage the culture war. Please take this sort of content to a more appropriate sub. Removed.
/r/MGTOW230/04/20 02:25 AM
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Not appropriate content for this sub. Please take it to a more appropriate sub. Removed.
/r/MGTOW227/04/20 03:06 AM
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This sub is not for negative focus on women of this sort, or calling them out for their behavior. There are subs that welcome that sort of content, please take it there. Removed.
/r/MGTOW226/04/20 07:01 AM
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This is not the place for sub drama or discussions of the other sub. Removed.
/r/MGTOW226/04/20 07:00 AM
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Removed due to rule 3: No memes.
/r/MGTOW221/04/20 08:50 PM
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Please check the rules before you post. This is not content for this sub. Please take it to a more appropriate sub. Removed.
/r/MGTOW211/04/20 09:27 PM
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This is not the sub for content like this. Please take it to a more appropriate sub. Removed.
/r/MGTOW211/04/20 09:25 PM
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This is not the sub for content like this. Please take it to a more appropriate sub. Removed.
/r/MGTOW211/04/20 09:24 PM
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Don't cross that line unless you're looking for a ban.
/r/MGTOW209/04/20 02:42 PM
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This is not the place to wage the culture war. There are subs for that. This is not one of them.
/r/MGTOW208/04/20 08:59 PM
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Please take this sort of content to more appropriate subs. Removed.
/r/MGTOW208/04/20 08:42 PM
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Effort and Quality: Posts should have some originality or value. Removed.
/r/MGTOW204/04/20 03:04 PM
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Effort and Quality: Posts should have some originality or value. Removed.
/r/MGTOW204/04/20 03:04 PM
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What does this have to do with MGTOW? Also violation of rule 3: No memes. Removed.
/r/MGTOW228/03/20 12:24 PM
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This content is not appropriate for this sub. Take it to the other one.
/r/MGTOW224/03/20 01:08 AM
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Removed. Rule 3: No memes.
/r/MGTOW220/03/20 04:39 PM
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Removed. Take it to an appropriate sub.
/r/MGTOW220/03/20 06:27 AM
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Removed. Rule 3.
/r/MGTOW217/03/20 06:34 PM
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Removed. Rule 3: memes.
/r/MGTOW217/03/20 09:03 AM
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Removed. Not appropriate content for this sub. Check the sub rules.
/r/MGTOW215/03/20 08:42 PM
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Removed. This content is not appropriate for this sub. Take it where it's welcome.
/r/MGTOW212/03/20 02:42 AM
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This sub is not for outrage porn. There are other more appropriate subs, please take it there.
/r/MGTOW204/03/20 06:01 PM
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Removed. This sort of content is clearly against the sub rules. If you are looking for a ban this is a good way to get it.
/r/MGTOW228/02/20 04:11 PM
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Of course women would never do such a thing. They don't need to, they do the opposite. Use sex to try to gain commitment.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 02:57 PM
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Some guys won’t be able to get regular casual sex unless they’re at least somewhat stringing the girl along to believe it’s leading somewhere. I'd say not just "some guys", but probably most guys. There can be a real grey area where a man can deceive even himself about whether or not he sees a future with a woman. "I'm not sure, I'll go on a few more dates with her to get to know her better." Along the way he's having sex, then comes to the conclusion that it's not a match. If he were truly hone…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/02/20 02:45 PM
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What is FDS? FemaleDatingStrategy subreddit.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/02/20 08:57 PM
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Well then take it to a more appropriate sub for that sort of discussion. They are out there.
/r/MGTOW217/02/20 03:36 PM
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Removed: rule 1.
/r/MGTOW217/02/20 07:41 AM
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Removed: Rule 3.
/r/MGTOW217/02/20 07:40 AM
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Removed. Rule 3: memes.
/r/MGTOW217/02/20 07:39 AM
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false flagging Even if that's true the mods and other members bear some responsibility for allowing that content through.
/r/MGTOW231/01/20 04:21 PM
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It’s true MGTOWs go thru a period of red pill rage as they exit the plantation, but it’s something they get over Yes but let's not rewrite history. /r/MGTOW has encouraged people to dwell in their hate and stay in the rage phase long before r/Incel got shut down. Yes it got worse after, but it wasn't some bastion of male positivity before. This sub was created in response to the negativity over there long before r/Incel shut down.
/r/MGTOW231/01/20 04:19 PM
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do men think women are retarded and can't tell a fumbling beta pretending to be into them? There's a huge gap between the Chad who can get ONS and FWB with ease and the pure incel beta. Tons of guys in the middle. Hell most guys are in the middle. Plenty of guys who are attractive enough to get a relationship but have never had a FWB. They're not all fumbling idiots. I'm a perfect example. I get a fair amount of interest from women, but only for relationships. If a woman is looking for just a go…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 05:38 AM
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doesn't mean that people in a relationship don't rank desire as equally important. Sure it does. We read those stories all the time. The women who prioritized desire, never managed to get commitment from the guys they wanted, and then decided to settle on desire to get a "good guy." Or the women who married a guy they didn't feel desire for but was otherwise a great guy. They expected marriage to impart some magical property to him and expected the desire to materialize after the ceremony but it…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/01/20 05:18 AM
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women don't hate weak men lol They don't hate them but don't respect or desire them either.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/01/20 04:39 PM
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So you think that toxic femininity as described above doesn't hurt men? It's never used to the detriment of men?
/r/PurplePillDebate23/12/19 01:25 AM
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the equivalent only hurts women. Gynocentrism on full display.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/12/19 09:01 PM
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"Violent X-rated material has more of an effect," Ybarra said. Obviously mistaking correlation for causation here. I have a hard time taking them seriously if this is the level of rigor they're applying to their work.
/r/MensRights19/12/19 04:56 PM
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FDS? Help out the non-regulars?
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/19 04:18 PM
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he will tell the Tertiary Education Quality and Standards Agency annual conference in Melbourne on Friday. So how much weight does this have? Is it just a recommendation, or will universities be required to follow this guidance?
/r/MensRights29/11/19 04:35 PM
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That's a misreading of the data. Thanks for saving me the trouble of reading the paper. That assertion didn't pass the sniff test but I didn't feel like reading it to find out why it was invalid.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/19 12:19 PM
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Yeah I thought about adding a caveat that I was referring to people lifting for aesthetics and not professionals, but didn't want to be pedantic.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 05:32 PM
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It's really not that hard to lift weights 5 days a week. If you're doing it 5 days a week you're doing it wrong.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/19 04:38 PM
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If you answered yes to these question, why do you think interactions with women should somehow defy the laws of human dynamics? There is a fundamental difference between those things though. Yes it is necessary to do unpleasant things to get along in the world. The difference is that I can do those unpleasant things while still being true to myself. I don't have to live a lie or wear a mask. I don't do that, or not to anywhere near the same extent, to get along at work or with family. If you hav…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/11/19 04:02 AM
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Removed due to misleading title. In the future please watch the video before posting it and provide an accurate synopsis.
/r/MGTOW202/11/19 03:17 PM
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Jealousy is an ugly emotion.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/11/19 02:14 PM
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‘Browns’, are you fucking kidding me? I've heard plenty of PoC refer to non-whites as brown people. Never seemed out of line to me. Is this like "nigger", where only people with an approved skin tone can use the word?
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/19 11:28 PM
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What exactly are you trying to say here? I agree that not all posters in this sub hew perfectly to the ideals you quoted, but the mods have to strike a balance in their enforcement. Nonetheless, "AWALT" is not necessarily an expression of hatred towards women. Recognizing qualities that women tend to have in common, and concluding that "the juice is not worth the squeeze" doesn't involve hatred or negativity. There is nothing in this recognition that violates the rules of the sub. Maybe I'm misu…
/r/MGTOW230/10/19 10:51 PM
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This is content more appropriate to the other sub. Please take it there.
/r/MGTOW229/10/19 12:21 AM
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Low effort cross-post of a cross-post. Removed.
/r/MGTOW228/10/19 02:25 PM
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Are you completely new to all of this? The questions you're asking are addressed by RP/manosphere 101-level info. I don't have any sources for good short summaries handy. Hopefully someone else does and will share. Your questions could probably be answered by just searching for "Alpha fucks/beta bucks".
/r/MGTOW228/10/19 02:07 AM
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I think it's a shemale? This makes it even more confusing. Not really. I don't think it's all that uncommon for trans women to project their self-hatred of their own masculinity onto all men.
/r/MensRights27/10/19 03:36 PM
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This only makes sense though if you consider sex to be something harmful. Yeah I'm guessing most of the people commenting are from the USA. The legacy of puritanism lives on.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/10/19 09:11 AM
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There are subs where this sort of content is appropriate. This is not one of them. Removed.
/r/MGTOW225/10/19 03:04 PM
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Wrong sub for this kind of content. Removed.
/r/MGTOW225/10/19 03:02 PM
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the burn victim I knew was very dignified, funny, and blunt. Probably was decently attractive before being burned, and was thereby able to develop that self-confidence. No doubt it's harder to do without that early positive feedback.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 04:24 AM
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Interesting. Was she sad or lacking in self-esteem? Not that I could tell. Didn't seem morose or anything, but maybe lacking in self-confidence, which wouldn't be surprising. I suspect that if she were willing to take the lead and initiate things with men she would probably do okay. However I understand how painful and difficult that can be when you have to push through a lot of rejection to get to that one "yes."
/r/PurplePillDebate24/10/19 12:09 AM
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Wrong sub. Removed.
/r/MGTOW223/10/19 06:36 PM
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... he's right though. Be thin = you win True but only up to a point. I've met women who were thin but unfortunate in the face who couldn't find love. One in particular took great care of herself. Slim, fit body. I would've loved to get my hands on it, but would probably want to keep it on the down low. I'd bet that's what she gets from all men. They'd be happy to fuck her, but she'd have to choose a low-value man if she wanted anything more than sex. Probably a rough life for her, spent mostly …
/r/PurplePillDebate23/10/19 03:26 PM
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This is not the sub to wage the culture war or rage at women. Removed.
/r/MGTOW210/10/19 05:56 PM
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I don't know if it has to be either/or. I agree that if I'm being completely selfish I'd want every other man to be locked into a marriage or at least financially supporting his children so I can have lower taxes. I'm not that much of a misanthrope though. I'd like to think that there's some middle ground. I don't want other men to be financially ruined and I don't want children to have an increased likelihood of becoming addicted to drugs or criminals or any of the other negative outcomes that …
/r/MGTOW209/10/19 06:34 PM
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This is not the sub in which to wage the culture war. Please take this sort of content to a more appropriate sub. Removed.
/r/MGTOW209/10/19 01:44 AM
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This sub is not the place to wage the culture war. Please take this sort of content to a more appropriate sub. Removed.
/r/MGTOW208/10/19 02:05 AM
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Removed: Rule 3: memes.
/r/MGTOW208/10/19 02:03 AM
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This sub is not focused on female nature or dating. There are other more appropriate subs for this sort of content. Removed.
/r/MGTOW208/10/19 02:02 AM
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This sort of content does not belong here. Please take it to the other sub.
/r/MGTOW202/10/19 01:07 PM
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It is asked that you provide a brief description of any video submissions. Additionally, this is content that does not belong on this sub. Removed.
/r/MGTOW230/09/19 12:21 AM
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Removed. No memes. Posts about being banned from the other sub belong in the mega-thread.
/r/MGTOW229/09/19 01:48 AM
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Where would it belong then? MGTOW1 would probably welcome it. The purpose of this sub is more forward-looking. It's for men who have already swallowed the red pill fully and are working to live their best lives.
/r/MGTOW218/09/19 02:31 PM
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This does not belong here. Removed.
/r/MGTOW218/09/19 02:22 PM
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But what kind of man did you pick?
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/19 07:09 PM
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Removed. Rule 3: memes.
/r/MGTOW218/07/19 12:27 AM
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in what decade? Late 70s / early 80s.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/07/19 12:10 AM
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what is this foreign country you people seem to have grown up in? Sure it wasn't unheard of, or maybe even all that uncommon for couples to get divorced when I was growing up. It was still a world apart from the world we live in today. I remember in my youth living in what I figure was a very typical middle-class neighborhood. Not conservative or anything. My mother was the only single mother on the block. She was looked down upon and shunned by some of the wives in the neighborhood. She struggl…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/07/19 10:41 PM
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They're still getting attention from the opposite sex. Sex is something. Sex is not nothing. Sex is not worthless. I don't disagree, but consider what the equivalent would be for a man. How does it feel for a man to be seen by a woman he desires as good enough for friendship, but not for sex? Sucks pretty hard, right? But hey friendship is something. Friendship is not nothing.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/07/19 03:02 PM
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Removed for generalized negativity towards women.
/r/MGTOW210/07/19 11:06 PM
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Removed: civility. Removed: civility. Please attack the idea not the person.
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 09:49 PM
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I don't think of romantic thoughts as being hormone related like sex thoughts can be. The desire for intimacy and connection is a fundamental part of being human, so don't expect to outgrow it. However you can learn to manage that part of yourself better, and shape your life to meet those needs without a partner.
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 09:46 PM
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Removed. Rule 3: Memes.
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 02:50 PM
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the bigger problem I see is treating it as an "inconvenience you can solve by taking a pill" Indeed. It's often a sign of heart disease. But why bother putting in the hard work to improve your health when you can just take a pill that lets you ignore your problems?
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 06:21 AM
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Duplicate post. Removed.
/r/MGTOW209/07/19 03:29 AM
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I've gotten reports on this post citing privacy concerns. Here's my understanding of the situation: Your IP address will be recorded along with your survey results. If you are concerned that it might be linked back to you in some way, my suggestion is that you either use a VPN, or don't complete the survey. If you don't think that your IP address is likely to be linked to your identity, or are willing to trust the OP not to attempt this, then go ahead.
/r/MGTOW208/07/19 04:55 AM
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whatever happens to MGTOW is of no concern to you. I disagree with the assertion that no MGTOW should care how it's represented out in the world. Plenty of men have been helped by the information they found on the subject, but might have rejected it first without giving it a chance if they believed some of what is said about it. There's nothing wrong with wanting to share with others something that has helped you, and wanting to correct misrepresentations that might prevent other men from giving…
/r/MGTOW207/07/19 09:55 PM
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I see MGTOW misrepresented a lot. I figure most of it is due to ignorance, but no doubt sometimes it is malice. It's good to be aware of the ways this is happening. It's why I don't recommend that anyone publicly apply the MGTOW label to themselves. Even if I'm content to have people know about my views, if I use that label they will get a lot of wrong ideas about me and I'd rather not deal with the potential fallout from that.
/r/MGTOW207/07/19 02:59 PM
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They start showing me scientific studies on happiness and tell me getting a girlfriend is a key factor in being happy. Seems like they're either misrepresenting the research, or they haven't looked very deeply. Strong, healthy relationships are indeed a positive factor in happiness, but only one of many, and far from essential. They key there however is that you have no guarantee that you will be able to find such a long-lasting, positive, stable relationship. You might just as easily end up mak…
/r/MGTOW207/07/19 12:50 AM
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The thought process doesn’t go past that. Saved me the trouble. Most people are not making the bulk of their decisions rationally, so there's no point in looking for rational explanations for their actions.
/r/MGTOW204/07/19 01:43 PM
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Why? Well for one thing, all mods see reports, rather than just one mod seeing a specific user mention.
/r/MGTOW204/07/19 01:41 PM
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Removed: Nonsensical and irrelevant.
/r/MGTOW204/07/19 02:11 AM
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It just seems vacuous to say that ...and yet people deny it all the time. That's why it's being said.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/07/19 03:01 PM
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I think that drawing a parallel between MGTOW and feminism is fairly accurate. In both you have philosophies that have elements of truth at their core. Both offer help to specific groups. Both allow the most negative and hate-filled crazies who shout the loudest to shape the public perception of them. That's why women who in the past would have identified as feminist are increasingly refusing the label. MGTOW is seen in a more negative light because the members who spread hate are more extreme a…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 03:38 PM
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it's not heavily policed to tell people how to think. Right. Go post some wrongthink over there and see how quickly you get banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/07/19 03:29 PM
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Removed. Obviously not content appropriate to this sub.
/r/MGTOW202/07/19 03:10 PM
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I also opened up another browser* to "www.reddit.com" That still looks like the old skin to me. I can't say why you're getting that. I use the old skin as well but when I open a private browsing window I see the new one, and it has the rules in the sidebar and looks pretty different. I was going to take a screenshot and share it but apparently imgur now requires a phone number to register so I'm won't be creating an account there.
/r/MGTOW201/07/19 10:00 PM
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Interesting in that your sidebar doesn't appear to contain any "rules" at all You must be using the old reddit skin, or some other app to view it. They show up on the new reddit interface. Thanks for the heads-up, I'll try to fix it so they show up for users of the old skin as well.
/r/MGTOW201/07/19 08:47 PM
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Removed for violating rule 1.
/r/MGTOW201/07/19 06:51 PM
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I don't know why this post has been downvoted. It's a perfectly valid point of discussion. Why is it even in comparison to the /r/mgtow subreddit? The idea there is to drive home the difference between the subs. To make it clear that this sub is not just the place for people who have been banned over there to post the same crap they did there. Wouldn't that be just handled by moderation? It is. More often than I'd like. Too many people don't seem to understand what this sub is about. Maybe they'…
/r/MGTOW201/07/19 01:56 PM
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I've noticed that interest in the opposite sex often tracks with attractiveness. I would expect this to be the case. As the required effort increases, and the likelihood of things working out long-term decreases, then of course the bar would be raised for what would be considered "worth it." It's basic effort/risk/reward. However I doubt it is quite that simple. I suspect that there are plenty of men and women who favor atypical modes of socializing who would be perfectly happy together but have…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/06/19 12:14 AM
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there is no place in the US where this is the case So glad I don't live in Canada.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 11:57 PM
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I think AWALT is horseshit and I don't subscribe to all the misogyny that they discuss. None of that is a core part of MGTOW. However there is certainly a sizeable and vocal contingent that does express those sorts of views, so I can't blame you for not wanting to be associated with them. If you dig a bit deeper I think you'll find some more thoughtful MGTOW who are past the rage phase and don't harbor ill will towards women. Not that you'll necessarily want to take on the label even then, but j…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 11:54 PM
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Thanks for the heads up, but I'm not concerned. When your conduct is beyond reproach there's nothing to fear.
/r/MGTOW229/06/19 10:56 PM
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Being fit has little to do with that, being slim, maybe, but being slim isn't about going to the gym, it's about eating correctly. I agree that diet is the more important for being lean, but a lot of men if they just leaned down would not have the most appealing body shape. Lifting weights definitely helps a man develop a body that will get noticed. Not to get huge, but just to shape his physique a bit. Anyway, I think that "going to the gym" is often kind of a shorthand for not only actually go…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 02:55 PM
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A guy doesn't have to get huge, in fact that's probably not the best approach. Just lean and fit. You may not think it's the most effective approach, but I have to say I've been surprised at just how differently I am treated by women when I wear tight shirts that show off how fit I am. Just the other day I had a woman who was walking her dog suddenly cross the street and double back to say hello to me after she saw me. I'm no male model, but I am lean and fit. You've got to consider the target a…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/06/19 02:50 PM
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Please take this sort of content to the other sub. Removed.
/r/MGTOW229/06/19 02:39 PM
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This sort of content is more appropriate for the other sub. Please take it there. Removed.
/r/MGTOW229/06/19 02:33 PM
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This is not the place for political discussions. They inevitably devolve into rule-breaking behavior, usually quite quickly. Please take it to a more appropriate sub. Removed.
/r/MGTOW228/06/19 11:30 PM
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No memes. Rule 3. Removed.
/r/MGTOW228/06/19 07:21 PM
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Although this is a worthwhile subject for discussion, this is not the place to do it. Please take it to a more appropriate sub. This is not the place to focus discussions on women or wage the culture war. Removed.
/r/MGTOW228/06/19 02:26 PM
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Removing this. We have a stickied post for this sort of discussion. Please take it there.
