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The USA court held that conscription for men was justified for men in exchange for men's right to vote. What did women give up for the right to vote? Nothing. And then there's http://www.feministcritics.org/blog/2011/07/07/the-draft-is-a-salient-issue-in-the-united-states-votes-for-women-isnt-noh/
/r/RedPillWomen20/03/16 12:42 AM
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I agree with you, that everyone craves respect, but there's another aspect at work I believe the author was drawing attention to. Let my try... A woman's reproductive self-interest is served when she feels loved, in both the individual and social contexts. IE "feeling loved" is how she knows her reproductive needs are met. A man's reproductive self-interest is served when he feels respected, in both the individual and social contexts. IE "feeling respected" is how he knows his reproductive needs…
/r/MensRights01/03/16 02:17 AM
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Socially acknowledged Sexual crimes are nearly all done by men. FTFY After 10 seconds of googling: http://www.secasa.com.au/pages/breaking-the-last-taboo-sexual-abuse-by-female-perpetrators Having only recently made progress in a hard-fought battle to place gender and male power at the centre of an analysis of sexual abuse, practitioners and theoreticians are understandably reluctant to focus any attention on female abusers. ... emerging research confirmed that sexual abuse by women may well not…
/r/MensRights09/02/15 10:09 AM
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true
/r/MensRights02/04/13 03:48 AM
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Men's fertility decreases with age, and the mutation rate in their children rises significantly after the age of 40. Edit: reference
/r/MensRights31/03/13 08:54 PM
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A woman taking 6 aspirin and calling 911 is not a "suicide attempt", it's a reasonably-safe call for help. Yet it's counted as a suicide attempt. We found your double-standard.
/r/MensRights09/03/13 09:37 PM
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FTA: Women are more likely to attempt suicide, We don't know this. Nobody does, because we haven't studied it. Women are more likely to have their suicide attempts reported and counted That's the correct answer. but men are more than four times as likely to die if they do attempt suicide. Bodies, on the other hand, don't lie. Actually, they do. The number of male suicides is under-reported because not all suicides are recognized as such. A man deliberately driving his vehicle at high speed into …
/r/MensRights03/03/13 06:03 AM
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feminism as a whole, is almost the cause of every single source of legal discrimination that men face in North America No, it's not. Feminism is only part of our problems. For example, feminism is not the root cause of, nor the force behind the continued practice of male genital mutilation in North America. The worst that can be said regarding circumcision is that feminists work damn hard to keep any male suffering from public recognition. The earliest circumcision proponents were mostly men. An…
/r/MensRights18/02/13 07:34 AM
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Additionally, many people genuinely believe if they "do nothing wrong", then the state will do no wrong to them. They don't understand their mistake until they, personally, are affected. But by then it's often too late.
/r/MensRights12/02/13 05:11 AM
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Try the Search Bar
/r/MensRights12/02/13 05:05 AM
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I believe he's complaining about the fact that he cannot buy a legal copy in Australia until May 2013, despite it being available in the UK since November.
/r/MensRights11/02/13 12:53 AM
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The battle of the sexes is over. And guess what? No one won. Why not try something else on for size? Toothpaste ain't going back in the tube.
/r/MensRights10/02/13 07:08 AM
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Exactly. Genital amputations are intended to deprive the person their natural ability to experience sexual pleasure. Foreskin doesn't grow back (earings), you can't have the condition removed (tatoo). It's rather more severe, I'd say, in terms of imposing an irreversible decision on someone else. Especially where something so important and personal as sex is involved. Now, if the kid was getting the tatoo on his genitals, THEN it might start to compare to circumcision in terms of pain and trauma…
/r/MensRights28/01/13 07:34 AM
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Is it just my perception, or do healthy, natural male-male relationships often become sexualized in the eyes of an insecure woman? Is this why some women see their boyfriend's buddies as competition?! Or is it just projection on the part of a closet-bisexual woman?
/r/MensRights26/01/13 05:53 PM
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Canada still openly practices male genital mutilation. We violently sexually assault and mutilate over 10% of our male children.
