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So it's the schadenfreude that you really resent, then, right? But now ask yourself: Whence does that schadenfreude originate? What cultural phenomena inspired it to be so bitter in some guys? I mean, it didn't always used to be like this, did it? So when did it change and what changed it?
/r/MensRights30/06/21 06:04 AM
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it's not so much about demanding women with unrealistic expectations in their partners. The author's point in using that title was that it might be. She is sympathetic to these women, clearly, but not unambiguously so. I hate these sorts of articles because it paints older women as desperate-but-picky That I already knew. But none of this is u/cokelite's fault. I don't think your snarky attack is at all justified.
/r/MensRights30/06/21 06:00 AM
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??? "Are university-educated women in Singapore asking too much for marriage?" u/cokelite says "Yes." Reasonable enough, as would be any debate over it. Where's the reading comprehension problem in this?? For those who want to check the article: https://archive.fo/ELRE0 Be forewarned, though, that the title is click bait when compared against the actual essay, which is much more ambivalent than the title suggests. But that is hardly u/cokelite's fault, so I don't know where u/throwawayyo27890's …
/r/MensRights30/06/21 05:53 AM
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You're not wrong.
/r/MensRights24/06/21 11:31 PM
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no subreddit seems to allow freedom of speech This one does. They have some restrictions, but that's so the subreddit won't get quarantined. I just don't understand how women athletes aren't completely outraged by this. I'll bet money most of them are, but they're also too afraid to speak out. The gender theory/"trans rights" ideologues are on an absolute witch hunt and have been for more than half a decade now. Ironic, isn't it? To see women hoist on feminist theory's own petard like this and j…
/r/MensRights24/06/21 11:29 PM
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I had to learn this the hard way a long time ago: ideologues don't listen to evidence: they don't even care about it at the end of the day. The only thing that will really destroy their ideology is turning it against them. Use all their favorite tools to paint them as the "oppressors" and start carving out all sorts of special benefits for the people they hate the most, and very quickly these intersectional wokesters will come to despise wokeness. Witch hunts end when the hunters become hunted.
/r/MensRights24/06/21 05:40 PM
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Do you live in a country that has laws against defamation of character? If so, you could sue for defamation (but make sure your case really does meet the criteria or you'll just have wasted money on top of everything else).
/r/MensRights24/06/21 05:36 PM
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^ ^ That is absolutely true--very good point. I don't deny it's a pejorative, though: I only deny that we ought to make a big deal about it.
/r/MensRights24/06/21 05:25 PM
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Get a hold of yourself, mate. I've been and posted on this subreddit for years now. Check my post history--who I am and what my priorities are is right there for all to see. This sub is indeed about men's rights and I say whinging, whining, and foot-stomping about oh-so-nasty words that some bitter women use against men is juvenile and stupid. It is the exact thing self-obsessed feminists do constantly. My reply to it and this is to quote one of my absolute favorite moments on tv news: "Sticks a…
/r/MensRights24/06/21 05:24 PM
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I didn't. I just said I didn't think the term was that big of a deal and my point wasn't "Oh, but women have it sooo much worse! ^>sob!< " Not at all. My point, rather, was and is that terms like "neckbeard" or "incel" should not be fighting matters.
/r/MensRights24/06/21 12:13 AM
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No, I really don't think it's a big deal. Is the term offensive? Of course. Should we freak out about it? No. Feminists constantly freak out about "offensive terms" and thereby guarantee that in a billion years they will never get over themselves (as women they will never get over themselves, I mean, not just individually). Theirs is not an example we should follow.
/r/MensRights24/06/21 12:11 AM
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Big deal. The word "whore" has been around a lot longer than "neckbeard." Also, I'll bet you $20 "neckbeard" was first coined by a man and popularized by men, not by women.
/r/MensRights23/06/21 09:36 PM
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No, you cannot speak to someone who has no interest in listening.
/r/MensRights23/06/21 02:31 AM
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^ ^ That looks to me like a philosophical statement, though, right?
/r/MensRights22/06/21 05:11 AM
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Google uses it to track online activity and to increase its control over how content creation and monetization occur. Anyone who thinks they're doing this to be nice is smoking hash. One upside to AMP, though, is pages load faster in it and there often are fewer visible ads on pages (I mean, some people do still see ads on the internet, right?).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/06/21 06:00 PM
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De-AMPed version: https://archive.fo/031Nf
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/06/21 04:12 PM
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The kind of marriage arrangement you're envisioning would work great with robots that just did pure cost/benefit calculations and possessed no overriding desires, but that is not how humans work. Women of almost any age prefer men their own age or slightly older. Men of almost any age prefer women aged between 19 and 23. Those two facts set the parameters within which men and women both will make their respective calculations.
/r/MGTOW219/06/21 02:27 AM
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Perfect. You want to get in touch with Mark Perry at aei.org. He has made himself a nice little side hustle of suing schools that do things like this. Nearly all settle and those that don't lose in court. He's good at it.
/r/MensRights18/06/21 02:15 AM
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How do you combat this? By having something else I care about more.
/r/MGTOW217/06/21 08:07 PM
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[I]f you wanna advocate men's mental health you gotta advocate it all, not just what you accept as 'normal' Riigghht. So now go explicitly demand such moral permissiveness about male pedophiles, European Bob, and see how it plays out. No honest human being disputes the existence of moral limits in sexuality: the only meaningful debate is over where those limits are to be. It's all so predictable. >Honk, honk!<
/r/MGTOW217/06/21 07:55 PM
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Came to post it; saw you already did. Love that band! Official Video Version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtylVwuAEpc
/r/MGTOW216/06/21 07:34 PM
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she is bitter about being a spinster, and wishes people would call left over women something fancy. "Desiccated husk?" No, that's the wrong type of fancy, isn't it?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/06/21 12:29 AM
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That is the perfect description of 21st century digital alienation and numbness. It doesn't just describe a type of woman: it describes this decade.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/06/21 12:24 AM
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It's capitalism mate. You just need to know two things to explain it. Women control most of the household budget. Women have a massive in group bias. ^ ^ That really nails it right there. Whole post is gold (which I'd give if I had any...).
/r/MensRights14/06/21 04:41 PM
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Perhaps I didn't state my point clearly: 40k is a lot of upvotes for a single post relative to the norm on Reddit. I would not call that post "unpopular."
/r/MensRights13/06/21 06:28 PM
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300k members on the whole sub. That was a single post and it got 40k upvotes. Big difference there.
/r/MensRights13/06/21 05:36 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTiba4ElD0U ^ ^ The full episode of Buckley Jr.'s show is well worth watching. It's extraordinary the extent to which people were actually willing civilly to discuss and debate these questions back then. Of course, back then people didn't threaten to kill you for doing so...
/r/MensRights12/06/21 11:52 PM
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Can it really be an unpopular opinion if it's closing in on 40,000 upvotes? I'd say it's crossed over into "popular," maybe even verging on "very popular."
/r/MensRights12/06/21 10:43 PM
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Before conducting a rational conversation with someone, determine if they are a rational person. Saves a lot of time.
/r/MensRights11/06/21 11:41 PM
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Any man contemplating marriage should run this simple experiment: Find two local divorce lawyers who are going broke. If you can't, don't marry.
/r/MGTOW211/06/21 05:04 PM
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It's satire, but the problem you're noticing is that satire and actual current events keep growing closer together. That's probably one of the axioms of Clown World, you know?
/r/MGTOW211/06/21 05:02 PM
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The religious discipline you're most likely to be interested in is called Tantrayana or, more popularly, Tantric Buddhism; it's a branch of Tibetan Buddhism that emphasizes productively refocusing sexual energy.
/r/MGTOW209/06/21 08:58 PM
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There is one kind of proof women really do care about: proof of commitment.
/r/MGTOW209/06/21 03:23 PM
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Glad you're doing well now, man. I had to discover it over time, too: solitude grows sweeter over time, but only if you let it. Eventually it became one of my most treasured things in life. Other people lead such noisy lives and I find myself very grateful to be apart from all that.
/r/MGTOW208/06/21 07:10 PM
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One-on-one interactions like these have nothing close to the scope and reach of widespread media campaigns, but they do have more profound, more reliable lasting influence than such campaigns. Therefore, no one here should ever underestimate the value of what you're doing. Thank you for it.
/r/MensRights08/06/21 07:01 PM
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All moves are dangerous on that right now. Have you considered just going outright ex-pat in a country more favorable to men? That's about the only reliable maneuver I see that still involves having a family and all that.
/r/MensRights05/06/21 04:59 AM
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A heavily de-AMPed link: https://archive.fo/MAtQT
/r/MensRights05/06/21 04:47 AM
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Lately? In the U.S.? No, it's just a bad idea for a man now. The societal and legal systems surrounding it are hopelessly lopsided and broken.
/r/MensRights05/06/21 04:45 AM
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"...above her weight." Not sure that's the most apt metaphor here.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen05/06/21 12:52 AM
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^ ^ What Grampa said.
/r/MGTOW203/06/21 12:43 AM
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Meh. So what?
/r/MGTOW203/06/21 12:42 AM
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Have you noticed all the single mothers around? Would you call them "mature?"
/r/MGTOW228/05/21 12:40 PM
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Mangey floating women outside the window eating heads off ravens? That ain't weed; that ain't even boat; that there's some serious Class D felony stuff right there. Peyote, mushrooms, acid, MDMA--something like that.
/r/MGTOW228/05/21 02:21 AM
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I don't think inhalation is the delivery system in this case.
/r/MGTOW228/05/21 02:02 AM
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"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but there'll always be something to offend a feminist."
/r/MensRights26/05/21 11:31 PM
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I agree. This is the only way left to change schools for the better: sue them until they bleed, then sue the blood out of them. After a few successful cases of that the rest of them will start to get the message, but not until then.
/r/MensRights26/05/21 11:29 PM
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Because the internet just isn't bitter-minded enough yet and because tit-for-tat is always, always, always the right thing to do. My next voting choice is set: Giant Meteor 2024 This planet is not worth saving.
/r/MensRights26/05/21 05:22 PM
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Under a translation I (and likely others) say is accurate, her post could be rephrased as: "When nothing else entertains me, I just like to damage other people's hopes for happiness." Suppose this translation correct; are you still wondering what you should do?
/r/MGTOW226/05/21 02:19 AM
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This is why I support a man's right to financial abortion.
/r/MensRights25/05/21 06:45 PM
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TikTok mother says her baby son is awful because he's white Should'a fucked a black guy, then, Sunshine. Problem solved.
/r/MensRights23/05/21 08:22 PM
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You need to "escape the formatting" because Red-ditzers uses the asterisk for italics. I just did asterisks, but you can't see them. *I just did more asterisks, but now you can see them.* The back-slash "" is what you need just before each asterisk you want to be visible.
/r/PussyPassDenied23/05/21 04:31 AM
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I certainly agree that the one group is not advocating for abortion as if it were swell and nifty, or something, but I still wholly disagree with the claim that "pro-choice" and "anti-choice" even remotely manage to capture in a neutral and impartial way the distinction that you (rightly, I say) want to capture. If we were to use genuinely neutral, intellectually honest language to describe it while simultaneously keeping our description accurate, I think your final suggestion is the right one: …
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/21 03:48 AM
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I completely disagree: it absolutely is a spin. Its activist proponents, regardless of any of the things they say they intend, have for decades consciously employed the term in order to pigeonhole opponents into being "anti-choice." (See? It even sounds nasty and mean-spirited before the question, "Choice about what?" has a chance of getting asked.) The same is true on the other side: they try to pigeonhole defenders of abortion rights into being "anti-life." (Thrice nasty!) It is for this reaso…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/05/21 03:39 AM
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See my reply to u/Old-Compote-9991 above. It isn't the positions that I take issue with; it's the attempt to spin them. People who focus so hard on "framing the debate"--what they're really trying to do is shut down the debate. I will never make peace with that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/21 06:58 PM
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Bullshit. Dishonest rhetoric is dishonest rhetoric no matter which side employs it. That's why I refuse to use either term or join either "camp" (they only started getting called "camps" in the 90s, which I find informative). One side opposes abortion rights and the other supports them. The most honest language for describing that is the old language we used in the 70s: anti-abortion and pro-abortion. And that's the language I use--not because of favoring either side (I don't), but because of in…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/21 06:56 PM
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This will go before the Supreme Court.
/r/MensRights19/05/21 05:00 AM
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Not anymore. Thirty years ago I would've agreed, but today the terrain is very different from what those old maps say. Oh, and if you're going to insist on the "pro-choice" linguistic rhetoric, then you'd better equally insist on the "pro-life" linguistic rhetoric, right?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/05/21 04:58 AM
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Sorry, but no. Being pro-abortion or anti-abortion is a separate matter from being Left or Right. There is some overlap there, but still a lot of deviation.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/05/21 04:29 AM
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Worldwide? Very unlikely, I'd say. (To the the tune of "Hell, no.") In the Anglophone West? Yes.
/r/MensRights15/05/21 03:41 AM
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Good. Sue them until they go out of business. Anymore that's the only thing that can actually reform the business.
/r/MensRights11/05/21 06:36 PM
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I too love to pick cherries. (Difference is, mine are the edible kind...)
/r/MensRights11/05/21 12:20 AM
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We’re supposed to be better than what’s out there. We are indeed supposed to, but one thing the internet has taught me: people become whatever they spend all their time interacting with, not whatever they aspire to. And when we hop onto the internet and interact with each other on these subreddits, what sorts of demeanors do we mostly encounter? That's why the internet sucks.
/r/MensRights10/05/21 11:46 PM
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Look, I understand that argument and do not disrespect it. Ultimately, though, I disagree with it for the same reasons I disagree with pacifism: war is upon whether we would choose it or not and the high-minded things you advocate are no way to fight a war. They absolutely are the correct approach in peace time, but never in war. We're inside a zero-sum game because cultural ideologues have very self-consciously turned it into one. Therefore, my position is start playing it like one.
/r/MensRights09/05/21 07:04 PM
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If people would listen, that would work. The problem is that they won't.
/r/MensRights09/05/21 05:15 PM
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Dude, believe me--I wish that were an option. Fifteen years ago I think it still was. Today it just isn't.
/r/MensRights09/05/21 03:57 AM
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You really don't seem to be understand the big difference In abortion and financial abortion. In one the child doesn't exist in the other the child does but goes on welfare. Wrong. In one the child dies and in the other it doesn't. Both people have a financial responsibility to the child but since the baby is in the mother's body she has the choice of carrying it to term. Bullshit. Where I have no say I have no obligations, period.
/r/MensRights09/05/21 03:56 AM
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It is all well and good censoring people you disagree with but what happens when the people decide you should be censored? No, you're still not quite seeing my claim, I think: "[W]hat happens when the people decide you should be censored?" That's exactly my point: these cultural witch hunts only ever really end when the hunters become hunted. I am not advocating such hunts; I find them morally repugnant as I also find the witch hunters. Because I'm convinced there no longer is any turning back o…
/r/MensRights08/05/21 06:20 PM
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What your talking about taking a mother's kids away which would have to be done by the government. And once more you spectacularly missed the point. I gave a reductio ad absurdum against your position by showing how it would play out if we applied the exact same criteria to women. You failed even to notice I'd given a reductio. All so predictable... How about men stop having sex with women until marriage. How about women stop having sex until marriage in order to prevent unwanted pregnancies, th…
/r/MensRights08/05/21 06:15 PM
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Right, but why is it no one complains about a single mother who fails to financially support her children but still feels entitled to have a bunch of them? Neither the state nor a man who has no say in the pregnancies should be paying for that. If she can't support them, she shouldn't have them. Bring them to term and then put them up for adoption by people who are more equipped and competent to raise them. Oh!--or, or does all that seem harsh, inconsiderate, and morally presumptuous, perhaps? M…
/r/MensRights08/05/21 04:53 AM
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Isn't that exactly what she already does?
/r/MensRights08/05/21 04:43 AM
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I disagree. I fully support using the left's own social and rhetorical weapons against them. I say this even thought I actually agree with you about freedom of speech, mind you. It's just that they really have turned this whole thing into a pure zero-sum game and therefore it is beyond foolish to fail to play it as one.
/r/MensRights07/05/21 11:58 PM
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https://archive.fo/2W9JD
/r/MensRights06/05/21 04:32 PM
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Lemme just de-AMP that feller for ye: https://archive.fo/FEs66
/r/MGTOW205/05/21 06:18 AM
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It was never about evidence for them. As feminists see it, evidence is just another weapon to be used when convenient.
/r/MensRights04/05/21 10:07 PM
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That place is dead. It died a long time ago.
/r/MGTOW204/05/21 04:21 AM
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Aren't comedians supposed to be funny? No PP. No D. No dice.
/r/PussyPassDenied04/05/21 12:53 AM
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https://archive.fo/4VrOK Ther internet is always good for a laugh. Sometimes it's all just so sad too, though, you know? I mean, twenty or thirty years ago who'd have thought this would be humanity's moral arc? Fuck it. There's nothing in this species morally worth saving anymore. I'm drinking tonight.
/r/MensRights03/05/21 09:51 PM
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The Lagavulin, I say, is an especially good choice. Enjoy and happy birthday, u/zawpi.
/r/MGTOW203/05/21 09:24 PM
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You're being juvenile. I don't need to resent or look down on someone in order to disagree with their decisions. Neither should you.
/r/MGTOW203/05/21 09:22 PM
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So the grapes look sour, eh?
/r/MGTOW203/05/21 09:17 PM
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Don't think you're going to see any billionaires classified as "losers." That just isn't how this works.
/r/MGTOW203/05/21 09:12 PM
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Where's the D in this supposed PPD?
/r/PussyPassDenied03/05/21 09:10 PM
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Petty tales about petty infractions by unbelievably petty people (Heard in this case). I mean, her dogs?? I simply refuse to give a shit about this.
/r/MensRights01/05/21 01:44 AM
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Got a lawyer? Get one. There's gold in them thar hills.
/r/MensRights28/04/21 08:58 PM
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An idea to prevent this sub from turning into another incel sub: Ban all discussion about women. That's exactly what we used to do: there used to be no discussion of women, period. They changed the sub rules maybe a year and a half ago to allow such conversations and since then the focus on women has steadily grown.
/r/MGTOW228/04/21 02:18 AM
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Looks like his old blog is gone anyway.
/r/MGTOW227/04/21 12:07 AM
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It only works if you're a female accusing a man. So "gender identify" as female just before filing the complaint. It's a system, right? Systems get gamed.
/r/MensRights23/04/21 01:20 PM
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What in gods name does this have to do with mens rights? Following is the title of the post immediately below this one: "Australian Politicians blame men for surge in false allegations of Domestic Violence" [my emphasis] http://www.familylawexpress.com.au/family-law-news/familyviolence/falseallegations/queensland-mps-blame-men-for-surge-in-fake-domestic-violence-orders/3310/ It has everything to do with men's rights because it has everything to do with feminists' lies about domestic violence and…
/r/MensRights23/04/21 01:07 PM
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What breathless screeds, I wonder, would they then write about ç?
/r/MensRights23/04/21 01:00 PM
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IMO this isn't actual sexism: it's just the law of unintended consequences being the cold-hearted bitch it always is. Of course, I would say the same if they went ahead with the Astra-Zeneca vaccine despite these concerns.
/r/MensRights07/04/21 12:52 PM
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This, I say, is the correct approach: make the lawsuits over these policies and practices lucrative and the whole thing will solve itself in little time. Lawyers are always hungry out there and ever-ready to exploit some new industry, aft erall, so if college men start suing schools en masse over the Title IX excesses, it'll become a cottage industry and that'll become too daunting a cost to the schools for them to continue their ideological behaviors. That'll change their policies faster than a…
/r/MensRights05/04/21 02:43 AM
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The fallacy you've identified is called the ad hominem abusive; even in the world of fallacies it is the most primitive, neanderthalic species of reasoning known to exist. (See what I did there?)
/r/MensRights04/04/21 06:42 PM
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Oh--I had no idea. That's too bad.
/r/MensRights03/04/21 02:53 PM
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arr/femradebates
/r/MensRights01/04/21 11:20 PM
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The habits you build are who you are; the things you have are mere trappings. You're on the right path.
/r/MGTOW229/03/21 03:33 AM
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https://archive.fo/c0y08 Well, that settles it, then, doesn't it? I mean, who would ever doubt the word of the Guardian?
/r/MensRights12/03/21 02:44 PM
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Read the history on this before deciding to be so morally optimistic.
/r/MensRights09/03/21 06:15 PM
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https://www.altcensored.com/watch?v=MAlI-RXLk1E
/r/MensRights07/03/21 04:03 PM
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Women think first and foremost in terms of relationships. Anytime their public social status is threatened, those relationships are threatened and this terrifies them into compliance. It never occurs to them that men might not care nearly so much about public perception or, for that matter, relationships. Even after they're told this, they never can quite get themselves to believe it (they will always regard the female mind as the moral and psychological baseline). Therefore, they reason that at…
/r/MGTOW205/03/21 12:08 AM
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Yes.
/r/MGTOW204/03/21 03:38 PM
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Yeah, it's gotten much, much worse in the past month or two; I've noticed it and wondered if the mods couldn't swing the ban hammer more freely. If these bitter weenies want to post all day about how awful female nature is, let them do it in MGTOW1, not here. P.S.: You were right on about the udon noodles--it totally worked!
/r/MGTOW204/03/21 04:11 AM
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So many pills, So many colors, I feel like a pigeon in a hole. Christ, I fucking hate the internet sometimes...
/r/MGTOW204/03/21 04:05 AM
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Ideologues who want to deny the reality of sexual dimorphism in humans.
/r/MensRights04/03/21 03:05 AM
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Yes, that's it! Sorry for the mix-up, all.
/r/MensRights04/03/21 03:04 AM
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Check out r/egalitarian; they might be right up your alley.
/r/MensRights03/03/21 10:34 PM
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Hasn't stopped 'em from trying, though, has it?
/r/MensRights03/03/21 10:34 PM
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https://archive.fo/J5s6f Blecch!
/r/MGTOW203/03/21 02:19 PM
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https://archive.fo/mYFAg The "Good Men Project" is a pure feminist Trojan horse site; I would not trust a single thing from them, ever.
/r/MGTOW203/03/21 02:18 PM
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I would go on vacation this summer in some country where they will perform such vasectomies and get it done there. EDIT: Just saw you're already planning it; smart man.
/r/MensRights03/03/21 02:07 PM
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individuals in the 55+ age range. On Reddit???? Good luck.
/r/MensRights26/02/21 10:37 PM
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First of all, your girlfriend really is a morally disordered human being for ever thinking such talk even could be acceptable. "Cold-blooded, hate-fueled murder, under the right circumstances, is a perfectly acceptable course of action. I have a moral philosophy that explains this." That is a seriously morally disordered human being right there. So is a person who would use such rhetoric without literally meaning it specifically in order to be intentionally hateful and hurtful (so no way does th…
/r/MensRights26/02/21 10:30 PM
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Oh, yeah--once word about you gets out into their local network, you either have to move or live with a heart-shaped target on your back. I don't know what to tell you, because most of the tricks I know only work if they don't realize you have money. Once they see the money, they will pole-vault over neighbors' eight-foot fences to try to get to you. Sorry, man.
/r/MGTOW226/02/21 02:22 PM
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Dude, if I could upvote or give awards, I would upvote you, give you silver, give whatever I had to give. Instead, I guess I just gotta say "Thank you." Thank you.
/r/MGTOW226/02/21 02:16 PM
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I guess Rick James was right: cocaine is a helluva drug.
/r/MGTOW226/02/21 02:42 AM
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How do they initially find out about your successes? It reads to me like you aren't quite following the way of the grey man. I mean, maybe you're trying, but it looks like you're letting the wrong information leak out somewhere.
/r/MGTOW226/02/21 02:35 AM
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Dude, okay--now you have my attention. I've tried making Udon before and mine have always come out too gummy. Seriously--do you have any tricks for how to prevent that?? I've tried like three or four times now since COVID started and I just cannot seem to get them to come out right. Any tips?
/r/MGTOW226/02/21 02:33 AM
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Theology Economics Reading (all kinds of stuff) Cars (working on them, not just ogling the things) Guns (ditto) Golf Hiking Cooking Chess I don't play console/computer games; they bore me.
/r/MGTOW226/02/21 02:30 AM
3

we have to learn how to perform deconstructive readings No, we don't. Learning to think more honestly and dispassionately is much more useful. And studying some basic sociobiology, like, say, from Richard Dawkins. Deconstruction is for weenies.
/r/MGTOW226/02/21 02:25 AM
6

