Legislating Chivalry

ProbablyNotToday · 2010-02-14T02:25:36+00:00

I can see one immediate problem with this law: people will claim they didn’t see anything to avoid being charged, and then all of the sudden detectives won’t have ANY witnesses.

I think that's the key part. Why the fuck would anyone want to have their record tarnished, have trouble getting a job for the rest of their lives and face up to 6 months in jail? Rape? What rape? I didn't see no rape.

Also what happens if this law is taken one step further and you could be charged for not interfering with the crime? I mean I'll jump in and fight 5 guys trying to fuck with my girlfriend, but I won't do it for some random woman. What if now all of a sudden it becomes a crime for me not to interfere? I wouldn't even call the cops, I'll just walk away like nothing ever happened and I'm sure plenty of people would do the same when your options are (Get the shit kicked out of you, go to jail, never get a decent job and be harassed by the police) or (just walk away and go about your business). You don't have to be a fucking rocket scientist to weight your options and pick the best one.

Offensive_Brute · 2010-02-13T18:43:47+00:00

Personally, I no longer have any chivalry left in me. I was such a hopeless romantic as a boy, but emotionally, its all been beat out of me. Still though I will not cease to show common courtesy and lend a helping hand to any person in need. Case in point, I was entering the cable office to pay my bill, and behind me was a woman with a baby, juggling her purse and the baby and the babys bag. Holding the door open for her was not chivalry, it was decency, had she been a man carrying a box, I'd have held the door for him all the same. Watching a person of any gender being victimized and not doing anything at all is indicative of something much more disturbing in our society than a simple lack of chivalry. Its a frightening lack of compassion for your fellow human being. I'm a raging asshole, and rather misanthropic but damn man, to watch some one be brutalized and do nothing? I'd be inclined to give the benefit of the doubt if there was an issue of liability involved, but I think the examples used go way beyond a lack of chivalry.

But still the piece expresses a sentiment I share, chivalry is dead or dying, feminism is largely to blame, but I don't feel good about that. Part of me still wants to treat a woman like a woman, but the other part of me doesn't even like to associate with women. My saving grace is that i live in a socially conservative land where christian morals and family values keep hardcore feminism at bay. Women here still recognize that being a dutiful wife and mother is the highest purpose a woman will ever serve, not because they can't do anything else but rather because complying with familial obligations is the highest purpose any human will ever serve.

2010-02-15T00:11:28+00:00

I was taught by my father to believe that men should serve and protect, but life has taught me a different lesson: men should serve themselves first, and protect themselves first. I'm done being a white knight. I'm a black knight. I'll draw my sword to defend the people who matter to me, but if you're not somebody who matters to me, I'm just going to turn my back, walk away, and tell the police that I didn't see or hear a damned thing.

Offensive_Brute · 2010-02-13T22:58:33+00:00

So it's "chivalry" to step in and do something when someone is being brutally gang-raped? Wow. And here I thought it was just being a decent fucking human being.

Chivalry for chivalry's sake is empty. Who needs it? Move on.

Title	Legislating Chivalry
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Upvotes	10
Comments	7
Date	February 13, 2010 2:09 AM UTC (16 years ago)
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