How would you go about explaining things like the vote when most women were against the vote. How would you go about explaining that in the UK and Canada once women got the vote, there were still a good amount t of men who didn’t have it?

different-opinion_ · 2020-02-21T23:55:52+00:00

I think we shouldn't focus on the past. Now everyone has right to vote. And everyone's vote has same value.

antifeminist3 · 2020-02-22T18:00:09+00:00

"How would you go about explaining things like the vote when most women were against the vote.

I cannot find the reference, but there was a survey in the USA before women got the vote. 75% of the women surveyed were against women getting the vote. This was likely because those women assumed that women would be treated the same as men: be subject to the draft.

So they voted against because they thought women had the better end of the deal.

Remember Phyllis Shafly voted against the equality act, and she specifically stated the draft as one of the reasons. She didn't want women to be treated equally, but was concerned about losing the 'privileges' of women.

rysic · 2020-02-22T01:14:22+00:00

Huh? Elaborate on this, as a Men's Right supporter myself (stating that just not to get downvoted lol) I didn't know about this, and would like to know more.

iainmf · 2020-02-22T02:44:25+00:00

Show a list of voting milestones. It's pretty clear that women's suffrage was part of a trend to expand voting rights to more and more people. For example here is the timeline for New Zealand:

1852	Prisoners in prison for "any treason, felony, or infamous offence" can’t vote
1853	National election for males (wealthy landowners, or wealthy renters)
1860	Voting extended to miners
1867	Maori seats enabled Maori voting without property requirements
1879	Property requirement removed so all male residents could vote: prisoners have to wait until one year after their release’
1893	Women can vote
1905	Remove 12 month post-imprisonment disqualification period and anyone sentenced to death or a year or more was ineligible to vote
1908	Allows voting of seamen who lived on ships
1918	Conscientious objectors from WWI can’t vote for 10 years
1927	Conscientious objectors voting rights restored early
1956	Overseas civilians can vote. All prisoners can’t vote
1975	Permanent residents can vote if not citizens. Prisoners can vote
1977	Prisoners can’t vote
1993	Prisoners can vote unless sentenced to life, preventive detention or a sentence longer than three years from voting
2010	Prisoners can’t vote

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