Manipulation is only possible under a condition of perceived need; once that goes away, so does the leverage.
/r/MGTOW226/02/21 02:15 AM
9

Contac Mark Perry at AEI. The lawsuits for this sort of thing are easier to file than you'd suppose.
/r/MensRights25/02/21 03:24 PM
2

I’d like to add a line item! Not bashing women unnecessarily. I see so much unbridled and undeserved hatred on this sub. That already is Rule 1 on this sub. The problem is that it isn't being enforced with any great consistency anymore, so the incels, rage lords, and "bitches ain't shit" posters are running amok. Under the old rules where no discussion of women was permitted, period, this was a pretty quiet subreddit and I learned a lot from it, but since they loosened the rules it's become...we…
/r/MGTOW225/02/21 02:39 AM
16

That’s fancy talk for stfu Karen. That's how public relations works.
/r/PussyPassDenied24/02/21 10:35 PM
1

Forbes absolutely has not confirmed anything. Yes, he did. He asserted it as a fact, but one on which he was not much focused. He did assert it as a straight-up fact, though. Now, it also looks like when he made that assertion he did so without ever actually checking to confirm his sources on it, which speaks more to the state of journalism today than to anything about your or my reading comprehension skills.
/r/MensRights22/02/21 02:21 PM
1

Maybe the journalist saw the rumor but not the debunk, and thought it was real. Could be, I guess. Journalism ain't what she used to be.
/r/MensRights22/02/21 03:33 AM
1

Okay??? Does that somehow stop it from being the source? EDIT: I just re-checked the Mother of All Nerds post and they explicitly cite the Forbes link as their source.
/r/MensRights21/02/21 11:54 PM
3

Anyone who knows the Guardian will not be surprised. Decency and honesty are now the things most out of place over there.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/02/21 11:33 PM
2

Forbes is already reporting this as genuine: Link I suspect that's where the other sites are getting it from.
/r/MensRights21/02/21 11:26 PM
1

Forbes has said it's real. Looks to me like it's real. Linky link
/r/MensRights21/02/21 11:25 PM
1

Would a golddigger be a perfect example of toxic femininity? No, I think a meddling control freak is.
/r/MensRights21/02/21 11:19 PM
1

Why the bloody hell [d]o feminist[s] defend Islam Because they get called names if they don't.
/r/MensRights19/02/21 01:13 PM
1

I think part of it is social media, which is dominated by women. ^ That's my thinking on it, too.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/02/21 02:36 PM
15

I lived there. I know exactly what I am talking about. It's not racial; it's cultural.
/r/MensRights10/02/21 09:34 PM
9

Indian women are some of the most emotionally abusive human beings on the face of this planet. Seriously.
/r/MensRights10/02/21 09:29 PM
3

Yep.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/21 02:26 AM
3

The only thing that surprised me was when some in the press reported it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/02/21 02:24 AM
6

Bullshit. You're the one who needs to re-watch it. The guy just started moving toward her with a big horny smile on his face (apparently he thought she was hot). That ad was pure morally presumptuous control-freaking misandry and anyone saying it wasn't is either lying or blind.
/r/MGTOW203/02/21 01:50 PM
5

It gets lonely when you are single. Maybe for you. I don't feel loneliness.
/r/MGTOW203/02/21 01:48 PM
5

Ahhhh...ever the stealthy sociologist.
/r/PussyPassDenied03/02/21 01:44 PM
5

You needed the /s after that; the internet doesn't always recognize sarcasm well (no facial expressions or body postures to read).
/r/PussyPassDenied03/02/21 01:41 PM
-3

Gotta be satire.
/r/PussyPassDenied03/02/21 01:40 PM
2

^ ^ There ya go.
/r/MGTOW202/02/21 11:03 PM
5

I don't even care anymore how society sees me. I just want the legal right to opt out.
/r/MensRights02/02/21 10:51 PM
1

What has she done to fight against it?
/r/MGTOW202/02/21 04:24 PM
11

The rule is simple: never be alone with a woman who is not your wife. This applies especially at work but also at any work-related social gatherings.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/02/21 03:05 AM
14

I teach at an American university. Under no circumstance would I ever send my sons to an American university.
/r/MGTOW202/02/21 12:05 AM
17

I follow the Graham/Pence Rule religiously, have done for years, and strongly encourage all men to do likewise. It is a simple matter of risk management and there is literally no upside to forgoing it. The only thing I don't do at the moment is secretly video record all my interactions (my state has laws against it), but this might change soon, too: I won't do it secretly, but I'll have a sign in front of my office announcing the cameras and what they're for.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/02/21 11:59 PM
19

Never mind the vasectomy for a moment: if she's willing to try to do that to you, what else is she willing to do? She's nothing but a plate; drop her.
/r/MGTOW201/02/21 10:18 PM
1

It seems like feminists also oppose marriage And yet somehow the vast majority of them still end up doing it (even Steinem). Funny how that works, eh?
/r/MGTOW231/01/21 05:10 PM
1

You know all those supposedly "gender-neutral" social services that are available to single parents? Don't be stupid enough to count on any.
/r/MGTOW231/01/21 05:07 PM
5

Its necessary to choose one of them. No, it isn't.
/r/MGTOW231/01/21 05:02 PM
8

He's almost the founder of the men's rights movement. I mean, yeah, there were guys like Sam Keane and Robert Bly before him, but they never really thought their way through the phenomenon of male disposability: it was Farrell and Farrell alone who did that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/01/21 04:59 PM
42

Yeah, no kidding.
/r/MensRights31/01/21 04:31 PM
7

https://archive.fo/mnGRW Lies are really all the Guardian has anymore.
/r/MensRights31/01/21 12:10 AM
1

One of the first tricks is to make cooking fun, right? Check out the Yootoobz channel, Life of Boris. Stay cheeki breeki, blin!
/r/MGTOW230/01/21 04:12 PM
3

The best way to let go of something is to grab hold of something else (and no, I absolutely am not talking about another girl). Find something without a crotch that really holds your interest and throw yourself into it full force.
/r/MGTOW230/01/21 01:59 AM
3

Is there really an alternative? Financial abortion.
/r/MensRights29/01/21 11:23 PM
1

I am trying to power through the red pill rage phase [...] Trying to make yourself speed up the process is one of the best ways of screwing yourself up. Give yourself the space and time to feel whatever you're going to feel and just focus on controlling how you respond to those feelings. she has been a crush of mine from before the red pill rage phase 1 and she is a crush currently too. We are good friends, and talk to each other almost daily, but it has been really difficult to not confess my f…
/r/MGTOW229/01/21 10:36 PM
1

By all reports he did not fail; Gandhi kept his vow.
/r/MGTOW229/01/21 10:23 PM
3

Trauma would prevent them talking to anyone, even police [...] This is not how people respond to serious trauma. Different people respond in very different ways where the only real constant I've found is that they all respond with some kind of extreme behavior, but which extremes they go to varies wildly. If the alleged rape occurred more than a span of 2 months, it’s most likely false. Again, this is utterly false. Lots of genuine cases of rape go unreported for months or even years. I think yo…
/r/MensRights29/01/21 10:11 PM
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In essence, hyper-feminism has amplified bystander syndrome to extreme levels, and women may well be literally dying of cardiac arrest because of it. Deranged incentives produce deranged outcomes. If feminists want this to change, first they have to change.
/r/MensRights29/01/21 10:00 PM
3

Books.
/r/MGTOW227/01/21 10:10 PM
3

You're fighting the good fight, u/anahawkinss. I think it'll be a huge uphill climb, but when hasn't it?
/r/MensRights23/01/21 02:23 AM
3

College was a LOT cheaper back when I did it, so I got out with no debt. The prices today are insane.
/r/MGTOW222/01/21 10:23 PM
4

Yeah, the lack of self-awareness in these people is extraordinary.
/r/MGTOW222/01/21 01:43 PM
7

Yeah, I'm aware. And before her Christina Hoff Sommers did it (and did it better, I say) in The War Against Boys.
/r/MensRights22/01/21 01:38 PM
8

Some brave people out there speaking out... Yeah. I worry it's too late, though. I teach at one of those big, sparkly universities and from what I've seen young men aren't just walking away from college: they're walking away from society. I don't think a "course correction" will fix this one. It scares me to think about, but this is what I see happening.
/r/MensRights22/01/21 05:14 AM
8

I interact with people on both the Left and the Right a lot; /u/ShortTailBoa is right: the Right talked about this a ton.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/01/21 11:21 PM
1

You've quite missed my point: I am not using that narrative while believing it; I'm using it to point out its hypocrisy and moral stupidity. Do you see?
/r/MensRights21/01/21 03:44 PM
1

Even RBG herself called those university tribunals kangaroo courts. With Coney Barrett on there it's a done deal.
/r/MensRights21/01/21 03:31 AM
13

Other than tax benefits, Are there any real pros of getting married? Not for men, no.
/r/MGTOW221/01/21 01:55 AM
4

Maybe it’s something to do with mobile but I just see what looks like a woman holding a piece of paper with ‘help’ written on it Ohhh...no, your phone is clipping the image.
/r/MensRights21/01/21 01:53 AM
6

When you start cheering to strip rights away from people to make your life better. You don't get to call yourself a rights group. That becomes a supremacy group. Oh, I quite agree with that: it's just surpassing strange to read that from you of all people on here.
/r/MensRights21/01/21 01:51 AM
1

Okay--we do inhabit radically different moral universes.
/r/MensRights21/01/21 01:23 AM
10

It acknowledges that men sometimes really are the victims of such violence and women really are the perpetrators. If you think that's obvious and no serious person would ever deny it, you haven't argued with many academic feminists yet.
/r/MensRights21/01/21 01:20 AM
1

Yes, stupid people are I suppose marginally less people than smart people. Okay, you and I definitely inhabit radically different moral universes whereby your ponens is my emphatic tollens. I mean, taken seriously that quoted notion would justify eugenics.
/r/MensRights21/01/21 01:17 AM
2

But we had over 100 years of unjust inequality on this and since feminists are just sooo passionate about "dismantling privilege" via affirmative action on these things, we clearly need affirmative action here: 100+ years of women and only women getting drafted into military service with special emphasis on combat duty. Don't worry, love--I'm sure you gals are up to it.
/r/MensRights21/01/21 01:12 AM
2

In this case its a convenient argument that assumes that more men would kill children if they had more time with them. There is no evidence that this is true, only bias. Ahh, I see now. Yeah, I agree--that's daft.
/r/MensRights21/01/21 01:09 AM
1

I completely disagree especially insofar as I cannot find any non-question-begging justification for tying personhood to intelligence. I mean, suppose a philosopher like Harry Frankfurt is right that personhood comes in degrees: are we seriously to infer that stupid people, while persons, are less of persons than smart ones? I find that impossible to believe.
/r/MensRights21/01/21 01:07 AM
5

VAWA was his creation. I suspect he will attempt to make it even more lopsided again. That's my strong suspicion, too.
/r/MensRights20/01/21 11:48 PM
6

Lots of weakly supported feminist special pleading in that article. I think Corrine Barraclough has a far more plausible explanation: https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/kids/why-arent-we-talking-about-abusive-mums/news-story/629b48b93abd22be2b63f1344c0c5de6 71 per cent of children killed by one parent are killed by their mothers, 60 per cent of those victims are boys.
/r/MensRights20/01/21 11:45 PM
3

That does not make them less than children (unless you want to sign on for holding that all severely mentally retarded children are not "real" children, too--seems morally sick to me, but you do you).
/r/MensRights20/01/21 11:40 PM
1

Why? He's appealing to the law of averages: what's wrong with that?
/r/MensRights20/01/21 11:39 PM
7

No, it would be cheering for actual equality, which you understandably do not like.
/r/MensRights20/01/21 11:35 PM
6

Not only should they be drafted, but in the interest of "equity" and "righting past wrongs" America should spend the next hundred years reinstating the draft and making only women register for it. While they're off fighting and dying, we'll get together and have conferences on toxic femininity and how to combat it.
/r/MensRights20/01/21 11:34 PM
12

Yeah, they are; it's a defining condition of membership in that sub, just like u/69_Watermelon_420 noted.
/r/MensRights20/01/21 06:39 PM
15

Not on this sub, no. If that's the group you want, try r/menslib; all the men over there are male feminists.
/r/MensRights20/01/21 05:50 PM
1

^ Wish I could upvote this.
/r/MGTOW220/01/21 05:47 PM
3

^ ^ Who in Hell was butthurt enough to downvote this??? u/Blauwpetje simply explained the lack of precise defnitions in the linked article; what exactly is supposed to be wrong with that???
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates20/01/21 05:42 PM
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I've said it before, but I'll say it again: the day this goes to the Supreme Court is the day the whole thing irretrievably explodes. They will lose everything and the decision will be at least 7-2. The sooner the better.
/r/MensRights20/01/21 05:30 PM
5

My doggo comes first. Well, certainly punctuation doesn't.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/01/21 03:49 PM
3

Well, I'm probably more surprised than average since my bullshit meter is quite sensitive and that's why I've never been on a dating app... Me neither, but I guess I'm still unsurprised because I got cynical and misanthropic at an early age.
/r/MGTOW220/01/21 03:26 PM
7

I see nothing in there that surprises me.
/r/MGTOW220/01/21 06:39 AM
6

Now you see the truth. You don't like it, but you do see it.
/r/MGTOW220/01/21 06:29 AM
2

She wanted you on her chain and thought she could put you there. Move on and forget about it. I mean, why is she even still in your head?
/r/MGTOW220/01/21 12:51 AM
17

See? Feminist speech really is hate speech.
/r/MensRights20/01/21 12:19 AM
31

What is Positive or Good Masculinity Any masculinity that women do not control.
/r/MensRights20/01/21 12:18 AM
5

"It's not about the money..."
/r/MGTOW219/01/21 10:18 PM
3

Are you telling us a Terminator T-1000 somehow found a way to reproduce??!! That--that is some next-level scary shit.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen19/01/21 03:49 AM
17

This is pretty much the reason I abandoned both feminism and everything of contemporary identity politics. Well done, Tin Man. Well done.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/01/21 03:19 PM
2

Sometimes it is an echo chamber and that's not specific to MGTOW: social media almost lives on the echo chamber phenomenon. If what you want is advice on how to avoid echo chambers, I'll say always make it your conscious business to spend real time and energy talking and listening to people who completely disagree with you and, most especially, with each other. Never let any one group gain control--implicit or explicit--over what you read, hear, or think. This is how I manage it, anyway.
/r/MGTOW218/01/21 03:12 PM
3

I learned from working in a restaurant while finishing my degree, but one needn't go to such lengths. Get a really simple, basic, any-idiot-can-do-this cookbook (there are many), start doing a few of the recipes, make it a rule for yourself that whatever you cook you must eat, and pretty soon you'll be making respectable dishes. Once comfy at that level you can start branching out to the fancier dishes (creme brule takes a lot more work than common sense suggests...). P.S.: Slow cookers and inst…
/r/MGTOW218/01/21 03:06 PM
3

Don't procrastinate getting to work on your own personality: it's the most important thing any human being can fix.
/r/MGTOW217/01/21 03:13 AM
1

Not everyone who wants to break free is actually willing to do it. It's kind of like skydiving: the concept is great, but the execution can get scary, so a lot of people chicken out.
/r/MGTOW217/01/21 03:10 AM
3

Why should other people's opinions guide you in this?
/r/MGTOW216/01/21 03:05 PM
1

An adult human with the XY chromosome. Kind of a weird question if you ask me...
/r/MGTOW216/01/21 03:04 PM
5

Yeah, that's about the only real option left to him at this point. Seconded.
/r/MGTOW215/01/21 01:20 AM
2

Worthwhile tasks usually require more effort than that. I had to go literally all the way across the globe and live in a monastery for two years to free my mind. It worked, but it was neither quick nor easy. It's all about what it's worth to you.
/r/MGTOW215/01/21 01:18 AM
46

Any guy on here who tells you MGTOWs can't have non-cohabiting relationships with women is lying. Of course you can. Some of us won't as a matter of cost/benefit calculation, but you totally can.
/r/MGTOW215/01/21 01:15 AM
3

Oh, I see now. Yes, their hypocrisy is demonstrable.
/r/MGTOW213/01/21 10:20 PM
3

??? I just watched it. It has nothing in the cosmos to do with MGTOW; it's just a fawning documentary about revolutionary feminism a la the 70s and 80s. That's it.
/r/MGTOW213/01/21 10:16 PM
7

All that energy that you would have put into women: can you not put it into something else that's more rewarding and worthwhile? Something that will truly pay you back for your efforts?
/r/MGTOW213/01/21 04:36 PM
5

Looks like, yeah: https://archive.fo/46hfU
/r/PussyPassDenied13/01/21 04:31 PM
1

We try to delete most bitching-about-women posts on here, but if there are some that folks haven't caught, do feel free to report them. The mods around here work hard on that stuff.
/r/MGTOW213/01/21 05:56 AM
1

It just means your definition does not require bachelorhood (it'll be easier for a bachelor to meet that definition, but that's all--just easier), so if your definition were correct, a married man who wasn't pussywhipped easily could qualify as MGTOW. But on your own account in this conversation, that's goofy. Therefore, your definition doesn't work.
/r/MGTOW213/01/21 05:47 AM
11

u/th3empirial, you'll want to check out r/leftwingmaleadvocates. I think you'll find their subreddit right up your alley.
/r/MensRights13/01/21 02:23 AM
1

I don't see any inherent disagreement. Not an inherent disagreement; just a lack of inherent entailment. Nothing in your definition actually entails bachelorhood. It's philosophically congenial to it, sure, but it does not entail or even materially imply it.
/r/MGTOW213/01/21 02:16 AM
1

Ahh, so you suspect a lot of it is due to manufactured FUD?
/r/MGTOW212/01/21 10:39 PM
1

I can't. Oh, well--no big deal. I don't agree with that, personally. A woman always wants more than just sex if she can get it. So what? What she wants is one thing, while what the man wants is another thing. So long as they both reach a mutually accepted compromise whereby there is sex but no cohabitation and no marriage, he can be MGTOW even though they're banging like coked up rhesus monkeys. If the movement disagrees with that, fine, but that just makes me monk rather than MGTOW monk. I thin…
/r/MGTOW212/01/21 10:37 PM
7

But you basically got it right when you said: I know the 3 basics (no cohabitation, no marriage, no children). That's about it. Beyond that, there are plenty of variations. There is no rigid set of rules. You can be MGTOW in a lot of different ways. That's why it's called going your own way. I've never understood why some other guys find this so hard to understand. I mean, it's really straightforward, isn't it?
/r/MGTOW212/01/21 10:16 PM
1

Read the subreddit description. Huh--I guess I can't (yet). The rules are all flush right on my screen, but nowhere do I see a link to a subreddit description. Honestly, I didn't even know we had one. Could you link it? In any case, MGTOW itself expressly does not preclude sexual relationships with women: this has been covered many, many--exhaustingly many--times. I mean a man can be separated but not legally divorced and going his own way. Maybe a guy married to help a friend get citizenship, b…
/r/MGTOW212/01/21 10:11 PM
1

MGTOW as defined in the sub is men walking away from romantic relationships with women. No, it isn't. MGTOW ≠ monk. There are guys on here who have relationships with women, but no marriage, no cohabitation, and thereby no common law marriage. Can we define MGTOW literally Men Go Their Own Way, which directly translates as male independence and self-sufficiency? I rather like that idea, but note that such a change would allow for "married MGTOWs" under the right conditions. Marriage-avoidance wo…
/r/MGTOW212/01/21 03:17 PM
1

This I already know. My point was more that people's collective internet activity--especially social media use--has driven and been driven by a growing anger, acrimony, and mutual impatience. Kind of like road rage, but much, much worse.
/r/MGTOW212/01/21 02:46 PM
4

Anger and porn seem the only things the internet has to offer anymore. Oh--and you can buy shit offa Amazon.
/r/MGTOW211/01/21 11:33 PM
3

I've always found walking away and not turning back to be an especially effective solution.
/r/MGTOW211/01/21 03:03 PM
55

Why are boys academically underperforming? Gee, yeah--it's a real mystery. ^<sup>/s</sup>
/r/MensRights09/01/21 08:12 PM
3

Try arr/mensrights; they'll have it.
/r/MGTOW209/01/21 03:04 PM
3

??? I wasn't.
/r/MensRights08/01/21 04:29 PM
1

"Impossible:" that's such a strong word. Single-scrubbed: http://www.freezepage.com/1610122826OXJTYQRCPH Double-scrubbed: https://archive.fo/xXhKh
/r/MensRights08/01/21 04:27 PM
2

Good. Then we can take it to the Supreme Court and challenge the textual basis for the entire current understanding of Title IX. They will lose this fight and lose it dramatically. Even RBG before she died vocally came out in support of the presumption of innocence.
/r/MensRights08/01/21 03:56 PM
44

https://archive.is/qSD34 Do you know what's especially notable about the article? This was ten years ago. We knew boys' performance problems in schools were largely the fault of biased female teachers at least ten years ago (much longer ago for some of us), yet in all that time what has changed? What shame, cultural responsibility, or even just tiny fragments of conscience have feminists shown about this in all this time? Can one person here name one thing???
/r/MensRights07/01/21 10:55 PM
6

You know, from the title I came here to say, "No one could be that stupid." Clearly, I was wrong.
/r/MensRights05/01/21 01:49 AM
3

Nope--Darwin. You had it.
/r/MensRights05/01/21 01:43 AM
2

The variation between individuals on this greatly outpaces any variation between the sexes, so I'd say, "It depends on which man and which woman."
/r/MGTOW204/01/21 04:18 PM
1

Satire.
/r/MensRights04/01/21 03:47 PM
1

Yeah, answers even just to casual questions like "Why do men prefer an hour glass figure?" and "Why do women prefer tall men with wedge-shaped upper bodies?" would be great. It'd need a snappy title, that book, though. You know, something about speciation and how it actually works. A snappy title...a snappy title..... Nope, I thought I had an idea, but it's gone.
/r/MensRights04/01/21 03:42 PM
2

