Parents

498483838383 · 2020-11-01T09:43:24+00:00

They are not going to live forever. Whatever decision you make based on what they want will affect only you, and after they die you will have to burden with all the stuff that you did for them

MyLittlePonyofDoom · 2020-11-01T12:09:46+00:00

At this point they are probably wondering what was the point of having a child labouring countless hours and spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on bringing you up.

HolyInquisitor1 · 2020-11-01T19:48:17+00:00

I can only say good luck and try to avoid that topic. Lie to them... simple... tell them you will have kids when you find wife/gf. Dont get gf finish uni get job focus on your self. Move out. Then tell them. I live with my mother... she is biggest child i know, 0 accountability for her actions and she will turn 60 soon. Dont let somebody else make desicions for you. Think for yourself. Iam last year uni got a job still collecting money so i can move out. Nadam se da ce sve biti dobro ali izbjegavaj takve teme s roditeljima, oni su odrasli u drugom vremenu, uvijek ima ljudi spremnih za razgovor ako ce ti biti tesko, samo se javi. Moja stara me se umalo odrekla kad sam rekao da se nikada necu ozeniti niti imati djecu, ali posto sam joj jedini sin nije mogla jer je vec polako stara i nada se da cu se brinuti za nju (grdno se vara/uvrh glave pare za staracki dom cu pomoc)... iako imam curu 6 godina ona to zna i ok joj to. Imaj svoj plan zivota i radi na sebi.

ChicoMongol · 2020-11-01T22:59:56+00:00

Don't argue with them, it's a waste of time, keep your thoughts to yourself, I'll do it, eventually they'll accept it, follow your own will, that's what matters. For example, I don't want to have children with women, I don't want to fuck myself in life, but I will adopt a boy in the future (with dead parents and no family), my parents didn't like it, but I ignore it, they want me to marry a woman, but i decide for myself, luckily they don't bother me anymore and left it behind.

artographic · 2020-11-02T05:42:12+00:00

I made an earlier post awhile back mentioning a solution to dealing with this or the guilt you are not fufilling the role your parents placed.

"Growing up is ultimately the death of your mother and father's identity with yours being ushered into the world"

"When you become a parent, you become the ghost of that child's future.

To be cut and dry, your life is in your hands now, its not their choice to make. They had you and full well knew you were going to make decisions for yourself they personally probably didnt want. Now they still have to accept that.

Plus I dont think the world is fit right now to raise children considering the cultural enviorment they are growing up in, is barely tolerable for their parents.

DeakinFrost · 2020-11-01T20:52:14+00:00

Lie to them

That's what I do

My parents chose to not understand, to take no time to understand, do not even type a single word into a search engine

So I just lie to them

Aussie_Chart_Trader · 2020-11-02T03:02:36+00:00

Don't even bother trying to convince them otherwise. They're brainwashed.

I would argue having a child is the biggest act of egotistical selfishness. No one has a child for the sake of the child.

bero4666 · 2020-11-01T18:43:52+00:00

Suggest you look up antinatalism

BillCl1tcum · 2020-11-02T17:51:44+00:00

Simply, dont argue with them, dont bring it up, when they do use diversion tactics, like subtle chancing the subject,

when that fails ask them why they think it is selfish than just tell them a vague answer with the hamburger model (compliment, feedback, compliment) for example:

Why do you believe X is being selfish? Oh how interesting and why else do you think so? Really I never thought of it like that? Thats so interesting. Do you want some name drink btw? And perhaps something to go with name drink. Thanks for your wisdom. I really appreciate your point of view. Never looked at it like that. Thank you for your insight, I’ll think about it Well, Im going to do my name activity (homework, work on your passion, etc etc)

If they don’t want something to drink than just leave the room and excuse yourself. If they do, get the drink and the thing to go with it, give it to them, thank them again and excuse yourself to work on your passion.

The main trick here is to understand you will never change their minds, and that is okay. But you need to use some tactical communication to get them of your back

In my opinion, any conversation were Im spending more than 5 mins trying to share them my point of view and than want to argue and aren’t open to my point of view is for me a waste of time. It means we’ll keep repeating the same arguments again. Im not here to convince any one of what values I have and its okay if they disagree.

TheTrueTylerDurden · 2020-11-01T14:53:10+00:00

The biggest thing is you don’t tell them about your reasons more than once in fact the more “aware” you become you have control your urge to explain & teach people the hard earned knowledge you learned, it’s a waste a time it’s like a foreign language to them. Your like neo talking to the women in the red dress about truth. You also need to play the game of this manipulative world. Tell them in the future I want to have kids when I lived my life to the fullest and I have become a successful man. Because tbh don’t be unrealistic with yourself 20 years from now you might change your mind not in terms of how you view women and how you should treat in terms of red pill but your legacy. You would really want one of your own to take over your business.

I have the same problem because I do want to have kids but in terms of the knowledge I learned I don’t want none but I do need one of my own to take over my business so basically I’m just going to be a single dad and make sure she sign the kid over me through court pay the bitch off with the money before we even have the kid like a plan thing almost like a egg donor. Lmao

__Vandetta__ · 2020-11-02T00:49:18+00:00

I just want artificial wombs to come along so I can clone myself and genetically alter the kid to be biologically better than me...

dustobusto · 2020-11-02T23:16:03+00:00

36 years old here. I am married but, we are not having children. It's NOBODY'S BUSINESS whether or not you want to have children. It's your personal choice and you have no obligation. It has nothing to do with ego. In fact, the religions and spiritual practices which revolve around effacing the ego also encourages renunciation and avoiding marriage. They're hypocritically projecting their own ego based desires into you. It's a joke.

Read the Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna to learn about how to be neither married not a father and be egoless.

If it's service they're after, serving your own child actually just creates another mouth to feed. You can serrve by adopting children, or join the peace corps, become a vet, and millions of other ways to avoid an egotistical life. They sound like they assume you are serving only your own interests and somehow not having children magically erases your ability to be a good civil servant. It's garbage.

Exfiltrate · 2020-11-03T00:04:00+00:00

Why are you concerned about being brutally honest to people who won’t get it? Tell them you’ll have kids when you’re ready.

If it never happens, it doesn’t happen. Trying to keep telling them you never wanna have kids is going to get you nowhere. Open up to your therapist or friends, not your parents, especially when it’s just going to strain the relationship.

monk2019 · 2020-11-03T11:53:23+00:00

You dont have to decide now, and whatever choice you make will be your choice. If you feel like you arent gonna want children thats ok. Just know that a lot of people dont like it because it doesnt fit the "narrative". Im currently 22, without a gf or anything, i get constant "you seeing girls?" Questions from everywhere, usually i answer: "not right now im still searching for the right one". People dont need to know i dont have interest in dating right now, maybe later, maybe if something comes on my path, untill then no.

Tldr, just tell them you will have children if you meet the right women (we all know that isnt gonna happen but they dont know).

speedandanal · 2020-11-15T22:04:15+00:00

Children...give or take but id say dont be afraid to get into a real relationship before completele swearing them off, hey maybe your the guy who turns from chad to megachad.

Title	Parents
Author	498483838383
Upvotes	1
Comments	31
Date	November 1, 2020 9:26 AM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW2
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