Jack Donovan

Eryemil · 2012-11-24T23:24:52+00:00

This is what I had to say last time his name came up here:

This is the not first time I hear of this Jack Donovan, in fact it's probably the fifth but what I have heard hasn't really compelled me to read further except maybe to satisfy a morbid curiosity.

Ignoring the more personal and petty criticisms I have of the author, the one thing I cannot forgive him is this:

"The new Way of Women depends on prosperity, security, and globalism.

Any return of honor and The Way of Men and the eventual restoration of balance and harmony between the sexes will require the weakening of all three."

I am a humanist and transhumanist first and foremost. Regardless of whatever criticisms people such as Donovan might have, the numbers do not lie: we live in the most peaceful, most prosperous, least suffering age humanity has ever seen.

By his own words, his masculine utopia can only exist where there is a dearth of the qualities and ideas that have allowed us to get to where we are now. Does he really think that people are going to agree to going back to an age of lowered life expectancy, ignorance and deprivation? Of course not, which is why so many regressionists such as him so fervently believe that our world is on the brink of collapse; without this imminent catastrophe our path is set and we'll be looking forward, not backwards.

Much more importantly, to me, his perfect world means stagnation and death. In as little as a billion years our sun will expand and living on Earth will become very uncomfortable and ultimately impossible. If we want our decedents to endure long enough to actually witness this event, let along survive it, we will need more security, more prosperity and more globalism, not less—in short, we'll need more stability.

I'd rather our race dies, if it must, while reaching ever higher towards the stars and beyond than in a long, protracted squalor.

Manzboobz · 2012-11-24T11:05:22+00:00

I like him as a writer, he and his followers are very social constructionist in their attitude to masculinity though - that its something must be created and maintained through social controls.

Title	Jack Donovan
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Upvotes	1
Comments	4
Date	November 24, 2012 9:54 AM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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