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Circumcision - One Baby's Experience

akfoeagkopemg

March 18, 2019
29 upvotes
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Title Circumcision - One Baby's Experience
Author

akfoeagkopemg

Upvotes 29
Comments 13
Date March 18, 2019 3:48 AM UTC
(7 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/b2dz5k/circumcision_one_babys_experience/
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Comments

[–]lastlaugh100 13 points14 points15 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

2019 and people still think taking a healthy baby boy and cutting off part of his penis is a good thing. Fucking makes me sick.

How about we take your brand new iPhone and smash the screen?

Or take your brand new car and smash the windshield?

Destroying something new is the American way.

[+]choard18 -8 points-7 points-6 points 7 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

Pretty nasty stuff. Thank god i havent had a kid because im not ready to even think about deciding what to do down there.

[–]Not_My_Real_Name_DUH 18 points19 points20 points 7 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link

Nothing. It's not your fucking penis.

[+]choard18 -20 points-19 points-18 points 7 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

No but it is my kid right? Dont jump on me. I was circumcised. Yea i know its fucked up. Thats why its something im conflicted over.

[–]Muesli_nom 15 points16 points17 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No but it is my kid right?

It is "your kid" as in "it is your ward", i.e. your responsibility to see that it gets the best start into life you can offer.

It is not "your kid" in the sense of "it's yours to do with as you please", i.e. like you would say "but it is my cake".

Unless there's an actual medical necessity to lay hands on your kid, it just is not your decision to make - and even in the case of an actual medical necessity, the only reason you get to decide is because the kid cannot yet decide for him- or herself, but the decision needs to be made.

[–]Gogos1074 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

You know it’s fucked up why are you conflicted then

[–]intactisnormal 7 points8 points9 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

No but it is my kid right?

The concept you are looking for is medical necessity. If surgery is medically necessary then you act. But if it's not medically necessary then the decision goes to the patient, later in life if necessary.

The Canadian Paediatrics Society puts it well:

Neonatal circumcision is a contentious issue in Canada. The procedure often raises ethical and legal considerations, in part because it has lifelong consequences and is performed on a child who cannot give consent. Infants need a substitute decision maker – usually their parents – to act in their best interests. Yet the authority of substitute decision makers is not absolute. In most jurisdictions, authority is limited only to interventions deemed to be medically necessary. In cases in which medical necessity is not established or a proposed treatment is based on personal preference, interventions should be deferred until the individual concerned is able to make their own choices. With newborn circumcision, medical necessity has not been clearly established.

http://www.cps.ca/documents/position/circumcision

I suggest reading that paper, it has all the stats on the talking points. And the stats are terrible. Circumcision is not medically necessary.

[–]HellrockBones 12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

"No but it is my kid right?" Please never have children

[+]choard18 -11 points-10 points-9 points 7 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Look i get a lot of people are passionate about this. All im saying is that its not a decision they can make on their own at that age and i havent made up my mind on what to do yet.

[–]carbot117 11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

You just said you know it’s fucked up?

[–]choard18 -2 points-1 points0 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Yes. Its like i can't convice myself to do one thing or the other. I dont plan on having kids anytime soon ill tell you that. Its like i was raised to think uncircumcised penises are gross when its not true

[–]carbot117 11 points12 points13 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I see. The cultural conditioning is very strong in America. I myself was cut as an infant, but I looked into the anatomical significance of the structure they excise and also watched a few infant circumcision videos, and I definitely understand now that this something that should never be done to a fragile infant. It’s genital mutilation beyond any doubt.

Infant Circumcision Video - https://youtu.be/6c4Yq0nqhhA

Educational Foreskin Anatomy Video - https://youtu.be/s6on8BsMrsg

[–]RockmanXX 8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

What the fuck is so hard about just leaving the baby as it is? Do you have to force it on your baby to convince yourself that its okay to be mutilated?

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