Why do MRAs and Feminists Fight on the internet so much? People fight on the internet. Lately it's about all we seem to do on the internet when we aren't buying hand sanitizers from Amazon.
/r/MensRights04/01/21 03:36 PM
1

It is indeed a profound mystery. Someone should write a book.
/r/MensRights04/01/21 03:31 PM
2

^ There it is.
/r/MGTOW204/01/21 01:16 AM
2

No, it won't.
/r/MGTOW204/01/21 12:57 AM
3

Looks to me like you had a conversation with an incel. I'm sorry you had to endure that.
/r/MGTOW203/01/21 05:11 PM
1

Who told you MGTOW was a political movement?
/r/MGTOW203/01/21 05:09 PM
2

'Round here a janitor's work is never done. Thanks for keeping the place tidy.
/r/MGTOW203/01/21 04:03 AM
10

Oh, dude--I'm not criticizing your post: all you write is on the money. I just find it funny that such a post is on MGTOW2, where we're supposed to be well past the hang-ups you discuss (but as you note, some aren't).
/r/MGTOW203/01/21 03:53 AM
3

Learning how to fight is one of the best things a man can do.
/r/MGTOW203/01/21 01:47 AM
26

Choir, I believe we have a new preacher in town.
/r/MGTOW203/01/21 01:46 AM
3

That place has been dead for years and I really doubt it'll ever come back. You'll do far better to look into places like Happy Bachelor and/or goingyourownway.com.
/r/MGTOW202/01/21 11:01 PM
1

All systems get gamed: this is the thing ideologues hate to admit.
/r/MensRights02/01/21 04:40 PM
14

Already been done (way back when the Gillette ad first aired): L'Oreal: Because You're Not Worth It...Yet." Youtube deleted the account that posted the parody, so I can't link to it anymore. Sorry. EDIT: Hah! Found it!: https://www.altcensored.com/watch?v=MAlI-RXLk1E
/r/MensRights01/01/21 05:23 PM
3

My only objection is to calling this "new." 2014 certainly isn't old, but neither would I call it new.
/r/MensRights01/01/21 05:16 PM
7

Cut the crap out of my diet, sticking to low carbs, proteins, and greens. Admirable and yet tricky. I speak from experience on this one: if you're going to get serious about building a healthy diet, you have to read the labels on absolutely everything. Probably the biggest and worst bugbear in the entire American diet is sugar (from your spelling and writing style I inferred you're American). Second place goes to sodium. If you really want to get serious about this, you'll have no choice but to …
/r/MGTOW231/12/20 05:25 AM
1

Wish I could upvote this.
/r/MensRights31/12/20 05:14 AM
35

Could just be an unintentional result of the way the search algorithms work. Most coders that I know spend as much time playing games as they do working...
/r/MensRights31/12/20 05:12 AM
3

Good idea. That mega-thread served a vital purpose two years ago, but today it just seems pointless.
/r/MGTOW231/12/20 02:08 AM
2

Regrettably, yes, I did. The guy who made the video is as daft as he is ignorant. Farrell unequivocally is not a "male feminist;" he is a men's rights activist who used to be a feminist before he realized how hostile toward men, boys, and masculinity feminism truly is, at which point he stopped being one. He also is the one who, more than anyone else, convinced Cassie Jaye to stop being a feminist. Warren Farrell was one of the first really major academic critics of feminism (one could argue tha…
/r/MensRights31/12/20 01:31 AM
1

This is so breath-takingly retarded. Warren Farrell is one of the original founders of the men's rights movement and probably the single greatest advocate for the rights, dignity, and autonomy of men and boys in all North America. 'Nother day on the interwebzes, I guess...
/r/MensRights30/12/20 04:41 PM
1

I unplug all the time and firmly stand by it, but I don't regard it as burying my head in the sand. When you sit yourself down and think about it carefully, the online world is mostly a mirage.
/r/MGTOW229/12/20 11:56 PM
2

Remove from your immediate environment everything you ever use to procrastinate (especially digital devices, including phones). Once they're no longer around as an easy avenue of escape, you're less likely to run.
/r/MGTOW229/12/20 11:54 PM
7

Imma put an internet condom around that one: https://archive.fo/tft2s
/r/MensRights29/12/20 05:23 PM
1

This is weird: when I try to click that link, my browser says (in effect) "Ain't nothin' there, Bub." Archiving it works, though: https://archive.fo/OrcNM
/r/MensRights29/12/20 05:14 PM
1

Excellent additions. Don't forget Cassie Jaye.
/r/MensRights29/12/20 05:08 PM
8

I got called a traitor to my gender... Un-ironic "race traitor" rhetoric. These people have no capacity to see themselves in the mirror.
/r/MensRights29/12/20 05:07 PM
2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvONpTA1qK8
/r/MGTOW228/12/20 10:57 PM
7

Looks like.
/r/MGTOW228/12/20 10:49 PM
1

https://archive.fo/PTTlM
/r/MensRights28/12/20 10:46 PM
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https://archive.fo/QTGMa https://imrussia.org/images/stories/01_RUSSIA_2012/Back_in_the_USSR/plakat1.jpg
/r/MensRights28/12/20 05:19 PM
3

Aren't academic studies supposed to prepare you for a career? No. At least within the liberal arts, their purpose is to liberate the soul, not to prepare the young twenty-something for a lifetime of unwanted labor. Universities are not trade schools, or at least they're not supposed to be.
/r/MensRights27/12/20 05:26 AM
3

The trick is not to make yourself stop caring: the trick is to find something else you care about far more. Do that and everything will fall into place.
/r/MGTOW227/12/20 05:21 AM
104

Not caring what other people think has a lottta perks to it.
/r/MGTOW227/12/20 02:56 AM
3

That really did take guts. That woman is someone I would love to argue with and learn from.
/r/MensRights25/12/20 08:58 PM
1

If my mind controlled reality, the laws of physics would be in some serious, serious trouble, so I'll have to go with the latter.
/r/MGTOW225/12/20 01:44 PM
3

You might need to unplug for a while, u/Stray_48. From what I've seen, there's a lot of mutual hostility, partisanship, tribalism, and hatred stemming not from feminism, leftism, or conservatism, but just from people spending too much time on social media. It's like some strange kind of road rage on steroids.
/r/MensRights25/12/20 01:41 PM
1

Oh, so you see this as a better situation, then, insofar as the institution can't hide behind "We're just following orders" cop-outs? And you think it makes it easier for injured college men to sue Duke and others? Is that it?
/r/MensRights25/12/20 04:11 AM
1

Ohhhh. Thank you indeed: I was taught a falsehood. Well, then--all the worse, innit?
/r/MensRights25/12/20 03:59 AM
1

Being a private school, it's always been trivial to remove due-process protections from accused students because accused students have no due-process protections when it comes to private organizations. Do they take government money through loans? I don't say it's right to do this and I don't say it's wrong to do this, but I do say they do this: the federal government oversees and regulates all sorts of private-business behavior through such businesses' access to federal money. The federal govern…
/r/MensRights24/12/20 03:35 PM
7

The more women try to control men, the more men will become MGTOW. Do you expect women to stop trying to control men?
/r/MGTOW223/12/20 10:57 PM
6

My archive link doesn't...
/r/MensRights23/12/20 10:52 PM
1

https://archive.fo/Yp5sE "Men happy: women worst affected." If there's an "unintentional Onion" subreddit, this belongs there.
/r/MensRights23/12/20 01:09 PM
1

https://archive.fo/aHDJf
/r/MensRights23/12/20 01:07 PM
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https://archive.fo/Y5DtC
/r/MensRights23/12/20 02:33 AM
1

others have said that it's sort of more underground now It is. There are other web forums you can find that are much more active. Try Happy Bachelor and/or goingyourownway.com.
/r/MGTOW222/12/20 09:18 PM
1

That place went belly up years ago.
/r/MGTOW222/12/20 09:06 PM
4

https://archive.fo/c0zwC
/r/MensRights21/12/20 09:13 PM
1

https://archive.fo/JcA4u
/r/MensRights21/12/20 09:12 PM
1

"Some"???
/r/MensRights21/12/20 09:03 PM
1

That's fine, but I don't see any justification for accusing this institution of endorsing the content of one member's blog unless and until the institution qua institution comes out somewhere and says it does. Right?
/r/MensRights21/12/20 09:02 PM
1

Yeah, they own a lot of very popular companies. Tide, for instance. Old Spice, as you noted. All kinds of stuff, really.
/r/MensRights21/12/20 08:58 PM
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Not only that--what he's posting about is exactly what we're about on here. This is u/lordlivingston's journey of self-improvement right here. Congratulations on quitting video games, livingston: for all the games I played back in the day and all the enjoyment I got from them, I never stopped and thought to myself "These are clearly making me a better person."
/r/MGTOW221/12/20 03:15 AM
3

Right on. I do the same and it does get tricky because P&G owns a lot of stuff.
/r/MensRights21/12/20 12:56 AM
2

I don't think it's fair to call this the position of Psychology Today: it's a blog that one person has on Psychology Today. Conflating them strikes me as analogous to conflating opinion pieces with news pieces in a newspaper or on TV news.
/r/MensRights21/12/20 12:55 AM
1

Looks like Patty Thomas, I think: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/267260559109834195/
/r/MGTOW220/12/20 04:03 PM
1

https://archive.fo/zCCaA
/r/MensRights19/12/20 03:18 AM
6

And can men accuse women of this equally easily? Because I foresee lots of way to exploit this in the business world when scratching to get ahead.
/r/MGTOW219/12/20 12:42 AM
1

Focus much more attention on things that you do like and consciously work toward maximizing your enjoyment/appreciation of them. An indirect result of that will be an increase in your happiness and a decrease in anger. Fighting it directly won't work: it's a lot like forcibly trying to stop thinking of elephants, you know? Similarly, telling yourself to stop feeling anger is a great way to become more angry. Directing more and more of your attention and energy to things you find genuinely reward…
/r/MGTOW219/12/20 12:40 AM
2

Another notion I had (and this could really mess with social media censorship across the board) was this: for every term they try to censor, write some minor piece of open-source software, post it on Github, and name it an acronym spelling out whichever word they're trying to censor. Then you can appeal their censorship efforts by pointing to the software, they'll likely have to remove the blocks on it, and anyone who wants to use the "offensive" term just has to put it in ALLCAPS in order to ci…
/r/MGTOW218/12/20 09:49 PM
15

Sounds [...] more like a guideline on how to train your dog That's exactly what it is.
/r/MensRights18/12/20 09:37 PM
1

Hey! Well, then in your specific case I'd say I and many others here would be happy to work with you on areas of common concern. I will, anyway.
/r/MensRights18/12/20 07:02 PM
1

Followers can be found on the little text under your username That does list my karma, but no followers. It says "User Not Found." Incognito is a browser thing Oh, I get you now. Yeah, I already use anonymous browsing throughout and even go so far as to spoof my OS, browser, and all sorts of other stuff. (Morally legitimate fingerprinting is done by the police and no one else, you know?) Here's what one guy months ago suggested might be going on: If someone did take the time and energy for some …
/r/MensRights18/12/20 05:45 PM
8

When I finished my dissertation the only thing I did to commemorate it was go to sleep early that day. I figured I'd earned it.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen18/12/20 01:52 AM
0

Both.
/r/MGTOW218/12/20 01:50 AM
2

They aren't banned.
/r/MensRights18/12/20 01:46 AM
1

I've found daily meditation very helpful for this. No joke.
/r/MGTOW217/12/20 11:53 PM
1

Maybe check your followers Didn't know I had any. Is that in the Reddit submenu or somewhere else? check cookies as well I auto-clear all cookies after every session (paranoid, wot wot). Try upvoting something with incognito mode on What is incognito mode and where do I access it? In I do already have the option unclicked; I assume incognito is much more than that, though, right?
/r/MensRights17/12/20 04:05 PM
2

Although I am in Africa, I acknowledge that I am better position that other men around me, without the internet my thinking would be very limited. I don't see the point of paying an internet bill (which is overpriced in Africa) so you can search content that upsets you. You are so right.
/r/MGTOW217/12/20 03:43 PM
1

Thoughts, fellow gentlemen? I didn't see any.
/r/MGTOW216/12/20 11:19 PM
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That first one, I'd say, is what half of planet Earth is having so much trouble doing.
/r/MGTOW216/12/20 11:14 PM
1

Reads like Gecko45 all over again. Points for creativity, I guess.
/r/MGTOW216/12/20 11:11 PM
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If some guy wants to spend his nights fucking a glorified vacuum cleaner, that's his business. If I find it and him pathetic and sad, that's my business.
/r/MGTOW216/12/20 11:07 PM
2

Meh. In the scope of life's many present struggles this isn't something I'm gonna lose sleep over.
/r/MensRights16/12/20 06:08 PM
2

"İ used a bot to destroy the bot" Wish I could; no idea how to do it, though.
/r/MensRights16/12/20 06:08 PM
1

No clue. All I know is (even though I have my votes set to ) it tracks my every vote, up or down, and counters it automatically within a second.
/r/MensRights16/12/20 06:07 PM
10

Yeah, deep ones, it seems.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/12/20 02:13 AM
2

Are they ‘How To...’ seminars? Came to say it. I'd upvote you, u/welkan996, but some angry little heart somewhere on Reddit wrote a bot to auto-counter all of my votes. 😦
/r/MensRights16/12/20 01:53 AM
1

To my best knowledge (which is not extensive) the archived links will last for as long as the archiving site lives. They're not just creating another link to the article: they're making a full digital back-up of the page.
/r/MensRights15/12/20 04:52 PM
4

"Redundant" or "malignant?" If the latter, I'd say in the 80s.
/r/MensRights15/12/20 12:35 AM
1

What I've found in recent years is that a lot of AU media gets blocked from view here in the US if one uses (as I do) heavy browser security measures. Archiving prevents this.
/r/MensRights14/12/20 08:50 PM
1

https://archive.fo/0M01t "Accidentally." Sure. That's what it is.
/r/MensRights14/12/20 08:40 PM
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https://archive.fo/cDiUs
/r/MensRights14/12/20 01:29 PM
1

Find me the feminists who are (1) willing to work with MRAs and (2) willing to acknowledge female moral responsibility in approximately half of what's wrong with this world, and we can start merging these subreddits. Seriously--go find them and bring them here. I guarantee you we'll be happy to talk with them.
/r/MensRights13/12/20 04:29 PM
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The only real difference I see between Koss and other academic feminists today is that she's willing to say what she really believes. Her positions are not even unusual anymore.
/r/MensRights13/12/20 04:24 AM
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An excellent set of links, u/mhandanna; thank you for them.
/r/MensRights12/12/20 10:15 PM
1

Sexist, capitalist pig, thank you. ;) Services come at a cost.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/12/20 06:25 PM
1

Normally you pay your mechanic, don't you?
/r/PussyPassDenied12/12/20 05:57 PM
1

No, my point was not a contentious one--I guess I just didn't state it well. Sorry about that. I don't think it's ultimately the case that media consumers no longer care about a decent script or story (I mean, maybe--I certainly haven't done any sociological studies on this, so I cannot speak with authority). My sense of things, rather, is that we've grown accustomed to tolerating poorly-written stuff padded out with lots of special effects and (these days) virtue signalling, but the public does…
/r/MensRights12/12/20 05:49 PM
1

Mm...not "no more good writers;" "no more good script writers."
/r/MensRights12/12/20 04:12 AM
1

they know nobody cares about good writing anymore I'm not sure I agree. People still care about good writing; there just don't seem to be any script writers out there capable of doing it.
/r/MensRights12/12/20 03:13 AM
4

So the real lesson from this is that antidepressant futures look good. Time to shift some investments...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen12/12/20 03:10 AM
1

The BBC reported on it something like seven years ago. Google it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/12/20 03:08 AM
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You Won’t Believe What These Graphs Reveal About Women! Doubtless. 'Course, I also won't care.
/r/MGTOW212/12/20 03:06 AM
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Oh, wow. That's one of the last places I'd expect either feminism or MGTOW to gain much foothold. Sorry to hear it, man--it sounds like marriage is becoming a raw deal for men over there.
/r/MGTOW212/12/20 03:03 AM
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Mate, well done. I'm much older than you and I'm still stuck dogging away at it.
/r/MGTOW212/12/20 01:54 AM
15

Which country?
/r/MGTOW212/12/20 01:52 AM
2

I think this post belongs on r/mensrights, not here.
/r/MGTOW211/12/20 05:47 PM
8

Dude, thank you for posting that. Seriously. I'd upvote you, but some angry redditor wrote a bot to counter all my voting, so waddayagonnado?
/r/MGTOW211/12/20 04:35 PM
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Btw this website wokefather.com has a lot of interesting content that is right up this sub's alley. Definitely worth checking out. Yes, they do. From another post on here linking to them I've been reading through that site for several weeks now and much of it is very good. They especialy avoid much of the jargon-slinging and lazy categorizations that plague internet "magazines."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/12/20 04:33 PM
1

I don't know why you would have to make this point. My comments were "in this thread" and "people." No accusation was leveled at you specifically, though you seem to react like it. You said "we." That has specific conversational implicature. My comment on the hypocrisy is that terms like SJW are in the same camp, serving the same function as the ones the op is complaining about. And here, anyway, I agree. I hope such a statement is obvious and not controversial. I think it is.
/r/MensRights11/12/20 03:56 AM
1

Exactly right: come up with a sufficiently catchy phrase for it and people will just assume it's real.
/r/MensRights11/12/20 03:09 AM
1

Your point in hypocrisy is an interesting one. I mean, here we are in a thread talking about people using negative buzz words while using terms like SJW. Everyone sees that... right? Right? I didn't use it; I only quoted someone else who did. I do not use such jargon. Not all in-group verbal shorthand is jargon. Jargon, especially the sort of moral-cum-"political" jargon on which the OP focuses, is a special type of such shorthand that trades on efficiency, yes, but also especially vagueness and…
/r/MensRights11/12/20 01:58 AM
2

Doesn't matter. He is liked by people they don't, so he had to go. That's Youtube now.
/r/MGTOW211/12/20 12:37 AM
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Why do feminists and SJW use buzzwords so much? Two principal reasons: Jargon is an excuse to avoid actual thinking. So long as they can hide behind their buzzwords they won't have to clarify (even to themselves) what it is they really mean to say and therefore easily will avoid noticing that quite often what they are trying to say is strictly vacuous (that's not a pejorative: I really mean much of what they utter or write fails actually to assert anything when carefully analyzed). Jargon is a t…
/r/MensRights10/12/20 08:57 PM
3

Don't swipe right unless you're willing to be a dad to a kid that isn't yours. Consider it a "2 for 1" sale. Sure, fire sales usually go that way.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/12/20 04:11 PM
1

https://archive.fo/hsKxm My "Not My Problem" box is positively overflowing these days. Oh, well...
/r/MensRights10/12/20 04:04 PM
5

Are there any men left that don't lie or cheat? Yes, but they have options. Therefore, none for you, no.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/12/20 03:24 AM
1

Vipassana.
/r/MGTOW210/12/20 03:14 AM
2

https://archive.fo/2pvcu
/r/MensRights10/12/20 03:03 AM
1

Meh. How do all fads begin?
/r/MensRights08/12/20 03:41 PM
1

And are women going to take on all the physically dangerous jobs and go do all the fighting and dying in exchange for that?
/r/MensRights08/12/20 03:37 PM
2

If you think that the term "toxic masculinity" is misused, how so? People who will not use honest language to state their ideas are not being honest. So it isn't so much that the term is being misused as that the term itself, since its very inception, already is a misuse. For instance, what exactly do they mean by "toxic?" When I've quizzed my own more politically ardent students on this, all they ever successfully come up with is "bad." So then when I go on to ask them why they didn't just say …
/r/MensRights08/12/20 03:30 PM
5

Nonsense! For instance, I've only seen this one about thirty times now in the past two years. Okay, maybe forty. Fifty, tops.
/r/PussyPassDenied08/12/20 03:31 AM
3

Very, very bored people.
/r/MensRights08/12/20 03:27 AM
2

Yeah, I'd say "Methanie" fits perfectly. Hope the police did come and lock her and her friends up.
/r/PussyPassDenied08/12/20 03:23 AM
2

Right, but my point is that the concepts you attach to intentionally nebulous terms like "toxic" are not the concepts the vast majority of leftist activists actually attach to it. As a rule, academic and political jargon function as weasel words where ideologues get to quietly and subtly change the meanings of the terms midstream in order to suit their goals/needs. When people stop using the jargon, that's when we find out what they really mean and what they are really trying to do. Plain speech…
/r/MensRights07/12/20 10:21 PM
4

We need to get better at teaching these things. No, we need to stop teaching these things. The jargon of "toxicity," like the jargon of "empowerment," has only ever been a liar's jargon.
/r/MensRights07/12/20 09:04 PM
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https://archive.fo/d1D5p The administration is circling its wagons over this, yes, but I'm convinced: that headmaster and those protecting him are as good as fired. I'd bet money on it.
/r/MensRights07/12/20 08:42 PM
2

"What happened to men taking women on dates?" Women like you did. Too late to cry about it now.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/12/20 08:10 PM
2

The signal-to-noise ratio always decays as a subreddit gains popularity; that's just Reddit.
/r/MGTOW207/12/20 08:06 PM
1

Why are feminists so much focused on blaming the society and everyone rather than fixing themselves? Which would you enjoy more?
/r/MensRights07/12/20 07:48 PM
3

You're on a good path right now, u/MajIssuesCaptObvious. If you want to lose weight, try reducing carbs in your diet, too (don't try to eliminate them, obviously--just cut down). Another thing I found especially helpful was moving away from refined sugars and starches in particular; that killed off my residual love handles in ~3 months.
/r/MGTOW207/12/20 04:20 AM
1

The Punctuation Fairy is never going to put a silver dollar under your pillow with a post like that. Damn...
/r/MGTOW207/12/20 04:15 AM
1

I try to structure a bit. correct me if i am wrong about your position. A main point where we don't yet agree is, where do our values come from. You: from our social circle Me: Normally social circle, but it is not necessary Ahhh--it was I, not you, who misunderstood something, then. I mistook your position for the more extreme one that says: "Only from within, and external factors be damned." No, I actually agree with you: social circles play a big role, but certainly not the only role; other e…
/r/MGTOW207/12/20 04:07 AM
2

I think it already has died. I also think the rise of the internet and social media has much more to do with this than people suppose. That's my "hot take," anyway.
/r/MensRights06/12/20 06:22 PM
1

You should not do something bc others expect it from you. Of course you should (at times). This is how family, work, and all friendships operate, after all. We put expectations on each other and ourselves all the time. And we should. I think you can still differentiate it. i.e. i offer my friend a bier not because he expects it but bc i want to do give something good for my friend. Or i help my brother move in a new flat not because he expects it, but bc i put importance in supporting my family …
/r/MGTOW206/12/20 04:44 PM
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Hm. My memory is plenty fallible, but wasn't there a big Australian feminist protest against this and they revoked the award? No? EDIT: Nope! I just checked the wiki on her and in fact she retained the award despite massive upset activist pressure. It feels so strange to watch sanity win over madness in this age...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates06/12/20 04:00 PM
3