/r/MensRights25/01/13 03:00 AM
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credit cards -- bad bad bad idea. They're a paper trail. And they're visible on his credit rating report. Don't keep anything discover-able in the stash box. Even the safety deposit box is iffy. You do not want a paper trail.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 08:51 AM
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Not college, but infant and child boys: The Invisible Boy, from the Gov't of Canada.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 08:36 AM
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Why should I have to subsidize someone else's abortion? Abortions are a helluva lot cheaper than prisons, welfare, and other costs associated with unwanted children.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 08:28 AM
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I recommend "It's 10 Oclock; do you know where your sperm are?". Lots of citations, factual, impersonal yet affects everyone in the class. As to what to avoid... circumcision, unless you're prepared to (a) give an anatomy lesson, followed by (b) one or more videos of actual circumcisions (google circumcision video). Because there's far, far too much misinformation and brainwashing around this issue, to say nothing of the psychological trauma and denial you might stir in the audience.
/r/MensRights24/01/13 08:23 AM
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Beautiful
/r/MensRights22/01/13 08:46 AM
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Fair point. Add your observations to all the other ways in which cutting the foreskin from infant boys has a "special exception" in our socio-legal system. Another example: the acquisition and trade of human tissue is strictly regulated in North America... except the foreskins amputated from infant boys. The deeper you go, the stranger this issue looks.
/r/MensRights22/01/13 08:31 AM
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Thank you for posting here. Kudos.
/r/MensRights21/01/13 09:10 AM
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/r/MensRights has always been a multi-purpose reddit, including: informational and/or reference posts based on scientific research ranting / venting / group therapy the link between the war on families and big government breaking down of stereotypes, including de-programming ourselves of the men-bad/women-good brainwashing corporate media links I don't see any reason to change now.
/r/MensRights20/01/13 12:46 PM
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If the shooter had been a woman, the title would be "Mental Illness, not Womanhood, Should Be Central In Newtown Shooting"
/r/MensRights19/01/13 02:29 AM
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What do you think about this line of thought? That it sucks for child rearing.
/r/MensRights18/01/13 06:03 AM
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Warren Farrell coined the term "The Power to Not Debate" when he was trying to find a feminist to debate live on the radio and was completely shunned.
/r/MensRights14/01/13 04:24 AM
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"No True Scottsman" fallacy. Judge a movement by its accomplishments, not its words.
/r/MensRights14/01/13 04:22 AM
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One of the reasons MRM has legitimacy is because we're not afraid of the truth.
/r/MensRights14/01/13 04:14 AM
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FTA: If you brought up wife-beaters, I wouldn't pull back. I get it. There's guys hitting women -- they need to be stopped. We have to understand: these gold digging whores are wife beaters for men. Except, we don't have that Rhianna lumped-up photo in the end. So it's not obvious. It's in the eyes. It's in the lines in your face. ... I'm envious of women. I'm not saying your problems get solved. But at least they're taken seriously.
/r/MensRights13/01/13 11:56 PM
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I believe we are close!!! StatsCan has charted the marriage rate and age-at-first-marriage for Canadians. Also note that StatsCan stopped tracking marriage information. ... maybe they don't like the direction those charts are headed?
/r/MensRights13/01/13 09:28 PM
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Venting is also good, and it's usually pretty ugly at first sight. I wonder how men would feel about women if we judged women by their group therapy comments.
/r/MensRights13/01/13 08:57 PM
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She wrote a book about her experiences, but she can't make anyone read it, feminist sister or otherwise. We all have the power to not-listen.
/r/MensRights13/01/13 08:36 PM
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I think you miss the point. We don't want to win or even participate in the oppression olympics. We want to stand up and say, "This is a shitty situation" or "This happened to me" and not be shamed or shouted down.
/r/MensRights13/01/13 08:32 PM
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My surprise is that women, in general, can be so utterly and completely blind to men's lived experience. These women are literally surrounded by men and yet...
/r/MensRights13/01/13 08:29 PM
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Or goal is not to convince Zinnia of anything; our goal is for you to respect yourself despite people like Zinnia. I understand -- it's natural to value the opinions of others -- but in this case, the opinions of others have and will always call for your enslavement.
/r/MensRights13/01/13 08:17 PM
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Another example of: "Let's ignore and deny all <evil crime> performed by females and.... OMG ALL <evil ciminals> ARE MALE!" How un-surprising considering our socio-cultural biases.