/r/MGTOW227/06/19 01:27 PM
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Do you believe that women can also transcend their own biological drive Yes. However her willingness to do this can change over time, so if she is having to push past her natural desires to choose to be with a man, that is tenuous at best. She can change her mind as soon as she gets bored. do you think it is our culture that is pushing more women towards following their base instincts? Yes, but of course it's doing the same to men. This reinforcement is probably stronger for women, but it is the…
/r/MGTOW227/06/19 03:59 AM
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Female attractiveness has nothing to do with the purpose of this sub. Probably more appropriate for the other sub. Removed.
/r/MGTOW227/06/19 01:17 AM
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WTF does this have to do with MGTOW? Aside from saying "go his own way" in the description there is nothing. Just some lonely simp putting pussy on a pedestal and sucking at online dating.
/r/MGTOW226/06/19 08:11 PM
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It's been a really long time since I read any of those books but this summarizes pretty well what I remember from them.
/r/MGTOW226/06/19 01:57 PM
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I knew someone wouldn't get my point. That wasn't sarcasm coming from me. I was completely serious. If going your own way looks different from others, I'm sure we'd all like to hear about it.
/r/MGTOW221/06/19 10:05 PM
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What if my idea of personal self-improvement is just burning my house down and going to live under a bridge? Make a post about it and let us know how it's working out.
/r/MGTOW221/06/19 07:56 PM
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I see like 3 more comments in my notifications but not in this post Are you sure they're not PMs? I haven't deleted anything nor do I see that anyone else has.
/r/MGTOW221/06/19 04:43 AM
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I've lost money, had my heart broke, been depressed, bought a shitty house with shitty neighbors and it's all because of her actions/cheating That's rough and I feel for you, but don't make yourself out to be a victim here. Shit happened. I lost a lot of opportunities too, and I'm not where I could be in my life if things had gone differently, but not because of a woman. It's just life. Shit happens. Work through it and whenever you're ready, let go of the blame and stop dwelling on it and just …
/r/MGTOW220/06/19 12:00 AM
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This is not appropriate content for this sub. Please take it to the other one.
/r/MGTOW219/06/19 11:54 PM
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Don't you think you guys would thrive more by talking about more positive and inspirational topics that encourage self-growth and mindfulness? Yes. That was the original intent of this sub and what I always wanted it to be. We do get that sort of content, but not as much as I'd like. I think that the main reason for this is that once a man reaches the point where he has fully digested the red pill and learned how to live well for himself, he tends to be focused on just living his life, and so he…
/r/MGTOW217/06/19 02:34 PM
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It's been a long, slow process of gaining ever increasing clarity that is still ongoing. I can't point to any single point or time frame as the beginning. I can say, however, that it started much later than I would have liked. My father was red-pilled as fuck and tried to teach me when I was young, but I believed others who told me he was wrong.
/r/MGTOW217/06/19 05:40 AM
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can someone tell me if Allie's video and Biblical views of masculinity line up with MGTOW philosophy? I didn't watch the whole video but from what I could tell they are orthogonal to one another. MGTOW is (to me at least) fundamentally about letting go of society's expectations of us and choosing for ourselves what we want our lives to be. Sure we all choose how we try to steer the directions of our lives, but many of us try to do so within the constraints placed on us by the norms of society. W…
/r/MGTOW217/06/19 05:36 AM
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i thought the rules allowed it Understandable since we don't have an official rule and although we did make a post about it, it was some time ago so of course you wouldn't have seen it. We're pretty relaxed around here though, so it's not a big deal. We do have to enforce certain rules but we don't ban people unless they are obvious trolls or repeated rule breakers.
/r/MGTOW216/06/19 08:16 PM
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I'm removing this. We're trying to avoid the drama that can come with these types of discussions. On top of that we had too many posts discussing the other sub and had to enact a soft rule disallowing them.
/r/MGTOW216/06/19 05:19 PM
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Removed for low-effort trolling.
/r/MGTOW216/06/19 02:51 PM
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Removed as off-topic for this sub.
/r/MGTOW216/06/19 02:50 PM
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My preferable places to sleep are large apartment complex parking lots. Don't they usually require parking permits? I'd think that if you took up one of the (sometimes in limited supply) visitor spots very often that would be noticed.
/r/MGTOW215/06/19 11:32 PM
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Have you tried messaging him or commenting on his videos to ask?
/r/MGTOW213/06/19 10:38 PM
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I still use my Gillette razor but with other-brand cartridges. I've done this since long before the ad just because their blades are ridiculously, insultingly expensive. I'm happy with the shave I get from the off-brand blades and it's a sweet bonus that Gillette hasn't gotten any of my money in years.
/r/MGTOW210/06/19 06:14 PM
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Is there an actual subreddit? If so how about a link? I see that you are a mod of /r/IncelClub. Is that the one? Might want to include the name next time.
/r/MGTOW208/06/19 09:02 PM
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You really think it’s a class issue? Do you really think the rate of incidence doesn't vary with class?
/r/PurplePillDebate07/06/19 10:39 PM
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A six-and-a-half minute clip from their conversation about the benefits of resting the mind, learning to be alone, and how meditation can serve these goals.
/r/MGTOW207/06/19 09:21 PM
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What is the legal situation like there? Anything like the family courts in the countries that are more commonly discussing MGTOW? Or is it easier to avoid getting trapped in a horrible situation? Is there maybe less need to go your own way there?
/r/MGTOW206/06/19 08:11 PM
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Can you give me your way of doing meditation? I don't remember what it's called. You might want to look at the book Mindfulness in Plain English, which can be bought in print or downloaded for free, or The Mind Illuminated (/r/themindilluminated).
/r/MGTOW206/06/19 05:16 PM
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Meditation helps. It's no panacea but it does help. Sexual thoughts feed on themselves, building momentum. The more you are in control of your mind, and the less you allow those thoughts to run away, the less you tend to get so caught up in it all. The desire will still be there and you'll still get caught up in fantasies sometimes, but it can bring it to a more manageable level. Unfortunately it can take some time to see the benefits of a daily meditation practice, but all the more reason to ge…
/r/MGTOW206/06/19 05:02 PM
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The way someone talks about MGTOW says a lot about that person I'm not sure that I agree. No doubt it's easy to do a decent amount of looking into MGTOW and get a very incomplete and/or skewed perspective, depending on where you look. After all there are plenty of men claiming to be MGTOW who fully embrace a lot of shitty beliefs, and are happy to shout them at anyone who will listen. It may require a decent amount of digging to really get a full picture and understand the more calm and rational…
/r/MGTOW205/06/19 02:00 AM
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Removed. This has nothing to do with MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW204/06/19 06:38 PM
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I'm removing this because it's not really a MGTOW topic. There are other subs, such as /r/mensrights, that are more appropriate for this sort of content.
/r/MGTOW230/05/19 02:49 PM
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OP are you actually looking to engage, or are you just attempting to farm karma? Your last post with the same youtube link was removed with a request in the future to "please include a brief synopsis of what is in the video and how you feel it relates to mgtow from the perspective of the sub." ...and here you post it again without a synopsis. Are you just misunderstanding what's being asked of you here? Put yourselves in the shoes of someone perusing the sub. They come across yet another youtube…
/r/MGTOW230/05/19 12:12 AM
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Removed.
/r/MGTOW228/05/19 05:47 AM
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This is not a good time in the history of humanity to be a romantic. Some would argue that there never was a good time. It's certainly true that female nature has always been as it is, but there have been periods in our history in which our societies have kept both male and female nature in check to a great enough degree that there has been some semblance of balance. Enough that things could work out well enough to be worth the trouble. We do not live in such a time. Life is hard. So naturally w…
/r/MGTOW227/05/19 05:04 PM
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If you're interested I'd recommend the book Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe. Great book on the fundamentals of weight training.
/r/MGTOW225/05/19 05:18 AM
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The bar weighs 45 pounds by itself. If you're at a gym with olympic bars this is true. If you've got an inexpensive home gym you're probably using the other type that only weigh around 10-15 pounds.
/r/MGTOW225/05/19 05:16 AM
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it seems to me that there are 2 reasons for the "hate" I agree with these and in particular: It's not a good idea to indulge anger. That sub seems to deify anger. While I agree that anger is a natural reaction to being red pilled, I think that the healthiest way forward is to move past it as quickly as possible. That sub seems to be about wallowing in the muck, and I don't think it's healthy. We have reams of psychological research showing that focusing on negativity will lead to more negative t…
/r/MGTOW222/05/19 05:14 PM
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we choose not to disclose our usernames. Well if he visits this sub he has yours now.
/r/MGTOW220/05/19 03:04 PM
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I am seeking to understand the intentional sexless life of some of mgtow men out here. The why and the how. Meditation is quite helpful here. Sexual desire is just a feeling, similar to other desires. I can avoid chasing women when I see appealing bodies the same as I can avoid eating unhealthy food when I see and smell a slice of pie. When these things strike the senses they inflame desire, but that desire can be allowed to rise and pass and it is just a transient sensation. The difficulty come…
/r/MGTOW220/05/19 02:56 AM
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I don't intend to argue against your conclusion but I do want to point out that there does seem to be some cause for hope that this sort of thing will change eventually. Although we've seen quite a number of cases like this one, where young men are kicked out of college due to an unsubstantiated false allegation, those same men often win when they sue the colleges. Most of those colleges are for-profit institutions, and even if the administration doesn't care about men, their self-interest in th…
/r/MGTOW219/05/19 05:40 PM
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tell me how to do that thing where you click the link and it goes to the exact timeslot If you're on mobile I don't know, but on a desktop if you pause the video at the moment you want you can right-click the video and an option is something like "Copy video URL at current time." Then of course you just use that link.
/r/MGTOW219/05/19 05:30 PM
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Removed.
/r/MGTOW219/05/19 03:14 PM
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Comment removed. /u/HatemTommy please take note of the sub rules and abide by them. That includes basic civility. Attack the idea, not the person.
/r/MGTOW217/05/19 09:32 PM
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There’s not a company in the world that can afford to leave talent on the sidelines because it’s female, Citation needed. It bears repeating that the #MeToo zealots shot themselves in the foot by shouting down people asking for there to be reasonable standards of evidence applied to accusations, and a presumption of innocence. In the absence of these things the only way for men to protect themselves is complete avoidance.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/05/19 05:50 PM
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Is this the one you're referring to? Why the fuck would you mention a video and not even provide a link? Seriously how hard is that?
/r/MGTOW217/05/19 06:31 AM
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I've enjoyed Zatoichi movies in the past but I didn't know that this one existed so it was a great reveal at the end. Put a huge smile on my face. I'll have to look for that one. Looks like a lot of fun. Thanks for sharing.
/r/MGTOW214/05/19 05:29 AM
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Sugar is a huge part of the story for a lot of people. I've always been naturally lean but I was shocked how much more I leaned down without trying once I finally kicked sugar. That includes fruit by the way, basically anything sweet.
/r/MGTOW214/05/19 05:27 AM
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This is content appropriate for the other sub, not here. Removed.
/r/MGTOW212/05/19 07:18 PM
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Women cannot be equal when they are denied the option to opt out of that decades-long financial burden Because men have the ability to opt out? Seems to me that banning abortion would be moving us closer to equality, so if that's really what feminists want, they should be all for it. But of course we know that's not what feminism is actually about. That's why she doesn't even realize what she's saying here. The lack of rights afforded to men in this area is not even in her sphere of awareness. I…
/r/MGTOW211/05/19 02:56 PM
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Please do not spam the channel with a bunch of videos. A link to the introduction would be enough. If people want to follow up from there they can. Removing most of these but I'm leaving the introduction up.
/r/MGTOW207/05/19 02:16 PM
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Please do not spam the channel with a bunch of videos. A link to the introduction would be enough. If people want to follow up from there they can. Removing most of these but I'm leaving the introduction up.
/r/MGTOW207/05/19 02:16 PM
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Please do not spam the channel with a bunch of videos. A link to the introduction would be enough. If people want to follow up from there they can. Removing most of these but I'm leaving the introduction up.
/r/MGTOW207/05/19 02:16 PM
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Please do not spam the channel with a bunch of videos. A link to the introduction would be enough. If people want to follow up from there they can. Removing most of these but I'm leaving the introduction up.
/r/MGTOW207/05/19 02:15 PM
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This is not appropriate content for this sub. Removed.
/r/MGTOW205/05/19 02:25 PM
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it seemed very relevant to MGTOW. Agreed. Thanks for sharing the link. I greatly enjoyed it.
/r/MGTOW204/05/19 06:49 PM
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It's a nice sentiment, but unrealistic. Things will have to get much worse before enough men will wake up to pull off something like you suggest.
/r/MGTOW202/05/19 01:19 AM
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Whatever's comfortable. There's no one to impress. It's glorious.
/r/MGTOW229/04/19 05:05 AM
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great wisdom, please repost on r/MGTOW Post it there only. It is not appropriate content for this sub. Removed.
/r/MGTOW228/04/19 02:25 PM
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Removing this due to its backward-facing focus on women.
/r/MGTOW227/04/19 03:26 PM
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Removing this. This content is more appropriate for other subs. Please take it there.
/r/MGTOW227/04/19 03:21 PM
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History is written by the victors, and MGTOW are not even in the fight, so you do the math.
/r/MGTOW226/04/19 04:37 AM
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Within months of meeting the man, who is clearly extremely wealthy, started paying all of her expenses, allowing her to quit working. They each had children from previous relationships and maintained separate residences to facilitate spending time with their children. The judge seemed to conclude that they probably would have lived together otherwise, and considering that the man was completely providing for the woman, it appeared very much as a traditional relationship. Not saying I agree, but …
/r/MGTOW226/04/19 04:35 AM
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That's a rather unusual case with unusual circumstances, not really applicable generally. Not something most men need to be concerned about. It's also worth mentioning that it's in Canada. Some areas there have pretty insane laws. For example: In British Columbia, an unmarried couple cohabiting for two years can make both spousal support and property claims against the other. I think if I was living in a place like that I'd either avoid dating, or move elsewhere. Canada is just mental with that …
/r/MGTOW225/04/19 09:58 PM
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Without a knowledge of psychology or a culture that shames behavior, it would be rare a female that does not allow her animalistic desires to control her Indeed, and this is what's so disappointing about the current state of our culture. We need those pressures to encourage us to rise above our animal natures because it's so damned difficult. We developed systems over centuries and even millennia that allowed civilization to function well and we've wantonly dismantled them over the last 50+ year…
/r/MGTOW224/04/19 06:27 PM
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As /u/GlobalAsshat said, it's just biology. Really seeing that clearly helped a lot. Many species of animals have behaviors similar to humans in their males and females, and as far as I understand it these behaviors emerged due to evolution because they were what allowed them to survive and reproduce. So however much I might not like certain things about women, I have to admit that if they weren't that way I might not be here. Surely in humanity's past there have been men and women who were diff…
/r/MGTOW224/04/19 02:54 PM
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No.
/r/MGTOW224/04/19 12:29 AM
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No.
/r/MGTOW224/04/19 12:28 AM
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Saved you a click Thanks for the summary. It would be quite helpful if OPs would provide this service. Might be too strict to make it a requirement but I'm half tempted.
/r/MGTOW222/04/19 10:20 PM
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Paying for pussy when others get it free Every man pays for it but the method of payment may not be as obvious to some. If all I want is sex I'd rather pay money than all the time and energy required to get a woman into bed otherwise. Not to mention the assurance that she'll go away and leave me alone without drama afterwards. ...and of course that's not taking into account the money I'd spend on dates anyway if trying to go the traditional route.
/r/MGTOW222/04/19 10:15 PM
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some men are unable to read normal human cues. Absolutely true but there is also a huge amount of variation in how clearly women express themselves, and their own perceptions of how clearly they are sending certain signals. This is why even a perfectly normal, perceptive man can get into trouble with the wrong woman. It's why respecting a "no" even if it seems like she is sending other contrary signals is the only safe thing for a man to do. If this means that some women end up disappointed, wel…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/19 07:25 AM
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I don't define MGTOW in that way. To me it's more just about putting yourself first. There are a number of situations which limit a man's ability to do that, and those are important to avoid: Marriage, children, and cohabitation. Beyond those, if a man can walk away at a moment's notice, and is prepared to do so if necessary to put his own interests first, then I would say he can be MGTOW. Have you ever had a motorcycle? I rode for years. Arguably a stupid choice considering how unsafe they are …
/r/MGTOW222/04/19 06:56 AM
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I saw the clip of that discussion. My impression is that Adam is refuting a claim that no one is making. It's easy to tear down strawmen. Joe is talking about the terms as they tend to actually be used while Adam is talking about something else. So I wouldn't disagree with Adam necessarily on the points he's making, but it's clear that he hasn't spent any time getting familiar with the real discussions people are having. That's about the extent of my thoughts on that. I don't waste my time on Ad…
/r/MGTOW219/04/19 02:20 PM
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Dogs are great, but if I were going to get another pet it would probably be a cat. They require much less maintenance. Litter boxes are a hassle, but perhaps with one of those mechanized ones it wouldn't be too bad. The great thing about cats is that you don't have to give them baths, nor do you have to walk them or be home to let them outside. Maybe if I had a house with a doggie door and a fenced yard so the dogs could more or less take care of themselves it would be okay. I just don't like th…
/r/MGTOW219/04/19 05:32 AM
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I want to apologize on behalf of my gender to all of you. It's unnecessary and pointless to do so. Our current situation could never have been possible if men did not eagerly get on board to make it so. It is what it is. Laying blame accomplishes nothing. I think that most of the steps that led our society to where it is today were undertaken by people with good intentions. They just did not respect the law of unintended consequences. The genie is now out of the bottle and there's no putting it …
/r/MGTOW219/04/19 05:15 AM
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Removing this due to an excess of overt negativity towards women. Take this sort of thing to the other sub please.
/r/MGTOW218/04/19 06:02 AM
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I don't know that I think of any of that stuff as childish necessarily. Plenty of adults enjoy those things. Just because children do as well doesn't make them childish. Don't buy into those kinds of judgments by people who want you to "grow up" so you can become a cog in a machine. I don't have much time for that sort of thing though. I'm too busy working on my career and such. I enjoy learning and I've come to favor spending my time on things that improve me in a lasting way over things that j…
/r/MGTOW217/04/19 07:38 PM
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Removing this for a backward-facing, negative focus on women.
/r/MGTOW217/04/19 02:41 PM
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Reads like it was written by a man. The phrasing, and also a little too on the nose.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/04/19 12:48 AM
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they just give them two weeks PAY, but have them out the same day. Immediately. I'd prefer having the pay with no work, honestly. Anyway they kind of have to shut down your access and escort you out the door as soon as you're notified. If I owned a company I'd do the same. There are too many crazy people who would seek revenge. If you gave them access to your systems after you told them you're getting rid of them they'd plot all kinds of ways to fuck your shit up. So it's perfectly understandabl…
/r/MGTOW217/04/19 12:37 AM
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I wonder if a religious exemption would allow for the creation of an all-male club like existed in the old days before feminists forced their way in.
/r/MGTOW217/04/19 12:32 AM
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Removed because spam.
/r/MGTOW216/04/19 02:08 AM
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This reeks of nihilism I think it's more realism. I am not rich, nor a politician. I am well aware that I have no significant power or influence in the world to speak of. That doesn't mean that I couldn't do things, but I can be realistic about my level of ability to effect change in the world relative to the scope of the issues at hand. Like I said, I think that there are natural cycles, and there are people working hard to move us in a positive direction who possess much more capacity to do so…
/r/MGTOW213/04/19 03:13 PM
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I want a solution to that and I don't see mgtow looking for one. Spoken like an MRA. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but that's not what MGTOW is. I certainly don't speak for all MGTOW, but I know that there are quite a few who don't believe that there's much to be done, nor that it is their responsibility. Personally I do think that the efforts that people make to bring change make a difference, but it's a small one. I'm not about to dive in front of a steam roller just to slow it do…
/r/MGTOW213/04/19 05:48 AM
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Removing this. Please take this sort of content to a more appropriate sub.