I had two big ones back in the day: Cynicism is predicated on the disappointment of high moral expectations that no cynic actually believes. The people who talk the most think the least.
/r/MGTOW206/12/20 03:53 PM
4

r/roastme ^ Go git 'em, tiger!
/r/MGTOW206/12/20 03:50 PM
1

You should not do something bc others expect it from you. Of course you should (at times). This is how family, work, and all friendships operate, after all. We put expectations on each other and ourselves all the time. And we should. You should not do something to have a feeling of superiority about other or to invoke envy in others. I agree. You should not do something to get praised or complimented by others. I disagree. Wanting the praise of good people is virtuous. Wanting the praise of bad …
/r/MGTOW206/12/20 04:07 AM
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https://archive.fo/fTjw9 Sounds exactly like Canada to me.
/r/MensRights06/12/20 03:59 AM
1

I think it is here quite established, that you shouldn’t take your motivation and validation from external sources. I don't think that's true. Where do we learn all ethics from? How do we come to develop (and gradually change) our priorities in life? How do we form our idea of what a decent human being is? External sources. This is a fundamental part of all human nature: we are social animals before we even manage to open our eyes in the morning. To squelch that aspect of oneself is to squelch o…
/r/MGTOW206/12/20 02:06 AM
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https://archive.fo/z8ifi I'm surprised by how quickly it's all unravelling on them.
/r/MensRights06/12/20 01:46 AM
1

Maybe kinda both.
/r/MensRights06/12/20 01:43 AM
8

This sub was created for a purpose, and that purpose will not be hijacked. Seriously. I'm glad you guys are doing this--it's needed. Also, I note you've now numbered the rules and spaced them more clearly in the sidebar; I think that'll help guys consult the rules more quickly and easily. The old format was a bit harder to read.
/r/MGTOW205/12/20 08:38 PM
3

https://archive.fo/hwiPw One way or another the woman will always be the victim.
/r/MensRights05/12/20 04:13 PM
2

You pay the ticket and don't park there anymore. Sometimes you just have to roll with the punches, man.
/r/MGTOW204/12/20 04:27 PM
2

In the world of evidence there is literally nothing a conspiracy theorist will not explain away.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/12/20 04:23 PM
1

And here you are on reddit! That's true. And yes, I'm also working my way toward eventually getting rid of Reddit, too. It's the last one I have left.
/r/MensRights04/12/20 04:11 PM
2

There are a lot of people who sincerely don't want to be intellectually honest. The women you mention hold the top of the list.
/r/MensRights04/12/20 02:08 AM
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Flip it on them: just put a "(wo)" before the "men" and watch the freak-outs. Better yet, completely quit FB, TW, Inst, and all other social media and go be happy and productive instead. It worked for me.
/r/MensRights04/12/20 02:02 AM
1

The hatred that exists in the world makes me sad sometimes. Well, I certainly agree with that; it gets worse and worse every year.
/r/MensRights03/12/20 05:51 PM
3

https://archive.fo/V0fyR
/r/MensRights02/12/20 09:55 PM
10

I don't blame feminism for all my problems; not at all. I blame feminism for approximately half of the world's problems. Big difference, that.
/r/MensRights02/12/20 09:49 PM
5

And how would such consent be given before the conversation is initiated?
/r/MGTOW202/12/20 05:24 PM
3

Oh, no--I say nothing against people's immoral behavior meriting consequences; no, I fully affirm that.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/20 05:21 PM
1

I do not disagree with anything you've written, u/defo18; I think what you say is right. I just want to point out one distinction that too easily gets lost on Reddit and elsewhere (though I do not accuse you of this error, mind you): "S has a right to x" ≠ & <=x=> "x is right." I have a right to be selfish and petty; nonetheless, neither selfishness nor pettiness are right things to be. So in other words, while the resentment someone feels may well be understandable, nonetheless it will still be…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/12/20 05:16 PM
3

https://archive.fo/7TqBu Blin, I do not obey paywall. Never.
/r/MensRights02/12/20 04:04 PM
1

https://archive.fo/Me3i7
/r/MensRights02/12/20 03:56 PM
2

There ya go! Life tips we all need for the New Age of Aquarius. http://www.freezepage.com/1606924895RKLLUAYNUD (That site really fought the standard archiving techniques.)
/r/MensRights02/12/20 03:55 PM
4

Can someone explain to me how this is pussy pass denied? It isn't.
/r/PussyPassDenied02/12/20 03:40 PM
7

I'll start policing other men's misogyny the very day after feminists start policing each other's misandry. That's a promise.
/r/MensRights02/12/20 12:29 AM
9

No, no, no--the thought experiment is simple: re-couch everything you wrote into whites' "rational fear" of blacks and see how it reads back. These arguments you're using are a lot older than you and I are, and I'm pretty old...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/20 01:59 PM
2

I see. I don't think that will happen, honestly: men instinctively ground our self-esteem in something we do.
/r/MGTOW201/12/20 01:56 PM
3

Everything you say is true, Don. I'll just make one observation: the constant bitching, rage-posting, alienation, and self-cuddling victim complexes aren't features of what's wrong with MGTOW, in my opinion: they're features of what's wrong with the entire internet. These guys are just copying all the same worst behaviors they've had flooding their eyeballs everywhere they look. And it's my observation that people generally live down to the lowest common denominator.
/r/MGTOW201/12/20 01:52 PM
2

Reddit suffers no shortage of places to go and complain. One obscure little subreddit that doesn't do that won't cause any special "bitching droughts" across the platform.
/r/MGTOW201/12/20 01:46 PM
1

Now say all this exact same stuff for blacks, read it back to yourself, and see if you still think the reasoning is sound.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/12/20 01:42 PM
2

C. H. Sommers did it, but they excommunicated her for that. Ditto w/Cassie Jaye. Cults don't like heretics.
/r/MensRights01/12/20 01:29 PM
1

Hm. I think "Karen" has become an insufficient moniker for these.....people. Has "PsychoKaren" already been taken and used elsewhere in the digital vernacular? (It probably has, hasn't it?) If not, I propose it in honor of this woman and her extraordinary demeanor. No shred of PP or D anywhere in this video, though. Just nutters going batshit nutty.
/r/PussyPassDenied01/12/20 02:22 AM
9

There you go bringing nasty, fascistic, curmudgeonly data into questions that are supposed to be about feelings. Have you no heart, sir? Why, just think of what this does to her ego..... Well--this was fun.
/r/MGTOW201/12/20 02:16 AM
1

Highly inappropriate bot.
/r/MensRights01/12/20 02:09 AM
2

https://archive.fo/frIZD Good. I sincerely hope that headmaster gets sacked for it.
/r/MensRights30/11/20 11:07 PM
1

Tellin' it like it is, Don. Tellin' it like it is.
/r/MGTOW230/11/20 04:57 PM
2

Doesn't arr/theredpill already have a whole slew of threads devoted to this? I haven't been there in a long time, but back before their quarantine they regularly did scrupulous analyses of this stuff.
/r/MGTOW230/11/20 04:49 PM
2

You don't "stop caring". You change the focus of the things you care about. Exactly. I've been trying to explain this for years now, but it's one of those lessons that seem never to percolate into the wider cultural consciousness. It is not possible to stop caring: to live is to care. It is possible to start caring about x more than one cares about y. It's a simple solution and it really does work.
/r/MGTOW230/11/20 04:41 PM
2

It's the only way feminists allow. To do otherwise is a thought crime, comrade.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/11/20 08:16 PM
4

https://archive.fo/vxKYt
/r/MensRights29/11/20 08:11 PM
3

https://archive.fo/AmVA0
/r/MensRights29/11/20 08:08 PM
4

Might this have been a far-right or even alt-right youtuber? Alt-righters HATE the idea of men (esp. white men) deciding not to sire baskets and baskets of babies. Their entire plan for "winning the culture war" is to crank out more white, racist race realist racist children than the multiculturalists can cope with. As they see it, to refuse to participate in this is to piss on their resentful little dream.
/r/MGTOW229/11/20 03:00 PM
8

Markets don't just adapt to people; people also adapt to markets. Humans, like all other animals on this planet, will find a way to reproduce. There very well might be a cataclysmic crash first and the adaptations to it might look really weird, but one way or another there will be babies.
/r/MGTOW229/11/20 02:51 PM
1

Honestly, I've been watching them do this over and over again for four decades now; it no longer even moves my pulse.
/r/MensRights29/11/20 02:42 PM
1

That's it exactly.
/r/MensRights29/11/20 02:36 PM
5

Pretty thorough, mate. That about covers it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/11/20 09:41 PM
3

So the question I am asking here is: for you, besides women and marriage, what else do you see the MGTOW philosophy/mindset naturally extend to? What is society expecting from men to value that you -- as a MGTOW -- would like to go your own way from? I fully agree with u/Solo_and_Simple on the following: The most important lesson I've drawn from MGTOW is how indoctrinated men are to be self-sacrificing -- to give our lives and our energies for others. Not just for women and children, but for soc…
/r/MGTOW228/11/20 02:14 AM
10

Party girls never age well.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/11/20 12:07 AM
3

Stung on the mouth by murder hornets.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen28/11/20 12:06 AM
5

https://archive.fo/5od12 Can't do chores if you're dead.
/r/MensRights27/11/20 02:27 PM
7

An irony to impress even Emperor Palpatine.
/r/MensRights27/11/20 02:25 PM
1

https://archive.fo/FyX6k
/r/MensRights27/11/20 02:18 PM
4

https://archive.fo/BQBiV Tsk!--the poor dears. How will they get on? P.S.: That linked thread is a perfect shit-show on all sides; I do not recommend reading it.
/r/MensRights27/11/20 02:14 PM
1

https://archive.fo/UyTlK
/r/MensRights27/11/20 01:03 AM
2

Especially in Airplane.
/r/MGTOW225/11/20 01:03 AM
3

For those who insist on looking: https://archive.fo/LSNAH
/r/MGTOW225/11/20 01:02 AM
21

Men are the minority in journalism today: she needs to update her research.
/r/MensRights24/11/20 03:41 PM
2

^ ^ ^ ^ ^
/r/MGTOW224/11/20 01:15 AM
2

Yes, thank you. That was exactly my point. The term "feminist" is now applied so broadly (and inconsistently) that denying the existence of very different types of feminism is just silly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/11/20 01:19 PM
2

Use the card, yes, but no, never fail to pay off the full balance ASAP. Your credit scores reflect the software's measure of your ability to pay; the best way to increase that measurement is by always paying the full amount owed as soon as it appears on your card.
/r/MGTOW223/11/20 02:02 AM
2

Not all distinctions lack a difference. CH Sommers calls herself a feminist; so does Laura Bates. Treating these two as if they were remotely philosophically or morally similar, though, is perfect codswallop.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/11/20 01:54 AM
1

Wall hangings 'n' whiskey. Done.
/r/MGTOW223/11/20 01:53 AM
2

Where's the bit where they measure the impact on men and what most helps them to flourish in their careers? I mean, surely they have taken the time and effort to measure this, right? Right???
/r/MensRights21/11/20 03:56 PM
2

https://archive.fo/O99Y0 Her after-incident cries were "Help me." "Help me," not "help him." Now let us ask ourselves why that fact is so unsurprising.
/r/MensRights20/11/20 10:25 PM
5

Christina Hoff Sommers is a philosopher. Her work as a philosopher was what drew her to criticize academic feminism's "patriarchy theory" and to defend men's rights.
/r/MensRights20/11/20 10:24 PM
16

I don't take lessons in masculinity from people who haven't got any.
/r/MGTOW220/11/20 01:29 PM
1

https://archive.fo/50Mz5
/r/MensRights20/11/20 01:24 PM
1

Sounds to me like you want a political movement. Great!--go find one somewhere.
/r/MGTOW220/11/20 02:31 AM
1

https://archive.fo/iseOz
/r/MensRights19/11/20 08:28 PM
11

What was it before?
/r/MensRights19/11/20 01:15 AM
15

I can’t be the only guy here that [has] noticed this. You aren't. Ever since MGTOW1 got quarantined we've had a mad influx of incels, "red pill rage" boys (a photographic negative of "feminist rage"), and bored teen-aged edge lords. Were I a mod trying to clean up all this crap, I'd be doing lines of coke every damned morning while cursing the world.
/r/MGTOW218/11/20 12:59 PM
1

I support intellectual honesty. "Gender theorists" don't.
/r/MensRights18/11/20 12:47 PM
1

https://archive.fo/g7j8b
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/20 07:37 PM
1

I think a dude in Canada once said he was a woman to retire earlier. Yes, he did, and IIRC there was not one blessed thing they could do to stop him. It worked. Use their own rules and ideology against them and strangle them with it for every penny you can get. That's called "successful adaptation."
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/11/20 07:35 PM
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Figures. So long as the Senate stays in GOP hands and the Supreme Court isn't completely monkeyed with, I still say Biden and the angry little ideologues will fail on this one. I don't say this with any overwhelming confidence, though: we'll just have to see what happens. https://archive.fo/QPLdh
/r/MensRights17/11/20 02:28 PM
3

Does anyone look back on their life and see that maybe they never wanted to settle down and get married from a young age? Bingo. A chaotic home life is not necessary for this; being an introvert is the key, I think.
/r/MGTOW217/11/20 02:10 PM
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Wikipedia actually has "feminist edit" days on their entries. I wish I were making that up, but I'm not.
/r/MGTOW217/11/20 02:07 PM
5

Do women grie[ve] for dead partners? My mother grieved my father horribly and daily for five years. It wasn't about money, either--he left her millions in his multiple life insurance policies where they never had that kind of wealth when he was alive. Yes, it really happens and it happens all the time.
/r/MGTOW216/11/20 10:31 PM
5

I have a lot of pity and sympathy for them. They've been completely lied to their whole lives and are now on the cusp of discovering in the worst possible way just how tremendous of a lie the whole thing was. I mean, I don't honestly think any of these men say to themselves, "Hey, I'm gonna find me a total moral piece of shit to marry and then spend the rest of my life suffering under her wretched, contemptuous company." That just--that seems implausible.
/r/MGTOW216/11/20 10:28 PM
4

Indeed that is progress. I too am very surprised. Huh. Maybe Monday's looking a little up, eh?
/r/MensRights16/11/20 12:40 PM
2

"Educate yourself." https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/wiki/reading I recommend starting with Farrell and Hoff Sommers, both of whom cover this excellently. Helen Smith, on the other hand, is only a middle-of-the-road writer who did little serious research before writing her book. Between Farrell and Sommers I'd say Sommers did the most thorough, extensive research, which we should expect. She's a professional analytic philosopher, after all, and they excel at this stuff where the "gender theor…
/r/MensRights16/11/20 12:22 PM
1

I think a lot of people today will still consider the full cheek naughty. Except on beaches and in swimming areas (where conflicting and hypocritical attitudes are rampant), ass cheek cannot be shown in public without a lot of people being bothered by it.
/r/MensRights16/11/20 12:16 PM
1

u/Cougar427XR7: I feel the exit door may be the best answer, the drama of reporting it may be a storm from hell. Yeah, that's why I advocated amassing a whole bunch of supporting evidence quietly and inconspicuously. It's your call, obviously: it's your life and your career. And you basically have to record video before you stand a chance against her retaliation. Leave and when you do. THEN go to hr and explain why. You feel assaulted and didn't feel free to report it. So effective immediately, …
/r/MensRights16/11/20 12:13 PM
5

They're lying. They're perpetuating proven lies academic feminism has promulgated for more than forty years now. And they're doing it very, very predictably and tritely.
/r/MensRights16/11/20 03:11 AM
5

Exactly. "Power imbalance" and all that. Geese, ganders, and what-not.
/r/MensRights16/11/20 03:08 AM
2

Ugh. I'd definitely tread carefully, then. You should not have to put up with it and I do not counsel you to, but I do counsel you very quietly, inconspicuously, and patiently to collect all your needed evidence first before going to H.R. and demanding remedy. Women and resentment are oft conjoined and once brought together, rarely parted thereafter.
/r/MensRights16/11/20 03:08 AM
1

Cleaned link: https://archive.fo/4glJN
/r/MensRights16/11/20 01:51 AM
1

She's hitting on you and doing it wildly inappropriately. A man would be fired. Does she own the company or just work above you in it? Going to H.R. would be a mistake in the former case but maybe not in the latter.
/r/MensRights16/11/20 01:48 AM
1

Right, but my point is it isn't purely a matter of perception. We actually can see in the picture that the woman is naked. In the picture of the man, it's implied that he is, but we can't actually see any of the Monty Python-style "naughty bits" as they are discreetly hidden by the tub.
/r/MensRights16/11/20 01:39 AM
0

You choose to harm yourself. Which in itself is already wrong (respect for all includes respect for oneself). Hating someone makes one a worse person. It damages one's conscience, damages one's psyche, encourages a narcissistic and self-pitying moral outlook, damages one's capacity for social interaction, and lessens one's basic sense of human empathy. Sorry to sound like Yoda, but truly the only thing I have ever seen come from hatred is suffering. There's nothing good in it.
/r/MGTOW216/11/20 01:37 AM
1

Mm...I think it's more that the side of the naked butt is right there on display. Whether we see the crack or not, it is an instance of actual nudity. That's my guess, anyway.
/r/MensRights15/11/20 07:54 PM
-4

There is nothing wrong with hating a human Yes, there is. Due to personal history you might be unable to avoid it, but that doesn't make it just morally peachy.
/r/MGTOW215/11/20 07:52 PM
2

Cut yourself some slack, man. You're 20 years old; it would be very, very strange if women were not on your mind a lot. Trust me, though, when I say that changes as you age. Your 30s will be a lot better and your 40s will kick ass. From there on, the only rule is to keep on keeping on.
/r/MGTOW215/11/20 07:51 PM
4

I don't see much to complain about in this one. The girl was showing her naked butt from a side view; the man is not. The store owner did this to meet the demands of the local scolds while simultaneously poking them in the ribs a bit. Good for him. I mean, what's the big deal?
/r/MensRights15/11/20 04:28 PM
2

Ah, yes--the new American intellectual at work.
/r/MensRights14/11/20 09:25 PM
1

Economic theory, yes.
/r/MGTOW214/11/20 09:25 PM
2

You read Econ for fun? I do. I'm a nerd and this is the sort of thing nerds do.
/r/MGTOW214/11/20 03:43 PM
9

Sleep. No fucking alarm! Work on the car. Work in the yard. Finish reading this Econ book I got myself into. That's about it.
/r/MGTOW214/11/20 01:43 AM
8

If you don't control your habits, you don't control your personality. And that just means someone else gets to.
/r/MGTOW214/11/20 01:41 AM
5

Don't see where this is PPD; just looks like ordinary criminal shit.
/r/PussyPassDenied14/11/20 01:28 AM
3

^<sup>>ahem<</sup> "Non-feminist data are inherently sexist and therefore problematic; citing them only reinforces the patriarchy." ^ If you think I'm making this up or exaggerating, you haven't read much recent feminist theory.
/r/MensRights13/11/20 10:02 PM
4

This is what lawyers are for. You don't try to talk to these school administrators or plead with them: they are an ideologically mindless mob now and mobs don't reason. You fucking sue until they bleed. After that, when they come to you and now want to talk, bleed them even harder. Get a lawyer and make these people wish they'd never left their mothers' wombs.
/r/MensRights13/11/20 09:52 PM
4

https://archive.fo/y0knD
/r/MensRights13/11/20 09:48 PM
3

https://archive.fo/y0knD Wrap that digital Johnson before posting it.
/r/MGTOW213/11/20 09:44 PM
7

Talk to male friends who've been through family court; they'll tell you what you need to know. Also, the fact you're making money and good-looking has everything to do with her demeanor toward you.
/r/MGTOW213/11/20 01:04 PM
3

Statistical predictions derived from social behaviors observed during the COVID pandemic are untrustworthy. I don't think there's any big cultural shift toward bachelorhood: I think it's just temporary social isolation and alienation while all planet Earth is stuck on Zoom and TikTok. Everything is so uprecedented and unpredictable right now that I literally do not trust any prognosticators (not even my own internal one).
/r/MGTOW212/11/20 05:42 PM
1

Divorce is 50% and overwhelmingly female-initiated; they'll change their minds soon enough.
/r/MensRights12/11/20 03:18 PM
1

Yes. That's the worry, but I'm uncertain if they'll succeed: u/shellbross: He can use an executive order, but it would be unconstitutional. That's what makes me uncertain. The Supreme Court is pretty solidly conservative now, so I've a hunch legal challenges to such an order would succeed. I mean, even Ginsburg herself said the kangaroo courts on college campuses today violate due process. I'm confident Biden et al will try, but failure or success of the effort?? I really don't know--flip a coin…
/r/MensRights12/11/20 03:06 PM
1

Oh, I think I agree with all of that, but MGTOW2 is a fundamentally different subreddit from arr/MGTOW. This sub specifically has (in effect) a "No bitching about anything" policy. That's all my point was. And you're certainly right that there've been lots of off-topic posts around here lately, especially since arr/MGTOW got quarantined. The mods do all they can to tamp that stuff down, but it's like trying to hold back a deluge with some sandbags and a shovel.
/r/MGTOW211/11/20 11:27 PM
2

This post really belongs more on arr/mensrights than here. MGTOW2 isn't quite the "political advocacy for change" kind of place.
/r/MGTOW211/11/20 12:40 AM
45

Guys suck!!! 😡🤬 We do; we really do. She definitely should give up on us altogether and go be a lesbian in Portland or someplace. Like, right away.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/11/20 10:36 PM
1

Epictetus understood human nature very well.
/r/MGTOW210/11/20 10:20 PM
1

thought? I don't see any in there, no.
/r/MGTOW209/11/20 11:44 PM
1

Yeah, par for their new course in recent decades, isn't it?
/r/MensRights06/11/20 02:02 PM
2

Is indifference an emotion?
/r/MGTOW205/11/20 03:18 PM
2

https://archive.fo/0DkEP
/r/MensRights05/11/20 03:09 PM
2

^ ^ That is doing it like the Dude himself. May you long abide, Dude. May you long abide.
/r/MGTOW205/11/20 03:00 AM
8

^ ^ This is a hard truth for most guys to learn. There are plenty around here who'll tell themselves this stuff, but reaching the point where you really do see it takes time, patience, and thought, and those are unpopular in the Internet Age. Here's one that really brought it home to me years ago: after a day of pretty hard academic study I was staring out at the snow falling one cold night in the far north. The stillness and silence of it was to me the most beautiful thing I'd seen all year. In…
/r/MGTOW205/11/20 02:56 AM
6

Good news actually...we are seeing men adapt and going their own way. I find this entirely rational and defensible, but I do not regard it as good news at all. It's a sad implicit commentary on the current state of things; there's nothing cheerful in it.
/r/MensRights05/11/20 02:37 AM
3

There are certain lessons the ardent Left will not learn because they are not willing to. I think this is one of them.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/11/20 11:06 PM
1

https://archive.fo/TjpmM So along with higher levels of neurotic behavior and agreeability (rule-following, in other words), women also have higher levels of hypochondria and general fastidiousness? Makes sense to me...
/r/MensRights04/11/20 11:02 PM
1

Maybe. Another equally plausible explanation, I think, is that he didn't want to answer because he didn't want to alienate and lose the votes of his far-left base until after the election. From years ago he is on record (while in the Senate, IIRC) rather vigorously opposing court packing. Anyway, for good or ill, we'll find out soon.
/r/MensRights03/11/20 02:19 PM
13

