SWIM 2012

IHaveALargePenis · 2012-06-01T01:11:35+00:00

She mentions there's an issue about women in the medical field in the UK but blows it off as "not being sure what that's about". Doctors and nurses are fucking incredibly expensive to create in the educational field and women are basically quitting at 30 in order to become mommy's. When it costs the government 1-2 million to make a medical doctor they expect a return that benefits society. When these female doctors quit working, the government not only lost a shitload of money, but also lost an investment that was there to benefit society. But the people in government can't simply say they'll only train male doctors from now on because that would be political suicide. So the UK is experiencing a clusterfuck that nobody knows how to deal with, hence her mention of it.

At the 8-9 minute mark she makes a comment about how men "aren't retooling themselves" and assumes it's because of something like male incompetence. I would disagree, especially when looking at the marriage rates, the "where have all the good men gone" articles, and the anti male bias in society. Men are redefining what it is to be a man, redefining gender roles and they're coming to the conclusion that shooting for the hardest and best paying jobs isn't worth it. This is a fairly new phenomenon known as "going galt" which basically means men working and doing the bare minimum to fulfill their chosen lifestyle while having as little stress and as much free time as possible. At 15:30 she quotes "random" titles from men's health magazines including "do you deserve a hotter girlfriend". She admits that these magazines are basically ripping off women's magazines but the audience (all women) laugh. Funny how they can see the narcissism when it isn't targeted towards them.

Then she talks about testosterone and how it's harmful to the economy. She says she does disagree with it, but continues to talk about it (more laughs). I wonder what the reaction would be if we started talking about PMS and how it affects women's performance. Yeah, that's taboo and will end you.

24 minute mark "do women lack ambition? Which annoyed a lot of people." I'm thinking "go on..." Oh we're talking about a woman who's too ambitious? I thought this was going to kind of refer to this whole fucking thing that's going on right now against men. But there's an epidemic of women who don't want to work full time in the Netherlands or as she refers to it as "drop out after middle management", "run into obstacles they have to get around" and "women aren't into climbing a hierarchical structure." Oh and "they want to sort of be with their friends and hang out at yoga classes." Yeah, but their ambitions are being "killed off." Then she talks about biases, but still blames ANYONE but women. Including "don't marry a VERY rich man, because women who marry a very rich man are more likely to drop out of the workforce sooner and spend more time on childcare."

Oh and near the beginning she talks about the participation rate of women in STEM courses, specifically math and computer science. She mentions how women participate in these courses at nearly the same rate as men do in Islamic countries, and attributes this to sexism. Yes sexism, while ignoring the fact that outside the western world engineering is viewed as one of the most prestigious jobs, while being a business major in the US will impress more people than being an engineer. I wonder why women don't want to do something a lot harder that will give them much less recognition. She continues her talk about silicon valley and wall street/law firms throughout the speech, but never really focuses on anything.

Finally she starts making a decent point at the 30 minute mark. Talking about "only women at the top, what about everyone else?" It started off well at least, but then she goes off on a tangent and claiming that it's all about the women at the top. I feel like this whole thing was a waste of my fucking time, I could have been masturbating, cooking some food, or even cleaning my toilet right now. All of which would have been time better spent than listening to this nonsense.

TL:DR Don't watch the video. Read the rest below.

She assumes men are stupid and incompetent, jumps to conclusions based on current events without any proof and quotes a lot of pop culture, ancient sitcoms and individuals who share the same mindset. I honestly don't understand how this made it all the way to MIT. This is a glorified opinion piece mixed with sexism and a case of female circlejerk, but she's getting paid and entertaining young women, so it's all good.

For something called "The end of men" it strangely focuses mainly on women (I'm ball parking it, but it feels like AT LEAST 95% focuses on women). But yeah, she somehow doesn't have control over the title and just saw it before giving her speech. I would think the writer would be most qualified to write the title.

kanuk876 · 2012-06-01T04:40:07+00:00

This part cracked me up... but not, methinks, for the reason the audience found it funny...

Woman: "I think, very much, [today's young men] are much more willing to engage in these conversations, but they still don't come here."

Rosin: "Right."

Woman: "And, why not? So that's the question I want to pose."

Rosin: "Maybe we shouldn't call these things 'Women in Leadership' anymore. Maybe that's... They're certainly not going to come to my talk, called 'The End of Men'"

Title	SWIM 2012
Author	dicipres
Upvotes	5
Comments	2
Date	May 31, 2012 11:46 PM UTC (14 years ago)
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