/r/MGTOW211/04/19 10:25 PM
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The article has nothing to do with Ben Shapiro. It also conflates the idea of a "good man" with an attractive one. She's looking for attractive men to fuck, not good men. The author is really stretching to use it as an opportunity to make an unrelated point. How is this MGTOW content?
/r/MGTOW211/04/19 02:14 PM
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Any advice on getting started? I know fuck all about meditation. Kind of depends on where you're coming from. In my experience the majority of meditation books and online guides originate from Buddhist practices. Of course you don't need to be a Buddhist to use them, but I don't know if that would be an issue for you. Some people have a strong distaste for anything that smacks of religion. Buddhism is not a religion in the same way that Christianity or the other Abrahamic religions are, but stil…
/r/MGTOW210/04/19 05:37 AM
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Meditation. Stick with it long enough to gain some increased awareness of the workings of your own mind, and as a result greater control, and I suspect that you will be surprised at how much of that runaway desire you think is uncontrollable or unchangeable is actually a result of thoughts that you can learn to control. It takes dedication to stick with it long enough to begin to see the benefits, but once you do it tends to become more self-reinforcing. It is an invaluable tool for self-mastery…
/r/MGTOW210/04/19 12:31 AM
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who would be more productive/happier in this day and age. A guy that has a loving wife that supports him in his every goal OR a guy that has his shit together and is just too damn busy for a woman. I think that's hard to generalize about in a truly meaningful way. First there is the question of whether the loving, supportive wife is truly those things and will remain that way. That can never be known with complete certainty, so the question is already an academic thought experiment more than any…
/r/MGTOW210/04/19 12:25 AM
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the average woman is delusional, solipsistic, and lacks self awareness Removing this for negative generalizations about women, as well as a backward-facing focus on women.
/r/MGTOW210/04/19 12:01 AM
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This is not MGTOW content. Might be appreciated in 1. Please take it there.
/r/MGTOW209/04/19 04:34 PM
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Removing this. Not MGTOW content.
/r/MGTOW208/04/19 12:32 PM
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For men who have never had any other desire than to go their own way it may be as you describe. However I think that many MGTOW end up here less from a fundamental desire and more from necessity. They would have that other life if it were available. That's why some struggle with acceptance in the beginning. It's hard letting go of such a deeply held desire.
/r/MGTOW207/04/19 09:41 PM
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It gets attention from horny boys. Yeah I saw plenty of that when I was younger and partying. Lots of women you could tell weren't really all that into other women but they played it to the max because it got them attention. It made them sexy and cool and maybe they would make out occasionally but you'd pretty much only see them going home with guys.
/r/MGTOW206/04/19 04:47 AM
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"oh ... so you're sad 'cause you got dumped? Want sum fuk?" Well the OP in that case gave very little information other than her own impressions of what happened. It could very easily be her being upset combined with the typical (nowadays) view of male sexuality as toxic. It may be that some of the men were indeed interested in a relationship, but because sex came up in any way she presumed that's all they cared about. This sort of misunderstanding seems to be quite common. So many women just do…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 05:10 PM
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why do women believe that a male friend asking her out or making a move (after a breakup) is some nefarious thing? I can certainly understand being upset if I came to suspect that a friend never actually cared about my friendship and was just hanging around looking for the opportunity to fuck me. However that's not necessarily what's going on, and many of the responses in that thread show a marked lack of empathy and charity. Hating on men and presuming the worst of them is common and even celeb…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/04/19 04:57 PM
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I don't think trying to just "willpower" your way through is effective at all. Better to eat healthy foods that leave you feeling satisfied. If you're always feeling deprived it's only a matter of time before you give in to temptation. Others have suggested low carb and if you haven't tried that it may be worth a go for you. Another thing to consider is not avoiding carbs but avoiding unhealthy carbs. That's really any kind of refined carbohydrates. So sugar is #1 to avoid, but also most things …
/r/MGTOW202/04/19 06:13 AM
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High carb and low fat diets not only cause obesity The problem is not carbs, but refined carbs. Plenty of populations throughout the world eat diets high in complex, unrefined carbs without getting fat.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/04/19 03:02 PM
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I wonder if a man had done this if the text on the screen would be "Father who put kids in freezer sentenced to life without parole" as we see here, or something more like "Father who brutally tortured kids to death and stored their bodies in freezer sentenced to life without parole". My bet is the latter. I don't know why I'm still disappointed by this sort of thing, I should be used to it by now.
/r/MensRights01/04/19 02:04 PM
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reducing the risk of transmitting STI's like HIV by up to 60% (sauce: world health organization, google it). Yes please do google it, but go past the first hit. You'll find that it's a load of bullshit. Not true at all.
/r/MGTOW231/03/19 10:32 PM
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I don't want to steal subscribers from here or anything I don't see it as a competition. If someone finds another sub that better suits their interests and chooses to spend their time there, they go with my best wishes. This is meant to be a positive home for MGTOW. It's not an ego-driven competition. You are free to mention your sub.
/r/MGTOW231/03/19 10:29 PM
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This isn’t constructive to the discussion whatsoever Your comment? Agreed.
/r/MGTOW229/03/19 01:26 AM
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If you had paused for a moment to look you might have noticed the stickied thread devoted to this sort of discussion. Please take it there.
/r/MGTOW228/03/19 09:28 PM
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No human is perfect. All humans are deeply flawed. Indeed. Men have our issues, women have theirs. We're not actually all that different. Our fundamental drives are the same, they just get expressed differently. It's all tribalism. Men complain about women, women complain about men. The men bitching stands out more because man-hating feminists have normalized hatred of men to such an extent that most people don't even notice how pervasive and common it is. But if female nature were really that c…
/r/MGTOW228/03/19 05:46 PM
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Hypergamy is an instinct, just like a man's instinct to fuck as many women as he can. Not every man tries to be a "player", acting on the instinct to the best of his ability, but every man has it. Humans have a lot of instincts that could easily tear civilization apart if they were not controlled. We used to have social norms and contracts that helped us to control our baser desires and maintain a healthy society. These have been progressively dismantled in recent decades. If you look out into o…
/r/MGTOW228/03/19 03:45 PM
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This content is more appropriate for 1, or maybe a PUA or TRP sub. Please take it there.
/r/MGTOW227/03/19 04:02 AM
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Please confine this sort of content to the mega-thread for that purpose.
/r/MGTOW225/03/19 09:13 PM
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This does not belong in this sub.
/r/MGTOW225/03/19 09:11 PM
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Well I believe that there are some good women out there, but not a lot, and as you said, most are probably already in relationships. But the main problem is how can you reliably recognize one when you meet her? MGTOW forums are full of stories of men who thought they'd found one and then got badly burned. There don't seem to be any reliable heuristic techniques for vetting prospective partners. So if you want to continue seeking a partner you're going to have to figure that out for yourself. Reg…
/r/MGTOW225/03/19 02:19 PM
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The standards aren't unreasonable when they do eventually and inevitably marry and have children. I've seen many women who gradually (or sometimes quite suddenly) lower their standards as they become more desirous of marriage and especially children. So the fact that they eventually manage to attain these things is not an indication that their standards were reasonable. They could have gotten an earlier start and saved themselves years of loneliness and heartache if they'd set reasonable expecta…
/r/PurplePillDebate22/03/19 02:37 PM
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Please confine discussions of bannings to the thread dedicated to that purpose.
/r/MGTOW222/03/19 02:00 PM
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The main thing for me is to recognize that there are a lot of shitty people out there. It's not a gendered thing. For every horror story you can share about the way women in your life have behaved there are plenty of women with similar stories about men. People have a tendency to be selfish, self-centered, and self-absorbed. Our current culture encourages this, especially in women, so this tendency is drawn out and amplified. As for the feminism thing, I believe that we are in a difficult period…
/r/MGTOW220/03/19 08:20 PM
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Please stop with the PUA content. This is not the sub for that.
/r/MGTOW220/03/19 02:38 PM
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My content may have been borderline. Indeed it is and I want you to feel welcome here to express yourself. What pushed it over the top for me was the negative generalizations to all women.
/r/MGTOW220/03/19 02:37 PM
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I'm removing this because it's overly focused on women in a negative way. Please take it to a sub that's more appropriate.
/r/MGTOW220/03/19 01:28 PM
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This is not appropriate content for this sub. This is not a PUA sub. Please take it to where it belongs.
/r/MGTOW220/03/19 01:24 PM
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This is not appropriate content for this sub. Please take it to 1.
/r/MGTOW220/03/19 01:22 PM
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Why do you think US men are less concerned than in 2017 about sexual harassment? I suspect that a lot of it is the growing mountain of examples of women using the movement for personal gain. Men are seeing over and over women lying and destroying men's careers and lives with no evidence and no repercussions. Just an accusation is enough, and they know it could happen to them. So it's gotten to the point that instead of meeting new accusations with empathy, the default reaction becomes skepticism…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/03/19 05:26 PM
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He made a GoFundMe to buy things for the park and used it to buy a house for himself? That stuck out to me as well but it's worth looking at the stated purpose of the page: The kind words and support is very much appreciated and these donations will go directly to Mr. Peeples to be used at his discretion. The description also mentions his lost wages and legal costs, so as long as the people donating read it, hopefully they were fully aware where their money was going to go.
/r/MensRights14/03/19 10:59 PM
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They have a hair trigger on the ban button over there and they refuse to engage in any discussion unless you completely agree with them. Toe the feminist party line precisely or get banned. I think that if you managed to get a mod to explain themselves they'd probably say that they get so much misogynistic harassment that they have zero tolerance for anything that resembles the typical crap they see. Of course what that means is that they're not open to new information or having their beliefs ch…
/r/MGTOW214/03/19 05:57 AM
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Please just quit it.
/r/MGTOW213/03/19 02:41 PM
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Please keep the culture war out of this sub. There is no shortage of subs where people are eager to engage with this sort of content. Please take it there.
/r/MGTOW206/03/19 05:26 AM
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Please keep the culture war out of this sub. There is no shortage of subs where people are eager to engage with this sort of content. Please take it there.
/r/MGTOW206/03/19 05:25 AM
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What do you guys consider "women-hating"? It's subjective, of course. I look at whether the content of a post is generalizing about women in a negative way. Talking about female nature is fine. Saying that all women are evil harpies who exist to devour men's souls is not. The line is somewhere in between, and it requires a tough judgment call sometimes. It is possible to be completely red-pilled without hating women or even having any negative feelings about them. Speaking the truth is fine here…
/r/MGTOW205/03/19 04:22 PM
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I kicked my addiction when the MMO I was playing got shut down. Countless hours (seriously) put into creating in that world, all taken away in a moment. That taught me not to devote my energies to a world controlled by others, where the fruits of my labors can be arbitrarily taken away. Sound familiar? A very MGTOW-affirming experience. I decided that I would put that energy into building things that will last, and that are under my control. Out here, in the real world. Realize that video games …
/r/MGTOW205/03/19 05:20 AM
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Please take this conversation to the stickied mega-thread. It was created to keep these discussions from filling up the sub. Thank you.
/r/MGTOW205/03/19 05:11 AM
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It might be of interest to some MGTOW but how does it contribute to a man going his own way? I realize the distinction is subjective but please remember that the original purpose of this sub is to be for MGTOW who have left the drama behind and are just living their lives in a positive way. Does that video fit?
/r/MGTOW205/03/19 05:10 AM
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Please keep youtube drama out of this sub.
/r/MGTOW204/03/19 10:50 PM
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This is content more appropriate for the other sub. Please take it there.
/r/MGTOW204/03/19 08:08 PM
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There's a reason sex researchers came up with the term "MSM"
/r/MensRights02/03/19 04:31 AM
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Maybe their timing was bad It wouldn't have been bad if she were into him. In my younger days a friend I'd been into for a while broke up with her abusive boyfriend and being the chivalrous young man that I was I decided the right thing to do was give her time to get over him before putting a move on her. Next thing I knew she was dating another friend. All those women complaining about how horrible it is that those guys made a move are only upset because they were unattractive guys who didn't k…
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/03/19 09:20 PM
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Removing this as not appropriate content for this sub. Might want to try it in the other sub.
/r/MGTOW226/02/19 10:29 PM
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Not appropriate content for this sub. Removed.
/r/MGTOW225/02/19 07:49 PM
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Not appropriate content for this sub. Removed.
/r/MGTOW225/02/19 07:49 PM
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As another commenter said, this is content more appropriate for other subs. Removed.
/r/MGTOW225/02/19 03:13 PM
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This is not MGTOW content. Removed.
/r/MGTOW223/02/19 10:42 PM
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Save this shit for TRP. Removed.
/r/MGTOW221/02/19 02:56 PM
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Come on now, why are you posting this here? Removed.
/r/MGTOW221/02/19 02:55 PM
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Because we ended up with too many different posts with people complaining about being banned from the other sub. I created a mega-thread to contain those discussions. Please take your discussion there.
/r/MGTOW221/02/19 02:49 PM
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There are plenty of men over in the other sub who think the same sorts of things about women. There are white people who hate blacks, blacks who hate whites, etc., etc., etc. I'd say just focus on yourself and try to let go of worrying about what others think. There will always be hateful people, and crazy ones, too. Just live your life. If you absorb the negativity others try to project at you, it will be an unpleasant life.
/r/MGTOW220/02/19 08:13 PM
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I am removing this. Please take this to the stickied post at the top of the sub.
/r/MGTOW220/02/19 08:07 PM
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This is not MGTOW content. Removed.
/r/MGTOW220/02/19 02:51 PM
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Plus you sit on your ass 15 hours a day. Good point. It's not good for your health. Great if you like listening to podcasts I guess.
/r/MGTOW219/02/19 03:37 PM
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I'm going to try and get a truck driver's certificate That could be decent pay in the short term, but those jobs are in the process of being automated away, so expect to have to move on to something different eventually.
/r/MGTOW219/02/19 03:30 PM
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I've always been a FWB type person and this is the first time I've been committed seriously in a relationship. Well you're concerned about her, and rightly so, but what about yourself? You have never prioritized commitment and now suddenly you caught feelings and feel ready to have a go. Most of the time it's not that easy to change long-established patterns. So yeah she might revert to her old ways, but so might you. Wait until the honeymoon period is over and see if you don't start getting bor…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 08:55 PM
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or 2) they will relapse. This would be my largest concern. Working to make positive changes is great and all, but for a lot of people it doesn't take right away. It takes a number of cycles of messing up and trying to improve to get there. I wouldn't want to be the guy she makes her mistakes on along the way. I do believe that people can grow and change, but if I were going to take a chance on someone like OP describes, I'd want to see a long-established pattern of those changes being fully inte…
/r/PurplePillDebate13/02/19 08:40 PM
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This is not MGTOW content. Maybe ask this question over at TRP.
/r/MGTOW213/02/19 07:04 PM
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Who cares? What does this have to do with MGTOW?
/r/MGTOW212/02/19 11:53 PM
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Removing this. No memes.
/r/MGTOW212/02/19 09:10 PM
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Removing this.
/r/MGTOW211/02/19 03:25 AM
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Removing this. Not MGTOW content.
/r/MGTOW211/02/19 03:22 AM
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It's fairly open to MGTOW-related topics but without the hate. I do try to keep down the amount of political, MRA-style stuff. Same with pickup-related topics. There are subs dedicated to those things for people who want that. This sub is for MGTOW and the content should be in some way of particular interest to such men. There's a lot of grey area of course. I wish I could provide clear guidance with hard lines but things aren't that neat and tidy, unfortunately.
/r/MGTOW210/02/19 11:25 PM
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Not much to go on but my first guess is that she's lonely and looking for some interaction. Do you avoid her generally? She may see that as a rare opportunity to connect with you.
/r/MGTOW210/02/19 04:29 AM
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in the same way that when you walk into work, all the noises you know and associate with your workplace wake you up and get you ready for the day. Not everyone is like this though. I have never felt that way. I want to work in peace, and the noise was never welcome. I suspect it would be the same with kids. Different people are built differently, and not everyone will adjust to enjoy the chaos.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 03:59 PM
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Don't want kids? Fine, but don't expect mine to pay the taxes to support your old ass. Well if you want to go down that road then why are my taxes helping to pay for schools when I don't have any children? Let the parents pay for schools. Not to mention all the other services and supports parents and children get from the system. Working childless people pay a lot more into the system than they get out of it. When I'm old your kids, and everyone else's, can damn sure pay me back.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/19 03:37 PM
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Removing this. There is a stickied post for this sort of content. Please take it there.
/r/MGTOW209/02/19 06:19 AM
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Removing this.
/r/MGTOW208/02/19 04:04 PM
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saw that it wasn't what I thought it was. I'm not sure I completely follow. What did you think it was, and how do you understand it now?
/r/MGTOW207/02/19 05:52 AM
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To me more than anything it is about becoming a complete being, self-contained. Generating validation internally rather than seeking it externally. This is why we go our own way, and why we can go our own way. Because we don't need others in order to feel that we have value. TFM released a video a short while back which covers this somewhat. Most of us were raised with certain ideas that we just absorbed without questioning. Get a good job, marry a good woman, have a family, raise them in a nice…
/r/MGTOW207/02/19 04:31 AM
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A lot of things seem to be feeding into a decline of our civilization, but then again each generation thinks that and we're still here. That provides no guarantee that there isn't a genuine problem, but it's hard to say. It's a complex system and I certainly can't predict how things will turn out. Humans are very adaptable, but we have limits. Ultimately we'll all just have to wait to see how it turns out. I guess I'm selfish, because I don't really care all that much. I mean I'm interested, sur…
/r/MGTOW206/02/19 09:11 PM
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Great link. Thanks for sharing it.
/r/MGTOW206/02/19 02:40 AM
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Removing this. This is not a political sub.
/r/MGTOW205/02/19 09:34 PM
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Let's keep the outrage porn out of this sub, please. This is not MGTOW content.
/r/MGTOW205/02/19 09:32 PM
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Removing this. No memes or similar please.
/r/MGTOW204/02/19 09:40 PM
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I do this as well and I highly recommend encrypting it somehow. After I started doing this it became clear that I had been holding back out of some concern in the back of my mind that someone might someday get access and read it. Once I started encrypting it I was free to express myself fully. I use an encrypted volume so I can create a new file for each entry, but to each their own. I agree that it can be helpful to get out thoughts that I can't discuss with anyone in my life. I find that certa…
/r/MGTOW204/02/19 04:57 AM
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No one can criticize a man for posting on a men's rights forum You must not spend much time on left-leaning subs.
/r/MGTOW203/02/19 03:52 PM
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Removing this. Please keep this kind of low-effort non-MGTOW content out of this sub.
/r/MGTOW203/02/19 01:49 AM
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Removing this as duplicate and off-topic for the sub.
/r/MGTOW202/02/19 07:14 PM
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Removing this as off-topic for the sub.
/r/MGTOW202/02/19 07:13 PM
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Removing this as off-topic for this sub.
/r/MGTOW202/02/19 07:07 PM
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Haven't had a chance to watch the video yet so hopefully I'm not too off base here, but just want to comment on the PUA thing. Question for you guys... Why the hate for PUAs? I mean, I sort of get it, but not completely. I look at it this way: If a man can go his own way and still date provided that he is still focused on himself, generating his validation internally, and not losing himself in any relationship, they what's the distinction between MGTOW and PUAs? I mean sure, a lot of PUAs are pr…
/r/MGTOW201/02/19 10:58 PM
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Removing this as irrelevant content.
/r/MGTOW230/01/19 07:09 AM
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relationships do lead to happiness I'm no expert, but my understanding of the research that's been done on happiness is that this is not true. A relationship is a positive factor contributing to happiness, but by itself it does not lead to happiness, and it is entirely possible to be happy without one. This is why the extreme focus incels place on sex and relationships is unhealthy. They ignore all the other avenues available to them.