They are nothing if not predictable.
/r/MensRights02/11/20 01:59 PM
1

In the meantime, should the Dear Colleague standards return, [...] Definitely. Honestly, though, I almost want them to bring that standard back in the DoE just so they can get sued for it under this new Supreme Court and have it decisively shot down. A lot of schools right now are quietly keeping and imposing such biased, sexist standards while publicly pretending not to.
/r/MensRights02/11/20 01:57 PM
2

I'm still not confident he will. I worry about that, certainly, but I still (mostly) doubt he'd do it.
/r/MensRights02/11/20 03:13 AM
9

Not with this Supreme Court, he won't.
/r/MensRights02/11/20 01:07 AM
3

Any other books I can traumatize myself with? Robin Morgan Catharine MacKinnon Andrea Dworkin Robin DiAngelo Adrienne Rich Audre Lorde ... The list really doesn't end.
/r/MensRights01/11/20 03:04 PM
1

Yeah, really. That is not something we need more of.
/r/MensRights01/11/20 03:01 PM
18

Argument against: Men have a choice whether to have sex or not. So do women. Q.E.D. Nearly every argument against LPS is some form of pro-life language that feminists lose their shit over when used against them. Exactly.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates01/11/20 12:06 AM
1

In other words, they'll lie. Wouldn't be the first time.
/r/MensRights01/11/20 12:02 AM
24

Exactly. Test the platform to see if it bans such speech, and if it consistently doesn't, there's no hypocrisy to complain about. As others have noted, Tik Tok doesn't seem to moderate much. Heyyy, s'pose that's why the kids like it so much?.....
/r/MensRights31/10/20 11:58 PM
3

Your pleasures reflect your priorities.
/r/MGTOW231/10/20 07:40 PM
9

Is there any way to protect myself in marriage? Today? In America? No.
/r/MGTOW231/10/20 07:39 PM
–

I've said it before: witch hunts only really end when the hunters become hunted.
/r/MensRights30/10/20 12:25 PM
13

Christina Hoff Sommers covers the answer to this extensively in her book, The War Against Boys. If you think what is happening to boys is accidental, think again.
/r/MensRights30/10/20 12:21 PM
3

Thank you. It always amazes me the extent to which random members get it into their heads that a subreddit's rules are somehow theirs to modify. I wish my bank worked like that...
/r/MGTOW229/10/20 08:38 PM
2

It's your neck in the noose, not mine, so I won't try to stop you. From start to finish this whole thing sounds like a fantastically bad idea, though. Me, I'd be in Guatemala by now...
/r/MGTOW229/10/20 08:36 PM
2

Pussywhipped.
/r/MGTOW229/10/20 08:30 PM
3

Why don’t men go for educated women with similar income? Because biology expressly tells us not to.
/r/MensRights29/10/20 07:27 PM
5

I am scandalized--scandalized!--that a group of feminists would be so utterly predictable.
/r/MensRights28/10/20 01:12 PM
2

Preach it, brother. Preach it.
/r/MGTOW227/10/20 12:09 PM
3

Do you believe things have gotten substantially worse in the meantime? Yes.
/r/MensRights27/10/20 01:33 AM
3

He means it would never be allowed on arrh/feminism today because it dares open a smidgen of doubt about the preferred narrative feminist theory. And he's right--it wouldn't.
/r/MensRights27/10/20 01:30 AM
2

It gets much, much better as you get older. It's only when you're young that it's a struggle. I say this as a man who is in his fifties.
/r/MGTOW226/10/20 02:32 AM
1

Happy people always annoy the unhappy.
/r/MGTOW226/10/20 02:30 AM
3

401k. Make it a good one.
/r/MGTOW226/10/20 02:29 AM
1

Please tell me I'm not alone in this... Oh, no, you are not alone, OP. Not even a little bit.
/r/MGTOW226/10/20 02:29 AM
2

What do we do? Find something else that you truly love, chase that, and forget about women altogether. Focusing on what annoys you only makes you annoyed; focusing on what you love makes you productive.
/r/MGTOW226/10/20 02:27 AM
2

"never make a contract with someone who can benefit from breaking that contract." That's it; that's exactly the maxim I arrived at several decades ago. But cutting women out of our lives to make some kind of ideological point is sheer dogma. Worse than dogma, I'd say: juvenile twaddle.
/r/MGTOW224/10/20 03:08 AM
2

https://archive.fo/WKIbT
/r/MensRights23/10/20 08:39 PM
5

It's a great documentary and Cassie Jaye risked (and lost) a lot by persevering when making it.
/r/MensRights22/10/20 12:16 AM
3

Wait a minute, what??? These people sincerely think there's something wrong with a person choosing not to wear a skirt???? Oafs. Look, they're just pissed 'cuz you're not a joiner and if anyone refuses to join, the mob is no longer so certain of its own judgments anymore. Never let the mob rule; they're fools.
/r/MensRights22/10/20 12:14 AM
4

I have to agree on this one. I do report a lot of posts that I think are off-topic or unduly bitter and negative, but I also try not to abuse that, and when I report a post that's on the line, I say it's on the line and a tough call. This post is none of those things: it's clear, it's accurate, it's well-sourced, and it's directly relevant to our interests. u/casra888's is a 100% solid, on-point post. Idunno--is there something I'm not seeing?
/r/MGTOW221/10/20 10:13 PM
2

Negging works against women; it never really occurs to women that it might not work against men.
/r/MGTOW221/10/20 10:05 PM
2

The guys in American Pie were depicted largely as screw-ups; are they keeping that feature of the gender-switch, too?
/r/MensRights21/10/20 10:02 PM
3

Aye, that could do it. I mean, we could always ask l'Oreal what's keeping them so mum on the subject, right?...
/r/MensRights21/10/20 09:56 PM
2

The wage gap is as fake as CNN. No, even more so. I know that's hard to believe, but it's true. It's one of the great feminist lies that refuse to die.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/10/20 01:23 AM
0

Madam, my income numbers, like my thoughts, my speech, my religion, my bedroom, and my chosen way of life are none of your damned business. Go fuss with something that is.
/r/MensRights21/10/20 01:17 AM
1

What happened to the Johnny Depp v. Amber Heard court proceedings? They stopped being interesting/useful to people who shape the news.
/r/MensRights21/10/20 01:15 AM
6

Thomas Sowell covered this exact point way back in 1979: the only real "wage gap" is between single mothers and everyone else. So now let's ask it: why have the simple, mathematically indisputable facts on this "debate" been obscured somehow for 41 years and counting? Simple oversight? Unlikely. Concerted effort? Seems so...
/r/MensRights21/10/20 01:13 AM
1

Yeah, this one definitely sounds pretty damned creepy IMO.
/r/MensRights20/10/20 02:27 AM
1

https://archive.fo/IrmFG
/r/MensRights19/10/20 01:28 PM
4

Women say we are beating kids but its really them(statistically) Doesn't that depend a bit on the country? In AU child abuse is very predominantly female, but in the US (from the numbers I've seen, anyway) it's only slightly predominantly female--something like 55% to 45%, IIRC. Also the link you cite is for filicide, not child abuse overall. I would think numbers on the latter would be more fitting to your argument, no?
/r/MensRights19/10/20 02:59 AM
1

Not really related to men's rights, but whatever: https://archive.fo/mnc6y
/r/MensRights17/10/20 06:18 PM
3

Hm. It might be from some security settings on your browser. In order to view quarantined subs I've found it necessary to enable Javascript and redirect links. Best of luck.
/r/MensRights17/10/20 06:12 PM
3

Ah. Well, there I fully agree.
/r/MensRights17/10/20 02:49 PM
5

Acrimony begetting acrimony: I wonder what that'll beget?
/r/MensRights17/10/20 02:29 PM
1

no idea why it got deleted. It didn't.
/r/MensRights17/10/20 02:28 PM
91

When in large numbers men walk away, women get nervous.
/r/MGTOW217/10/20 04:17 AM
11

It isn't. Some guys come on here just to complain about women and highlight the worst of their worst.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/10/20 08:58 PM
23

That was my question, yeah. I've a hunch maybe they weren't talking about euros, pounds sterling, or U.S. dollars, you know? I mean, if we're talking Nepali rupees, I can see it.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/10/20 08:54 PM
1

"Pay wall," you say? Pah! Them things ain't nothin': https://archive.fo/hIJub
/r/MensRights16/10/20 08:47 PM
36

That's feminists for you: "It's not sexism when we do it." Yes, it is: that's why you do it.
/r/MensRights16/10/20 01:17 AM
4

Journalists who don't understand the science habitually misrepresent it, and it sure doesn't help that upset ideologues from "Gender Studies" departments intentionally (and shrilly) misrepresent it at every turn.
/r/MGTOW215/10/20 02:05 AM
2

That was a total gas. I haven't had a laugh like that in a while; better than the Pelosi interview on CNN, so thanks for it.
/r/MGTOW215/10/20 02:02 AM
2

It's a rule of thumb, not an absolute rule. Not everyone in MGTOW honestly thinks the rule true (even as a rule of thumb). A great swath of the content of what younger guys call "Red Pill philosophy" really is just a bunch of re-badged sociobiology (a la Dawkins) and evolutionary psychology. They just don't realize it because they haven't read the books. You're surely right that these things come in degrees.
/r/MGTOW215/10/20 01:55 AM
6

Wow...that was a happy ending! And well done on the discipline and self-control, Tiny. That was lovely.
/r/PussyPassDenied15/10/20 01:48 AM
2

Men and women are not nearly so different from each other as some guys here would like to suppose.
/r/MGTOW214/10/20 12:31 PM
8

understand On the Left and the Right I just haven't met many people interested in that anymore.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/10/20 01:19 AM
1

Yeah, I guess that's fair.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/20 09:03 PM
1

Bill Burr is a closeted MRA He ain't in no closet; Bill Burr is explicitly MRA and proud of it. He goes on at length in most of his stand-up gigs.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/20 12:33 AM
5

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVRVjOh18r8 Lousy audio and lousy video, but it's the actual monologue and it's in one piece.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/20 12:16 AM
6

Love Bill Burr; love what he's doing; love watching the snowflakes lose their minds. "You People Are All the Same" "I'm Sorry You Feel That Way" L-o-v-e Bill Burr.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/10/20 12:14 AM
27

Mothers always want grandkids and always will. You just have to learn to work around her instead of discussing it. Trust me on this one.
/r/MGTOW212/10/20 12:09 AM
1

I'd look at states like Mississippi, West Virginia, and Alabama. Confine your search to the rural parts of those states and you should find something cheap, basic, and laissez-faire. Sorry you have to deal with this. Family's family, though, right?
/r/MGTOW212/10/20 12:05 AM
2

Yes, there is negativity, you don't arrive at Mgtow without it. Bullshit. I did it. To the mods of this reddit: Please don't push us all out of here, some are upset and angry [...] Fuck that. They should ban every single one who comes on here complaining. This sub explicitly is for men who've already gotten over the anger. Those who haven't can post on arrh/MGTOW. Read the sub's rules again; read them closely: "No women-hating, hate, and negativity in general: keep the misogyny to a minimum." Th…
/r/MGTOW212/10/20 12:01 AM
3

Cry for me, bitches. I love to hear the sound of it.
/r/MensRights11/10/20 11:49 PM
26

Feminists have no interest in actual equality or even simple decency: all they care about is control.
/r/MensRights11/10/20 11:44 PM
9

I wouldn't even call it a history: I'd say it's more of an ongoing habit or even a sort of hobby.
/r/MensRights11/10/20 11:41 PM
1

From an incel wiki. This'll definitely be objective and intellectually honest.
/r/MensRights11/10/20 01:36 AM
2

https://archive.fo/tEOeM So now I'm going to go watch my old VHS of Toxic Avenger. And after that maybe Attack of the Killer Tomatoes. Gotta love them B movies, baby!!
/r/MensRights11/10/20 01:33 AM
1

It's a small victory: she admitted she was wrong about something. How often does that happen?
/r/MensRights10/10/20 12:51 AM
1

Small victories are still victories. Well done.
/r/MensRights09/10/20 08:31 PM
1

I reached the same conclusion back around 1995. Since then I've seen nothing to change my mind.
/r/MensRights09/10/20 01:17 PM
2

Start here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/wiki/reading
/r/MensRights09/10/20 01:15 PM
9

GF broke up with me today. I think it’s time to go my own way. Make this decision only after your emotions aren't so raw and fresh. The bachelor life isn't for everyone.
/r/MGTOW209/10/20 01:59 AM
7

I completely agree; warn him so he can contact HR before those girls do anything.
/r/MensRights09/10/20 01:42 AM
3

Across the internet we cry out for manners, etiquette, and civility. But nowhere is anyone teaching any. So where would we learn them?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/10/20 04:11 PM
1

Not all trolling (including concern trolling) can be cleaned up as soon as it happens. This is a small sub with a very small number of mods and my guess is they all have day jobs, you know? Report posts that break the sub's rules (flush right) and move on. They'll decide what stays and what goes.
/r/MGTOW208/10/20 02:40 PM
18

Now, that's what I call public service.
/r/PussyPassDenied08/10/20 02:31 PM
3

"Learn to code."
/r/MensRights08/10/20 02:27 PM
3

Why not? Seems fine to me.
/r/MGTOW208/10/20 12:42 AM
29

Uh-huh. And will they also sell women an $8,500 muzzle to fight toxic femininity? I mean, if a sucker truly is born every minute...
/r/MensRights08/10/20 12:40 AM
5

Do feminists often make a big deal out of things in their gender that aren't actually that bad "Na-ahhhhh, that'd never happen..."
/r/MensRights07/10/20 08:57 PM
4

[N]o matter what I say I can't convince her of the double standard here. Half her arguments don't make sense and I would love some fact based arguments in the comments The evidence isn't what's moving her at this point. Figure out what is and redirect your attack there.
/r/MensRights07/10/20 01:19 PM
4

Do you have a telephone? You can (and I say should) call your state's review board/certifiers for the care homes (or just 999 if you can't figure out whom else to call) and complain to them about the abuse, because what you've described unequivocally is abuse. If you complain directly to the state, then the facility is threatened with punitive action and they'll fire that orderly inside of five minutes and no one working there will ever dare to treat you like that again. It's a business, after a…
/r/MensRights07/10/20 01:31 AM
7

Over 2,500 years ago the Buddha taught humanity about the real origins of discontentment, but I guess some folks still haven't gotten the message.
/r/MGTOW206/10/20 10:16 PM
3

https://archive.fo/UKkav
/r/MensRights06/10/20 10:05 PM
1

https://archive.fo/8YP4G
/r/MensRights06/10/20 02:13 PM
3

Perry and Pegkoz are making the world a better place when the popular thing to do is just complain about it. It's good to have heroes.
/r/MensRights06/10/20 01:59 PM
1

Yeah, not just something like that: that exactly. That is exactly what they say and it is indeed as intellectually vacuous as it sounds.
/r/MensRights06/10/20 01:51 PM
1

Oh, no--I agree with you this far. I did not see any political messages in it, either. My cautious attitude is because it's through Youtube Videos and Youtube is rampant with political bias and message-control. Everything in that trailer you linked, though, looked 100% fine to me. I just worry that if Youtube is the one releasing it there might be some subtle efforts toward control over the content. Sorry for any miscommunication.
/r/MGTOW206/10/20 12:43 AM
3

Feminists lie: feminists lie persistently and then demonize anyone who ever points it out. It's one of their principal tactics in trying to maniuplate public opinion and policy, and proof of this is immediately visible in the history of the "gender wage gap" myth, which got exposed as mathematically inept by Thomas Sowell way back in 1979, yet they keep pushing it to this day and now lie about what the supposed gap measurement is in order to obscure the history of their error. A similar situatio…
/r/MensRights05/10/20 01:36 PM
33

My "Not My Problem" box is getting really full these days. Oh, well: let it overflow. Not my problem.
/r/MGTOW205/10/20 12:42 PM
3

Slightly cleaned link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDxVWGLkQKU It's through Youtube Videos, so I reserve some doubts about its ability to be fully honest and avoid the political posturing "social messaging" in which YT habitually indugles. Still, it doesn't look awful or anything.
/r/MGTOW205/10/20 12:38 PM
3

Lots. Just look for any character that's a "confirmed bachelor" and >boom<, there you go.
/r/MGTOW203/10/20 02:07 AM
19

Many of you think that Feminism is about equality On this subreddit??? No. No, we don't. Feminism is a hate group and Gearhart is excrement and belongs in prison.
/r/MensRights02/10/20 09:41 PM
9

Apparently, my sarcastic tone is lost on some people. The essence of Reddit.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen02/10/20 01:08 PM
3

https://archive.fo/SEzFV
/r/MensRights29/09/20 08:23 PM
2

Blood pressure Money Time Self-discipline Hobbies Happiness
/r/MGTOW227/09/20 06:47 PM
2

The word "worse" is the one I disagree with; what it does is it makes thing clear despite all their noisy little rhetoric.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/09/20 06:45 PM
8

It just feels like there is an expectation that I participate in all of these activities when quite frankly I don’t want to. It feels like boundaries are crossed when his life choices are imposed onto mine if that makes sense. Oh, yeah--okay, that I totally get. Now I'm with you. Married/"committed relationship" friends often have trouble understanding those of us who do not want what they have. They somehow think everyone ought to want it, which is silly.
/r/MGTOW225/09/20 01:31 PM
19

I don't begrudge my married friends their life choices; why should I? I'm happy with mine and they're happy with theirs. What's the big deal??
/r/MGTOW225/09/20 01:20 PM
1

Yeah, no kidding. MGTOW is not an alternative to finding what you want; it's finding that what you want is the alternative. Guys who sincerely want a family should go ahead and fight to find a decent girl and have a family; guys who sincerely don't want a family are the ones that belong on this subreddit.
/r/MGTOW225/09/20 01:13 PM
2

You rang? https://archive.fo/mRVFr
/r/MensRights24/09/20 11:40 PM
1

You cannot be pilloried for ideas you never share.
/r/MGTOW224/09/20 01:37 AM
0

Ditto. 100% ditto.
/r/MensRights23/09/20 01:13 PM
6

https://archive.fo/2NSku The Good Men Project is a perfectly miserable feminist sell-out.
/r/MensRights22/09/20 11:59 PM
3

That men lack "emotional intelligence." That men don't belong in college. That men are "useless." That men are "animals." That young men's failing academic achievement is their own fault. That women are simply better at running things. That "oppression" only ever flows in one direction. That sexism only ever flows in one direction. That their hatred of men is justified and therefore not culpable (in fact, they really do think it's praiseworthy). A general dismissive attitude toward men.
/r/MensRights21/09/20 01:16 PM
6

I'm a tenured professor, so my answer is, "Yes, daily." Of course it's a hostile work environment, but what shall we suppose a university's H.R. dep't. is going to do about it?
/r/MensRights21/09/20 01:07 PM
-1

Imagine thinking this was a "bad thing" Does it take power away from them? That's all they really mean anymore by "bad."
/r/MensRights21/09/20 01:05 PM
6

https://archive.fo/Rspb9 What's the point of parody when reality is already there?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/20 01:37 AM
68

Yeah, but it took him two shots. She was heavy for sure.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/09/20 01:34 AM
1

I would've followed her, no problem.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates21/09/20 01:14 AM
16

How perfectly unsurprising. When the rhetorical postures are finished, they are exactly what we've long said they are: blind hatred personified.
/r/MensRights20/09/20 06:43 PM
0

Ahhh. That does explain it.
/r/PussyPassDenied20/09/20 06:41 PM
3

MGTOWs do not seek to rescue a culture that is already dying; we seek to rescue ourselves from that culture. Kind of modern day Benedictines, if you will.
/r/MGTOW220/09/20 04:22 PM
4

Didn't...didn't he kick the wrong car?? They were in the Lexus, weren't they??
/r/PussyPassDenied20/09/20 04:11 PM
77

The truth of this is too easily underestimated.
/r/MensRights20/09/20 04:07 PM
1

https://archive.fo/3jEjM My browser's security add-ons threw up some warnings about the connection being insecure (prolly just a simple "Hey, this link isn't using https!"), so I archived it. The cited book is from the 90s, when dissent was still kind of permitted in feminism (albeit grudgingly).
/r/MensRights20/09/20 04:03 PM
0

Meth is just a helluva drug, huh? No PPD in here, though; it's just more random crap.
/r/PussyPassDenied20/09/20 12:17 AM
4

Whose opinions of men are you still allowing to matter? Why are you allowing them to matter? I mean, running through your own list of those people, do you respect their opinions on other things, too? I don't.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/20 02:56 PM
24

Retards. Any organization that bans Aristotle has exactly zero business calling itself intellectual. Ever.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/20 02:54 PM
1

It's utter idiocy. This is not a competition. There is no "MGTOW social hierarchy" for anyone to climb and the desire to climb one is itself proof of a failure to think.
/r/MGTOW219/09/20 02:51 PM
1

Where is the education BIAS against boys? Rampant, of course. Where are gender employment quotas. Ditto. All your points here, I say, are on the money. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Here we might quibble. Some of the feminists who caused all this harm had good intentions and bad theories, yes, but some others really did have bad intentions right from the start. Radical feminism was never predicated on a desire for equality; it was predicated wholly on hatred and contempt. Take …
/r/MensRights19/09/20 02:46 PM
18

I just poured one out in her honor. Even in those many places where I disagreed with her, I always admired her; I admired her for her extreme intellect and even more so for her honesty. We could do with some more of that today.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/09/20 01:41 AM
4

Shit! Yes, I meant "Duluth." Forgive me--I'm a bit drunk right now as I've just learned Ruth Bader Ginsburg has died. I'll have time to be sober in the morning, I figure. I'll go edit it. "Dubuque" kinda sounds catchy, though, don't it?
/r/MensRights19/09/20 01:29 AM
22

Forty years of hiding and even de-publishing evidence of female-on-male abuse and female violence generally. "Systemic" (what cute, vacuous catch-words the academic left chooses, eh?) hostility toward both alimony reform and child custody reform. Patriarchy theory "systemically" used to blame men for all societal problems even when the evidence suggests women caused at least some. The Duluth Model (do I really need to explain it?). Erosion of freedom of speech. Erosion of intellectual honesty bo…
/r/MensRights19/09/20 01:22 AM
1

Living a John Lee Hooker song, are ye? You could do worse.
/r/MGTOW218/09/20 10:41 PM
1

Yep, that's right where I am. I want someone who actually can work within the bureaucracy without breaking everything he touches, and that sure ain't Trump.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates18/09/20 10:38 PM
1

For those w/access issues: https://archive.fo/PN8hN
/r/MensRights18/09/20 12:41 AM
6

It's really not about the draft; it's about Trump's rampaging hypocrisy.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/20 11:19 PM
1

Seriously. I've never understood it. Racism truly is mentally deficient.
/r/PussyPassDenied17/09/20 11:17 PM
11

When I think of all the bullets I've dodged...
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/09/20 11:15 PM
1

Sorry--just as a follow-up: I should've said "single women." Mothers qua mothers are necessary for psychologically healthy children just as fathers are, of course, but single mothers are statistically disastrous.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/20 11:13 PM
4