/r/MensRights12/01/13 02:46 AM
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Or you could click 'hide' and not have to look at it ever again. Do you feel disempowered by a screenshot of text?
/r/MensRights11/01/13 05:27 PM
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Pulling people's personal ads from <anywhere> and posting them here? Not cool. How about you post us your online dating ad. Don't want to? Why? How about you extend these people the same courtesy.
/r/MensRights09/01/13 05:21 AM
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Start with some basic anatomy lessons, discussion or medical video Check out some past reddit discussions Google circumcision videos. You can find your own links, I'm sure. Try some research like this exploring the psychological consequences of neonatal torture and sexual sensory deprivation. Maybe check out professional groups opposing male genital mutilation Finish up with some comments from circumcised women
/r/MensRights08/01/13 02:45 AM
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Cancel cable / satatlite / Hulu & destroy the television repurpose the television as a gigantic computer monitor FTFY
/r/MensRights07/01/13 09:47 AM
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Fantastic article. Thank you.
/r/MensRights06/01/13 10:16 PM
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should have seen it 20 years ago.
/r/MensRights06/01/13 12:10 AM
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I believe fatherhood is the larger issue in the OP. This woman is in a position, pre-conception, to find a new (living) father for her future children -- and thereby bestow upon her children, a man, and society at large the benefits of fatherhood.
/r/MensRights05/01/13 11:11 PM
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I'd add... Few people here stand against natural human reproduction with willing partners (or recently deceased and previously willing partners). We're against society using sperm and children as weapons to enslave men; you can't enslave a dead man.
/r/MensRights05/01/13 11:03 PM
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See "Mother Nature" by Sarah Hrdy. BradHicks wrote a blog post on the book: One of the researchers was an epidemiologist who, in the process of trying to quantify his hunch, initiated a study in which social workers and police very, very intensively interviewed and background checked a long string of crib deaths that had been explained away as unexplained random respiratory failure. It turns out that his equation was able to predict, with high (but not absolute) reliability, which infants had ac…
/r/MensRights05/01/13 10:51 PM
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See "Mother Nature" by Sarah Hrdy. BradHicks wrote a blog post on the book: I think that 30 scientists and researchers from a half dozen or more different fields who gathered in rural France in 1990 to check each others' work must have felt something of that same horror when they found that they could not disprove their mutual finding. It was something that none of them wanted to believe. ... I'm sure that they knew or at least suspected that no matter how important their scientific finding was,…
/r/MensRights05/01/13 10:50 PM
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Also see "Mother Nature" by Sarah Hrdy. BradHicks wrote a blog post on the book: I think that 30 scientists and researchers from a half dozen or more different fields who gathered in rural France in 1990 to check each others' work must have felt something of that same horror when they found that they could not disprove their mutual finding. It was something that none of them wanted to believe. ... I'm sure that they knew or at least suspected that no matter how important their scientific finding…
/r/MensRights05/01/13 10:02 PM
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May I remind you we're talking about a surgical procedure performed on a non-consenting minor. Even if STD prevention were 100% and saved the world from certain destruction, it can still bloody well wait until the person is 18, at which point they can make an informed decision for themselves. You ever hear of the concept of "respect"? Or perhaps "human rights"? How about "ethics"? Do these not count?
/r/MensRights04/01/13 08:27 AM
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may I remind you we're talking about a surgical procedure performed on a non-consenting minor. Even if STD prevention were 100% and saved the world from certain destruction, it can still bloody well wait until the person is 18, at which point the can make an informed decision for themselves. You ever hear of the concept of "respect"? Or perhaps "human rights"? How about "ethics"?
/r/MensRights04/01/13 08:27 AM
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I recommend you read more on the history of circumcision in the USA. In my opinion, religion is merely one of many cover stories.
/r/MensRights04/01/13 08:23 AM
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Evolution made the genitals in a very specialized and particular way. Cutting them off has consequences. Yes, the problem will sort itself out eventually.