/r/MGTOW230/01/19 12:06 AM
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I want to know if you guys think incels should just go MGTOW I think that they would benefit greatly if they truly embraced the philosophy. The main shift there is from seeking external validation to internal validation. Plenty of MGTOW will offer their experiences showing that neither sex nor relationships lead to happiness. Sure we all crave connection and intimacy, and those things are important, but they aren't magic. Look at the number of PUAs and "players" who got tired of the game and set…
/r/MGTOW229/01/19 10:29 PM
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Indeed. There is a shadow side to femininity, and we need to be aware of that, but we don't have to demonize women for it. There is a shadow side to masculinity as well but we don't go around saying all men are worthless. Other parts of society do that, but we don't need to mirror their dysfunction. We men have our problems, and women have theirs. In an ideal world we would balance each other out. Complement each other. We don't live in that world, and as things are there is a focus on problems …
/r/MGTOW229/01/19 10:19 PM
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Who knows? My best guess would be fatherlessness. Nothing to do but hope more men find the information that's increasingly available. More importantly, why worry about guys like that? They will always exist. What you see there is a great opportunity for him to be red-pilled. However it looks like he is planning to just move on, still hoping that his nice guy play will pay out eventually. It's just a specific example of a more general phenomenon. People who refuse to open their eyes and thereby c…
/r/MGTOW229/01/19 08:45 AM
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Removing this as non-MGTOW content.
/r/MGTOW229/01/19 08:38 AM
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The second half will probably only be of interest to those of you familiar with TFM. More like everything after the first 5%. After that it's all a bunch of internal drama. I'm giving DDJ the benefit of the doubt that he tried to address these matters in private and only made the video as a last resort, and that he's not just drama whoring. If that's the case then I think he deserves respect for the effort. It can be really tough to go all out like that to try to reach a friend who has lost thei…
/r/MGTOW229/01/19 06:22 AM
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Removing this as off-topic for this sub.
/r/MGTOW226/01/19 04:42 PM
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Removing this as off-topic for this sub.
/r/MGTOW226/01/19 08:06 AM
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I always enjoy his videos and this one was certainly fun, but it's strange to me that he's chosen this particular hobby horse. I don't quite get it. I'm sure he must be aware that all the information we have shows that a traditional family structure with a full-time parent leads to the best outcome for children. So really if I were going to have children and wanted them to have the best possible chance in life, I would want to have a stay-at-home mother look after them. Sure maybe it's economica…
/r/MGTOW225/01/19 10:51 PM
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I am removing this as non-MGTOW content.
/r/MGTOW225/01/19 04:30 PM
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I've usually seen this explained as compatible crazy. Her crazy meshes with yours. So for example if she was ignored a lot by her father and so she learned that's what male love looks like, she'll (subconsciously) look for aloof, distant guys. Same for you. There's something in you that connects with some quality in those women. If you were to try to describe what flavor of crazy is common to the women you go for, what would it be? Then try to see how that fits with you, and if it relates to you…
/r/MGTOW225/01/19 07:43 AM
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You alone must decide what is acceptable risk to your life, career and property. Indeed, and I'm not advocating for cohabitation. I'd be unlikely to ever consider it, but if I did I'd probably try to make sure the lease was in her name alone so that I could still walk away at any time without complications. Really all I'm saying is that to me the message of the video is overstated. It seems to be that almost any interaction with a woman could be fraught with danger. There is some risk, but I gue…
/r/MGTOW225/01/19 01:24 AM
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I'm not a lawyer but I think he's very much overstating things. Sure the things he talks about may be possible, but how likely are they really? I'm sure they happen to people, but out of all the tons of guys I know who have cohabitated with women repeatedly throughout their lives, it's happened to none of them. The video seems a bit paranoid to me. I don't want to try to live in a bubble my whole life. There has to be a certain amount of acceptable risk.
/r/MGTOW224/01/19 11:06 PM
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Low quality content, not low quality video.
/r/MGTOW221/01/19 06:19 AM
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I'm removing this because it is such low quality.
/r/MGTOW221/01/19 06:16 AM
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To me one of the key elements that makes up MGTOW is that we seek internal validation. A corollary of that is that we put ourselves first. A big problem that many MGTOW have had in the past before they woke up was putting the woman first in a relationship. Self-sacrifice comes naturally to men which is a positive quality but it can cause huge problems when applied erroneously in this way. Many MGTOW will require a period of monk mode after the anger phase in which they work intensely on self-act…
/r/MGTOW220/01/19 05:46 PM
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The creation of this sub was originally inspired by a video by Life After Women about "MGTOW 2.0". The video has since been removed. I don't know why. The idea was that once men have moved well past the anger phase and have stopped focusing on women, they are ready for MGTOW 2.0, just focusing on themselves, moving forward with positivity and living a good life. With the 1.0 sub getting so weird and ban-happy I've relaxed things a bit to make it more inclusive for those who have left there and w…
/r/MGTOW220/01/19 08:54 AM
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enslaving, brainwashing, and raping women. Well I'm not sure if we're talking about the same thing here. What I mean by that term is that there was social pressure for people to marry and have children, and stay in their marriages even when things got difficult. This affected both men and women. It had both positive and negative aspects, as does our current situation. Men who don't want a "married with children" life benefit from the current system, just as women do. Many of those same men would…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 07:35 AM
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Good god, man. Do you have some long list of posts to reference, cross-indexed by keyword or something? I don't know how some of you guys bust out these old references all the time like that.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 03:29 AM
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Why does this have to be this way? Seriously? Isn't that RP 101? Women like a certain kind of man because of biology. They evolved that way. The problem is, most men aren't the kind of men women find attractive. This was more or less okay back when we had culturally enforced monogamy. In modern times with hypergamy unleashed a man has to choose to either pretend to be someone he isn't, or accept singlehood. So why does it have to be this way? Because that's just how we humans are built. You can …
/r/PurplePillDebate19/01/19 03:08 AM
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Removing this as off-topic for this sub.
/r/MGTOW218/01/19 12:36 AM
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the at home test doesn't do anything to fix that. Well yeah they are not legally admissible evidence, but they can be done in secret. That's the value. A man who has doubts about the paternity of "his" child can verify it without alerting the mother to his concerns, and can thereby avoid a potential nuclear war over it. If the test shows that he is the father, he can shred it and she never has to even know he has any doubts. If it shows that he's not, then yeah he'll have to get another, proper …
/r/MensRights14/01/19 05:57 AM
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what's wrong about being a man-child? Depends on how you define it, but in most cases I'd say: Nothing. It's mostly just a shaming tactic used by those who are searching for a way to bring men back to the plantation. Why should I grow anyway? Based on my own experience I'd say because it leads to a more satisfying and fulfilled life. You certainly don't need to do it for anyone else but it is worth doing for yourself.
/r/MGTOW214/01/19 02:41 AM
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Censorship doesn’t change anything It keeps this sub on topic according to the rules. You are welcome to share your views in an appropriate forum.
/r/MGTOW214/01/19 01:31 AM
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Apparently I'm not welcome here for even asking the question. Sorry to disturb you. Well I hope you haven't gotten that impression from me. I got a report on your post but I left it because it seemed fine to me to ask what you did. Might have been better as a PM, but either way.
/r/MGTOW214/01/19 01:29 AM
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I'll admit that I could be better about keeping on top of reports at times. However based on the discussion I'm seeing in this thread, it doesn't look to me like there's much evidence for racism and anti-semitism being a problem here currently. If you perceive a problem and don't see appropriate action being taken you can always message me directly. Even if I don't take action, at least we can have a discussion about the issue and hopefully come to some resolution.
/r/MGTOW214/01/19 01:20 AM
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Removing this as against the rules.
/r/MGTOW214/01/19 01:15 AM
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Removing this.
/r/MGTOW214/01/19 01:13 AM
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Removing this as off-topic for this sub.
/r/MGTOW213/01/19 08:05 AM
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Ultimately we just have to get over it and learn to not require external validation. In my opinion this is the core of MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW212/01/19 08:37 PM
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Removing this as off-topic for this sub.
/r/MGTOW211/01/19 04:22 PM
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How is it low-effort? I have a couple of paragraphs lol. I also included links. If so then I apologize. I am not seeing any of that, just the heading. Might be a bug but I looked at it with multiple browsers.
/r/MGTOW211/01/19 04:21 AM
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I'm removing this not because of subject matter but because it's a low-effort post. Unless I'm not seeing it there is no body to your post, just the heading.
/r/MGTOW211/01/19 02:14 AM
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This is a good reason not to discuss women on this subreddit. I'm going to disagree with you there, but I applaud your attempt to push your agenda with "evidence." I'm content to do what I believe is right and let the chips fall where they may. Do anything on the internet and there will be people judging you for it. Allow them to decide for you how you will conduct yourself and you might as well just retire to a cabin in the woods.
/r/MGTOW210/01/19 11:06 PM
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Are female lurkers discouraged? Why would you care? No one knows if you're lurking and no one can stop you if you want to do it.
/r/MGTOW210/01/19 09:02 PM
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Stardusk did a video about this.
/r/MGTOW210/01/19 02:56 AM
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Removing this as off-topic for this sub.
/r/MGTOW209/01/19 11:14 PM
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Removing this as off-topic for this sub.
/r/MGTOW209/01/19 11:13 PM
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What are you on about? It says in the article he started Amazon shortly after they got married. I don't know about his circumstances at the time but surely he wasn't one of the richest men in the world when she chose him.
/r/MGTOW209/01/19 09:10 PM
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I agree, but as /u/SelfRighteousKnobEnd said, it will probably go the other way. A guy like that seems unlikely to learn a lesson about the true meaning of Christmas from an event like that. More likely he'll double-down and find new ways to squeeze the working class for pennies.
/r/MGTOW209/01/19 05:59 PM
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is everyone terrified of saying anything bad about women? I can't speak for everyone, but one of the reasons that I avoid indulging in negativity is that I've seen how it harms me. Focusing on what's wrong in life for too long can lead to a downward spiral into depression. This is one of the central ideas behind cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT), the only psychological therapeutic method that has consistently shown efficacy in studies. It's fine to go through the anger phase as necessary, but p…
/r/MGTOW208/01/19 04:18 PM
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I hope that your new sub can be a home for MGTOW and a welcome place for those who find this sub to be too constricting or not what they're looking for. If I can help in any way please let me know.
/r/MGTOW208/01/19 04:10 PM
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I understand and respect that some MGTOW prefer to minimize (or ideally eliminate) interactions with women. However that's neither desirable nor practical for many of us. We have women in our lives that we interact with, and some of us are happy to have it that way. We need to get along with the other 50% of the human population and it's worth discussing matters relating to that. It may even be helpful to occasionally get feedback from some of them. Additionally, if a woman comments here because…
/r/MGTOW208/01/19 03:59 PM
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Removing this as inappropriate for this sub.
/r/MGTOW208/01/19 07:44 AM
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I just need some sources of MGTOW content that will help me get a baseline understanding for how to begin building my own expectations for myself. It's hard to know what to recommend. Different things resonate with different people at different parts of their journey. However if you haven't seen it you might have a look at TFM's red pill grief cycle series (5 parts in total). I think it's in part 2 that he recommends a number of other content creators, so it might be a good jumping off point. Un…
/r/MGTOW208/01/19 04:19 AM
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Removed as off-topic for this sub.
/r/MGTOW208/01/19 04:12 AM
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If you don't meditate I'd consider starting. However do be aware that trying to make too many changes often leads to failure with many or all of them. We are creatures of habit and too much disruption is difficult to manage. It's easier to succeed by doing things more gently.
/r/MGTOW207/01/19 03:22 PM
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Removing this. Let's keep this type of politics and outrage porn out of this sub.
/r/MGTOW207/01/19 07:08 AM
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Removing this as off-topic for the sub.
/r/MGTOW207/01/19 07:08 AM
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Removing this as off-topic for the sub.
/r/MGTOW206/01/19 09:55 PM
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I tend to agree with the viewpoint that meaning is not something to be found but rather something one creates. There was some discussion of this in the chat between HuMAN and TFM. Even so, I don't really live my life with a focus on meaning. I suppose my beliefs provide some of that, but mostly I am pragmatic. I think that when one is unhappy the question of meaning looms large, and when one is satisfied in life it doesn't tend to come up. I focus more on biological human needs and meeting them …
/r/MGTOW206/01/19 04:23 PM
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Wow what a thoughtful, compassionate, and well-considered response. Are you new around here? Hopefully you don't get driven out.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/01/19 10:14 PM
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Unpopular opinion: Being in the rage phase and venting it on MGTOW1 is fine in the context that men rarely get this ooprtunity elsewhere. I'm not sure that it's all that unpopular around here. However I think that encouraging it is a mistake. I'm not saying that people who are angry shouldn't be encouraged to discuss their anger and its underlying causes. I am saying that the constant focus on negativity over on that sub is counterproductive and only helps hold people in that state and keeps the…
/r/MGTOW204/01/19 07:47 PM
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u/supernumiphone can we get a mega thread set up for MGTOW posts? Done. From this point forward separate posts on the subject will be removed.
/r/MGTOW204/01/19 03:04 PM
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How many people have found good women after initially having bad relationships? Well considering where you are, don't expect to get many replies on this. is dating them and having fun with them somehow bad? The best advice I've seen for dating as a MGTOW is to always be ready to walk away at a moment's notice. Have fun as long as you want, but always put yourself first. However you have to be able to be brutally honest with yourself about your own feelings. Too many men let themselves get caught…
/r/MGTOW204/01/19 07:25 AM
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overcoming shit tests and holding frame, it will eventually feel like wiping your ass. Ask some gay guys who stayed in the closet how long they had to live that lie before it felt perfectly fine and comfortable. There's a fundamental difference between those things.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 05:45 AM
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Yes brushing your teeth and wiping your ass corrodes your soul. I don't know about you but when I do either of those things it doesn't feel like I'm forcing myself to go against my fundamental nature. If that is the case for you I'm sorry. That's rough.
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 04:32 AM
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how can a man form an LTR and still allow himself to experience emotional attachment while minimising the risk of pain and being used? Well you could do the whole "holding frame" thing for the rest of your life, which seems like a horrible way to live to me but hey you do you. If you're having to force yourself to behave in a way that doesn't come naturally, you're living a lie, which is a good way to slowly corrode your soul. The problem is that if you're not naturally alpha enough, you don't h…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/01/19 04:02 AM
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How do people feel qualified to have children? I suspect that in most cases the question doesn't even come up. People have a desire and they chase the fulfillment of that desire. That's it. It's purely selfish. In the same way that many men will devote a large amount of time and resources into obtaining sex because they have a strong biological drive, many women want to make babies. Baby rabies is real. It doesn't hit every woman, but for those it does it's a powerful force. Some men get it too.…
/r/MGTOW201/01/19 04:15 PM
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You might want to edit in a definition of netorare for those who are not already familiar with it: a genre of adult manga or hentai. It should be defined as CHEATING/Unfaithful/Adultery. The ironic thing about "Netorare" is that it reflects a part of what MGTOW think about women in general. Not all MGTOW. I don't think that all women cheat. Some have stronger morals than that. However they may still get bored and leave.
/r/MGTOW201/01/19 04:04 PM
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So I need to find a new label now if I want to be special? Can I be a bisexual man who's just not really into dudes?
/r/PurplePillDebate01/01/19 05:47 AM
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don't see friends See friends. You don't have to feel sad to be depressed. It can be something that once it starts, reinforces itself and you can end up in a dark hole. One of the ways this happens is through self-isolation. Spend time with your friends. Try to do something. People who spend a lot of time in their own thoughts, ruminators, tend to stay depressed longer. People who are more inclined to take external action pull out more quickly. That's because cogitating constantly about one's ow…
/r/MGTOW231/12/18 03:11 PM
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Well what difference does it make? Last I checked men aren't smarter than women on average. We have more geniuses and more idiots. Plenty of men have strong technical skills, but women who have those same skills are more likely to also pair them with stronger language ability, which is arguably more useful when they are combined. Men have certain advantages on average, and women have their own. This doesn't tell you anything about any specific person. I'm stronger than most women, but any given …
/r/MGTOW230/12/18 07:39 PM
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Removed as off-topic for this sub.
/r/MGTOW230/12/18 03:42 PM
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So is discussion of any interaction with women allowed here? Short answer: Yes. There are two things I seek to avoid. First and foremost is hatred and negativity directed towards women. This is not a place for people in the anger phase to vent. Second is an excessive focus on women, especially on how to get them into bed. There are subs focused on that, and those discussions can and should take place there. However discussions of relations with women as it relates to MGTOW lifestyles are welcome…
/r/MGTOW230/12/18 04:36 AM
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I think it would be great if such a thing could be developed. I would have been incredibly grateful for such a thing had it been available in my youth. I looked into what options were available but currently all that's out there are the drugs used to kill desire in sex offenders, and those have absolutely horrid side-effects. If men could regulate their levels of desire without those side-effects that would be a wonderful boon.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/12/18 09:55 PM
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Removing this as off-topic and overly negative for this sub.
/r/MGTOW229/12/18 03:05 PM
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The consensus is most men going their own way are in the anger phase, and venting it out is fine. That seems to be the consensus on 1, but not here. This is explicitly a space for those who have moved past the anger phase.
/r/MGTOW229/12/18 03:02 PM
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Might I make a suggestion that the sub have a rule that says all videos must include a synopsis to make life easier for you? Yeah that's a good idea. Looks like the special is available on youtube for anyone like myself who has not seen it.
/r/MGTOW229/12/18 08:31 AM
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Thank you for the feedback. Please keep it coming. I have noticed an increase in content posts that are straying outside the bounds of the intent of this sub. I really don't like to be too strict but I guess it's time for me to crack down for a while. Apologies in advance to anyone who gets their stuff removed erroneously. I'm human, I make mistakes, and I don't always have the time to do a deep analysis. Sometimes I get fed up with too many people not respecting the intent of this sub and I jus…
/r/MGTOW229/12/18 08:12 AM
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We should not ban post about women. I have said before that I want to allow discussion of women as long as it's not hateful or negative. However that's a tricky thing to navigate because a lot of guys even in this sub have a lot of those feelings, so even if they're not overtly expressing them, they do still often leak through the things they say and the ideas they express. So I don't want to get overly aggressive with removing comments and posts, but at the same time if I get too relaxed it's e…
/r/MGTOW229/12/18 08:08 AM
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Have you seen the Star Wars Holiday Special? I have not. I'm not familiar with it at all. I tried to watch the video you linked but it looked like a bunch of nonsense to me. Maybe if I'd watched what it was referencing I would have appreciated it more. That's why I asked you to provide some information and context about any video you link if it's not very plainly obvious to everyone. Please keep in mind I'm just one guy moderating the sub. Every time someone posts a long video, I have to take so…
/r/MGTOW229/12/18 08:03 AM
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Cypher decided that the best value for himself was living inside the matrix. He would completely be living for himself after he entered the matrix He was being selfish, sure. That's not the same thing. Think about it, he specifically said he wanted to be famous. Why? What's the value in being famous? Well it might help you get money, and thereby freedom, but if he wanted those he could have asked for them directly. No he wanted to be famous because he wanted to be adored and valued by others. Hi…
/r/MGTOW229/12/18 07:59 AM
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Well I think I'd need a more precise definition of what being purple-pilled means exactly. the Purple pill is a view to be fully aware of the truth, but to attempt to navigate societal norms anyway. The way I would interpret "navigate societal norms" is in direct opposition to the way I define MGTOW. I think that the definition that /u/MadPreacher1AD quoted is a pretty good one. How can one be both "Looking to no one else for social cues." and at the same time navigating societal norms? Doesn't …
/r/MGTOW229/12/18 07:52 AM
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Does this not fit within the posted sidebar statement of the sub discussing independent male life? Well does that video pertain to independent male life in any direct way, or is it just something you like? It seems like your reasoning is "I'm an independent male, and I watched it, so it pertains." That's a bit of a stretch. I mean, by that logic you could post a makeup tutorial as well, just as long as you enjoyed watching it. I'm not trying to be a hard-ass here, but we don't get a large throug…
/r/MGTOW229/12/18 07:36 AM
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It's not currently against the rules but I'm thinking about changing the rules with some of the videos that are getting posted recently. For now if you're going to post something random that's unrelated to MGTOW in any way please at least add a comment describing the content of the video if it's not plainly obvious. That way people can make an informed decision about whether to spend their time on it.