There it is--the truth that'll get you pilloried for uttering it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/20 10:57 PM
1

We need to start normalizing two parents in the household again because I know children of single fathers as well. Both parents--father and mother--really are needed. The collapse of the two-parent nuclear family has been a disaster about which everyone in the media is too intimidated to speak.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/20 10:53 PM
2

That's not what the numbers say. Not at all. Children of single fathers suffer none of these issues as much. They do, however, suffer from some damaging attachment disorders. You know, it's almost like kids need both parents to grow up well. But there I go being an old coot again...
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/20 10:51 PM
1

Look up the stats specifically for sons of single mothers with respect to crime, violence, drug & alcohol addiction, high school graduation rates, incarceration, antisocial tendencies, and depression. It's a shitshow.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/20 08:07 PM
1

The absolute worst thing to happen to boys in America was to be raised by women.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates17/09/20 02:44 PM
3

Uh-huh. Just go ahead and light the match. What's the worst that could happen?
/r/MGTOW217/09/20 02:55 AM
11

It's like a garage sale for particle board furniture but the seller wants $1000/item.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/09/20 12:38 AM
3

NOW explicitly worked very hard to prevent alimony reform and child custody reform. Assuming a similar push today, I'd expect them to do it again. Where are the intersectional feminists who vocally oppose them? Where are the intersectional feminists who publicly admit "rape culture" is a long-refuted myth (a lie, really)? Where are the intersectional feminists who publicly admit the "wage gap" is a long-refuted myth? Since power is never a simple binary between men and women, where are the inter…
/r/MensRights17/09/20 12:34 AM
5

Pelennor Fields all over again. No PPD in here, though.
/r/PussyPassDenied16/09/20 02:41 AM
4

Should we call this "womanspreading" just for giggles?
/r/MGTOW216/09/20 12:35 AM
3

A strange thing to obsess over... Perhaps another subreddit would be more appropriate for this specific kvetch?
/r/MensRights16/09/20 12:13 AM
5

It's called the AMP Project and it is an enormous guerrilla-style privacy invasion by Google.
/r/MensRights15/09/20 06:36 PM
1

I insist on good grammar solely because it is extremely easy to misinterpret people I am right there with you. Can one get too fussy at times (the nonsense from the 19th century over separated compound verbs and such)? Of course. But which default is best? Being careful. Hereafter my "sinces" shall refer only to specific times.
/r/MensRights15/09/20 06:34 PM
7

What made you MGTOW? Observing women's behavior (especially when they didn't think I was).
/r/MGTOW215/09/20 03:14 PM
7

"I think Chivalry is dead" Let's hope so. "You guys need to stop being so cheap on dates" No, you do. "Being a girl is very expensive" Get a better job.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/09/20 03:11 PM
3

https://archive.fo/L3wsj
/r/PussyPassDenied15/09/20 03:07 PM
1

https://archive.fo/L3wsj Good. The whole thing was bullshit from the start.
/r/MensRights15/09/20 03:06 PM
13

Lemme jus' de-AMP that li'l bitch, huh? Yeah: https://archive.fo/LEsk6
/r/MensRights15/09/20 02:57 PM
1

Ohhhh. Then we had a type of online miscommunication of which there are too many. Let me be the one to apologize, then, if my tone came across as rude; I didn't intend it that way. I did demand proof because I was taught by a friend who seemed pretty sure of herself in grad school that preposition use is a lot more flexible than folks generally suppose, whereas you were emphatic about the for/since rule. I needed to see proof, and you provided it. I'm actually grateful to learn a new linguistic …
/r/MensRights15/09/20 02:53 PM
2

For those w/access issues (I got a warning of "you do not have permission to access x"): https://archive.fo/sxfya
/r/PussyPassDenied15/09/20 01:43 AM
6

De-AMPed link: https://archive.fo/VX4PX
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/09/20 10:55 PM
1

Ahh. Okay--you had it right. I'll remember it. Thank you. On the other side, though, what reason had you to get so rude and snippy with me in your last note over something so minor and pedantic? That was childish.
/r/MensRights14/09/20 10:29 PM
1

Prove it. Cite the official source with the actual rule (not habit--rule) that my specific use of "since" clearly violates. I don't think there is one.
/r/MensRights14/09/20 12:48 PM
5

How utterly predictable.
/r/MensRights14/09/20 04:54 AM
14

Street violence, not PPD. Not only are there no heroes in this video, there are no people who deserve to be allowed in public unaccompanied by a prison guard.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/09/20 11:07 PM
4

My security add-ons threw up a few (probably false-positive) warnings on that link, so here's an archive for the paranoid: https://archive.fo/5oPKy This article was six years ago, yet it is still fully relevant and needed today. I find that telling.
/r/MensRights13/09/20 10:57 PM
2

Mh. Yeah, okay--I'm willing to concede the point. No sweat.
/r/MGTOW213/09/20 10:39 PM
3

https://archive.fo/929pK
/r/MensRights13/09/20 03:45 PM
2

We're in an election year; the odds of that are pretty low right now.
/r/MensRights13/09/20 03:42 PM
-2

This isn't the right sub for this (important though it is); this subreddit is for what we're doing with our lives after getting over ourselves, not for the things we think inhibit us from doing so.
/r/MGTOW213/09/20 03:40 PM
8

Yeah, this is total and obvious satire. That anyone thinks it's serious tells me bad things about society's current arc.
/r/MensRights13/09/20 12:08 AM
1

Yeah, I know. It's been like this (and getting worse) for some time. I figure "so what?" The signal-to-noise ratio is a little higher, but this whole subreddit was predicated on a kind of cultural trash-talk anyway; I just filter out the noise while visiting.
/r/PussyPassDenied13/09/20 12:03 AM
1

Nope. For is when you use a duration of time, since is when you use an exact point of time. "For decades now, men are..." works fine. Oh. That's helpful, then. Thanks. Then what's the point of using a language at all, if you're going to make your own rules? It's not my own rule; think this through. The general rule on prepositions is that they are flexible especially because of how metaphorical all of them ultimately are. If this is not already obvious to you, just reflect briefly on the variety…
/r/MensRights13/09/20 12:00 AM
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Now, THIS is actual, legitimate, in-the-wild PPD!! Awesome, awesome stuff. Mad props to those officers, especially the quick-witted one at the end.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/09/20 02:34 PM
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It's called the "women are wonderful" effect: https://becauseits2015.wordpress.com/2017/06/10/the-women-are-wonderful-effect-we-dont-live-in-a-culture-of-misogyny/
/r/MensRights12/09/20 02:16 PM
1

I tried that before posting, but it doesn't work. With "for" it'd have to go to past tense and then I couldn't keep both clauses in the present tense, which I very much wanted to do. Besides, non-standard preposition use is not necessarily wrong.
/r/MensRights12/09/20 02:08 PM
19

Bullshit to your "bullshit" charge. There are all sorts of organizations around now that conscientiously take up these sorts of cases pro bono and there are increasingly many young men suing universities for discrimination and winning substantial settlements. Look up guys like Pegkoz and Perry: they're doing it almost monthly and suing schools they've never attended or worked at (and winning). I don't think you know much about the university system and how it really works. An employee would get …
/r/MensRights12/09/20 02:48 AM
7

Here's the difference: Since decades now, men really are trying to become better. Women aren't.
/r/MensRights12/09/20 02:37 AM
4

Get a vasectomy. ^ Not even remotely kidding, /u/mickymouse56 : do it soon and don't tell anyone you've done it.
/r/MGTOW212/09/20 02:27 AM
17

No, it's more like an iguana giving it a try.
/r/MGTOW212/09/20 02:24 AM
43

Sure, he will. He's a student, not an employee. All he needs to do is make a big enough ruckus to the media outlets and the uni will fold. It's a business in the end and they're far more concerned with perception than with anything like what's actually fair.
/r/MensRights12/09/20 02:23 AM
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Nope--fuck that. Just loudly call them morally incompetent right from the outset (they are) and announce you're doing it because of the injustice of the current system. They're only bullies so long as no one fights back; these twats have no stomach for the real thing.
/r/MensRights12/09/20 02:19 AM
5

M is incompatible with ILF. It just is.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen11/09/20 11:22 PM
2

You're trying to stop being human. That won't work.
/r/MGTOW211/09/20 09:46 PM
1

Everyone has occasional nightmares; don't beat yourself up/off about it.
/r/MGTOW211/09/20 09:45 PM
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First complain about it and then start using the women's room and be loud about it until they change the arrangement. If they do anything to you, sue and scream to the papers until the bad P.R. gets them off their butts.
/r/MensRights11/09/20 09:36 PM
74

You'll find both good and bad on here. Choose your friends patiently after watching their behavior and you should be fine.
/r/MensRights11/09/20 09:34 PM
213

Can we discuss adding mandatory paternity testing to standard birth workups? We can, yes. Will any feminists listen even to one minute of it? Well, it's been decades and they haven't yet.
/r/MensRights11/09/20 09:32 PM
5

Not everyone wants to be free.
/r/MGTOW211/09/20 10:55 AM
15

Well, the post is tagged as humor.
/r/MensRights11/09/20 10:47 AM
2

https://archive.fo/WFSAP The ideological blinders on this one could blot out the Sun.
/r/MensRights11/09/20 10:45 AM
5

But remember, fellas: feminism is not about hatred. Nope. That's all just a myth and a misunderstanding. ^^<sup>/s</sup>
/r/MensRights11/09/20 12:46 AM
4

Yep--that's Jersey for ya.
/r/PussyPassDenied10/09/20 11:47 PM
7

Exactly. The rate of proven false accusations is almost exactly the same as the rate of proven true ones. Don't expect the BBC to mention that, though (because they won't).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/20 11:40 PM
3

Take it here: https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2/comments/hp9isq/banned_from_mgtow_megathread_post_it_here/
/r/MGTOW210/09/20 04:07 PM
3

Feminists are nothing if not predictable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates10/09/20 04:01 PM
11

Gosh, that all just sounds awful! I wonder how it came about?...
/r/MensRights10/09/20 03:47 PM
9

Couldn't happen to a more deserving group of girls.
/r/MensRights10/09/20 03:34 PM
37

https://archive.fo/zFdWW Jesus, what a moral shitshow the family courts have become. Wolves indeed.
/r/MensRights10/09/20 04:34 AM
2

There is absolutely no PPD here; there is generic street violence and nothing more.
/r/PussyPassDenied10/09/20 04:30 AM
16

Well, tell me when they start "raising girls to respect boys" and I'll 100% get behind the joint effort.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/20 11:12 PM
3

Retards. Plain, simple retards.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates09/09/20 08:27 PM
3

Parler, maybe? Don't know much about it, but the woke scolds have no control over it, so that's good.
/r/MGTOW209/09/20 08:24 PM
1

Right on.
/r/MensRights09/09/20 08:22 PM
6

May I just interject to point out that r/PPD has now renamed the "report" button to "bitch?" God, I love this place.
/r/PussyPassDenied09/09/20 01:24 PM
1

I swear the only reason you're getting downvoted is you didn't put the explicit "/s" in there. I guess parody on the internet falls flat when reality too closely resembles it.
/r/MensRights09/09/20 01:17 PM
2

It is not what they say, but what they do that defines them.
/r/MensRights09/09/20 12:16 AM
1

https://archive.fo/1IP6g Just another ordinary day at the Guardian.
/r/MensRights08/09/20 04:10 PM
3

Personal tip I wish someone had given me, Carlos: in time even the memory of the bitterness fades and dissipates. It takes a while, but it does happen.
/r/MGTOW208/09/20 02:13 PM
1

https://archive.fo/jmHFi
/r/MensRights08/09/20 04:39 AM
1

https://archive.fo/ILvin Some people just won't let their lies expire.
/r/MensRights07/09/20 09:25 PM
8

Heeheeheeheeheehee. "Oops! Ma'am, I think your narrative is slipping."
/r/MensRights07/09/20 09:21 PM
5

No option to drop the class? If not, then so long as we're talking about a public school, you conceivably could complain to your parents about her behavior and intellectual bullying (that is what it is) and they could complain to the superintendent or principal. People do have bosses, after all. From personal experience I'll say never, ever try going to her first: just go over her head with it immediately and have Dad & Mom raise Hell with her boss. Sorry you have to endure this sort of crap, ma…
/r/MensRights07/09/20 09:18 PM
4

Links to Vice et al really, really ought to come pre-wrapped in internet condoms: https://archive.fo/DjmN7 Also, I agree with u/30203forever that praise from a place like Vice would be the really morally worrying thing.
/r/MGTOW207/09/20 09:07 PM
8

Which leads me to question where the...um, bitterness? anger? vitriol? come from in some posts/comments. It has gotten a lot worse on here in the past year or so since arr/MGTOW got quarantined whereby a lot of more bitter (and often younger) guys tried to move over here for their oh-so-public kvetching parties. Not everyone who seeks personal liberation has achieved it and some are nearer it while others still have a long way to go. By analogy: no Buddhist starts out a bodhisattva, right? I’m i…
/r/MGTOW207/09/20 08:59 PM
67

This is an actual MGTOW2 post!--one of few in the past week. No lazy memes, no self-obsessed bitching about women; an actual useful, productive thing u/mwaambi is doing with his free time since unplugging. Beautiful work on that thing, mwaambi. Is what we see the finished color, then? No stain or anything I assume? And how long did the whole project take you?
/r/MGTOW207/09/20 08:46 PM
5

One is a buzzword of popular moralizing academic jargon while the other is an actual psychological classification.
/r/MGTOW207/09/20 11:22 AM
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When was the last time you had an "intellectual" conversation with a woman? Yesterday. I don't think this is a gendered thing at all; I think it's more about what sorts of friends one chooses.
/r/MGTOW207/09/20 11:20 AM
2

Most of the time when a baby smiles it's gas. Most of the time when a woman smiles she isn't actually happy.
/r/MensRights07/09/20 12:13 AM
9

Don't forget the Guardian. No one has out-ideologued those troglodytes.
/r/MensRights06/09/20 04:42 PM
5

It does not. No, indeed.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/09/20 04:39 PM
3

It isn't.
/r/PussyPassDenied06/09/20 04:37 PM
2

doesn't have to do with men's rights Sweet Jesus. Did you even read that thing? Men's rights and the continuing feminist erasure of them is EXACTLY what that whole link is about.
/r/MensRights06/09/20 04:29 PM
35

^ That's it right there. The real problem women have today isn't a poor selection pool of men; the problem women have today is that they are no longer worth having.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen06/09/20 04:23 PM
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Journalism is dead.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/09/20 11:55 PM
1

Yep.
/r/MensRights04/09/20 11:45 PM
2

https://archive.fo/vYw1j
/r/MensRights04/09/20 11:44 PM
4

De-AMPed link: https://archive.fo/GPsJL
/r/MensRights03/09/20 05:51 PM
2

With way too much empty time on their hands, yes.
/r/MensRights03/09/20 03:58 AM
5

Heheheheheh. The 40 is a worthy achievement, but the 140 improved your quality of life tenfold. Well done.
/r/MGTOW202/09/20 10:39 PM
2

Making mistakes is inevitable; learning from them is the part that only some people accomplish.
/r/MGTOW202/09/20 01:26 PM
10

I completely agree.
/r/MGTOW202/09/20 01:25 PM
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Also, don't take advice from incels, if they knew anything they wouldn't be incels. Boy, is that ever the truth. u/thriwaway72717, I propose a two-part question you should ask yourself and consider patiently: What were you clinging to that you are now mourning the loss of, and why do you regard it as a loss? Answer that and I think you'll be at least half-way toward remotivating yourself.
/r/MGTOW202/09/20 01:22 PM
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Is...is she the fat girl with thin lips in the picture up top?
/r/MensRights02/09/20 01:10 PM
2

??? https://www.reddit.com/r/toxicfemininity They set it to private, though, so you'd need an invite.
/r/MensRights02/09/20 01:55 AM
61

Suicide rate for men reaches its highest level in two decades... "...women most affected." https://archive.fo/GAEzg
/r/MensRights01/09/20 03:23 PM
6

"We are a petty officer"??? No, that really isn't how this works.
/r/MensRights01/09/20 12:24 AM
7

Lifelong anti-feminist right here says you are either high or trolling (or maybe trolling while high, which is very popular).
/r/MensRights31/08/20 01:29 PM
4

In 2020 that somehow is no longer even a joke.
/r/PussyPassDenied31/08/20 01:20 PM
3

You said it!
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates31/08/20 02:54 AM
1

Mostly, yeah, but do think also of all the vernacular, turns of phrase, and general linguistic tropes that'd get called into it.
/r/MensRights31/08/20 02:46 AM
1

https://archive.fo/9oUqC
/r/MensRights30/08/20 06:00 PM
8

I hope some guys adapt it to find misandry too. Now, that would be an excellent hack; I'm sure someone will get it up and running before long. https://archive.fo/OF2m6
/r/MensRights30/08/20 05:56 PM
1

https://archive.fo/FPiv9 This is from 2014. I wonder if Cathy Young still feels hopeful and optimistic.
/r/MensRights30/08/20 02:32 AM
12

"Some people should die; that's just unconscious knowledge."
/r/MensRights30/08/20 02:29 AM
1

Could it be that it's because women are doing so much better than men? Nnaahhhhh--that'd be too easy. Well, look, let's give them this: they are entertaining.
/r/MensRights28/08/20 09:39 PM
4

It isn't. Feminists in particular simply have no capacity to get the fuck over themselves and the way they respond to these wisecracks proves it.
/r/MensRights28/08/20 09:26 PM
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For anyone with access issues: https://archive.fo/ojfcx The only people who can surprised by this are those who've paid no attention in the last several decades.
/r/MensRights28/08/20 01:21 PM
3

Exactly. I mean, we intentionally go to a subreddit full of hysterical head cases and then we're supposed to be surprised by what we find?? I just don't buy that.
/r/MensRights28/08/20 04:17 AM
3

Once LSD is opening your third eye, stuff about dating should be the absolute least of your interests. Nearly all the mushrooms I came across back in my days were inert, fake "magic mushrooms" laced with LSD. So it isn't like taking acid; it is taking acid. If you can find real psilocybin mushrooms, they are great, but they're very hard to find (in my experience). Acid, on the other hand, is cheap and abundant.
/r/MGTOW227/08/20 10:22 PM
1

No, no, no. benderXX was drawing an analogy that you're not quite getting.
/r/MensRights27/08/20 05:03 AM
2

Idunno, man. I really regard this one as more of a parenting issue than a sexism issue. She easily might worried about his beliefs, but it could be more about his state of mind and worries about his ability to adapt to the world around him. I mean, were I a parent and saw my teenage kid--boy or girl--getting really bitter and nursing a growing victimhood complex, I'd probably hit the panic button, too.
/r/MensRights26/08/20 11:24 PM
2

Okay, now that's just mean. What did this guy ever do to you that you'd want him subjected to that?? Just think of what his inbox would look like.
/r/MensRights26/08/20 11:16 PM
2

When did journalist started to be articles of opinion? At the Guardian? A long time ago.
/r/MensRights26/08/20 11:14 PM
9

Not even surprised anymore; not even a little. These people have become so utterly predictable.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/08/20 11:11 PM
4

It's likely you're getting slammed all over the place in the comments, but I want to applaud you for trying to understand something that isn't easy to hear, especially during this sort of personal pain. Not many people will do that.
/r/MGTOW226/08/20 11:08 PM
4

So you think this is going to stay inside America?? I don't.
/r/MGTOW226/08/20 12:21 PM
3

Fear. I smell fear. Meh--not my problem.
/r/MGTOW226/08/20 12:19 PM
2

So those years, from 40-80, spent living alone, won't they feel lonely and empty? Not in my experience, no. In fact, less so than ever. Won't we feel depressed that we don't have a wife? Fuck is wrong with you???? That we don't have a woman in our lives that will care for us and cook us meals/anything else? When was the last time you saw a woman do that?
/r/MGTOW226/08/20 12:17 PM
3

Exactly. So women don't go fight, die, and get maimed for life during wars in exchange for the right to vote. Fine. What do men get, then, as compensation for this?? It's gonna have to be a doozy. Ditto for this on abortion rights (and custody).
/r/MensRights25/08/20 06:28 PM
1

Inmates working the prison system for better scraps is not freedom.
/r/MGTOW225/08/20 06:24 PM
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Lawyers gotta make their money somewhere, I guess. Suing universities seems noble enough to me.
/r/MGTOW225/08/20 06:22 PM
1

Satire.
/r/MensRights24/08/20 11:18 PM
2

I gotta agree: this is a nothing-burger.
/r/MensRights24/08/20 11:17 PM
2

Icky equality isn't the equality they want. I mean, would you??
/r/MensRights24/08/20 11:16 PM
1

This reads like a hodge-podge of self-help book synopses.
/r/MGTOW224/08/20 11:08 PM
3

The rarer it is, the more brightly a beacon of light will seem to shine.
/r/MensRights24/08/20 04:02 PM
4

^ ^ There it is. That's the straight truth of the matter right there.
/r/MensRights24/08/20 03:58 PM
2

Utter lies. Do you know how they arrived at that 2% figure? By going around and asking women who'd accused men of rape whether it was a lie or not. How many women would you expect to fess up to it and just say "Yeah, I totally pulled that one out of my ass?" I'd say somewhere around 2% or lower, wouldn't you? Oh--and then they completely low-balled the number of false accusations found: the actual range even within their biased approach was something like 2-10%, not a flat 2%. Now imagine this: …
/r/MensRights24/08/20 03:51 PM
1

https://archive.fo/2xrId
/r/MensRights24/08/20 03:43 PM
-1

So what? She asked for our opinions and expressly did not want to come here and just voice all of hers. So now we're giving her our arguments and opinions and she's reading them. What's the problem?
/r/MensRights24/08/20 03:40 PM
5

This one's easy (it's a subtle deflection and should be delivered with a somewhat dismissive atttitude): "You look fine; what're you worried about?"
/r/MGTOW224/08/20 03:26 PM
3

That depends on your age and goals. Earlier in life it's better to make a wide assortment of much riskier, higher-reward stock investments. The expectation is that most of these will suck and go belly-up, but enough of them will pay off handsomely and you'll have really good overall returns. Once you're nearing retirement, though, your money-making days should be finished and the portfolio should be in safe, portable investments like index funds and money markets. Still, remember you're just rea…
/r/MGTOW224/08/20 03:22 PM
45

Invest early; invest often.
/r/MGTOW224/08/20 05:08 AM
6

https://archive.fo/1Nv9J Feminism is hate.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/20 05:03 AM
2

https://archive.fo/EdxxB
/r/MensRights24/08/20 02:02 AM
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https://archive.fo/Nf8t4 So you expect a feminist to admit she was in the wrong on something--like not just wrong about some fact(s), but morally wrong. Have you seen that happen much?
/r/MensRights24/08/20 01:59 AM
1

That was my thinkin'.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/08/20 01:53 AM
2

