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Logically It Makes Sense

KrustyWantsOut

May 15, 2016
139 upvotes
/r/MensRights
https://sli.mg/q1LL2w
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Title Logically It Makes Sense
Author

KrustyWantsOut

Upvotes 139
Comments 11
Date May 15, 2016 8:10 PM UTC
(10 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/4jhqt2/logically_it_makes_sense/
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/logically-it-makes-sense.949508
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[–]SporkTornado 15 points16 points17 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Except that if you include prison rape, then way more men than women have been raped. Since "made to penetrate" is not classified as rape in most statistics. The actual number of male rape victims is vastly under reported.

[–]jeff_the_nurse 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

And she actually believes that, too...ugh.

[–]mikesteane 5 points6 points7 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Except in the US where rapes of males probably exceeds rape of females.

And some other countries like Afghanistan too.

[–]LukeR365 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I fucking hate this bitch. America please, on behalf of the rest of the world.. Wake the fuck up and elect someone half way decent for once!!

[–]baskandpurr 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Trump is an awful choice in so many ways and I'd still prefer him to Clinton. At least Trump is what he claims to be, Clinton has been lying about things for so long that I don't think she would know how to be honest even if she understood the concept of truth.

[–]GeometryPrime 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

At this point it is statistically a better idea to assume that the opposite of what she says is true.

[–]HumblePig 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

A bit off topic, but men as secondary victims of their partners', friends', or childrens' rapes are often blamed for having issues with it themselves. It's not only that they're denied as victims when they're the primary victims, but that they're denied the right to have empathy for the people closest to them who are crime victims. People will stick up for Hillary's quote saying "What she really means is..." and go into the way the secondary victims do deserve understanding. But nobody will grant that same understanding to men.

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[–]girlwriteswhat 18 points19 points20 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Criticizing someone who claims that men are not the primary victims even of their own violent deaths in war is just taking a swipe at women?

The single most important issue concerning men's rights issues, including the rape of men, is the gender empathy gap. Clinton's quote is demonstrative of that--yes, a man died a horrible death in war, but it is his wife who is left behind to care for the children alone who is the ultimate victim of his death, and the person most deserving of society's compassion.

If someone said, "men have always been the primary victims of childbed deaths. They lose their wives, their mothers, their daughters to the complications and dangers of childbirth. They are often left with the responsibility of raising the children alone," people would rightly be WTFing all over the place.

It is one thing to have sympathy for people who've lost their loved ones and are left struggling to cope with their deaths, but it's quite another to call a person's survivors the "primary" victims of their deaths.

While many people have called Clinton on these statements, it didn't mean political death for her, either.

[–]Greg_W_Allan 4 points5 points6 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've spent nearly twenty years working to help male survivors and ten in board roles representing victims in rape crisis services. You have no idea what people do in the real world.

Now slither off back to your hole.

[–]Tammylan 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I like the way that you put "men's rights movement" in quotes.

"Feminism" doesn't care about supporting female rape survivors at all. It just likes to trot out the bullshit 1 in 5/4/3/2 rape statistic when it's convenient to taking a swipe at men or MRAs.

See how easily that can be turned around?

And yeah, it's pretty fucked up and offensive when from when you were a small child you were told that your entire gender is solely responsible for all of the evils in this world.

#KillAllMen #AllPIVSexIsRape #MasculinitySoFragile #I'mJustAGirl #FluttersEyelashes #EmbracingVictimhood

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