/r/MGTOW229/12/18 07:22 AM
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I don't use the terms "red pilled" and "blue pilled" in the same way you seem to. I use them in a way that's fairly literally aligned with their usage in the movie. If you are red-pilled then you have seen through the lies and know how things really are. If you are blue-pilled you still believe the lies. That's it. So being MGTOW is orthogonal to one's pill status. I can know the truth of male and female nature and choose to go my own way, or make an informed decision to live more traditionally.…
/r/MGTOW229/12/18 07:08 AM
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WTF is this and why is it in this sub? If you just want to share whatever random videos you like there's a sub for that, /r/videos and probably others too.
/r/MGTOW229/12/18 06:33 AM
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Removing this as it is not appropriate content for this sub.
/r/MGTOW229/12/18 06:27 AM
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Removing this as it is not appropriate content for this sub.
/r/MGTOW229/12/18 06:25 AM
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Thanks for offering your thoughts on this. I've been noticing an increase in posts that are near the line (or over it) for what I'd consider appropriate content for this sub. I've been letting some of them go for now as I try to hone in on where the line should be exactly and how I can express that clearly. I welcome input from others on the matter.
/r/MGTOW229/12/18 06:21 AM
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omnipotent I believe the word you're looking for is "omniscient"
/r/PurplePillDebate28/12/18 07:30 AM
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I rolled a d20 to see if you would get banned. You got a natural 20 so you get a pass....this time.
/r/MGTOW228/12/18 04:31 AM
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Sargon did a dramatic reading of the full transcript.
/r/MGTOW227/12/18 12:10 AM
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It's nice to see the sentiment of acceptance of all men rather than infighting. I don't think TRP or MGTOW were represented accurately in that post, but I guess that's secondary.
/r/MGTOW226/12/18 04:15 PM
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Women know that love is for suckers In my younger days quite a few of the women I met were jaded about love and had given up on it because they'd been screwed over too many times by guys. They grew up buying into the Disney fairy tale, only to be brought down to earth brutally by reality. One of them had her first love break up with her and then tell her that he'd been lying to her all along, that he never loved her and he was just using her for sex. Fucked her up bad. She didn't believe in love…
/r/MGTOW225/12/18 05:46 AM
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Removed because not appropriate for this sub.
/r/MGTOW223/12/18 09:35 PM
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Removed because that's not what this sub is about.
/r/MGTOW223/12/18 09:33 PM
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Removed because not appropriate content for this sub.
/r/MGTOW222/12/18 08:33 PM
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Removed because this is not appropriate content for this sub. Take it to 1.
/r/MGTOW222/12/18 07:46 AM
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this discourse is no worse than when maleness was being channeled into acceptable forms by a bunch of stuffy church dudes It's very different. The methods used in the past either didn't demonize men specifically, and offered a path to redemption, or gave men an ideal to strive for and recognition when they achieved it. These days men are just painted as irredeemably bad.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/18 09:51 PM
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Wow she's back. I had no idea. I remember her videos from way back so many years ago. Then she disappeared for years. She always had thoughtful takes on things, and that hasn't changed. She made a follow-up / response to criticism video as well.
/r/MGTOW212/12/18 02:59 PM
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Removing this because off-topic.
/r/MGTOW211/12/18 11:18 PM
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I managed to get my company to buy me a fan. Not a great solution but it helped. I certainly share your sentiment that it's easier to put on layers than to take them off.
/r/MGTOW203/12/18 03:15 PM
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Removed due to being unrelated to the subject of this sub.
/r/MGTOW203/12/18 03:29 AM
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I commented on this recently. You might also want to view the video from that thread.
/r/MGTOW230/11/18 05:18 AM
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Removing this due to overt generalized negativity towards women.
/r/MGTOW229/11/18 05:54 PM
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Women attempt suicide at twice the rate of men but are more likely than men to use methods that are less effective. So what you're saying is that women suck at research.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/11/18 02:26 PM
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I guess that includes my thotaudit post eh.. If that was appropriate content and was removed then I apologize for that. When people post youtube links I try to check them out but if I don't have time I remove them by default. I usually try to watch them or if they're long then skim them to get an idea of their content. I watched a little and skimmed those videos in your post but I couldn't tell what the hell he was on about. It would help if your post included a description of the video contents…
/r/MGTOW227/11/18 04:34 PM
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So don't talk about real shit? Kinda makes this sub pointless. Well like I said, make your own sub if you want. Anyone can do it. Be the change you want to see in the world.
/r/MGTOW226/11/18 03:30 PM
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Mgtow isn't defined by being without women, it is just not living up to the standard societies expectations: forging your own path. I agree, and I have been open to a range of topics here and haven't had any kind of rule against discussing women. I'd prefer to leave things as open as possible, but with an increasing number of TRP and incel-style posts here I have to keep things from devolving too far. Note that I said "Stop obsessing about women", not stop discussing the subject. There's not a c…
/r/MGTOW226/11/18 03:29 PM
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Removed because this is not appropriate content for this sub. Please take it to one.
/r/MGTOW226/11/18 07:35 AM
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Your Post history is really making me nervous and conspicuous Looks like yet another alt of /u/hamacule2000
/r/MGTOW221/11/18 03:15 PM
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I don't disagree with him and I think he makes some good points. However I do think that he's overlooking another significant factor, and that is isolation. That alone has an effect on people emotionally; it can be like carrying a weight around, sapping your energy. A lot of men when they give up on relationships don't have other support systems in place and end up starving for meaningful connection. This is one area where women often do better, and I suspect it's one reason why women sometimes …
/r/MGTOW221/11/18 04:30 AM
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Just looking for thoughts on how to deal with Lonliness mainly in life? This is a central question for a lot of MGTOW. Humans are social animals and we have certain needs for connection that cause discomfort if they are not met. I agree with /u/LittleGanymede that you have to choose which set of trade-offs work best for you. It's an unfortunate facet of modern living. I feel the lack of connection, it certainly affects me, but the price is too high to get it in the way most men seem to in wester…
/r/MGTOW218/11/18 09:54 PM
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This content is more appropriate for the other sub. Please take it there.
/r/MGTOW218/11/18 06:10 AM
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You become a mod by convincing an existing mod with enough privileges to invite you. That's it. So social engineering by those who want to invade and take over existing spaces can be quite effective. There was someone from /r/mgtow trying to get a mod slot in the early days when this sub was created. I shut that down. If I'd let that happen I figure it wouldn't have been long before he was trying to get me banned so he could take over and turn this sub into a clone of that one.
/r/MGTOW216/11/18 08:16 AM
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Why would I care? I didn't go my own way because I couldn't get a smart, attractive woman.
/r/MGTOW215/11/18 08:17 PM
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I'm removing this. I appreciate the effortful post, but this has too much negativity towards women. This is not the place for it.
/r/MGTOW215/11/18 04:43 PM
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alt-right or traditional conservatives I completely agree that members of various "manosphere" communities tend to lean to the right. However I was responding to the quote in the OP which not only lumped everyone under alt-right, which is very different from just "right" or "conservative", but also conflated a bunch of quite disparate groups. If you think that quote accurately describes these groups you must have a very different experience of them than I do.
/r/MGTOW212/11/18 07:36 AM
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Typical of modern journalism. She's either failing to do her research to gain the most basic understanding of the material, or is just blatantly lying. We see too much of both these days.
/r/MGTOW211/11/18 11:23 PM
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Just SAY you are a married Unfortunately in some states in the U.S. that is the criterion for being common-law married, so they'll get you anyway. If you go around telling people that you're married, then legally you are.
/r/MGTOW211/11/18 09:42 PM
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in today’s society, there seems to be a major schism between men and women, and honestly it’s leaked into the Christian world view. I don't know what you're referring to here. Could you elaborate?
/r/MGTOW211/11/18 09:40 PM
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But will MGTOW stop the march of gynocentrism? Certainly not. Look out into the world at all the problems all over. War, corruption, greed, etc. It's all due to our primitive nature. Civilization is a thin and fragile veneer over the core of what we are, what truly drives us. The reason we don't have a peaceful, harmonious, loving, and equal society the world over is because our true nature is just that powerful. No matter how we rationalize our decisions, they mostly come from that place. My po…
/r/MGTOW211/11/18 04:16 AM
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Removed due to a negative focus on women, which is against the sub rules.
/r/MGTOW231/10/18 06:29 AM
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it wasn't that way when I was coming up and I was around before online dating. Yeah same. In the 80s and 90s it seemed like everyone was fucking everyone else. Different social circles I guess. I hardly knew anyone who wasn't spreading themselves around in their 20s.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/10/18 03:25 PM
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Seems like everyone is suggesting that you quit your meds. I'll make a slightly different suggestion. Take up meditation, but give yourself a few months at the least to settle into the practice and ensure you'll want to stick with it. Then maybe taper off the meds. For me when I was still dealing with an anxiety disorder it made settling my mind enough to meditate very difficult, often impossible. Starting a meditation practice while dealing with anxiety may be possible for you, but it was quite…
/r/MGTOW220/10/18 04:39 PM
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For me it took a lot more than just a couple of weeks to really notice the benefits. It's better to commit to it long-term if you really want to see what it can do for you. There are good resources on the sidebar over at /r/streamentry/ I also really like the book The Mind Illuminated, which also has its own subreddit (/r/TheMindIlluminated/).
/r/MGTOW220/10/18 04:33 PM
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I think that they would support any republican in that office. It just happens to be Trump. Many MGTOW see the problems that led to MGTOW as originating from the left, so it's kind of natural that MGTOW will tend to lean to the right. It's just blind tribalism. Personally I don't see how even a die-hard right-winger could support that buffoon, but again, tribalism.
/r/MGTOW217/10/18 02:17 PM
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Maybe there's a perfectly good reason for it, but I couldn't help wondering why a lesbian would get her tubes tied.
/r/MGTOW211/10/18 05:22 AM
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I'm sure there are many factors. One large one has to be the rise of single motherhood. Children need their fathers. Boys raised without a strong male figure tend to get into more trouble, so it's not good for them. But it's probably even worse for young women. They need the safety and security that comes from having a strong, stable male figure around. Without that they never get to internalize that feeling of safety and so they go out into the world feeling vulnerable and lost. The results are…
/r/MGTOW211/10/18 05:16 AM
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Did you find anywhere WHY this happened? There was an announcement about it. They didn't mention TRP specifically, but my take is that they wanted to kill a bunch of subs without the backlash from actually banning them, so they're going the route of the slow death by atrophy.
/r/MGTOW202/10/18 04:38 AM
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Don't you think MGTOW remaining an invisible minority is a safer bet? It may be safer but I'd rather the information gets out. Without it there are plenty of men who will not learn until they've already been ruined by the family courts. I don't want to throw any men away just because they are "blue pilled". They are still my brothers and I'd like to help them if I can. I'm not concerned that so many men will check out of the rat race that society will collapse. My guess is that even among men wh…
/r/MGTOW224/09/18 04:07 PM
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the anonymity feels like hiding to me. Well as the guy says in the video, being an entrepreneur is not for everyone, and some people have careers that could be damaged by being identified. It seems very narrow-minded for him to criticize these men. He says they may not be "ready yet" to be entrepreneurs. However that presumes that there is a singular "right way" to live, and the only question is whether or not one is up to the challenge. There is so much more variation than that in peoples' make…
/r/MGTOW222/09/18 01:43 AM
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I don't think we'll see anything in my lifetime that comes close enough to the real thing to do me any good. Look at how fragile and difficult to repair the skin is on sex dolls. Doesn't approximate the real thing at all either. Robotics has a long way to go as well. Hell even getting a robot to walk well is still difficult and we've been working on that for decades. Chat bots do okay for simple things, but aren't all that convincing when you spend enough time with them. So I'd say that an actua…
/r/MGTOW219/09/18 10:03 PM
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I disagree with him on a lot of things but he seems to have his own opinion of things rather than following the crowd, and I respect that. He is also well educated and informed, so he offers useful perspectives on a lot of issues. I like to be challenged in my beliefs so I appreciate his content.
/r/MGTOW216/09/18 09:02 PM
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I don't think that going my own way has directly shifted my perspective on masculine/feminine balance, or adjusted the value I place on that. To whatever extent I have wanted to be self-aware and fully integrated, that predates going my own way. I don't see them as necessarily related. However I have noticed one unintentional change that has resulted, which is related to your question. After I truly gave up on women, I found that the way I behaved around them began to slowly shift. I was less se…
/r/MGTOW214/09/18 03:34 AM
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an example to prove my point that r/MGTOW is a hate subreddit I wasn't disputing you on your characterization of /r/MGTOW, I was just pointing out that you're not making a strong case by pointing to the actions of the radical SJW mods over at /r/offmychest. I just want you to keep this sub incel-free I think we all want that. Unfortunately there's not a clear, unambiguous line between the types of content in all cases. I used to be more strict but for now I'm experimenting with being more relaxe…
/r/MGTOW211/09/18 04:01 PM
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The mods at /r/offmychest are well known for banning people for the slightest offenses, not unlike /r/MGTOW's mods. I don't even remember now what minor offense got me banned from there but I didn't bother trying to get unbanned. I'd suggest you try /r/TrueOffMyChest/ as a sane alternative.
/r/MGTOW211/09/18 02:36 PM
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Why are you posting material on this sub that belongs on a different one? If you want to advertise your sub go ahead but this is not the place for dating advice.
/r/MGTOW210/09/18 12:16 AM
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Given our wholly consensual interaction, did it matter who was stronger? This whole part is what stuck out to me as the most strange. My understanding is that one of the prime motivations behind asking for consent in that way is that in some situations women can feel threatened and freeze up. They find themselves unable to say "No", or "Stop" even when they are uncomfortable with what is happening. By asking, the man gives them the opportunity to express their desires and hopefully feel safe in …
/r/PurplePillDebate08/09/18 08:47 PM
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how a rational adult could look at this problem and think sexual availability is the catalyst. I think that there is absolutely truth to this. There are plenty of men who want sex badly enough that they'd do damn near anything to get it. Captured perfectly in this song. (lyrics) So yes, the introduction of the birth control pill and the freeing of women's sexuality surely had a negative effect on men's willingness to commit. I remember a friend of mine foolishly admitting to his girlfriend that …
/r/MGTOW208/09/18 04:38 AM
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It looks to me like you are still absorbing the red pill. You've moved past the anger phase and on to the next. I don't know what to call it. Traditionally men have found a sense of purpose by doing things that were seen as valuable by others. Be a father and provider and receive in return respect. A man's value came from being useful to others. He did not have intrinsic worth, he had to earn it. Men have accepted this for a long time, but MGTOW reject it. Part of swallowing the red pill is walk…
/r/MGTOW205/09/18 03:01 PM
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There's another important element she seems to have missed. There's a reason her body is unable to conceive. It is too stressed out and unhealthy from her lifestyle. She could not physically support growing a child in her body, so it refuses to allow her to do so. Her body is telling her this and she complains about everything except her own chosen lifestyle. If she were to conceive and try to carry that pregnancy while continuing with her high-pressure lifestyle, which seems to clearly be her i…
/r/MensRights05/09/18 01:21 AM
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if you do see such a post... please, please! Check the user's post history! Also please report it, and if you have any concerns that don't seem to be being addressed please feel free to message me directly. I have asked the user in question to knock it off and that was clearly not respected, so I have taken further action. It should not be a problem going forward. I apologize for not taking action sooner. I was unavailable for a day and trolls seem to have a sixth sense about that and swoop in d…
/r/MGTOW203/09/18 10:04 PM
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Your problem is most likely depression more than anything else. Tackle that and you'll find motivation to get/stay in shape much easier to come by.
/r/MGTOW203/09/18 10:00 PM
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it might be unusual to hear it from a bloke Not at al
/r/MGTOW203/09/18 09:48 PM
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No one is supporting him. They are supporting free speech. There's quite a difference.
/r/MensRights02/09/18 05:31 AM
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If you read the article, he was not carrying that sign when the assault happened. He was known for carrying it but did not have it that day.
/r/MensRights02/09/18 05:30 AM
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You're having the same difficulty swallowing the red pill that men have. We were all raised in a society that lied to us. It's tough coming to terms with that, but once you fully do it's not really a problem. We were given unrealistic expectations, but once we adjust and see the world we're living in clearly, it's all fine. Holding on to those old ideas is what's giving you problems. The world hasn't changed, you just came to understand it better. Seeing human nature clearly empowers you to navi…
/r/MGTOW230/08/18 08:00 PM
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My issue is not with the existence of alimony and child support per se. If a woman forgoes a career to care for home and children and the couple then splits up, I do think she should be entitled to some amount of support. As with any business partnership, if two parties invest in a business then they both should be entitled to the profits. My issue is really with how corrupt the family courts are. They often determine payments based on a man's income rather than a child's need. How in the hell d…
/r/MGTOW228/08/18 08:37 PM
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Empathize with men on what exactly? The feelings they tend to express that are labeled as expressions of entitlement. When the roles are reversed it is not labeled in that way, and indeed we see abundant examples of that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 09:08 PM
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The claims of "entitlement" come from women trying to explain male behavior without actually understanding men (nor empathizing with them) in the least.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/08/18 02:32 PM
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Everybody you see raging on /r/MGTOW right now will be chilling in six months. This is far from true. Go through the post history of some of the ragers over there and I'm sure you'll find plenty with a history of similar comments going back much farther than six months.
/r/MGTOW223/08/18 10:36 PM
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You would have found an answer, or at least a discussion on the topic if you bothered to look
/r/MGTOW223/08/18 04:45 AM
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Christina Hoff Summers' tweet is my favorite.
/r/MGTOW221/08/18 12:56 AM
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I know that some of you were ready for me to take action some time ago. I've been trying to be patient but at some point it has to stop. Please remember that you can always message me directly or through the "message the moderators" link on the sidebar to provide feedback.
/r/MGTOW221/08/18 12:52 AM
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This has gone too far. /u/hamacule2000 I hope you get whatever help you are looking for but you need to stop spamming this sub with the same thing over and over. People have already responded with whatever they have to offer. At this point I'm starting to suspect you're just trolling. Take a break, go somewhere else for a while.
/r/MGTOW220/08/18 07:36 PM
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it's like your ass after a constipated bowel movement. After all, you don't end up leaking poop afterwards EVER. This is going to be my response to everything anyone says to me from this point forward.
/r/MGTOW218/08/18 03:42 AM
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There is an invite-only /r/wgtow sub. You might see if you can get in.
/r/MGTOW217/08/18 10:12 PM
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Currently this sub's main purpose is to be an alternative to the other sub. A place that is more open to discussion in some ways but without the hatred and negativity. However originally it was created to be something a bit different. There was a video (since pulled down) by Life After Women defining MGTOW 2.0 which was the inspiration for the creation of this sub. MGTOW 2.0 is meant to be about positivity and moving forward, putting oneself first. Leaving red-pill grief and rage behind. So no d…
/r/MGTOW217/08/18 09:08 PM
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what is a STBXW? Soon to be ex-wife.
/r/MGTOW217/08/18 02:38 PM
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What have you learned about females so far? My story is fairly typical of what you read around these parts. So for example attraction. When I was younger I bought into the societal narrative that men are superficial in their attraction cues while women look more deeply. I have since learned that women are just as superficial where attraction is concerned, but they may have a broader range of cues. I have learned that the narrative that women are inherently good while men have a beastly nature is…
/r/MGTOW217/08/18 03:49 AM
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Do you avoid lesbians? I don't avoid women and I don't know why I would treat lesbians any differently. Did you learn anything from female/male relationships that were beneficial although painful? Sure, the same as all of life experience. Are you avoiding pain? Not primarily, but perhaps to some extent. Do you think it's just women's conditioning rather than inherent traits? I think that it is rooted in inherent traits although their expression is certainly shaped by their environment. Do you ag…
/r/MGTOW217/08/18 12:44 AM
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men are required to learn how to communicate to women, women are not required to learn how to communicate with men. This has been my perception as well. From pre-PUAs to PUAs to TRP, men have put a lot of effort into understanding the female mind. In my opinion they have not always drawn the best conclusions from the available information or put it to the best possible use, but the work has been done nonetheless, and is ongoing. I just don't see the same thing from women. What I mostly see is ju…
/r/MGTOW217/08/18 12:27 AM
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Yes, thank you.
