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NPR interview re AVFMS, education, due process

kingends

October 3, 2015

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Title	NPR interview re AVFMS, education, due process
Author	kingends
Upvotes	12
Comments	9
Date	October 3, 2015 7:08 PM UTC (10 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/3ndet9/npr_interview_re_avfms_education_due_process/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/MensRights/npr-interview-re-avfms-education-due-process.970137 https://theredarchive.com/post/970137

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[–]Occams_Shiv 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link

~~This~~ (the last part) was just painful to listen to. The interviewer was clearly biased against everything that AVFMS stands for, and yet she went to considerable pains to (appear to) come to the interview with an open mind, and Mr. Taylor was just ~~embarrassingly~~ unprepared. ~~Truly disgraceful.~~

Interviewer: Can you describe a couple of what you consider to be recent landmark lawsuits?

Taylor: Um, hold on. Let me check my database.........(dead air)....................Um, my internet is slow ............................. ........................... (more dead air)...................................... So here's one at UC something, that, we won, I guess?... So, that was pretty good. ... I forgot the question.

Dude! Meet me at Camera 2! ~~You can NOT~~ (It was probably a mistake to) be referring to a database during a live interview! (It would have been better to) write out your talking points, relevant statistics, and the narrative summaries of the best lawsuits, on a ~~(FUCKING)~~ piece of paper, and have it in front of you! ~~Better yet, just~~(Or ideally) memorize that ~~shit, so that you sound like you know what you are talking about.~~

This was like the sound of a movement ~~dying.~~ (getting a taste of the big leagues.)

Mr. Taylor is a (really) good interviewee, is very non-threatening, and does not come across as angry, paranoid, or disgruntled. (which may make him unique in the entire MRM.) It is very difficult to argue with him when he is describing his personal story of how he began AVFMS. But his lack of preparation for the most predictable of questions, was ~~frankly shocking.~~ (unfortunate.)

edits: to replace unnecessary and just plain mean hyperbole with merely unpleasant honesty. Truly Sorry.

[–]Jonathan_Taylor 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

[–]Occams_Shiv 2 points3 points4 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah, sorry about that. It was uncalled for. Honestly, for the majority of the interview you were so on point, and so honest and believable, without ever being combative or hostile, that it seemed strange when it kind of went sideways for that little bit. If you took it down because of what I wrote, I'm sorry and I hope you put it back up.

Also, you are correct. I would never admit to supporting Men's Rights in public. I like my job, and I want to keep it. People who are cowards in real life should NOT talk big on the internet. Thank you for all that you do. Hopefully by the time I have sons of college age, it won't be such a fraught environment. If not, that will be largely due to your work, and those like you.

So I hope you will accept my apology. (I edited my unkind post for manners, but If you would like me to delete my post entirely, I'd be happy to do that too.)

[–]Jonathan_Taylor 1 point2 points3 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

It's all good, apology accepted. And the reality is that although I spend a lot of time building my databases and networking, I need better tools to get a quick snapshot of overall trends. I'm working on it now, and it will look somewhat like the reporting system I just made for my Conferences database here: http://www.avoiceformalestudents.com/symposia-conferences-seminars-lectures-talks-men-boys/#reports/

I may edit out the section of the video we discussed, but several viewers also complained about how the interviewer was 2-3 times as loud as I was. I thought it wouldn't be as much of an issue and rushed it into production because I'm in a crunch for time, but I figure I'll just put it back up when I can be sure people can hear it well. I'll be working on my databases over the next few days and responding to a backlog of emails, but I hope to have it up at the end of next week. When I do I'll put up a blog post on my website with both a video of that interview and a video of my recent Newsweek interview.

[–]AreYouAFoe 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

[–]Occams_Shiv 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]Jonathan_Taylor 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]AreYouAFoe 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Jonathan_Taylor 0 points1 point2 points 10 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link