NCADV - Fact Sheet - Is This True?

HateMyTruth · 2011-07-18T19:35:11+00:00

60% of statistics are made up 95% of the time..

2011-07-18T19:31:03+00:00

Not sure if serious?

Il128 · 2011-07-18T20:03:26+00:00

I am serious. There are citations for the fact sheet and I'm seriously bothered by this. I believed DV was 50/50, so on and so forth as we have put forth as MRAs. This fact sheet blows all my beliefs out of the water.

A a victim of woman on man DV, I am in a very, very, small 15% minority according to this fact sheet. Hell, according to that fact sheet, men are fucking monsters and 25% of all women are abused!

Kill_The_Rich · 2011-07-18T20:12:52+00:00

Let's go source by source.

Source 1: Tjaden, Patricia & Thoennes, Nancy. National Institute of Justice and the Centers of Disease Control and Prevention, “Extent, Nature and Consequences of Intimate Partner Violence: Findings from the National Violence Against Women Survey,” (2000).

Claims:

###One in every four women will experience domestic violence in her lifetime.1

TL;DR: looks legitimate

from the source:

Intimate partner violence is pervasive in U.S. society. Nearly 25 percent of surveyed women and 7.6 percent of surveyed men said they were raped and/or physically assaulted by a current or former spouse, cohabiting partner, or date at some time in their lifetime;

More so, if you look at NCVS 2009 numbers, assault is the most common form of violent crime (i.e. about 3,683,750 people are assaulted per year), 6% of which (221,000) are committed by an intimate partner, so 25% experiencing it, from a partner, at some point in their life, does not seem to be outlandish. Estimating 220K/year @ 70 years = 15,000,000 ...however, all rates of violent crime have been dropping (significantly) since the 1970's, so with high rates, it would make sense that the 70 year number would more closely approach the 75,000,000 mark. Adding in rape/sexual assault wouldn't significantly alter those numbers as we have about 125,910 per year and less than 0.5% are committed by intimate partners.

###Only approximately one-quarter of all physical assaults, one-fifth of all rapes, and one-half of all stalkings perpetuated against females by intimate partners are reported to the police.1

TL;DR: seems a bit suspicious because it contradicts what we know from other respectable data

from the source:

Approximately one-fifth of all rapes, one-quarter of all physical assaults, and one-half of all stalkings perpetrated against female respondents by intimates were reported to the police. Even fewer rapes, physical assaults, and stalkings perpetrated against male respondents by intimates were reported. The majority of victims who did not report their victimization to the police thought the police would not or could not do anything on their behalf. These findings suggest that most victims of intimate partner violence do not consider the justice system an appropriate vehicle for resolving conflicts with intimates.

However, this doesn't correspond well to NCVS numbers. According to those figures, more than one-half (55.4%) of all rapes/sexual assaults, and roughly one-half (aggr. assault: 58.2%, simple assault: 41.9%) of physical assaults are reported to the police (I don't have data on stalking). I'm sure the fact that they're intimate partners plays a big role in it. But for it to deviate so extremely from the norm is a bit suspicious.

I believe the variance in sample size may play a big role here, as this source only uses a sample size of 16,000 while the NCVS uses a sample size of 77,200. Please note, I'm not saying 16,000 was too small or anything like that, I'm just saying that, the larger the sample size, the smaller the margin of error.

###Approximately 20% of the 1.5 million people who experience intimate partner violence annually obtain civil protection orders.1

TL;DR: looks legitimate, but I'm too lazy to find other sources

from the source:

The survey found that female victims of intimate partner violence were significantly more likely than their male counterparts to obtain a protective or restraining order against their assailant. Specifically, 17.1 percent of the women but only 3.5 percent of the men who were physically assaulted by an intimate obtained a restraining order against their assailant after their most recent victimization. Similarly, 36.6 percent of the women but only 17 percent of the men who were stalked by an intimate obtained a restraining order against their assailant (exhibit 19). These findings suggest that women are more frightened by intimates who victimize them.

I have no other data on this.

###Approximately one-half of the orders obtained by women against intimate partners who physically assaulted them were violated.1

TL;DR: looks legitimate, but they seem to ignore male victims when inconvenient

The fourth, and final, claim is backed up by:

Information from the survey confirms previous reports that most temporary restraining orders are violated.2 More than two-thirds of the restraining orders obtained by women against intimates who raped or stalked them were violated, and approximately one-half of the orders obtained by women against intimates who physically assaulted them were violated. Similarly, more than two-thirds of the restraining orders obtained by men against intimates who physically assaulted them and nearly nine-tenths of the orders obtained by men against intimates who stalked them were violated (exhibit 19).

I have no other data on this, but find it odd that they're now ignoring male victims, even though a higher percentage appear to have their restraining orders violated by their former partners... 1/2 < 2/3

Fuck it, I'm not checking the other sources, someone else can go through the trouble.

Title	NCADV - Fact Sheet - Is This True?
Author	Il128
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Comments	13
Date	July 18, 2011 7:05 PM UTC (15 years ago)
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