/r/MGTOW214/08/18 07:27 PM
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Does not exist.
/r/MGTOW214/08/18 05:28 PM
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what if I do in fact want children but don't want to raise them all by myself? Seems to me you have to go for it. Find the best woman you can, who you think you can trust, and who ideally won't force you into marriage. From there you're rolling the dice. Cross your fingers and hope for the best. Hell at that point maybe don't even worry too much about the marriage thing. You'll already be subject to the family courts, so maybe just lean into it. If you want children there aren't really any good …
/r/MGTOW213/08/18 05:43 PM
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As far as AWALT goes...it depends on precisely how you define it. If you define it to mean that all women will act on their instinctive drives then no, of course not. A cursory look out into the world will show that this is not true. However if you define it to mean that all women simply have such drives, then it's a reasonable position to hold. As you pointed out, men also have their own set of drives that can lead to conflict in relationships, so you could say AMALT as well. To me at that poin…
/r/MGTOW213/08/18 02:16 PM
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What is awalt please someone explain All Women Are Like That. Not everyone can agree on precisely what that means, as you can see in this thread.
/r/MGTOW213/08/18 01:57 PM
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/r/financialindependence/
/r/MGTOW209/08/18 08:56 PM
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we are MGTOW and not monks. I think it's a useful term. Not everyone defines MGTOW in the same way. Some MGTOW will take sex when it's easy, but don't get attached. So monk mode is separate from MGTOW. Not every MGTOW will be in monk mode, and not every man in monk mode will be MGTOW.
/r/MGTOW205/08/18 02:41 PM
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While I certainly agree with the stated intent of the law, it is very concerning. We have seen over and over how these sorts of laws can be abused. Unless this comes with a very high standard of evidence, which I doubt it does, it will be abused. Lives will be ruined based on one person's say-so. I don't want to see anyone abused and I'm all for protection for those who are, but this is not the way. Giving bad actors a weapon they can so easily wield against their enemies can only end in tragedy…
/r/MGTOW231/07/18 03:22 PM
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Welcome, brother.
/r/MGTOW231/07/18 06:10 AM
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Are you sure that he sent the texts and not her? It's a tough situation but I tend to give things like that space and time to work themselves out. Instead of getting caught up in the drama just let it play out on its own and maybe return after the dust settles. Also sometimes things need to come to a head in order to reach resolution and interfering just slows down that necessary process. With any luck being isolated will force your father to stew in his wife's unpleasantness enough to finally p…
/r/MGTOW230/07/18 04:51 PM
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What is The Dhamma? Taoist, Buddhist? As I understand it, it's an idea originating in India. Since many religions came out of that area it exists in more than one. Most people are probably familiar with it from Buddhism or Hinduism. Dhamma is from Pali but you may have heard of Dharma which is same in Sanskrit. Thich Nhat Hanh is a Zen Buddhist if I remember correctly.
/r/MGTOW230/07/18 02:27 PM
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Why do many mgtow communities such as the og r/MGTOW sound so toxic, biased, and bitter against the female gender. I think it's exactly what you'd expect. I mean, hell, a significant portion of men go their own way because they've been badly burned, often times repeatedly. So it should be expected that you'd have a lot more resentment in the ranks of MGTOW than the population at large. On top of that there's the phenomenon of "red pill rage". Growing up with fairy tales and Disney movies it's ea…
/r/MGTOW229/07/18 06:10 AM
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I am not sure I agree with your analogy about physically abusive men. That was meant only as one example of the underlying mechanism. People are very different, and will respond to the same situation very differently as well. True, only a certain kind of man will respond to that emotional build-up with violence. Another man may internalize it. He may get ulcers, or develop a drinking or drug habit, eating disorder, compulsive behavior, etc. The outward manifestation may vary, but the underlying …
/r/MGTOW227/07/18 11:14 PM
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deep down I know that a new relationship would eliminate literally all of my grief. I’m not stupid though, I know it wouldn’t last. Indeed. One truth that I've seen confirmed over and over is that we have to be okay with ourselves before we can ever relate to another in a healthy way. If we put our emotional well-being in the hands of another, that's too much responsibility to place on them. It's not healthy to rely on another to be okay. This is arguably one of the main reasons, or perhaps the …
/r/MGTOW227/07/18 11:09 PM
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I absolutely agree. I think this is a problem among men generally, and I suspect it is even more prevalent among MGTOW. Men often become MGTOW after going through a lot of pain, and so their inclination is often to discard their emotions or lock them away. However I think this is like someone trying to live a life purely of the mind and ignoring their physical body. Not caring for themselves properly in what they eat, exercise, etc. Eventually they will start to feel horrible, no matter how much…
/r/MGTOW227/07/18 10:53 PM
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How do you "work on your emotional health"? You mean friends and family? Not really. For me it's been mostly work done internally, although maintaining my friendships has been important as well. I think the path is different for everyone. For some it may involve therapy. I did that for a few years, and I got a lot out of it, but for me it was not the most effective way. Everyone is different and so what works best will be different as well. There is no one sure way for everyone. To me though med…
/r/MGTOW227/07/18 10:33 PM
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I’m finding it very difficult to come to terms with life alone as a loving, extroverted person. I'm the opposite, quite introverted, so I don't know if my thoughts or experiences would be relevant. Nonetheless I will offer them here, take them for what they're worth. It's primarily about connection. Humans have a built-in need for it, almost like eating and breathing. When we don't meet that need we feel bad, lonely, and it negatively affects our emotional and physical health. So being content w…
/r/MGTOW227/07/18 03:37 PM
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I would advocate teaching each gender about how they would usually operate and is to overcome their natural tendencies. There may be some value in that but I'm not sure how much. You get the behavior you incentivize. Education allows people to make different choices, but without a strong reason to do so, most will not. It's like educating people that eating too much will make them fat. Everyone knows that, but we still have fat people. Our innate drives are very strong. Teaching people about the…
/r/MGTOW226/07/18 03:20 PM
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The first issue I have with mgtow philosophy is the claim that women love opportunistically, but what about men? I think you're seeing things more clearly than a lot of "red pilled" men. Women aren't uniquely unsuited to be in successful long-term relationships. Humans evolved mating strategies for an environment very different from the one in which we live today. This has caused men and women to have conflicting strategies. It doesn't make us bad or good, it's just what is. Men and women both h…
/r/MGTOW225/07/18 03:32 PM
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Although I am not involved with the new sub I am happy to see it come to be and I hope that it succeeds. I mod this sub (perhaps sometimes too aggressively) to keep it focused so I hope this new one will be a more open place for men to go for free discussion on a wider range of subjects. Welcome to our brother sub.
/r/MGTOW224/07/18 08:17 PM
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First of all thank you for your thoughtful post. I have been a daily visitor to MGTOW subreddit for at least an year and I have seen it changed from most gentleman subreddit to current dreadful state. Here I will have to disagree with you somewhat. It was well over a year ago that I saw plenty of the negative behavior that you describe over there. I got downvoted, called a white knight, etc., for calling out the hate and saying I thought that it was counterproductive. There was plenty of negativ…
/r/MGTOW223/07/18 11:36 PM
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I believe that it should be possible to screen for a suitable partner Well there's the rub right there. How to do that. I don't believe AWALT either. I've seen too many examples of women who didn't fit the description. However for any man who doesn't know how to tell the difference, the safest way to live is definitely as if AWALT. So that's the million dollar question. How the hell do you know aside from taking a chance and waiting to see if your heart gets ripped out and your wallet emptied? I…
/r/MGTOW223/07/18 03:27 PM
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You may also want to check out /r/GentlemenOnly/
/r/MGTOW220/07/18 11:02 PM
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start giving your best friends all the things you want to keep. This. Every guy who has been through this knows about how women tend to "forget" who stuff belongs to and will take what's yours. Anything you don't want her to end up with, remove it to a safe place now.
/r/MGTOW211/07/18 03:14 AM
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My hero.
/r/MensRights04/07/18 10:13 PM
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What is the difference between MGTOW and bachelor? Well bachelor is simply defined as "An unmarried man." This doesn't necessarily imply that he does not want to marry or find an LTR. You may be thinking of the term "confirmed bachelor", which tends to mean more specifically an unmarried man who intends to stay that way (also sometimes used as code for "gay"). As to the difference between MGTOW and confirmed bachelor, in practice there may not be much. To me the main difference is probably minds…
/r/MGTOW204/07/18 08:45 PM
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A horrible article obviously pushing an agenda, not even trying to hide it. Misrepresenting facts, drawing conclusions that the facts don't support, etc. For example from the CNN article: A 2016 study in Japan saw a connection between diabetes risk and those workers who did more than 45 hours of non-shift work Yes and the connection was negative. From the abstract of the study referenced: A decreased HR was found among non-shift workers working ≥45 hours per week. HR is "Hazard Ratio" for develo…
/r/MensRights03/07/18 10:48 PM
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Correlation doesn’t imply causation. This was continuously echoing through my mind as I read that horrible article.
/r/MensRights03/07/18 10:44 PM
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results in more weight gain in a woman than in a man Supposedly they took that into account: The effect was only slightly reduced when smoking, exercise, alcohol intake and body-mass index were taken into account.
/r/MensRights03/07/18 10:41 PM
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Is that for real? If so that's a complete about-face from what it was. In the past you'd get banned for even lightly complaining about the overt hatred displayed towards women. Strange stuff going on.
/r/MGTOW227/06/18 06:34 AM
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At least provide an archive link.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 06:34 PM
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I find it difficult to understand this current trend of women only beginning to feel concerned about the circumstances that men face when they are raising boys. Part of this may be that these are the first males they've had the chance to observe whom: They respect and care for to some degree Have not yet learned to just shut up and carry on when there's a problem. So it's the first time they actually see the problems, largely because they haven't been looking. When all you hear all the time is t…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/06/18 05:21 PM
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physically strong, unsentimental, and assertive. These descriptions make up the traditional image of men and define the term “toxic masculinity.” ...and the picture at the top is of a fit man exercising, with bio-hazard symbols overlaid. Not a man engaging in negative or "toxic" behavior, just a guy working out. Being fit and assertive are both qualifiers for toxicity? Do feminists also tell women not to be assertive? This is directly linked to the misogynistic mentality that male qualities are …
/r/PurplePillDebate24/06/18 02:47 PM
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To each his own. I'd like to retire early, so I'm willing to build a career if it means I can make the necessary investments to pull that off. Front-loaded or a slow, even burn. Whatever works for you.
/r/MGTOW219/06/18 01:19 AM
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men are really into casual sex and don't value commitment or companionship from women nearly as much as they value kinky, meaningless fucking. Men value both. However a man can get enough of his basic need for connection met from sex. That doesn't mean that commitment and companionship don't add significant value, but what does he have to pay for those things? There are a lot of sacrifices and compromises he has to make to be in a relationship. If he can get sex without paying that price, that's…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/06/18 01:57 PM
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In a lot of cases, it’s because that person wants to use their age and experience to exert control over the younger person. Which could be seen as a form of misogyny. As others have said, that would be a real stretch of the word. If I own a shop and I want to hire younger people because I think I can exploit them because they won't know their rights, is that misogyny?
/r/PurplePillDebate13/06/18 06:17 PM
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It's starting to turn into the old MGTOW. I'm not sure what you mean here. This sub is becoming like /r/MGTOW? I'm thinking we might have to ditch the MGTOW title though.. You might have a look at /r/GentlemenOnly/
/r/MGTOW211/06/18 04:14 AM
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That is a mod's job.
/r/MGTOW229/05/18 06:54 AM
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If you want to take it on you're welcome to.
/r/MGTOW227/05/18 02:07 PM
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You're right, there should be a better explanation in the sidebar and/or a sticky. However the rules in the sidebar give you a bit of a hint. Although there is some positivity in the other sub, you kind of have to dig through all the femhate to find it. It's largely about how much women suck, putting them down, shitting on them, etc. This sub was founded on the premise that it's not healthy to dwell in that negativity. Better to focus on oneself, moving forward, self-improvement, etc. Just livin…
/r/MGTOW227/05/18 03:54 AM
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If that's the conversation that were being had this wouldn't be getting the response it has. The issue most people seem to have is that his point is being misrepresented. People are arguing against a strawman rather than his actual point.
/r/MensRights20/05/18 03:16 PM
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I have no idea why I am being down voted for stating the obvious. I have to say it's disappointing to see all the downvotes in this thread on completely reasonable and valid comments. I wonder how much of that comes from people blinded by ideology and maybe even hate, and how much from a lack of understanding of how a properly functioning justice system should work. I've always thought that this sub gets a bad rap in other corners of reddit. Sure there are some people with questionable views, bu…
/r/MensRights19/05/18 03:43 PM
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It looks to me like her main problem is that she's picky, judgmental, and arrogant. Look at the way she tears into those men. Especially Connor. She calls him "overweight" and says that he needs to "focus more on personal grooming". I'm not saying he's a great catch, but from what I can see in the pic he's not overweight (maybe dad bod as a worst case), clean and clean shaven with a trim haircut. It's easy to see how high her standards are. She's a perfect example of the female version of the "s…
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/18 05:10 AM
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This is for you
/r/MensRights12/05/18 05:30 PM
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I think he was asking for definitions of the terms.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/05/18 06:18 PM
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Why no for to brigade nubs?
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 12:10 AM
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I'm confused with this wording. Bad wording on his part. Put another way: He's only been with people who hate easy-to-hate groups, like white supremacists and rapists, but he's never been with people who hate other, less acceptable-to-hate groups.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/05/18 12:08 AM
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I still do not see why someone who is a misandrist would necessarily want to become a feminist in all cases. There is a group of people who will encourage and applaud your views, which would probably rightly be seen as unacceptable in another context. Why would you ever not join?
/r/PurplePillDebate08/05/18 11:10 PM
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The WGTOW sub (which I am subbed to) is strict about their bashing of men, as it is not allowed and quickly checked. There is a MGTOW sub for this (/r/mgtow2), but unfortunately it hasn't picked up much steam. Make of that what you will. Probably most just don't know about it.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/05/18 03:46 PM
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I want to see the flac I get to see how right I am. I don't see how one proves the other. Also it looks like your post got deleted, so you won't be getting any more responses than you already have. Call me petty, but I have to admit I smiled at this response: Maybe your ignorant
/r/MGTOW207/05/18 12:39 AM
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It makes things harder to assess I agree. I would have preferred if the original question had been clear on this.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 03:20 AM
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is generally supportive of her then thats fine isnt it? If he clears out and ghosts her whilst she is at her first chemo session we'd all think he was a douche. Yeah I think we're probably getting slightly different answers based on individual presumptions about this behavior. It would have been better if this had been specified in the original question.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 12:45 AM
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Dude has to fuck himself, stay with the chick What about a middle path? Break up with her but stick around to support her as a friend.
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 12:39 AM
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I don't see it as a moral issue, really. I don't think he has any obligation, moral or otherwise, to stick around. I wouldn't judge him negatively for leaving. Maybe a tiny bit, but not much. However it would certainly inform my impression of who he is as a person. If he doesn't want to stay, for whatever reason, she's probably better off without him. Not because he's a terrible person but if he's staying out of obligation only, how much support is she really going to get from him? If he's not u…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 12:34 AM
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I can’t say I feel the same revulsion you do to his decision to assist her through this dire time. Yeah I'm not sure why it's hard to understand that some people would prioritize helping a fellow human over what? Playing video games?
/r/PurplePillDebate03/05/18 12:23 AM
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accused day-in day-out of cheating on her If there's one thing I've learned from my time on reddit, it's that when someone is constantly accusing you of cheating, the odds are very good that they are cheating. I'd put good money on it. telling me how I ain't shit You're in an abusive, probably codependent relationship. Get help. Seriously, get support to get through this and get out of that toxic relationship. It may be hard to see a way out now but once you're out and over the worst of it and g…
/r/MGTOW202/05/18 01:23 AM
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But the majority What conspiracy has ever involved a majority? Aren't they usually seen as a small group of people hiding in the shadows, pulling strings? You're saying "It can't be a conspiracy because it's not a majority." Well if you want to redefine the word to require a majority, then state a tautology based on that....okay, sure.
/r/PurplePillDebate01/05/18 05:07 AM
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One thing I've seen over and over which would be a concern for me in that situation is the way that women respond to having children. If that's not a part of marriage in your question then this will be irrelevant. Over and over I've seen examples of women's maternal instincts pulling her attention away from her husband to the point that he feels left out. She focuses fully on her children and has nothing left for him. I suspect that a lot of this is unconscious and hormonal, and out of her contr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 11:41 PM
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where are the reports on womens happiness from 1892? There's a reason I said "since feminism took hold" and not "since feminism began". You might disagree on what is meant by "took hold" here, but I meant it as when it really hit the mainstream and became a significant political force, which I'd place around the 1960s.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 05:06 PM
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you actually dont know that. Have a look: Example 1 Example 2
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 04:57 PM
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do you think they were "happy"? Well women have been getting progressively unhappier since feminism took hold. I can't say definitively why, I don't know if anyone can. However the most obvious and likely conclusion is that the idea of self actualization and "happiness" rather than family and propriety as the most important things in life People don't seem to understand themselves and what leads to happiness very well. So this self-focused shift has lead them to actually sabotage their own happi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/04/18 03:19 PM
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Well it was kind of rambly, but I'd say I disagree for the most part. I don't think there's any grand conspiracy behind a woman showing up and commenting. We don't need to create a hostile environment to make it uncomfortable for women. Hell, to me this sub is at least in part about moving past the anger phase, which to me includes letting go of those kinds of concerns. If a woman wants to show up and thank us for not being nasty, I can ignore her, or say "You're welcome" and leave it at that. I…
/r/MGTOW229/04/18 04:22 PM
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thanks for the response. You're welcome, but apparently others don't like it. Not sure what I said that triggered people but I'm being downvoted for pointing that out? I expect that in certain subs but it surprises me a little here.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 12:57 AM
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Hopefully someone will actually answer your question, if there is an answer to be had. I'd like to see it too. I haven't come across any sub with feminist/SJW mods that isn't incredibly ban-happy. Even though it's against the site-wide rules to do so, many will ban you (or soft ban you) just for posting in a disapproved sub, regardless of what you post. You could be arguing a pro-feminist point, but it doesn't matter. As long as you post there once their bot will put you on a list. I think I'm e…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/04/18 12:16 AM
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If your post was removed while being on-topic for the sub I apologize. I've been dealing with a lot of spammers lately and I may have developed a bit of a hair trigger for removing questionable posts.
/r/MGTOW227/04/18 03:24 AM
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I kind of get it if the language provoked you. We're all men here. I don't mind rough language as long as it's not gratuitous. I just try to keep this sub on topic. Anyone can start their own sub here. If you have a message you want to get out there, you're welcome to create your own sub for that purpose. You are also welcome to advertise it here, just don't overdo it.
/r/MGTOW227/04/18 02:11 AM
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Raising children is invaluable to the family, society, and humanity Late to the party here but just want to say good for you. I'm surprised at how many people don't recognize the value of a full-time parent to the lives and development of children. It should be more well known how negatively day care affects children emotionally. It's not as simple as saying both parents should work because why not? Two incomes are better than one.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/04/18 10:18 PM
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I remove posts that violate the rules or are off-topic when I see them. I don't have a responsibility to detail why to each person who breaks the rules. I've got other things to do besides mod here. I try to be flexible and lenient but I also have to keep the sub from degrading like it started to when I wasn't paying attention.