/r/MensRights04/01/13 08:20 AM
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Stop for a moment and think about the short- and long-term psychological effects of severe physical and psychological pain + trauma on an infant. This isn't all about sex. Go do your research on that. There's plenty to be found. Then search for the longitudinal studies investigating the short- and long-term effects of neonatal circumcision. Look for research correlating circumcision to divorce, suicide or social problems in men in later life. These are obvious topics to investigate for any ratio…
/r/MensRights01/01/13 06:16 AM
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the obviousness of the bias is...astounding. +1 bazillion
/r/MensRights01/01/13 06:13 AM
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Stephan makes some beautiful statements. For example: "If marriage is so negative towards women, then why is it - why, oh why- is it that women are constantly complaining that men don't want to get married?" "when a woman tells you that you need to grow up, what it really means is.. you're not producing stuff I can steal from you." "The new nobility for men is simply to not get involved with this stuff any more [marriage, relationships]. Because when you [men] are told you're a problem, when you…
/r/MensRights01/01/13 12:57 AM
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Quick summary of issues comparing MGM and FGM: http://www.circumstitions.com/FGMvsMGM.html FGM MGM Cutting? YES YES Of the genitals? YES YES Of babies? YES YES Of children? YES YES Without consent? YES YES At parents' behest? YES YES Removing erogenous tissue? YES YES Supposedly beneficial? YES YES Justified by aesthetics? YES YES Justified by supposed health benefits? YES YES Justified by religion? YES YES Justified by sexual effects? YES YES Justified by custom? YES YES Justified by conformity…
/r/MensRights31/12/12 10:25 AM
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Adding my $0.02 Try to get funding to research the short- and long-term psychological, sexual and social effects of male circumcision. Nobody will fund it. We'll fund research into everything and anything... but not male genital mutilation.
/r/MensRights31/12/12 10:19 AM
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FGM is so much more harmful and cruel. Says who? I dont expect FGM activists to do much for anti-circumcision movements Wrong. Reference #1: Soraya Mire: Victim of FGM and anti‑FGM activist This act [of] female genital mutilation or male cutting or male genital mutilation—whether it's a cultural or religious or personal choice—I think is nothing but a scar of betrayal; it really is a sore wound; [the minute] you touch that child—the minute you cut at that child—[inaudible, so this is a guess at …
/r/MensRights31/12/12 10:15 AM
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works that way in the dating/marriage department too
/r/MensRights30/12/12 08:50 PM
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Good summary. I would add: the ref is in a similar situation. For example, if he lets a foul against the female slide, regardless of how minor, he's vulnerable to a charge of discrimination, sexism, or worse.
/r/MensRights30/12/12 08:46 PM
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because they will get what they want. Except mother nature doesn't change and doesn't negotiate. Even for princess pretty-girl. Hence we see male-dominated professions... like garbage collection and oil rig operator, despite the latter being very well paid.
/r/MensRights26/12/12 10:59 PM
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If they rape the women... imagine what they're doing to the men. IE: Biased reporting is biased. You ever hear of cherry picking?
/r/MensRights25/12/12 09:44 PM
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Well done.
/r/MensRights25/12/12 07:10 PM
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They also don't push for men in education and child-care because it conflicts with their promotion of rape culture and propogandized fear of only male paedophilia while ignoring female pedophiles. FTFY one reference among many
/r/MensRights25/12/12 10:11 AM
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So much for the human right to a whole body. Or are males not human now?
/r/MensRights25/12/12 05:55 AM
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Also, this is probably why men are less likely to go to the doctor. Among many.
/r/MensRights22/12/12 12:12 PM
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Nevertheless, there's no need to amputate it immediately. It is supremely disrespectful to the patient, and an obvious and profound breech of trust.
/r/MensRights22/12/12 12:11 PM
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Judge a person by their actions, not their words. Judge a movement by its accomplishments, not its words.
/r/MensRights22/12/12 12:08 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missing_white_woman_syndrome
/r/MensRights22/12/12 11:47 AM
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Genetic research has proven, beyond any reasonable doubt, that we are descended from twice as many women as men. To put this another way, approximately 80% of the women who ever existed have living descendants today, whereas only 40% of the men who ever existed have living descendants today. It's not hypothetical at all. At one level, it's biological fact.
