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"Debunking more MRA stats."

Super_Ultra_5031

May 13, 2020
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Title "Debunking more MRA stats."
Author

Super_Ultra_5031

Upvotes 0
Comments 3
Date May 13, 2020 1:54 AM UTC
(6 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/gipith/debunking_more_mra_stats/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/debunking-more-mra-stats.852642
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Comments

[–]Super_Ultra_5031 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

  1. Women are treated better in all aspects of the legal system. For instance, women receive lighter sentences and a higher chance of acquittal, simply for being women.
    1. Claims that women are seen as inferior so therefore are protected. That doesn't make sense. If something is "inferior," what's the point of protecting it? No, the fact of the matter is that men are given harsher sentencing because they're seen as flawed, disposable, and expendable. Society doesn't care about them.
  2. The feminist definition of domestic violence has skewed arrest and prosecution philosophies, resulting in having mostly male batterers criminally pursued, and female batterers left alone.
    1. Someone's never heard of the Duluth Model, it looks like.
  3. It is legal to circumcise male babies against their will. In some places, laws have been passed which forbid any attempts to make male circumcision illegal. Meanwhile, female circumcision is completely illegal, even though some types of female circumcision are equivalent in harm to male circumcision, and other types (a symbolic prick to draw blood) are non-harmful.
    1. Admits it's true, but tries to derail it by making it about women.
  4. Men commit suicide at over triple the rate that women do.
    1. Tries to derail it by saying women attempt it more. But men are the one's actually dying, so the point still stands.
  5. The vast majority of prisoners are men.
    1. Claims its irrelevant, since men use violence against other men. How does that make it irrelevant? It's still true and it's a problem that needs to be acknowledged.
  6. Men are doing worse in all aspects of the educational system, from kindergarten to university.
    1. Doesn't understand how this is oppressive against males. Boys are treated as inferior for being naturally more energetic than girls, so they get drugged. It's also been proven that there is an education bias against males.
  7. Men who are falsely accused of rape can have their names published and their lives ruined even if they are not convicted or charged – their accuser is protected and is likely to face no punishment, or a light one.
    1. Claims the same applies to women. It clearly doesn't. In fact, many of the things that women do that should be classified as rape aren't. Many try to flip it around to make the woman in question seem like the victim. Women are also much less likely to get falsely accused. In all cases, the man is much less likely to be believed or expect sympathy.
  8. Reproductive rights. Men have none. Simply read this story.
    1. Claims men have all their reproductive rights. They don't, as we see examples further in the blog. He tries to twist it on MRAs by saying that they want to control women's rights, as evidenced by nothing and no-one ever.
  9. Parental rights. Men have virtually none. See below.
    1. He doesn't bother doing his research, even though evidence is supported. He basically gives up and tries to call them irrelevant.
  10. The majority of homeless are men.
    1. There's no real argument. He tries to limit it to culture, but world-wide, most homeless people are men.
  11. Despite men’s need being arguably greater than women, government spending to help women is 10 to 100 times greater than that to help men. That figure is unrelated to medical spending.
    1. He gets angry and claims the opposite. No evidence is presented.
  12. Female-owned businesses get free government money for literally no reason other than being a woman (i.e. all other factors are equal, same size of business, same income, etc. etc. but the owner’s gender is different = money or no money.
    1. He doesn't even try to debunk this, but it's true nonetheless.
  13. On some airlines, men were banned from sitting next to kids on airplanes, simply because they were men. Why? Because men are pedophiles, obviously. This ban remains on some airlines, such as Air New Zealand.
    1. Claims this is just male entitlement and has nothing to do with gender. Ignores the whole issue of men being seen as potential pedophiles, but women are perfect.
  14. Under a recent federal directive, men are convicted of rape in university campuses if the investigating board finds that the chances they committed the rape are at 50.00001% or greater.
    1. Doesn't understand that men are more likely to be seen as rapists.
  15. Selective service. Enough said.
    1. Claims it's sexist to women because they're seen as the weaker sex. No, it's sexist to men because they're seen as the disposable sex.

​

He concludes that MRAs are all about women-hating, even though none of the above was virtually misogynistic.

[–]NotherThrowaway284 4 points5 points6 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

As you've discovered, it's hard to argue with someone who has no intention of listening.

If try to actually engage with this guy one-on-one I wish you success, but I'm pretty sure it'll be an exercise in futility.

[–]Super_Ultra_5031 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks, but he hasn’t posted anything in over a year. I doubt he’ll actually read this, TBH.

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