/r/MGTOW226/04/18 03:31 PM
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TERPS always talk about getting to know women like it’s some big chore. Well it has been suggested that much of TRP advice selects for a certain type of woman. That type of woman is generally not going to be particularly pleasant to engage with for anything other than sex. So I think it's possible that to some extent this is a problem that's overblown in their sphere in particular. Additionally, it seems to me that a significant portion of TRP men are emotionally wounded and engaging in a lot of…
/r/PurplePillDebate23/04/18 06:12 AM
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I think it's hard to compare male vs. female nudity in film like that. After all, men are more visual and like seeing women's bodies. Women don't seem to enjoy looking at men nearly as much. Look at how women respond to dick pics. They're just not into it in the same way that men are. So who would the male nudity be for? Mostly gay men, probably. If that's your target audience then great, go for it. But you're comparing something that at least one group really likes to look at to something that …
/r/PurplePillDebate22/04/18 10:07 PM
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I find the Pillosphere so confusing is their insistence on post-wall women suffering all alone and crying Part of it might be a matter of perspective. I worked with a guy who was a woman's last-ditch grab for a husband because her time was running out to have children. They'd dated in the past and she called him out of the blue years later wanting to reconnect. I don't think he realized how far down her list he might have been when it came time to shit or get off the pot. So one way of looking a…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 01:07 AM
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I've been playing around with the idea of a post about the different SMPs/RMPs based on age. I'd like to see that. I think it would be interesting to get many takes on the differences by age group.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 12:40 AM
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This: the pool of available men shrinks with each passing year. By the time she's 30, it's not very big at all and gets smaller very fast. Combined with this: the women who get here don't know how small the pool is until they get here. This is the main point that gets ignored most often IMO. Sure their looks decline, and that's a factor, moreso for some than others. But mainly the mob of men trying to fuck them leads them to think that there are more commitment-minded men available to them than …
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 12:32 AM
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they spend years being treated like royalty and when the wall comes and their looks become average at best I won't argue that a woman's looks don't decline with age, everyone's do. However I don't think that's the main factor at play. After all, post-wall women can still get sex easily. I think the main factor behind the "Where have all the good men gone?" trope is based in part around what you said, that women become accustomed over their entire adult lives to being desired and having many mate…
/r/PurplePillDebate21/04/18 12:14 AM
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I wouldn't go so far as "disgust" or "despise", but one thing does come to mind that immediately puts me off of a woman, even if she is otherwise appealing. It's actually the tendency you mention here, for women to ascribe negative qualities and motivations to male tendencies. To me it seemed needy, desperate and "low". This. I've put a lot of effort into understanding women. This has allowed me to be accepting of behaviors in them that I otherwise probably would have judged negatively as well. …
/r/PurplePillDebate12/04/18 05:46 PM
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The way I see it, despite this article, women will still date the highest valued man available to her. I made this point in my main comment as well. The author of the article complains about her friends experiencing negative reactions from men due to their success. However she doesn't say anything about her friends dating down. Pressuring men to succeed using sexual selection, and then complaining about the way men react to that pressure, is hypocrisy.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 10:49 PM
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The people who study these things for a living would disagree. Well it depends on which ones you ask. But that's not actually relevant to my point. Regardless of whether or not he got the science right, my point was that his memo is not anti-diversity, and it does not assert male superiority. Have you read it? Might want to take another look.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 06:00 AM
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Do you think red pill accurately depicts women's experiences? No, but then I'm not sure to what extent that is one of their goals. Could their views be expanded by context they don't normally encounter such as the article above? In theory, I would think so, but I don't see how that would further their goals. It doesn't seem like useful information for them. What effect does reading about the above experiences have on your view of women's experiences in general? I think that there is great value …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/04/18 01:38 AM
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Wow, she managed to get upvotes (!) writing this, I'm impressed. This was my reaction as well. Not only the OP, but many reasonable comments as well. However I did notice that while many reasonable comments have a net upvoted status, their scores are much lower than many which toe the line of the traditional feminist narrative.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/04/18 04:45 PM
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we've had six in the past few hours. Well apparently the automod still didn't catch them. I had an entry that was supposed to remove those cross-posts, but it wasn't working. I got a suggestion from /u/sjrsimac to fix it and I made that change, but apparently it's still not doing the job. I don't know what to say. I can try a different angle that is more restrictive if need be. One issue I have is that there seems to be no way to see those posts. I guess if they make the post and then delete it …
/r/MGTOW204/04/18 04:50 AM
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our tech guy could probably help your mods write a bot for that I'll keep it in mind. I wrote an automod rule for this but so far it isn't working. I'll ask for help over in the automod sub at some point, but the crossposts have slowed down significantly as far as I can tell, although it may simply be that the offender is deleting the posts before I see them. If you keep having problems with it let me know and I'll step up my efforts.
/r/MGTOW203/04/18 05:17 AM
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Please report these posts. I apologize for not keeping on top of this but I will be doing so from this point forward.
/r/MGTOW224/03/18 03:27 PM
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If I'm wrong about this I hope u/Supernumiphone can correct me but until then I'm pretty sure my thinking is correct. Yes. If I were to try to succinctly sum it up I would say that for me this sub is about positivity. Moving forward. Onward and upward. Not dwelling in negativity. I realize that for some men the allure of women is too powerful and they think that they need to continuously remind themselves of the reasons to avoid them. It may be trite but the line about drinking poison in an atte…
/r/MGTOW224/03/18 03:23 PM
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Please continue reporting these posts. I'll work to be quicker about removing them. I'll also look into a better long-term solution.
/r/MGTOW224/03/18 03:18 PM
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what b***** means. B******* = Bullshit.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/03/18 10:34 PM
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Although a lot of red pill ideology is toxic, there's still plenty of truth in there as well. Of course there is, if there weren't it would be easy to dismiss. They have to mix the poison in with truth to get you to swallow it. My point is that just because you've rejected TRP on the whole, doesn't mean you have to reject every single thing they say. Common sense is enough to tell us that if someone has never been in a successful long-term relationship, that they've never developed the necessary…
/r/ExRedPill13/03/18 03:21 PM
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I wish the article is a bit clearer. I don't know how they could know how much energy he's producing, unless somehow being tied in to the main power grid allows them to see that. I'd expect that what he's actually paying is on the excess energy he sells back, which seems perfectly reasonable. I suspect the article is misleading, but again I wish it was clearer.
/r/MGTOW213/03/18 02:01 AM
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Thanks for the update.
/r/MensRights06/03/18 11:05 PM
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tells people "DON'T give any money to charity or men anymore-give it ONLY to WOMEN instead". Unless I missed something that's not what it says. The article is talking about giving the money directly instead of going through a charity. Yes the quotes are about giving the money directly to women, but I'm presuming that's based on an expectation that the charities were doing that anyway. The focus is on bypassing charities that have been shown to engage in some sort of misbehavior. I don't see anti…
/r/MensRights05/03/18 03:34 AM
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It's been three months. Any update?
/r/MensRights01/03/18 02:40 AM
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Since a co-worker here got engaged to some rich dude, this girl is so bitter and angry, no clue what she is hoping to get with this complaint. Seems to me you answered your own question right there. She is jealous of your other co-worker's relationship and wants one for herself. She probably has her eye on one or more of the men who attended the seminar. She wanted to go out to dinner with you guys so that she could sink her hooks into whomever it is she's got her eye on. That's why she was so u…
/r/MGTOW07/02/18 09:00 PM
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WTF is this post doing in this sub? Take it over to TRP or maybe the regular /r/mgtow sub. This sub is not for guys who want to date but have a hard time of it.
/r/MGTOW223/01/18 05:08 PM
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I think that there are a couple of things going on here. In both cases the "women with a high n-count lose their ability to bond" claim is a rationalization for other, deeper fears. First I think it is partially rooted in our biology. If you look at the behavior of other primates you can see that paternity concerns are hard-wired into males. Evolution has primed men to look for all sorts of cues that will help them ensure the paternity of their children. I think that promiscuity in women is an a…
/r/ExRedPill22/01/18 04:53 PM
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They ban at the slightest provocation over there. Your question seemed quite reasonable to me and prompted at least one well-thought-out answer. In my experience you can get away with disagreeing and prompting meaningful discussion in other subs that are primarily for men, like TRP and /r/MensRights. /r/mgtow is the only one I know of modded by such easily triggered snowflakes that they will ban you for the slightest hint of disagreement. The best part of that is that it's something they have in…
/r/MGTOW221/01/18 03:51 PM
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I don't know if I'd say that I completely redefined it, but it has certainly evolved. In the past I would have been reluctant to admit to casual acquaintances that I am remaining single by choice. Now I have no problem with it. I think that's in part because I no longer define any part of my masculinity by my entanglements with women. Also to add to what /u/Zyklon_Bae said, it's not necessarily easy to be MGTOW. Humans are social animals that deeply crave connection and intimacy, and in modern w…
/r/MGTOW220/01/18 01:43 AM
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Everyone is different, so you'll have to discover the magic formula for yourself. As for me, the one thing that's been the biggest help has been working on my emotional development and health. Healing past traumas and coming into a healthier relationship with myself. It's been a real surprise how much it has improved my quality of life. I'm more in control of myself than ever before. I'm able to stay focused and avoid the time-wasting behaviors that used to suck me in too often. It's even improv…
/r/MGTOW211/01/18 05:36 AM
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this post heavily enraged me. Here is some eye bleach for you.
/r/MGTOW28/12/17 01:33 AM
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That's a bad bot. It's easy to recognize that a "imdb-pro-ad__title" is not the movie title.
/r/MGTOW28/12/17 01:12 AM
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My brain is messed up enough from taking modern meds. Not doing this. It's not for everyone. However don't fall into the trap of thinking it's like western drugs. I've run into quite a few people who were leery of it for that reason until they tried it. Afterward they had a completely different view. you mention "doing work". I dont know what that means in this context. Well as I said the root cause is old trauma, and it colors our experience constantly. It's basically a form of chronic pain. Pe…
/r/MGTOW220/12/17 10:09 PM
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I thought there was going to be an answer but I didnt hear it Because he doesn't know. I haven't read the book but I've seen interviews with him and it was clear that he doesn't understand the causes of addiction at a fundamental level. He is a proponent of AA (Alcoholics Anonymous), for example. I have nothing against it, and wouldn't warn anyone off of attending, but I think it's a poor solution overall. The reason I'm not a fan of the AA approach is that it tells people that you're permanentl…
/r/MGTOW220/12/17 04:09 PM
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The case was eventually dismissed. Do you have an idea why the charges were originally brought against her if the evidence showed it was legit? I wouldn't expect that to be pursued unless there was strong evidence that she was lying.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/17 09:31 PM
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MGTOW2 looking a lot like MGTOW1 lately Indeed. Unless they are egregious I just downvote and move on.
/r/MGTOW210/12/17 10:21 PM
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Are you reporting the posts you're referring to?
/r/MGTOW205/12/17 04:16 PM
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I'll update as it develops. RemindMe! 3 Months
/r/MensRights30/11/17 11:59 PM
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"When asked why he didn’t stop a sexual encounter, one respondent said, “She might think I was a little strange…Like she got rejected…I think she would feel weird or surprised.” This hints at a reason that wasn't really covered. Men are supposed to take rejection in stride, but because of the expectation that men should want sex at every opportunity, I think that a woman can take rejection of proffered sex as a much stronger statement about her attractiveness and desirability. How disgusting mus…
/r/MGTOW29/11/17 03:17 AM
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T-1000 program What is this? I believe it's a reference to being cold and calculating
/r/PurplePillDebate22/11/17 11:09 PM
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we have had mass shooting epidemics so mass suicide ones seems plausible too. I think that both will increase. I don't have any strong feelings about the numbers though. However I think there will be larger changes that will take a generation or two to be fully felt. It seems to me that we have crossed some kind of threshold in the last decade or two. More and more men are checking out of college, careers, and most importantly, reproduction. Men who in the past may have managed to integrate into…
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/17 06:28 AM
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do a lot of these articles show just an incredible lack of introspection? I thought that as well. The author devotes no space in the article to examining any "whys", or the possibility that she may have played an unconscious role in the behavior she observed. Then the blog owner states clearly that she is closed off to the possibility that biology could have played any role at all, without offering any alternative position.
/r/MensRights15/11/17 04:35 PM
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She's a cunt for doing that to him. While I don't doubt that sometimes it's done consciously and willfully, I suspect that much of the time she manages to convince herself that they will grow together over time, or that getting married will magically fix what's not working in their relationship. When it becomes apparent that it's not going to get better it's a painful realization for her as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/11/17 01:51 AM
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That is an egregious misrepresentation. It's not necessarily about getting the best, at least not for some of the men who are unhappy about what the data suggest. It's about realizing that if you're not in the top then you've been settled for. Of course that in itself shouldn't be a problem. Few if any of us get manage to land the perfect partner. The problem is in the likelihood that she settled for him hard. Given that, there will always be doubts about whether or not she will stick around.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 08:51 PM
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This was my response to it as well. The post title makes a claim that the post body does not support. I don't see any counter-claim to what's in the OKC article. I can only presume that what's intended is a refutation of a supposed claim in the OKC article that the 80/20 rule applies, except that even in the article it says that while women see most men as below average, they message them anyway. Then OP states that women are dating these men they see as below average, which is perfectly in acco…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/17 08:47 PM
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But you can be successful financially without any effort or skill also. Perhaps, but I wouldn't call someone who inherited their money "successful."
/r/PurplePillDebate13/11/17 10:47 PM
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MGTOW are hateful, but I dont think they have pro rape posts do they? None that I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate12/11/17 03:35 AM
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Some of the descriptions of the basics of gender/relationship dynamics and attraction have a somewhat solid grounding, but they take it too far and draw irrational conclusions. You might want to look at a more balanced approach.
/r/ExRedPill12/11/17 03:19 AM
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wasn't the official reason that there were posts advocating violence on r/incels? That's my understanding, and that's the answer to the OP's question right there. I agree that there is a lot of toxicity over at /r/MGTOW, and it's funny to see how they employ the motte and bailey strategy when they get attention from outside that sub. So many posts demonstrating intense hatred towards women, but then when they're called out on it they act innocent. "They put us down because we're not playing thei…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/11/17 04:16 PM
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I think that there is some merit to many of the fundamentals of attraction and gender roles that they describe. The problem is that they then take that stuff way too far into crazytown.
/r/ExRedPill06/11/17 07:23 AM
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What makes you think that every woman will "slip"? I might be willing to date a woman with an adventurous past but I wouldn't want to be her first LTR. Many people when trying a new thing make mistakes and screw things up a number of times before they get it right. I'd be open to it but not until she'd shown that she could make it work. I wouldn't want to be the guy she learns her difficult life lessons on.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/10/17 10:17 PM
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I find it to be invaluable. I think it's essential for MGTOW. The need for intimacy and connection is hard-wired into human biology. By choosing this life one is choosing to go against their own biology. That's not an easy thing. Deeper self-knowledge and greater control over the mind are a huge help with this.
/r/MGTOW207/10/17 08:03 AM
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The article reads a lot like fiction to me. At the very least it's really reaching to make conclusions based on very little data (and anecdata). Then one day, one of them confided in me [...] Almost before I'd finished processing this, another friend told me [...] Not long after, another told me This reads like a contrived plot device. Going through her life, presumably for years, believing her friends lives were one way, then suddenly and conveniently they all start dropping truth bombs on her.…
/r/PurplePillDebate06/10/17 04:37 PM
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both of which, I'm sad to say, were almost certainly written by dudes That was my initial reaction on reading the first link as well. That is very much a man's use of language. I'd bet good money on it.
/r/PurplePillDebate28/09/17 06:49 AM
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they don't know how to push the right buttons with women Well that's the TRP approach. Pretend to be someone you're not and maintain the facade (frame) perpetually I guess. How about a different approach? How can these boring guys meet equally boring women? That way they can relax and be their boring selves together. The biggest problem for a boring person is that they don't tend to get out much, so don't have a good way to meet like-minded people. In theory dating sites/apps should be the solut…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/09/17 05:19 AM
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I would say the primary difference is that in white supremacy a belief in in-group supremacy is core to the movement, while in MGTOW this is not the case. While it's true that many MGTOW do look down on women, many others do not. It is not an essential part of the movement. It is entirely possible to look at the scientific evidence for biologically-based core differences between men and women and conclude that it is not worthwhile to become overly entangled with women, all without hating women o…
/r/PurplePillDebate03/09/17 03:09 PM
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TIL there is an incel rule.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/08/17 04:50 AM
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Great read. It's too bad that she is clearly so deeply enmeshed in feminist thinking that she's not even considering the possibility that some of the trends she's seeing could be due to innate tendencies rather than cultural conditioning. Here she says: They used to get social status from the men they married — and, it seems like this mindset has continued (and, even penetrated into the lesbian community.) If she were to apply Occam's razor here she might see that it's less likely that some toxi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/08/17 09:27 PM
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When I was younger I was tortured by my overactive sex drive. The existence (and availability) of such a drug would have greatly enhanced my emotional well-being. I looked into chemical castration but the side effects are horrible. I don't really see a downside to such a thing. I wish it existed.
/r/PurplePillDebate23/08/17 11:23 PM
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staying away from women is the very foundation of MGTOW principles. That's not how I see it. To me MGTOW is about avoiding romantic entanglements, but does not proscribe friendships.
/r/MGTOW216/08/17 02:58 PM
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He didn't say he has a problem with the Red Pill Rage found in MGTOW 1.0. No? Then how do you read this part of his post?: MGTOW is just as ridiculous as feminism. Both "movements" seem to demonize people solely based on their gender.
/r/MGTOW216/08/17 07:26 AM
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Well you're in the right place. It says right there in the sidebar: "No misogyny allowed." I would argue that demonizing women, while common among some MGTOW, is not an essential part of the movement, and so you're throwing the baby out with the bathwater here. I don't think swearing off women is a good route to go down. That may be true for you, and if so then by all means do what's right for you. However there are many reasons why MGTOW do this and their reasons may be different that yours, or…
/r/MGTOW215/08/17 10:58 PM
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So how do we determine what the "purest" expression of these differences is, if they are filtered through this cultural lens? Well I think that when we observe gendered differences in animals that are closely related to humans, and we observe the same differences across human cultures, and the same differences at very young ages before environment has (potentially) had a chance to have an undue effect, we can say that those are probably inherent at the biological level. So I guess I'd say if we'…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 05:29 PM
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For example, if you believe that being yielding, inert, uncompetitive, or submissive are a part of a woman’s inherent nature, how is it possible that feminism has so effectively encouraged women, en masse, to act out of line with these innate behaviors? I think you're creating a false dichotomy here. I don't think anyone familiar with the science in recent decades on the matter of nature vs. nurture believes that it's just one or the other, or even primarily one or the other. What I have seen is…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/08/17 04:53 PM
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I seem to be the only one who doesn't have such a high opinion of the movie. While I do think that it has some value, especially if it is able to open the door for some people to consider a different viewpoint, overall I think it was not very well made. It's been a while since I've seen it so I'm going off of memory here, but as I recall there were areas of discussion that were barely opened but not pursued, claims that were not followed up on, all sorts of obvious questions that would arise in …
/r/MGTOW207/08/17 10:41 PM
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Just curious, have any of your female friends wanted more from you relationship wise? None have come right out and said as much, but I have gotten what I perceive to be clear indicators of interest. The opportunities are there.
/r/MGTOW207/08/17 07:15 PM
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A quick search didn't find any that don't call it an "Anti-Diversity Screed" or some other negative qualifier, but here's a decent link that includes the VP's reply.
