Equality only when it suits them

Imnotmrabut · 2016-02-26T09:47:40+00:00

I love it! The Minister has been getting hate mail..... and I'm sure it aint the boys doing it! P¬)

Wait long enough and the truth will out!

bayofwars · 2016-02-26T08:43:33+00:00

And also women's life expectancy is higher, but it's still not fair it seems.

thimblesful · 2016-02-26T09:21:41+00:00

Women in their 50s, who benefited little from feminism, are being told they must pay the price of equality

Sort of like how men of all ages are to "pay the price of equality" as well. But that goes without saying. Some people are to give give give and others are to "benefit". I wonder who those respective groups of people should be?

2016-02-26T13:12:22+00:00

The Barbaras and Lindas come from a generation who grew up being told that asking for equal pay was selfish, because it might cost husbands and fathers their jobs; who could still quite easily be sacked for getting pregnant. They earned and saved less than men but were raised with the assumption that if you looked after your family, you’d be looked after in return.

Feminists always like to pretend that women were kept illiterate and chained to the ironing board until, oh, at least 2008. To get an idea of what expectations and values current British 60 year olds were brought up with, you can learn a lot from Michael Apted's "Up" series, which started in 1963 by interviewing a group of seven year olds, and came back every seven years to see what the interview subjects were doing. In "14 Up" in 1970 they were in school taking in 1960s progressive values. In "21 Up" in 1977 they had come to adulthood during a peak of second wave feminism.

The series began with a political agenda. Taking the Jesuit maxim “Give me a boy until he is seven, and I will give you the man,” it suggested that the prospects of the participants were determined by the class into which they were born. To a certain extent, this turned out to be true, particularly for those participants belonging to the social and educational élite. John, the prep-school boy, became a barrister, while his classmate Andrew became a solicitor. (The third child from their privileged group, Charles, dropped out of the series after appearing as a restive malcontent on “21 Up.” Charles eventually became a documentary filmmaker, and I can’t be the only viewer to fantasize about the film he could make, if he wanted to, about participating in Apted’s experiment.)

Less predictable were the fates of the working-class and middle-class characters. Lynn, who thought she’d work at Woolworths, established a career as a children’s librarian, while her classmate Sue became a university administrator, despite never having been near a university—or even attending grammar school. After the first two episodes, no viewer could have anticipated that Neil, the charismatic would-be astronaut, would develop chronic mental-health problems by twenty-one, or that, by twenty-eight, he would be homeless. Nor could viewers have predicted the dignified and moving way in which he has rebuilt his life in the decades since. Neil’s illness—a gift to Apted, if a trial to Neil—shows the limitations of the original show’s simplistic sociopolitical premise, and it underscores the series’ actual accomplishment: revealing the gradual development of ordinary lives in all their extraordinary complexity. As my husband put it, after we left the theatre the other night, the series began like Zola, but, half a century in, it touches Proust.

FFXIV_Machinist · 2016-02-26T14:21:33+00:00

isnt the male age of retirement on average 65?

Title	Equality only when it suits them
Author	bayofwars
Upvotes	14
Comments	5
Date	February 26, 2016 8:41 AM UTC (10 years ago)
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