If you control for all the (quantitative) variables available, it's actually a ≤2% gap now. You probably know this already Of course. I chose instead to focus on the "Workplace Gender Death-and-Dismemberment Gap" in order to highlight just how starkly dishonest and morally benumbed the feminists are on this--that's all. Everything you say above is true--yes, indeed.
/r/MensRights23/08/20 10:51 PM
2

https://archive.fo/zASHq Four years ago. Lazy argument then and lazy argument now. Researchers (and reporter) claim the remaining 5% gap just has to be down to sexist cultural norms that disadvantage women, right? Right. So what didn't the researchers and reporter ever think to factor in? Men consistently taking on more dangerous, harmful, life-threatening jobs than women and women having the female privilege of avoiding those jobs (which they persistently do avoid). Plug the "Workplace Gender D…
/r/MensRights23/08/20 06:54 PM
2

Wow--yeah, that is pretty stupid. Still, I wasn't and am not advocating anything here. O.P. said he wanted a sub that was consistently "pro-male" (still not sure what that really means, but okay). I remembered seeing a link to that group about a year ago, so I gave it to him and told him he could check it out. That's it. In retropsect, though, I have to say O.P. does now look to me like a troll--very possibly from arrh/ProMaleCollective--who came here to stir the shit. I should've had my troll r…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/20 03:38 PM
1

Get ahold of yourself. I'm not promoting them. I said explicitly, "I know almost nothing about them," which is a pretty clear and fully accurate statement. Dude wanted something uniformly "pro-male" in his terminology and I remembered once seeing a mention of that subreddit, so I told him he could look there. He decides which subs he likes: you and I do not.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/20 03:36 PM
2

Not true at all. I am also keenly interested in large stacks of money, for instance. "I like money."
/r/MGTOW223/08/20 05:57 AM
1

https://old.reddit.com/r/ProMaleCollective/ I know almost nothing about them, but they might be what you're looking for.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/20 05:55 AM
7

Sounds exactly like Spain to me. Were I a man in Spain, I'd make it my immediate business to emigrate (and not to Argentina, for God's sake!).
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/08/20 01:45 AM
1

Well, since we're talking about Scotland: "Par for the course."
/r/MensRights23/08/20 01:42 AM
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https://archive.fo/fPDgI She's lying her ass off. Did you notice how every accuser magically becomes a victim in her terminology, but falsely accused men are never victims of anything? https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/i9zwsn/liberal_mag_the_nation_decries_alliance_between/g1ip17v/?context=3 https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/i9zwsn/liberal_mag_the_nation_decries_alliance_between/
/r/MensRights23/08/20 01:41 AM
1

I’m not interested in dismissing all of feminism as bullshit, I’m interested in learning about men’s rights. Good for you. Stick to your guns and don't let the typical Reddit ire distract you. Like I said earlier, Farrell's book is your best start. Another that has strengths and weaknesses is Robert Bly's Iron John, but do take some of his societal prescriptions with a grain of salt.
/r/MensRights23/08/20 01:34 AM
8

You'll be wanting a "/s" at the end of that; sarcasm, I've learned, doesn't translate well on the internet.
/r/MensRights22/08/20 09:20 PM
14

The Myth of Male Power by Warren Farrell. If you want to understand Jaye better, you should read what she was reading back when she started changing her mind. Don't just read the person's own work: read their most influential sources. It also is an absolute classic in the men's rights movement. It's the book that convinced me when I first read it back in 1994.
/r/MensRights22/08/20 09:18 PM
3

Boys don't try because morally alienating, misandrous teachers have convinced them not to.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates22/08/20 05:51 PM
6

Twenty or even fifteen years ago I would have said "Good idea," but today I cannot. It's nothing wrong with the bikes themselves, mind you; it's everyone around them. In the past ten years, say, have you noticed the sharp growth of drivers on the road distracted by their phones? Have you, by the side of the road, observed the inevitable consequences of such distraction? Well, hereafter you can expect it only ever to get worse, because it will. I no longer have a motorcycle: I sold it long ago (I…
/r/MGTOW222/08/20 05:49 PM
1

This is one of the most thoughtful, intelligent posts I've seen on MGTOW2 in recent months. Your self-awareness, self-mastery, and rejection of temptation toward pettiness and resentment is what this philosophy is all about.
/r/MGTOW222/08/20 05:35 PM
2

For those with access issues: https://archive.fo/3v0H8
/r/MensRights22/08/20 04:57 PM
52

Yeah, but in her memoir she feigns expresses regret, so that makes it all alright, doesn't it? She should've gotten the chair. She still should.
/r/MensRights22/08/20 04:44 PM
9

Isn't passing your genes in your best interest? No. How on Earth would he personally benefit from that? It just feels weird every other race breeds like no tomorrow but whites are dwindling I fuckin' knew it: an alt-right fag.
/r/MGTOW222/08/20 04:16 AM
3

You don't think you will regret not having a family? Nope. Why should I? Or being on your death bed alone in a ward alone? Nope. Death is coming no matter what any of us do: get used to it. it is an essential part of life are most people in mgtow people who don't possess that urge ? Or given up then strike out to anyone questing them ? You haven't thought any of this through. You're relying on a false dichotomy: either indulge any and all of one's deeper biological urges or just give up on life …
/r/MGTOW222/08/20 04:12 AM
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on one hand i want a family on the other hand i want to be alone. You have to choose: it's one or the other. Has western civilisation fell that much men don't want to breed? Yep. I just feel that you are not a man if you can have children but don't try to find a woman. Fuck is wrong with you, mate??! u/Offscouring is right: how other men define their lives is none of your business.
/r/MGTOW222/08/20 03:58 AM
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I think your sarcasm detector is broken. Her comment was a quip concealing a life of self-hatred and disappointment.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/08/20 02:45 AM
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Her pussypass will not truly be denied until she gets equal time for it. Equal crime? Equal time.
/r/PussyPassDenied22/08/20 02:43 AM
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https://archive.fo/0m7lK
/r/MensRights22/08/20 12:50 AM
2

https://archive.fo/gJfM3 I still say if Mars were to attack tomorrow, objectively the universe would not suffer any meaningful loss. In fact, the rest of the galaxy might be grateful to them for performing an important public service.
/r/MGTOW221/08/20 05:28 PM
1

Predictable, isn't it?
/r/MGTOW221/08/20 05:23 PM
1

Gomorrah.
/r/MGTOW221/08/20 05:07 PM
4

More of them every day.
/r/MensRights21/08/20 05:30 AM
12

"I'll only send nudes to my future bf" this mom says Well, that's comforting at least; I have enough nightmares as it is.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen21/08/20 04:43 AM
3

This question has been asked on here three times in the past several days. The posts keep getting deleted, but the short answer is "Yes, bunches of us."
/r/MGTOW221/08/20 04:39 AM
1

https://archive.fo/UsiuW
/r/MensRights21/08/20 04:27 AM
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feminist civil debate Good luck.
/r/MensRights21/08/20 04:25 AM
1

Ahhhh...undone by my own credulity once again.
/r/MGTOW221/08/20 02:55 AM
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Excrement like Vice needs an internet condom for any and all links: https://archive.is/v73FR Also, this is fantastically irrelevant to the subreddit. Idunno, maybe take it to arr/relationships, which is the one they specifically reference?
/r/MGTOW221/08/20 01:51 AM
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There are bots on other subs that specifically instruct users not to do it.
/r/MGTOW221/08/20 01:48 AM
8

Heroin, for all that's wrong with it, is a lot cheaper than women.
/r/MensRights20/08/20 09:16 PM
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Feminists lie. They've been doing it at least since the 1980s and they will never, ever stop doing it. They're not interested in truth; they're interested in power.
/r/MensRights20/08/20 09:13 PM
1

https://archive.fo/BvIgp
/r/MGTOW220/08/20 05:45 PM
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If you could reshape yourself, other people, [...] and society at large [...] would you consider giving up the MGTOW lifestyle This is a dumb question. If I could reshape my own personality however I wanted, on the basis of which criteria would I set about doing it? What, my current ones? But I thought those were the very things I was hypothetically rewriting. So what guides my rewriting of my own personality, then? Priorities I don't have right now??? Why would I ever voluntarily choose to foll…
/r/MGTOW220/08/20 05:31 PM
7

A society in which divorce is the accepted and respected norm will not be a society for long.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen20/08/20 05:17 PM
1

I see now. Your choice of wording for it is a bit non-standard, but so what? Yes, that is the current situation: "mainstream" feminism today just is the man-hating feminism that forty years ago was considered "radical" and "insane."
/r/MensRights20/08/20 05:13 PM
1

Why doesn't the media cover gender discrimination towards males? Have you ever walked the halls in a university's Journalism/Communications Department? The answer is right there.
/r/MensRights20/08/20 05:05 PM
3

Where do you fall on the political spectrum? "Alienated."
/r/MensRights20/08/20 04:58 PM
3

The woman is morally repugnant, but none of this shocks me in the least; it's just too common now to be surprising.
/r/MensRights20/08/20 04:56 PM
1

the name of “feminist” has been tarnished by man haters claiming they are. It has not been tarnished; it was taken over by them decades ago. Apart from CH Sommers and Paglia who are the "good feminists" left fighting against the hatred and demeaning of men in feminism today? What are their names? How long have they been vocally speaking out against hateful extremists like Sally Gearhart et al?
/r/MensRights20/08/20 04:49 PM
1

No, you very clearly demonstrated that: You've been involved in this stuff for approximately as long as I have (give or take). If we're trading appeals to authority and "I was doing this before it was cool" to establish our bona fides (silly idea--MGTOW has never been cool and never will be), I've conscientiously been this way since dumping my last girlfriend in 2001 and even though I completely disagree with you about MGTOWs having uncommitted relationships with women (or even LTRs under some c…
/r/MGTOW220/08/20 04:32 PM
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The further I transition into adulthood, the more my family has been candid with me about obscured truths regarding the women in my life. Welcome to MGTOW. Any veteran MGTOWs that maybe stopped yearning for companionship after reaching a certain age? Yep, in my early thirties. All the Buddhist meditation I do helps, too.
/r/MGTOW219/08/20 11:43 PM
5

Get something you can afford and yet also will be reasonably happy with. Never give up money (or time) you don't have to give up.
/r/MGTOW219/08/20 10:09 PM
13

"Elect more women." No. Easy imperative; easy response.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/20 10:07 PM
2

Contact Mark Perry and/or Kursat Pegkoz. They'll know what to do.
/r/MensRights19/08/20 10:03 PM
2

Somebody come look at this! Somebody come look at this! No. (For those who insist on peaking): https://archive.fo/c5uZd
/r/MensRights19/08/20 09:50 PM
3

"Treat girls with respect." Earn some.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates19/08/20 03:25 PM
3

>ahem< "Oppressor/oppressed is a false binary." That oughta get 'em.
/r/MensRights19/08/20 03:15 PM
2

Dude, your post is asking women to get over themselves. They're not going to do that.
/r/MensRights19/08/20 03:12 PM
1

Ugh, life is too short to read post-modernists. I agree with that. How many randomly chosen male strangers did she kill? Are all your questions complex? (For the untrained: Complex Question fallacy) Or if you prefer me to follow the bait, then: How many random men has any woman ever risked her life to aid or protect? Hey, this was fun! Thanks.
/r/MensRights19/08/20 03:09 PM
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"Evidence is a tool of the patriarchy." I love this shit!
/r/MensRights19/08/20 03:41 AM
1

cheating on my husband made me a better mother Maybe, but it also made you a worse person.
/r/MensRights19/08/20 03:38 AM
1

You don't even know what you're talking about.
/r/MGTOW219/08/20 01:06 AM
1

Then you shouldn't have any trouble linking some of them. Do your own research: I don't work for you. Here's a crumb, though: start with Avital Ronell.
/r/MensRights19/08/20 01:03 AM
1

QAnon Should Be at least listened to. No, it shouldn't. Take it to the Elders of Zion--I've heard a rumor they might be interested.
/r/MGTOW218/08/20 01:55 AM
0

Why does my mouth suddenly taste of vomitus? https://archive.fo/LFXAu
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen17/08/20 10:49 PM
1

You're very welcome. And welcome to the less angry subreddit.
/r/MGTOW217/08/20 10:40 PM
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Yep. https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2/comments/hp9isq/banned_from_mgtow_megathread_post_it_here/ https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW2/comments/i60kzy/reminder_from_the_moderator_team/ Those two pretty well cover the differences.
/r/MGTOW217/08/20 10:38 PM
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How many of you guys are practicing it? For thirty years now. How much does it help you? Best decision I ever made.
/r/MGTOW217/08/20 10:28 PM
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How do I stop focusing so much on them? Well, certainly not by gritting your teeth and reminding yourself really hard not to think about women (because that already is thinking about women). It took me decades to figure this out properly, but here it is: find something else that really is more interesting to you.
/r/MGTOW217/08/20 10:27 PM
1

If women started becoming a serious priority for me again. ^<sup>Scary</sup> ^<sup>thought,</sup> ^<sup>though...</sup>
/r/MGTOW217/08/20 10:25 PM
5

huMAN.
/r/MGTOW217/08/20 10:22 PM
3

The lack of self-awareness is extraordinary, isn't it? I mean, they are just blind.
/r/MensRights17/08/20 05:05 PM
1

Well then stay away from that shit for sure! Always make sure you're thinking with the big head; the little one's a liar.
/r/MensRights17/08/20 04:59 PM
1

it doesnt make any sense.She's right there with you, so it not YOUR way anymore, it's both of you. So I cannot be independent so long as I occasionally interact with someone else who doesn't want me to be? That notion is the one that I say doesn't make any sense. Are you perhaps assuming that so long as a man is in a relationship with a woman it just has to be the case that she has control over him and his decisions? I'll call that a bad assumption.
/r/MGTOW217/08/20 04:56 PM
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MGTOW is also No Relationships: You can't go your own way if you're holding hands. Okay, that's just false. "Monk Mode" != the whole scope of MGTOW. Lots and lots of MGTOW guys have sexual relationships and some even have LTRs; the fact that you don't says nothing about the actual meaning of the term.
/r/MGTOW217/08/20 04:53 PM
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How do you explain those of us who went our own way before it even had a name? Oh, ya--I don't disagree with that at all. There were bachelors by choice long before there was anything so fancy-shmancy as the internet. But the fact the phenomenon was around before it got named does not change the fundamental question of how names get fixed. My point is the way words are defined isn't by the stipulations and repeated ALL CAPS INSISTENCE of some angry I-am-very-smart person(s) on the interwebz; it …
/r/MGTOW217/08/20 04:50 PM
1

Who sees her as a hero? Many, many academic feminists do.
/r/MensRights17/08/20 04:43 PM
2

It is not up to these internet cognoscenti to tell you or any of the rest of us what the definition of MGTOW is nor is it a matter of personal, individual, subjective definition. The term has a history and is defined by its original use. Okay, so how was it originally used when guys got together online and first started employing the term in a consistent, codified way? Well, by just these two things and no others: No marriage No cohabitation That's it. Anyone saying otherwise simply doesn't know…
/r/MGTOW217/08/20 04:51 AM
2

This is irrelevant to men's rights. I have to imagine Reddit already has a good dozen or so 4/20 subreddits up and running; take it to one of them.
/r/MensRights16/08/20 03:22 AM
3

It totally was. You would not believe the craziness we got into.
/r/MGTOW216/08/20 01:41 AM
0

Well, it certainly isn't unnatural anyway.
/r/MGTOW216/08/20 01:40 AM
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Dude, what's the big deal? Not everyone's greatest happiness is achieved the same way. For guys here it requires staying a bachelor, but for LOTS of guys elsewhere it involves finding the right girl and, in whatever sloppy fashion, chasing after "happily ever after." We're not telling you which path to take--that's your decision.
/r/MGTOW216/08/20 01:39 AM
2

https://archive.fo/GgOXT
/r/MensRights15/08/20 10:47 PM
1

I did. No PPD I can see in there.
/r/PussyPassDenied15/08/20 02:41 PM
2

Where's the denial??
/r/PussyPassDenied15/08/20 02:39 PM
3

Yeah, isn't that cute?
/r/MensRights15/08/20 03:54 AM
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Good luck, man. However rough the job may be, though, don't actually quit until the new one is secured: it is fucking cold out there right now, you know?
/r/MGTOW215/08/20 03:53 AM
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Happy cake day, chief. And re. the game: ideologues can only suppress wisdom for so long.
/r/MGTOW215/08/20 03:51 AM
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Please don’t "confuse" feminism with sexism. Why not? Feminists sure as Hell do.
/r/MensRights15/08/20 03:46 AM
5

https://archive.fo/fPDgI What they--schools following that perverse directive from the Obama administration--are doing is morally evil unforgivable, but not in violation of the U.S. Constitution. Let's just be careful about the facts here: a college disciplinary board (of any kind) simply is not a court of law. EDIT: Heheheheheheheh. Author worked for SPLC. Heheheheheheheheheheheheheh...
/r/MensRights15/08/20 03:36 AM
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Why is being a single mom a "pro"? Dude, this is easy. Ever play poker? Ever draw a hand where you only hope is to bluff? There you go.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen15/08/20 01:00 AM
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https://archive.fo/d58uy
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates14/08/20 05:34 PM
1

https://archive.fo/xXYjx
/r/MensRights14/08/20 05:26 PM
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https://archive.fo/g3zyw And of course she says the only bad thing about it is that young women with children aren't out-earning men. Yep, that's the only perceptible "injustice" in there.
/r/MensRights14/08/20 05:16 PM
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You can always know a person by the heroes they choose.
/r/MensRights14/08/20 05:08 PM
1

It's a nation of liars; what difference will a few more make?
/r/MGTOW214/08/20 02:46 AM
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Gee, who'd'a thunk it? I'm sure there's some way we can blame this on the patriarchy, though, right? *snx* Heheheheheh.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates13/08/20 02:44 AM
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The will to exercise is a lot easier to muster in the morning before a long day of work than after one. That's why you see most runners out on the roads and the trails in the morning and not the evening. That's been my experience with it, anyway.
/r/MGTOW212/08/20 09:36 PM
3

"Largely." Mm-hm. Kind of like saying, "Murder is mostly illegal."
/r/MensRights12/08/20 09:27 PM
0

Not in Pakistan, they're not. Check the posted image.
/r/PussyPassDenied12/08/20 03:37 PM
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All politics is transactional.
/r/MensRights12/08/20 03:34 PM
1

What sort of world is it where en masse people find satire more plausible than the things that actually happen?
/r/PussyPassDenied12/08/20 04:56 AM
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Why obsess over material possessions when the earth gives us views like this? Lack of imagination, I think. The expensive material stuff we accumulate makes us more comfortable and pampered and people all across the First World slowly have been taught to prioritize comfort and ease over superior things like truth, goodness, and beauty.
/r/MGTOW212/08/20 01:30 AM
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You dont sound mgtow. I agree. OP's post and general position both seem more fitting for r/mensrights.
/r/MGTOW212/08/20 01:26 AM
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tbh if we stopped reading all publications based on their general bias, there wouldn't be much left! Absolutely right. I still read these sources--I just deny them tracking data by archiving the links first.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates12/08/20 01:18 AM
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https://archive.fo/rRmVC Very sad news indeed; I will pray for his swift and full recovery.
/r/MensRights11/08/20 08:04 PM
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Why is this sub considered a hate group? Because we criticize feminism's sacred cows and because we do not bow to the moral authority of their angry little control freaks. This latter, naturally, makes them very angry.
/r/MensRights11/08/20 07:47 PM
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https://archive.fo/TudEg Really, she's an honest and good-hearted abuser who doesn't deserve to be treated like this. You know, I'm old enough to remember when NYT and WaPo actually used to deliver news. But well, you know--objectivity and intellectual honesty are just sooo passé.
/r/MensRights11/08/20 05:56 PM
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Very probably. In an age so deadly serious and angry, though, satire often passes unnoticed.
/r/MensRights11/08/20 05:49 PM
2

Schopenhauer was a brilliant philosopher; dense, but brilliant. The World as Will and Representation is a very worthy read.
/r/MGTOW211/08/20 05:33 PM
2

Can the victim industry be defeated? Depends: can humans get over themselves?
/r/MensRights11/08/20 05:29 PM
2

you could try reading it before the kneejerk I did read it. My quarrel is not at all with the article, u/beeen_there; it is with and only with the ultra-feminist "news" organization hosting it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/20 05:19 PM
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This is kind of like asking, "Do you prefer truth or happiness?" Truth, every time. If one reads Aristotle (Nichomachean Ethics) closely enough, one learns that real happiness is never possible in the absence of truth, anyway. It's all about what sort of creature a human is and, with that, what a flourishing life looks like. It's a good question to ask, though, and one I wish more people would consider.
/r/MGTOW211/08/20 05:27 AM
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Gotta be satire. No way is this one real. EDIT: I just checked: it's satire.
/r/MensRights11/08/20 05:15 AM
2

https://archive.fo/awnN2 It's only a fragment, but I daren't follow the actual link--too dodgy.
/r/MensRights11/08/20 03:09 AM
5

Sounds to me like a classic set-up: they did this whole thing together in order to set you up, scare you, and probably try to extract money from you. Stop being so readily trusting, especially on the internet.
/r/MensRights11/08/20 03:09 AM
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There are some sites that ALWAYS need an internet condom. Huffing Paint Post is right at the top of that list, along with Buzzfeed (a.k.a. Liars Anonymous) and Vice. It's a matter of hygiene. https://archive.fo/tuiKl
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates11/08/20 02:54 AM
5

Social media will be has been the downfall of our society
/r/PussyPassDenied10/08/20 04:17 AM
11

It never does occur to them that they themselves might be the losers, does it?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen10/08/20 12:54 AM
7

Throughout that entire screed there is not one mention of selection bias (she's complaining about online dating, right?). Stupid is as stupid does.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/08/20 04:06 PM
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Delicious, isn't it?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen09/08/20 03:54 PM
7

These people are just retards. Purely and plainly.
/r/MensRights09/08/20 04:27 AM
2

Also, when I say smile, I mean that women don't like that. Apparently, it's sexual harassment. Oh, I see what you're saying. They just need to get over themselves. Majorly.
/r/MGTOW209/08/20 04:24 AM
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I feel like most guys who identify with this movement are extremely resentful, or even hateful, of gay/LGBT men. I'm not. Not even a little bit. Some of the worse homophobes I've ever met were women. Of course. Ridicule of others is one of their basic skills for status and social control. They care more about comments like "smile" directed towards them, which can be completely ignored, than actual injustices. Because those "smiles" are the new currency of social status. For the record, I believe…
/r/MGTOW208/08/20 05:09 PM
1

The entire concept of "epistemic oppression" derives from a politically motivated epistemic relativism that is straightforwardly self-contradictory. Now, if they ever manage to come up with any actually interesting epistemological insights, perhaps I'll give them a bit more time and attention. As it is, they don't merit any.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates08/08/20 04:57 PM
5

Any poker player needs to learn how to bluff, but if you're going to win with such an empty hand, you have to make it subtle. Just clumsy.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen08/08/20 04:42 PM
3

All systems get gamed. Anyone supposing otherwise fails to understand basic human nature.
/r/MensRights08/08/20 04:25 PM
4

Literally nobody knows where to put their money so the rich are putting it in stocks just because they can't think of anything better. Get the fuck out NOW while you can. Think of it this way: would you call the current economy stable and predictable?
/r/MGTOW208/08/20 12:29 AM
8