/r/TheRedPill06/08/17 06:33 AM
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I have no problems with women. I don't hate them and I don't think they're evil. I have female friends and I value them. Their presence in my life provides balance. Before I had female friends I didn't realize how out of balance I was by surrounding myself with only masculinity. There is something valuable I get from their very different perspectives. However I do not date them. As I've done more and more work on myself, thereby allowing myself to be content on my own and no longer suffer from l…
/r/MGTOW203/08/17 02:53 AM
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Well if the term "alpha" isn't valid as previously used, then it's up for grabs, so it might as well be used to describe the arbitrary collection of traits that RPers call "alpha." In other words, whether or not it has a corollary elsewhere in the animal kingdom there's no reason for RPers not to keep using it as they have been. I suppose one could argue that the lack of "alphaness" in the animal kingdom to some degree undermines some of the foundation of this theory but I'm sure they'll argue t…
/r/PurplePillDebate02/08/17 10:49 PM
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I think that we are so many years from the development of anything worthwhile in this arena that this is not an interesting question to me at this time.
/r/MGTOW229/07/17 06:50 AM
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A wonderful, insightful post. Thanks for sharing this.
/r/ExRedPill28/07/17 03:03 PM
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My first suggestion is to recognize that you are holding onto a belief that a relationship is to some degree necessary for your happiness or contentment. The next step is to question this belief. Try this thought experiment: Imagine that you can be perfectly content in your life without a relationship. You go through your days fulfilled, wanting for nothing. You enjoy whatever activities you choose to engage in fully. You have all you need. Now a relationship becomes available. Do you take it? M…
/r/ExRedPill27/07/17 12:31 AM
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does it not dispirit you people knowing you're going to live the rest of your life with nobody by your side? It does not for me, but it did for quite some time. It's been a journey for me getting to a place of peace on this matter. I'm glad you brought it up, because I think this should be discussed more. Humans are social animals and the need for intimacy is hard-wired into us. Being MGTOW means, for many of us, going against our own nature. To me this means that we need to put forth extra effo…
/r/MGTOW223/07/17 05:22 AM
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I'm curious about this 'positivity' that this sub keeps bringing up as a cause for their ban. As far as I know the creator of this sub was not banned. I also was not. This sub doesn't exist because of the bannings that have been going on, at least not directly. It exists as an alternative to the toxic environment over on /r/MGTOW. If you're positive about the future of male/female relations, I think that's basically just trolling r/MGTOW. That's not what this is about for me at all. I agree with…
/r/MGTOW220/07/17 05:24 PM
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Not much. I have a property I intend to turn into a rental at some point. Beyond that just my 401k. I don't spend much, but I don't deprive myself either. If I need a vehicle I buy it used with cash. I try to avoid debt because debt interest is money I'd be just giving away to someone. The only items that I might consider "luxuries" in which I somewhat regularly indulge are books and music. I don't expect to be so well-off when I'm that age to be able to afford a high-end retirement home or othe…
/r/MGTOW216/07/17 04:18 AM
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Only speaking for myself here, but I have no intention of banning anyone if I can help it. Disagreements and open discussion are welcome as long as it's done respectfully. Of course anyone trying to bring over the toxicity from /r/MGTOW repeatedly despite warnings will have to be dealt with, but hopefully that won't happen.
/r/MGTOW213/07/17 10:13 PM
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allowing men to vent without people like you trying to shame them into silence. I said nothing about shaming anyone. In the past I have simply asked for a bit of balance. Not asking to silence anyone, just a bit more reasoned, balanced discussion. Those who feel that they need their anger can have it, but those who have moved past it deserve a voice as well. That's what I'm talking about though. If you've moved past the anger phase and want some content that's not about how horrible women are, d…
/r/MensRights13/07/17 06:37 AM
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What is it's original purpose? To discuss all matters MGTOW I'd think. These days it's all misogyny all the time, and you get called a white knight cuck and banned if you even dare to suggest some moderation in tone or variety in subject matter. Go look for yourself. Find a post that's not about how horrible women are.
/r/MensRights13/07/17 06:01 AM
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the /r/MGTOW sub on reddit is a fucking embarrassment. It seems to have been taken over by some people who are not holding to its original purpose. There is a new /r/mgtow2 that is a more forward-looking MGTOW sub.
/r/MensRights13/07/17 04:46 AM
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You get negative push back for the Sexism and Misogyny This is my view. These things, and the lack of self-awareness and honesty that is required to hold those views. To me most of the negativity I see from the TRP'ers is based on behavior of women that has a direct equivalent in men. Essentially: Some people act shitty. Men and women are different in some ways, so sometimes this essential shittiness is expressed differently between genders. It's ridiculous to focus on the bad behavior coming fr…
/r/PurplePillDebate11/07/17 06:21 AM
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If you don't mind, I'll make you a mod. Certainly.
/r/MGTOW202/07/17 03:00 PM
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My first reaction was that he is being dishonest in the video, stating that MGTOW 1.0 is about being stuck in trying to cope with grief, basically. Then I thought about what the /r/mgtow looks like and yeah it actually kind of fits. I gave up contributing over there because anyone who wants to focus on moving on and being positive gets piled on and accused of being a white knight. So thanks for creating a new sub for that purpose. I hope it catches on.
/r/MGTOW202/07/17 06:39 AM
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As others have already said, while it's true that TRP includes some genuinely positive advice, it's wrapped in a toxic package. For example... TRP made me realise that women are by nature polyamorous and thus cannot be completely trusted. It's not hard to find examples of horrible women to confirm this bias if you choose to embrace it. It's also not hard to find examples of horrible men if you're looking for that. The fact is, many humans are horrible. It's not a gendered thing. I've personally …
/r/ExRedPill23/06/17 07:06 AM
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It is not that women are "eternal teenagers" [...] That "oldest teenager in the house" observation is correct I must be misunderstanding what you're saying because it looks to me like you're contradicting yourself.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/05/17 02:47 AM
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Well a little quick searching indicates that a couple trying to conceive has about a 15%-25% chance of accomplishing that in a given month. It takes an average of four months to make it happen. I didn't see anything about the odds from a single encounter, but I'd think they'd be lower unless this woman meticulously planned this encounter to the optimal time in her cycle. So the odds are on your side here.
/r/MGTOW24/03/17 04:13 AM
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I was sort of "cured" as an adult, and it was a mixed bag. I didn't intend to cure my aspergers/autism, but was just trying to improve my health. It wasn't an overnight thing, but one day I realized I didn't understand my old self anymore. I'd become a stranger to myself in a way. Anyway, I wouldn't have expected to mourn the loss of some parts of myself as much as I did, but yeah the better social skills is pretty nice. Worth it? I guess so, but since I needed to improve my physical health it w…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/02/17 06:52 AM
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The uploader has not made this video available in your country. Sorry about that. :(
/r/MensRights18/02/17 10:57 PM
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/u/abrathatfits I think you meant /r/ABraThatFits/
/r/PurplePillDebate17/02/17 06:12 PM
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Why African men can't go their own way. I missed the part where any of that keeps you from going your own way? Seems like a list of reasons to do so.
/r/MGTOW05/02/17 06:22 AM
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She says 27 years herself in the video linked in this comment
/r/MensRights24/01/17 07:27 AM
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One thing that probably skews the numbers significantly is that some sites/services provide incentive to create multiple accounts. On Ok Cupid someone will get notified every time you look at their profile. If you don't want to look like a stalker, but want to go back and review someone you're interested in, you might want to have a spare account for that. Might also want to have another one for which you've answered your questions differently, or answered all of the questions including those yo…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/01/17 07:17 AM
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is the problem present in planes too? Did you read the article? They claim that the move was a response to actual problems experienced by passengers.
/r/MensRights17/01/17 06:00 AM
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I don't know if the common search terms really indicate much about the general population's preferences. It seems to me that it would show their preferences for porn, but not necessarily for partners in real life. That's an interesting distinction to make. To what degree do people's porn viewing habits reflect their real-life preferences?
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 04:44 PM
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Men liking variety isn't an explanation for those searches being at the top of the list. If we presume that most men find younger women most attractive I think a reasonable expectation would be for teens and 20-somethings to be the most searched for, with MILFs much farther down the list. If it was just about variety I'd expect most of the search terms to be more or less equally represented.
/r/PurplePillDebate06/01/17 04:41 PM
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why the guy who was hooking up with Chick 2 pled to rape By keeping the friend of the victim busy, he was an accessory, and under the law equally guilty.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/12/16 04:13 AM
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I haven't looked into it but supposedly there is a phone you can feel good about owning.
/r/PurplePillDebate14/12/16 03:58 AM
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Any concern over this is at least a generation early. We are so far from any kind of robot that could replace the experience of being with an actual human. On every front, from the fake skin, to the mechanical aspects, to the A.I. I probably won't live to see anything that will even come close, and neither will most of the people worried over this. Certainly not at a price point that will be accessible to enough people to have any significant impact on society. Between now and then things will c…
/r/MGTOW25/11/16 10:13 PM
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You have created a Möbius strip of comments. Now I am trapped forever. Curse you.
/r/PurplePillDebate21/11/16 11:48 PM
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Not every MGTOW hates women. It's possible to have zero animosity, have female friends, and still make an informed decision to avoid dating. Not wanting to engage in women-bashing doesn't automatically make one a white knight.
/r/MGTOW18/11/16 08:51 PM
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Well I think at this point in my life if I wanted to live out some kind of "player" fantasy, I'd keep it from my friends and family, because I don't think they would understand or respect it at all. If I was seeking validation in that way I expect that it would backfire horribly. So yes, quite a change from school days.
/r/PurplePillDebate16/11/16 05:48 PM
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I don't know about centuries, but real quality will probably not come in our lifetimes. We are so far from where we need to be on so many fronts. A.I. and all of the materials and technologies involved pretty much.
/r/MGTOW15/11/16 05:27 AM
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I will never support them. They make no effort to hide the fact that they allow their mods to abuse their power and push their personal views. The example you gave is only one of many.
/r/MGTOW15/11/16 05:16 AM
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My personal theory is that feminists - especially those who feel very passionate about it - are damaged in some regard. I have a similar theory. My guess is that many radfems are damaged in some way that has nothing to do with society at large (patriarchy, etc.), but more likely due to the personal circumstances of their own lives. They have a lot of suppressed rage and no way to get it out. Then they find that through feminism they can rage and spew bile at the world and not only is it acceptab…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/10/16 09:50 PM
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As others have said, what is to stop women from just putting the name of any random millionaire down on the birth certificate? The guy got into trouble because he didn't respond to the summons. A millionaire would be much more likely to have his team of lawyers right on top of things so it would never get that far.
/r/MGTOW26/06/16 08:56 PM
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All of this fits cleanly with my views with the exception of alimony. If one person has put their career on hold, or never started one, in order to support the union, then having them on their own after a separation with no earning power beyond "Do you want fries with that?" seems a bit harsh to me. So I support short-term alimony only in those situations where one partner cannot support themselves immediately upon exiting the union due to the work they put into said union. I would have it last …
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/16 11:21 PM
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It would however have a lower penalty on higher income men. ...and hopefully remove the perverse incentive our system currently provides for women to become pregnant by wealthy men. I seem to recall seeing mention of a monthly child support payment of over $100k/month a professional athlete was/is making. Someone please try to justify that.
/r/PurplePillDebate15/06/16 10:57 PM
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Nature is not about doing whatever the fuck that makes you happy, it is about doing whatever/whoever the fuck you need to survive and reproduce. It is about both. We are pleasure-seeking animals, so we have evolved the necessary desires to survive and reproduce. That is why sex feels so good and why calorie-dense foods taste so good. We evolved in such a way that doing whatever the fuck made us happy also led to successful reproduction. This is why it can be so difficult to fit in to modern soci…
/r/PurplePillDebate27/04/16 03:28 AM
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That article lacks an unfortunate amount of detail. My thoughts as well. I can't draw any conclusions at all about what really happened based on what's provided in that article.
/r/MensRights13/04/16 08:34 PM
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Maybe I'll just lower my standards and start fucking ugly girls with pancake booties. I want this engraved on my tombstone.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 08:13 PM
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There are a number of theories why. What if you're inverting causation here? Maybe she was always oriented more towards pure gratification and less towards bonding, and that's what led to her behaviour. Then later in life she tries to settle down because she's "supposed to", but it doesn't work well for her because she's just not built that way. She could presumably make it work, but it would take more effort for her because that approach to life doesn't come naturally to her.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 07:50 PM
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Even all the women Bill Clinton (allegedly) had casual sex with mentioned they loved him because he made them feel a certain way. No, pretty sure it was because he was the most powerful man on earth. Well he actually does have a reputation for being incredibly charismatic, so it's probably at least some of both.
/r/PurplePillDebate13/04/16 07:41 PM
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Let's look at it from another biological imperative, like food. 2 groups starving people. I think that in order for this analogy to be accurate the first group would have access to food that is not very nutritious to them, but is quite so for the second group. The second group looks at the first group and thinks they have it made and doesn't understand why they're complaining.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 03:04 AM
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Or, alternatively, everyone involved can have some empathy for the other party. It's not a zero sum game - you can feel for both. Rational, considerate, empathetic. Are you sure you're in the right place?
/r/PurplePillDebate18/03/16 02:55 AM
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As a guess: Been there, done that.
/r/MGTOW12/03/16 08:32 AM
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You wouldn't want to accidentally judge someone's comments on their own merits rather than based on your preconceptions?
/r/PurplePillDebate11/03/16 06:35 AM
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It's just that so often arguments go to shit Yeah often times I read an OP and look forward to an engaging debate on an interesting topic only to find that trolls (intentional or not) have derailed any meaningful discussion.
/r/PurplePillDebate10/03/16 08:29 AM
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after a while, the state pays for these kids (now grown up) anyway, because they're in prison. This exactly. It's not about the constitution. Poor environments for children cost us all in higher crime and taxes. Either find a way to stop women who can't properly support and raise children from having them, and/or universally support them IMO.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/03/16 06:33 PM
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It's a shame that quality sex bots will probably not happen in my lifetime. We are so far from that on so many technical fronts right now. When we do finally get those though it will change the world.
/r/PurplePillDebate09/02/16 05:20 AM
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What is this oligarchy you speak of? Here you go
/r/PurplePillDebate05/02/16 10:37 PM
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You can't develop a gauss cannon, or a submarine through only experience. But after you do you go test it. You don't just go around telling people how awesome it is.
/r/MensRights12/01/16 01:30 AM
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For anyone who didn't get the reference and is curious: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOW4QiOD-oc
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 03:58 AM
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Not necessarily. Sometimes you end up solving the same problem so many times you can just phone it in. Slight variations but not enough to really get the grey matter working hard.
/r/PurplePillDebate08/01/16 02:16 AM
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Some people do look down on MGTOW men and consider it to be an insult. I've never really understood why. Even if someone doesn't make that choice I'd think they could understand how someone might. Especially people involved in this sub.
/r/MensRights01/12/15 05:23 PM
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Is there a point to this thread?! I find it quite interesting. It's like the conversations I have with my best friend writ large. I can never be sure what he'll find attractive, and he's often surprised by my preferences as well. It's great to see the wide variances in people's preferences. Many guy's "hot" pictures I would consider only pretty or "just fine". Nothing wrong with them, but not at all what I would pick to represent the epitome of feminine allure.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 09:44 PM
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Really? Rape victim? Jesus Christ you guys are legit terrible people. It doesn't matter if it comes from childhood abuse, abandonment, rape, etc. Crazy is crazy and there's no reason for anyone to feel obligated to take that on. Maybe you know a rape victim who got her life together and her head straight but that doesn't trump someone else's experience of the crazy.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 12:22 AM
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Also, the "nice guy" phenomenon is not about guys genuinely being nice - it's about guys who pretend to be nice, then act like petulant children when denied sex. Exactly. They are trying to focus on the attribute they've been told will make them attractive to women. If they were told the truth they might work on their appearance a bit more.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 12:17 AM
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Lots of rather specific stuff. Do you have a hard time finding men you like?
/r/PurplePillDebate30/10/15 12:11 AM
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he was getting so close Yeah this. I was watching a video recently with a young hippy chick who attended a Muslim service and was required to put on a burqa. What surprised me was that she actually understood that there could be value in that. That the men who were there to worship didn't need the distraction of the female form. I don't think that any woman who hasn't had a man's testosterone levels can understand what it's like to have a man's sex drive. How much of a burden it can be, and how …
/r/MGTOW21/10/15 10:17 PM
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A first degree misdemeanor...so community service if the lawyer is not a complete moron.
/r/MGTOW13/10/15 07:03 AM
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I am familiar with all of these sentiments. I also work in software development and have spent time in fairly toxic work environments there. However I would like to offer a perhaps slightly different perspective. I guess the short version is that I think there may be some value in not completely running away. At my last job, which I held for over three years, things went from pretty good to terrible. Initially I was recognized for my contributions, getting two bonuses and a raise within my first…
/r/MGTOW09/10/15 05:14 PM
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criminalizing speech, no matter how abhorrent, is never ever ever acceptable. Agreed. This is what feminists do. I'm very disappointed in the downvotes you're getting on your comment.
/r/MensRights07/10/15 04:44 PM
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Dagobah?
/r/MensRights27/09/15 05:47 PM
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Their fear is misplaced. Look at the current state of technology in artificial intelligence and robotics among others necessary to build a convincing artificial human. We are at best decades away from producing anything worthwhile. If I was interested in owning such a thing I would hold out no hope for it happening before I am too old for its existence to do me any good.
/r/PurplePillDebate24/09/15 09:09 PM
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Yeah if you want to disguise your voice there have to be better, less grating options.
/r/MGTOW30/08/15 07:48 AM
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Did you watch the same video I did??
/r/PurplePillDebate30/08/15 07:44 AM
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Not wrong at all. The rational part of your brain doesn't control the emotional part. Even though you've decided you don't want to pursue women the drives for sex and companionship are still there. You'll just have to deal with those. It's part of being MGTOW IMO. Masturbation provides temporary relief but one thing you have to watch is how often you think about sex or women in general. You'll want to get that under control. My experience has been that as I manage to let those thoughts dominate …
/r/MGTOW30/08/15 05:50 AM
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Surely a guy with a mind for self-improvement would put a bit more care into choosing a significant other than just how hot she is. Certainly he would, but no one can just ignore physical attractiveness. This is why it's called "settling." Everyone wants to have it all. The perfect LTR partner in a hot physical package. In reality getting that would be akin to winning the lottery. Most of use have to compromise on one aspect of our partner, or more often on both. Some guys won't compromise on lo…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 05:48 AM
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Isn't it all just what you value more, and isn't it completely reasonable to either one? Absolutely but I don't think I would approach it in quite the way you describe. For example with my job: I have a job that pays pretty well. It's boring and at times stressful. Not really what I want to be doing but I like the money. I'm trying to situate myself so that I can do something I enjoy more even if it means living somewhat modestly. Life is too short to spend half my life at a shit job just so I c…
/r/PurplePillDebate28/08/15 05:32 AM
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YMY asserts that women cannot understand or communicate non-verbally. No it presumes that men are oafish brutes who will ignore all the subtle (or not) signs she is giving off that she wants him to stop.
/r/PurplePillDebate22/08/15 05:40 AM
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It's so incredibly pathetic that anyone actually believes that women choosing to not have sex with men under whatever circumstances is some kind of infringement on the men's rights. Did you actually read the post you're responding to?
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 02:09 AM
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A lifetime of feminist conditioning makes r/theredpill a tough pill to swallow. Someone needs to create it in suppository form.
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/15 02:01 AM
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I realize I'm going against the grain here but I am a man and generally I find that a woman being skilled/talented makes her more attractive to me. Having a career or children or both is her choice.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/08/15 06:03 AM
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The issue I have when I see the more reasonable definitions of AWALT is described well here. Basically when you call someone out on their use of AWALT they will tell you they don't mean it literally, it actually means something else. Then they go right back to using the more literal interpretation.
/r/PurplePillDebate17/08/15 07:01 AM
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People seem to be taking this as negative, dehumanizing to men or something. But if you take a broad look at it, mostly what the author is saying is to have strong communication. If he does something you like, give him positive feedback. Do something for him in exchange. It's really fairly positive (and basic) overall. What would be the alternative? Don't encourage him when he does something good? Take him for granted? It seems like the dog comparison has primed people to take this in a bad way …
/r/PurplePillDebate09/08/15 06:26 PM
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This is my new reply to everything.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/15 08:40 PM
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