/r/MensRights20/12/12 09:25 AM
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Maybe start at the other end and work backwards. I'll start: What makes a happy person (man/woman): content with their life, a feeling of wholeness and purpose, active socially and in their interests. With time for balanced amounts of daydreaming, pleasure seeking and money earning. Next, what do the women you talk with lack, whereas a "happy" person would feel that part of their life is fulfilled. I might start with psychological health, due to a variety of factors (for both men and women).
/r/MensRights19/12/12 10:31 PM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/new/ 'New' tab is your friend.
/r/MensRights19/12/12 09:53 PM
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Agreed. And our contribution is substantial and material. But... If we could add up all the contributions of men, I suspect we wouldn't call men "disposable"... we're more like expensive life-enhancing luxury goods. "Taken for granted" captures today's view of men better -- ie: not disposable, but disregarded. Like a car, refrigerator, indoor plumbing or medical services. Can women and society live without them? Yes. Is life better without them? No.
/r/MensRights19/12/12 09:38 PM
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Awareness is the wrong word. Gov't bodies are aware, but they filter the data to include only that which supports their agenda, suppressing or ignoring data which does not. The provincial government where I live in Canada has a library in the basement of the legislature building. They call it "Australia". Because any report they don't like the conclusions of gets sent to "Australia" and is never heard from again. My point being: you cannot create an entire library of unpopular report findings an…
/r/MensRights19/12/12 09:35 PM
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I once heard it said: "When people don't deal with their psychological issues, they pass them on to their children." This is true in my family as well.
/r/MensRights19/12/12 09:06 PM
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I had forced cosmetic genital surgery when I was an infant. I desire no more medical violence done against my genitals.
/r/MensRights19/12/12 09:03 PM
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Jay Gould, an 'elite' of his day, purportedly said, During the Great Southwest Railroad Strike of 1886, he hired strikebreakers. According to labor unionists, he said at the time, "I can hire one-half of the working class to kill the other half." Lots of reasons to divide the "working class" along gender lines.
/r/MensRights19/12/12 07:50 AM
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According to the Gender Genie Words: 1586 (NOTE: The genie works best on texts of more than 500 words.) Female Score: 2758 Male Score: 2204 The Gender Genie thinks the author of this passage is: female!
/r/MensRights19/12/12 07:36 AM
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Also note that her chances of having, and keeping contact with, grandchildren are now tied in with her son's rights in society and under the law.
/r/MensRights19/12/12 07:32 AM
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You think the threat of family-court-imposed devastation doesn't affect all relationships? Even with "good" women? Get real.
/r/MensRights19/12/12 07:29 AM
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nobody deserves to go through that.
/r/MensRights19/12/12 07:28 AM
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Worse part is even when I do help when I see a women struggling I don't even get a thank you, you describe a person taking you for granted.
/r/MensRights15/12/12 11:32 AM
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FTA: A story from the life of Samuel Proctor (d. 1997) comes to mind here. Proctor was the beloved pastor of Harlem's Abyssinian Baptist Church. Apparently, he was in the elevator one day when a young woman came in. Proctor tipped his hat at her. She was offended and said, "What is that supposed to mean?" The pastor's response was: "Madame, by tipping my hat I was telling you several things. That I would not harm you in any way. That if someone came into this elevator and threatened you, I would…
/r/MensRights15/12/12 11:31 AM
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Thank you for posting.
/r/MensRights15/12/12 11:23 AM
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Plus... there are plenty of effeminate hipsters in the MRM, and plenty of blue-collar white knights.
/r/MensRights15/12/12 11:04 AM
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I would really like to hear other people's insights on this as to the why's A better question is: why aren't the various power-that-be (MRM, police, psychology and sociology professions) answering this question for you? Why do you come to a Mens Rights forum to ask your question?! Shouldn't everyone be asking, and answering your question? But they're not. Because the various power-that-be don't want to know the answer. The general USA public does not want to have any insight whatsoever into men'…
/r/MensRights15/12/12 10:54 AM
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Following the Ecole Polytechnique shooting in Montreal, Canada, there was widespread gun control petitions leading to billions of dollars spent on useless gun registration legislation and bureaucracy. IE: because a severely abused and mentally ill person in Montreal shot a bunch of people, rural prairie farmers have to register their rifles with the government. And not one abused or mentally ill person was helped, at any time, anywhere in the process.
