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[–]bufedad 1 point2 points3 points (8 children) | Copy Link
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[+]tiniest-wizard1 points [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link
The source clarifies their statement:
It's true that a person that is drunk may be more vulnerable to sexual assault, but the solution isn't "drink less, lest ye be raped". That line of thought asserts that:
If you are drunk, it is (at least a little bit) your fault if you are assaulted
If the rapist was also drunk, it excuses their actions (at least a little bit).
And this is a very harmful way of thinking, that blames survivors and takes the blame away from rapists.
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[+]tiniest-wizard1 points [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link
Well, rape isn't really comparable to robbery. I could make the argument that people will rob you out of desperation -- to feed their family, pay bills, pay debts. Rape is always an act of sadism.
Also, as a side note, leaving your car unlocked DOES NOT increase the incidents of stolen cars. If people want to steal your car or your valuables inside, they'll just break a window. In fact, I personally know several people who PURPOSEFULLY leave their cars unlocked, hoping that robbers will just steal the change and not break their window (which is very expensive to fix).
The most important thing to understand though is that you should not blame the survivor. Survivors of sexual assault are never to blame.
"You were drunk! That's like flashing your gold iPhone to a poor neighborhood. Of course you got attacked. It's your fault."
Can you see what I'm saying?
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[+]tiniest-wizard1 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
...what else could it be? I suppose maybe profound ignorance? Maybe a frat boy doesn't know that sex with an unconscious girl = rape? Is that what you mean?
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[+]tiniest-wizard1 points [recovered] (10 children) | Copy Link
False rape accusations ARE extremely rare. The problem is that those rare cases are reported on so much, and circulated around certain groups and subreddits, that it seems like they're very common.
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[+]tiniest-wizard1 points [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link
It's hard to convince someone who seems to have already made up their mind, but I'll try anyways.
Here's an overview on False Reporting of Sexual Assault by the National Sexual Violence Resource Center, from 2010. It's the top google search for "false rape reports".
Your 8% statistic is correct. The study says:
This is based off three studies, totaling about 3,000 cases.
The problem is that the definition of "false reporting" is not universal. While we might think that a "false report" is "proven without a doubt that the accuser lied", here are some reasons that a reported rape might be considered a "false report".
The conclusion of the overview is that the incidences of "false reports" are inflated. A girl could have been raped on a Saturday, but have been unable to report it until Wednesday. That would be considered a false report. A man could have been drugged and assaulted, and misremembered some facts, getting the case thrown out. That would be a false report.
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[+]tiniest-wizard1 points [recovered] (3 children) | Copy Link
So, the studies say 2-10% are "proven false", right? But the study then goes on to show that a large number of those "proven false" reports are not actually proven false. They could be very real cases of rape where the survivor didn't report in time, didn't have enough evidence, or misremembered some facts.
Therefore, that 2-10% (or in your case, 8%) statistic is most likely much, much lower.
And as for the "3% are proven true", it's very true that for every 1000 rapes, 993 perpetrators are convicted. But let me ask you a question.
Do you think that means that there's an epidemic of women lying about being raped?
Or do you think that it means that our justice system is bad at convicting rapists?
Because there's strong evidence for the latter.
Listen, I'm not trying to prove you wrong, or win some argument. I'm trying to tell you that there's a serious problem with sexual assault and rape culture in the US, and that blaming survivors for being drunk or false reporting is actively contributing to harm. You don't have to be part of it :(
Please let me know if you want further explanation. I'm not an expert but I can try my hardest.
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[+]tiniest-wizard1 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
You disappoint me.
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