The [...] problem isn't with boys - it's with schools. I am continually amazed by ideologues' ability to fail to see this simple, obvious truth.
/r/MensRights07/08/20 03:37 PM
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Sooo...I'm guessing she's in her late 20s, then? Right?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen07/08/20 02:15 AM
7

don’t kink shame! No, no, no--wouldn't dream of it. Besides, when almost the entire world is unrepentantly fucked in the head, what does "normal" mean, anyway?
/r/PussyPassDenied07/08/20 02:10 AM
26

Huh. Looks to me like you successfully got into a fight with a fetish bot. I mean, if that's your thing then go for it, but it all seems kinda silly to me...
/r/PussyPassDenied07/08/20 02:06 AM
8

You've spent a lot of time and energy asking yourself what women want--that's clear. Have you spent as much asking yourself what you want? That's the worthier question.
/r/MGTOW206/08/20 10:17 PM
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A common refrain when discussing dating is that women get more dates, but men get more quality dates. Perhaps some women there are overestimating their quality.
/r/MensRights06/08/20 06:57 PM
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raped Such a hard word for them to use anytime the perp is female, isn't it? Cleaned link: https://archive.fo/YwdJB
/r/PussyPassDenied06/08/20 03:12 PM
2

https://archive.fo/qVfqF
/r/PussyPassDenied06/08/20 03:08 PM
2

https://archive.fo/cow1a
/r/MensRights05/08/20 08:38 PM
11

"We are here to police your masculinity. All truth is feminist truth; your purpose is to comply." Look into who owns and funds the site and you'll see what's happening.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates04/08/20 04:42 PM
9

All of these feminists would celebrate if all men died or if men are in pain Well, sure--they've worked hard for it.
/r/MensRights03/08/20 06:04 PM
3

So what? Let them call me anything they want and I'll do likewise.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/20 05:56 PM
8

If we should demand something, we should demand reasonable freedom, not 'equal' tyranny. He will correct me on this, of course, but I think u/OkLetterhead9's larger point here is that holding hypocritical ideologues to their own perverse standards is one of the most effective ways of getting those standards to change. No?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates03/08/20 05:54 PM
2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YROmPNUHmpY
/r/MensRights03/08/20 03:13 AM
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Comedy works best when it punches up. What a sober, deadly serious way of attempting to define comedy. Perhaps she should write an academic treatise on it (profusely footnoted, of course). She is her own satire.
/r/MensRights02/08/20 07:56 PM
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Statistics are an ideologue's favorite way of lying while seeming authoritative. Before any numbers at all come into the picture, ask yourself: Exactly how are they defining each term in "sexual abuse?" Exactly how are they defining each term in "sexual assault?" I've seen activists stupid enough to include (I am not making this up) "unwanted staring." So you take a one-hour ride in the NY subway or on the L in Chicago; how many such "assaults" is any human being up to just from that alone? It's…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates02/08/20 12:45 AM
6

Now, write me a poem. Earn one.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/08/20 06:22 PM
10

Very unlikely. I mean, anyone can sue anyone or anything, but your odds of success would be very low. You live in an age in which only one form of sexism is actually frowned on.
/r/MensRights01/08/20 05:16 AM
3

Sue.
/r/MensRights01/08/20 04:31 AM
24

These women are the telemarketers of human sexuality.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen01/08/20 03:45 AM
26

how do you feel about being called "husband material"? Hunted. It should make you feel hunted. Run.
/r/MGTOW231/07/20 03:50 PM
8

It isn't.
/r/PussyPassDenied31/07/20 03:46 PM
5

Where are they? Where are all the good men to deal with this level of crazy? Maybe she should ask her psychic.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen31/07/20 02:01 AM
2

Yeah, it's been a popular one this year. Especially because of how hard she goes down, I think.
/r/PussyPassDenied31/07/20 01:58 AM
9

Oil.
/r/MGTOW230/07/20 04:52 PM
7

https://old.reddit.com/r/mensrightslinks/
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates30/07/20 04:51 PM
2

https://archive.fo/OZAW6
/r/MensRights30/07/20 04:50 PM
2

Mutual alienation is the only thing social media ever really offers.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen30/07/20 11:29 AM
1

That's irrelevant. The sub explicitly prohibits rage posts. If a sub were to put in its rules "This sub is about your golf game only; no politics whatsoever," and people kept trying to post about how golf makes them think of politics, their posts would rightly get whacked. "No rage posts" means no rage posts.
/r/MGTOW230/07/20 11:23 AM
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Her purpose is to do everything in her power to convince you you need her. But you don't.
/r/MGTOW230/07/20 01:47 AM
-1

"If you listen to fools, The mob rulesss."
/r/MensRights30/07/20 12:36 AM
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Why would I care about the future of a society that does not care about me?
/r/MGTOW229/07/20 11:44 PM
8

This is not the forum for rage posts. The original r/MGTOW is.
/r/MGTOW229/07/20 11:43 PM
21

We're living in a country where nobody trusts anybody anymore and she's wondering why it's so hard to trust??? This is.......not complicated.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/07/20 11:38 PM
1

https://archive.fo/Gwpcl Rebuttal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YROmPNUHmpY
/r/MensRights29/07/20 11:21 PM
1

What would you do if this sub were deleted tomorrow? Laugh.
/r/MGTOW229/07/20 08:14 PM
17

Twenty bucks says it's a simple troll post.
/r/MensRights29/07/20 08:08 PM
1

It's one form of traditional Indian Buddhist meditation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vipassan%C4%81
/r/MGTOW229/07/20 05:21 PM
2

how did you master your emotions? Buddhist meditation. Vipassana especially.
/r/MGTOW229/07/20 03:52 PM
3

https://archive.fo/oWQ16
/r/MensRights29/07/20 03:35 PM
6

the men on my level don't seem interested or are hard to come across Almost certainly, then, you're not on the level you think you are.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen29/07/20 02:16 AM
19

The tendency to become what you fight is well-known and long-studied. The real problem is nobody bothers to read the fucking books anymore.
/r/PussyPassDenied29/07/20 02:05 AM
12

It isn't because of some "toxic" shitty and immoral women; it's because women and marriage no longer survive the cost/benefit analysis. I've never understood why this is so hard for some people to grasp.
/r/MGTOW229/07/20 02:00 AM
2

Okay, here's a few, but please understand I have dozens and dozens and dozens of these sorts of files. I've been studying this stuff since the late 80s: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1854883/ https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/full/10.2105/AJPH.2005.079020 https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/relationships/women-more-aggressive-and-controlling-than-men-study-finds/news-story/77d320f47a990b8db9ddea5fa6e81a47 [Opinion, but one I share] http://quillette.com/2017/10/25/rethinking-gend…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates29/07/20 12:40 AM
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The more noise you make, the higher the odds of something eventually happening. But it is a matter of odds and at the moment I'd say odds are low.
/r/MensRights29/07/20 12:35 AM
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https://archive.fo/IP15q What a spectacular imbecile. Consult only those sources sure to exonerate women of any and all responsibility. "I know--let's find a sociologist!" Where n=3 it's perfectly fine to extrapolate to half the human population. I mean, she talked to three whole women about their infidelity and got their own reports on why they did it. What could be wrong with that??? Suppose I were to go to a prison and ask three men convicted of violent assault why they did it. Do you imagine…
/r/MensRights28/07/20 11:04 PM
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No quarrel there.
/r/MensRights28/07/20 10:50 PM
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Nice work, man. It really helps to have these sources all together and organized in one place, and I especially applaud making that place somewhere the Thought Police of big tech can't censor.
/r/MensRights28/07/20 05:13 PM
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If we want to protect children, the most important thing we can do is protect them from single mothers, whose frequency of child abuse and neglect easily surpasses men's. Somehow I don't think that's the kind of "protection from abuse" they have in mind, though, is it?
/r/MensRights28/07/20 05:07 PM
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Yes please. Will do. It'll take me a few days because I have folders and folders of stuff on this very question, but I'll put them up here for you once I dig them up. The kind of violence that would make someone go to jail Okay, so physical violence only, then? But in that case let us stipulate that it needn't lead to severe injury, right? After all, I could try to punch someone's teeth in and just not have the strength and/or training to do it. Yes?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/20 03:47 PM
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http://www.freezepage.com/1595950806UUQQCMQJZD The internet is a treasure trove of human stupidity.
/r/MensRights28/07/20 03:41 PM
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It is the job of any lawyer to defend their client, not to defend the truth. In that context I see nothing surprising in Wass' claims.
/r/MensRights28/07/20 03:39 PM
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I think we can see in this report that child abuse is a non-gendered issue Well, as u/red_philosopher pointed out, read pages 46 and 60. The really strong asymmetry in this report is between mothers versus fathers, not women versus men, but that doesn't mean it isn't gendered. Also, there's good evidence child abuse is gendered (though this report does little to prove it). In AU and UK it's something like 70% of all child abuse coming from women, not men (and this still leaves out of the equatio…
/r/MensRights28/07/20 03:31 PM
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Oh, I fully agree with that. My only point was that if the latter statement (the analogical one I gave) is rooted more in bias than in honesty, then so is the former.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/20 03:23 PM
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As far as I know, there aren’t any biological differences between races when it comes to violent behavior. Read Charles Murray's The Bell Curve, then. There's actually good evidence of such a difference, but as Egalitarianwhistle pointed out, that difference in no way undercuts the claim of systemic racism in the U. S. justice system. Both can be true. This is especially the case when we consider the extent to which disparate treatment leads to a tendency toward criminality and violence, which t…
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/20 03:21 PM
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Irrelevant. Insofar as some idea or person is Christian it is not or they are not postmodern and vice versa. If we suppose for the moment that society is postmodern^<sup>1</sup> , that still says nothing about whether some idea, set of ideas, or person is in keeping with it. Also, assuming your claim that Christ lost is true, then it's very unlikely Western culture is still the domain of Christianity. On your hypothesis, at least, it'd be better to say it was, but not that it is. I find your cla…
/r/MGTOW228/07/20 03:07 PM
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If it's Christian one thing it will never be is postmodern (and vice versa).
/r/MGTOW228/07/20 04:50 AM
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huMAN. He's calm, he's collected, he thinks things through, he doesn't get emotional about his subject matter, and he gives really thoughtful, patient analyses.
/r/MGTOW228/07/20 04:48 AM
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Ok, I know I’ll get downvoted, but the first impression I get is: if there are more men in jail because more men commit crime, then how is it oppression? I'm sorry, but you totally opened yourself up to this one: "If there are more men blacks in jail because more men blacks commit crime, then how is it oppression?" Say that to yourself in you head privately five times and see if you think the analogy fits. I do.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates28/07/20 04:40 AM
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That's it! Dude, thank you. Yeah, now it makes a whole lot more sense, except the proper assertion for OP to make in this case is not "women are twice as likely as men to abuse children," but "mothers are twice as likely as fathers to abuse children." It is very interesting, too, that mothers living with non-fathers are vastly more likely to commit abuse than fathers with non-mothers. It seems there's a dark story to be told there.
/r/MensRights28/07/20 04:31 AM
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"...when first we practice to deceive."
/r/MensRights28/07/20 12:33 AM
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That's been exactly my thinking on this, too, except it does serve to show that women are likely no less abusive toward children than men are, but the higher percentage is easily explainable by higher frequency and intensity of interaction. As an anology for anyone who doesn't yet see u/alclarkey's point: women in the U.S. hold two thirds of all student loan debt. "Sexism! Inequality! Injustice!" shriek all the hopelessly innumerate feminists. Bullshit. Two thirds of all undergrad and grad stude…
/r/MensRights28/07/20 12:22 AM
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Where does it say 2:1? I don't think it does. What is interesting about it is its deviation from the sort of numbers seen in UK and AU, where the female percent of abusers climbs over 70. But here it's just a ten point spread. Curious...
/r/MensRights27/07/20 09:56 PM
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I'm not seeing any evidence to support your assertion in that document. Table 5-3 in the pdf (p. 71) clearly states that 54.1% of perpetrators are female while 44.8% are male. That ain't no 2-to-1 ratio. Is there a different table in there that I should be looking at, perhaps? I haven't finished the appendices, so is there something in there??
/r/MensRights27/07/20 09:25 PM
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https://archive.fo/mtytr Huh. So I guess this time necessity is the mother of progress? Hey, take it where you find it, right?
/r/MensRights27/07/20 08:32 PM
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Uh, yeah, he made the only right choice there was.
/r/MensRights27/07/20 02:08 PM
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Dude, I knew you'd have the link. Thank you indeed.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/20 02:00 PM
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Where exactly is the PPD in this? I don't see one.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/07/20 12:09 AM
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Yeah, that's what I remembered reading, but I can't recall where I saw it.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates27/07/20 12:05 AM
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Gotta agree. He has no idea how to fight.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/07/20 12:04 AM
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Well, he definitely "squared the fuck up," so she can't accuse him of not listening to her, right? Pretty good marital therapy if you ask me.
/r/PussyPassDenied27/07/20 12:01 AM
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She fought the law and the law won. I guess her race is run. What a heartening video: real justice with a real PPD swiftly dealt to someone who richly earned it.
/r/PussyPassDenied26/07/20 11:56 PM
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My memory might be failing here, but weren't there also studies a few years back that showed the majority of online bullying perpetrators against females are themselves female? No? Am I mis-remembering this one?
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/20 11:53 PM
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I don't think I ever "went MGTOW" per se; over the years I just kept finding women increasingly unnecessary. By the time I hit my thirties I just didn't see any point in them anymore.
/r/MGTOW226/07/20 11:44 PM
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Squeaky wheels, wot wot.
/r/MensRights26/07/20 11:35 PM
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No, I certainly wouldn't say that. My harshest criticism of Smith is that she relies too much on anecdotal data for some pretty big, population-wide assertions she makes.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/20 11:33 PM
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They will, but those grades won't affect boys' futures nearly so much anymore.
/r/MensRights26/07/20 05:11 PM
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Archived link: http://www.freezepage.com/1595782372DVRMAXYZPX (It fought me a bit, but I got it). So here's the tactic: Invent some nasty-sounding category with which to demean and try to manipulate men without it explicitly looking like that's what you're doing. Ad hoc fit any criticisms of you, your tenderly beloved beliefs, or your compatriots into that category. ("This just proves you're in denial!") Prescribe a "cure" that requires rigid and unblinking ideological compliance. Only docile an…
/r/MensRights26/07/20 05:08 PM
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Protective wrapper: https://archive.fo/uUOka Yeah, from the description it looks like the predicted grades will be included but will lose their dominant status in the equation. But this is reading between the lines; Ofqual didn't give enough details on the process for us to be sure what's happening.
/r/MensRights26/07/20 04:43 PM
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I'm not sure even STEM has a chance. It doesn't. The problem for so-called "STEM" (it's a bogus category when you drill down and check the details) isn't in the instructors, generally; it's in the administrators. College and university administrations are fiercely ideologically Left now, especially the Student Life weenies and the H. R. weenies; they control far too much of what the campus ends up looking like and acting like, so until their house of cards comes down, I'd say that's that. On the…
/r/MensRights26/07/20 04:31 PM
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As I look back, I am wondering if the only choice is to abandon the public and run to the private for regrouping. [...] Am I on the right path? Yes. It's deeply unfortunate, but yes. All of public ed and the great majority of higher ed are simply dead to the concept of intellectual honesty now. I say this, mind you, as a long-time university professor. The only part of university life I look forward to anymore is retirement benefits; everything else can burn in Hell.
/r/MensRights26/07/20 02:01 AM
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Prolly just another troll post. Lots of variations on this float around out there.
/r/MensRights26/07/20 01:57 AM
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Because we do not bow down and will not be shamed into silence or ideological compliance. Control freaks fucking hate that.
/r/MensRights26/07/20 01:56 AM
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She's right.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/20 01:54 AM
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Does biology consult our opinions about whether or not our stomachs should gurgle when we haven't eaten in a while? Or whether yawning is appropriate to sleep deprivation or flinching to a sudden injury? So then why would it listen to our opinions about sex and mating? It feels the way it feels because that's how biology ensures maximum propagation of homo sapiens. Whether you listen to that feeling or not is up to you.
/r/MGTOW226/07/20 01:51 AM
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I've read it and unfortunately cannot recommend it. It was a pretty superficial and often unrescuably anecdotal study in the end. C. H. Sommers' War Against Boys and Who Stole Feminism are both far, far better. I regret saying this because Smith is an entirely sympathetic person, but her book was nowhere near ready for print.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates26/07/20 01:44 AM
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Thomas Sowell's Basic Economics is an absolute classic. If he cannot change your mind about how money works, you have no mind to change.
/r/MGTOW225/07/20 11:55 PM
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I've noticed this sub started on more moderate path than the original MGTOW but I see us reverting back to complaining about women. That's from refugees from incel hangouts and the original MGTOW sub upon its quarantine. Mods here try to clean the place up and delete their posts, but as you've already seen, bitterness is a disease for which few patients actually want a cure. Just keep reporting posts that break sub rules and eventually the whiners will figure out they can't set up shop here.
/r/MGTOW225/07/20 05:52 PM
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Name one thing you actually have to offer.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen25/07/20 04:57 PM
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https://archive.fo/FZxZm C H sommers did a piece on this in Time magazine six years ago ("6 Feminist Myths That Will Not Die"): https://archive.fo/sYHvd By now any feminist who continues to push the "wage gap" narrative is simply a liar.
/r/MensRights25/07/20 04:42 PM
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I haven't even met you and I already owe you a beer. Damn.
/r/MGTOW225/07/20 03:14 AM
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What about Schick? Or Norelco? Does P&G own those, too? It's not an issue for me because I don't shave, but if I did those are the ones I'd look into.
/r/MensRights25/07/20 03:11 AM
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The important thing about this is the precedent it sets.
/r/MensRights24/07/20 11:18 PM
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Why in the world is she still your girlfriend? And don't answer with any crap about love: there are thousands upon thousands of girls out there that you just as easily could've ended up loving just as much. Find one that reciprocates.
/r/MensRights24/07/20 11:15 PM
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Dude, well done. Never turn back.
/r/MGTOW224/07/20 03:13 PM
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3 years ago. I now own and operate a small cabinet shop. I am clean 14 months and have custody of my 14yo son. MGTOW literally saved my life.
/r/MGTOW224/07/20 03:12 PM
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If words like dick and prick and asshole etc for men are fine, why is it sexist to use the word bitch? It isn't. Never let these moralizing troglodytes police your speech.
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates24/07/20 03:09 PM
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Why are we making feminism the enemy? Because feminism made men the enemy.
/r/MensRights24/07/20 03:06 PM
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You mean with lies and slander? I can do that. "I resent that! Slander is spoken; in print it's libel." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XscaGDxuQqE
/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates23/07/20 02:09 AM
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So what? The sub has no rule against women posting here, though naturally it won't be the sort of sub most of them will want to frequent. She can post here if she wants to; but posts have to adhere to sub rules.
/r/MGTOW222/07/20 10:29 PM
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Yeah, it's bizarre to see parody and real life converge like this.
/r/MensRights22/07/20 10:23 PM
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Wait. Am I even allowed to be here? Sure, why not?
/r/MGTOW222/07/20 10:19 PM
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It's not about the money; it's about taking ownership over my own life and choosing my own happiness. But hey--you do you, Catie. Not my problem.
/r/MGTOW222/07/20 10:17 PM
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https://archive.is/rVxiq This thing is HILARIOUS. The interviewed campus "intellectuals" now think that: Men pointing out the Wage Gap Myth is a myth (a lie, really) is "toxic masculinity." Men thinking women can be crazy is "toxic masculinity" (nope--not kidding). Men judging women's physical attractiveness is "toxic masculinity" (you had to know that one was coming). Pointing out that women lie (which is true: statistically, women lie much more often than men do) is--you guessed it--"toxic mas…
/r/MensRights22/07/20 03:30 PM
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Okay, here we go: https://www.familylawexpress.com.au/family-law-news/children/childabuse/women-more-violent-and-controlling-than-men-various-studies-find/2366/ https://archive.fo/lsDgG (Even Huffington Post had to admit it...) https://archive.is/Dyn7n https://archive.fo/xf3dt Cheers!
/r/MensRights22/07/20 03:18 PM
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Right! Because even though it is rape, they won't charge her with it simply because the perp is a woman and the victims are boys. Welcome to America.
/r/PussyPassDenied22/07/20 02:54 AM
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So just more fried ice, then, right?
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/07/20 02:52 AM
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"I guess biology is real?" No--no, it isn't. Just drink more and those feelings will go away. You're fine. Really. To whichever man I just saved from the clutches of this woman: you're welcome and Godspeed.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/07/20 02:49 AM
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GOOD She does seem to stay in shape. BAD Karen haircut. Karen earrings. Ovaries dried up fifteen years ago. She also seems to think staying in shape is some kind of fucking achievement, which it is not. VERDICT Too little coming to market way too late.
/r/WhereAreAllTheGoodMen22/07/20 02:45 AM
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Somewhere on my hard drive in one of about thirty folders I keep on this stuff, yeah. Gimme a couple of days to dig it up and I'll post it for you.
/r/MensRights22/07/20 02:37 AM
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If it's a minor it's automatically legally rape because legally they cannot consent.
/r/PussyPassDenied22/07/20 02:34 AM
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This is so perfectly and utterly NOT PPD. There was no PP attempted whatsoever.
/r/PussyPassDenied22/07/20 02:31 AM
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Well, that's Australia for ya, ain't it? Those poor people--d'you know decades ago they actually used to have fun with their lives?? But I guess that's no longer politically permissible.
/r/MensRights22/07/20 02:24 AM
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"Stupid is as stupid does." Point of Clarification: statistically, women are not as abusive as men; women are more abusive than men. So long as we include "emotional abuse" under the category of abuse, the evidence on this is absolutely unequivocal. Even the Daily Mail a few years back ran an article noting that women are nearly twice as manipulative as men in relationships, and among young men and women, women are significantly more physically abusive, too. It's no contest.
/r/MensRights21/07/20 09:46 PM
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Check out arr/FIRE (Financial Independence/Retiring Early). It's a good sub.
/r/MGTOW221/07/20 04:51 PM
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He was one of the all-time greats. His ex-wives are all long-since forgotten, but he will never be.
/r/MGTOW221/07/20 04:44 PM
3

Yes, it has.
/r/PussyPassDenied21/07/20 04:41 PM
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Those are some serious mental gymnastics she's engaged in right there.
/r/MensRights21/07/20 04:33 PM
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Cut her a break; she's apparently defending the same brand of feminism Christina Hoff Sommers does, and that's a feminism I easily can get along with and work with shoulder-to-shoulder much of the time. I think most of us here would have an easy time working with such feminists.
/r/MensRights21/07/20 04:27 PM
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Just wanted to say that somewhere where I wouldn’t be downvoted and attacked. Heheheheheheheheheh. Well, ye came to the right place (ironic, innit?).
/r/MensRights21/07/20 04:11 AM
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The ones I allow into my life agree with it.
/r/MensRights21/07/20 04:06 AM
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"From the get-go" is a troubled term when digging into the history of philosophies, social and/or political movements, and major world changes. You almost certainly will not find a single moment of inception for feminism, especially given how frought the exact definition of "feminism" is. It's surprisingly hard to pinpoint a specific earliest moment or even period for things like this. Even given one's chosen definition of "feminism" and criteria for "first," it's debatable as to whether or not …
/r/MensRights21/07/20 01:57 AM
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