/r/MensRights15/12/12 10:43 AM
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If you limit your activism to fighting feminists, you'll fail to address many MRM issues.
/r/MensRights15/12/12 10:26 AM
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This is happening of its own accord.
/r/MensRights15/12/12 10:21 AM
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education and individual empowerment That's my goal. Be the change you want to see in the world.
/r/MensRights15/12/12 10:18 AM
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Fair enough. But I'd argue bad luck is not the same thing as systemic discrimination. The difference is that a woman who suffers due to relationships with her father or boyfriend can receive validation and support from a broad slice of society -- from personal to community to government. A man who suffers due to the reasons we discuss here cannot and will not receive validation or support from society. In fact, the community and government is often the one inflicting suffering upon the man. That…
/r/MensRights15/12/12 10:11 AM
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Then what is the purpose of your original post?! Within the cultural context we live, where 50% of USA-born boys have their genitals mutilated for non-medical, aesthetic reasons, your post says, "it's ok to continue circumcising your sons because PHIMOSIS". I say again: why bring up an extremely rare condition in a conversation about a very common and grotesque practice, unless you are defending said practice?
/r/MensRights10/12/12 11:56 PM
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I have. I've done the research. I know where these "studies" are coming from -- the people behind them, their psychology, their funding, and their agenda. I invite you to do the same.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 11:52 PM
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Maybe remind your wife that she can decide to cut off her son's foreskin, but he decides how to respond in 10 or 20 years. Does she really want her son hating her fucking guts? Because that's a distinct possibility. Plenty of circumcised men hate their parents and doctors due to this bullshit genital mutilation issue. They don't talk about it much, but the number is much higher than you'd suspect.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 08:52 AM
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there are a few cases where people brought suits against the doctor. But they are rare and the conditions in which the courts will allow such a suit are very limited. Like 2 years after turning 18. I wish more people would sue. It's one of the few ways we could actually get doctors to stop this brutality.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 08:50 AM
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People who suffer trauma know exactly what kind of people they are surrounded by. Ultimately, that's what changes a potentially-traumatic event into trauma symptoms. "I'm hurt" "No you're not. I don't care. Stop being a pussy. Don't burden others with your problems."
/r/MensRights10/12/12 08:42 AM
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99.9% of pro-genital-mutilation science is junk science. Bad science. Anyone can conduct a shitty research project. It takes a hell of a lot of good science to justify something as radical as amputating the healthy sexual tissue from non-consenting minors. Even many of doctors who perform circumcisions will admit it's done primarily for aesthetic reasons. IE: "because mom and dad thinks it looks better surgically altered". I'm not against anyone deciding circumcision for themselves at age 18. Be…
/r/MensRights10/12/12 08:36 AM
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I was obliquely commenting on the sample size used to scientifically justify circumcision of 50% of boys born in the USA today. Which is to say: 0 Furthermore, try to go get funding to perform a longitudinal study of the effects of circumcision on the recipient's lives. Hell, they won't just pull your funding, they'll censor your results. Nobody wants to know the real effects of forced, irreversible neonatal genital mutilation.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 08:28 AM
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300 people is plenty to derive a statistically relevant result. The main reason to take a larger sample is to reduce the probability of error. What you should be asking about is the details of the test. Was the sample self-selecting? Did they all share some kind of history? Were the results self-reported? Lots of devils in the details.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 08:26 AM
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But nobody : read that again: NOBODY is advocating against circumcision for ADULTS. Fer fuck sake. We're talking about forced circumcision for INFANTS who cannot consent.
/r/MensRights10/12/12 08:22 AM
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Circumcision is just another name for genital mutilation. There's no judgement in that; just facts.
/r/MensRights09/12/12 10:17 AM
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but you'll never know, will you.
/r/MensRights09/12/12 10:15 AM
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is very very rare. and even in cases of phimosis, many men decide to not have surgery to alleviate the situation. how about we respect people's right to a whole body and self-determination?
/r/MensRights09/12/12 10:13 AM
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you mean like the research done on the long-term social, psychological and sexual effects of torturing and amputating the genitals from infant boys? Oh wait, they never researched circumcision, they've just been coming up with lame-ass post-facto lies for 100 years to justify their perversion.
/r/MensRights09/12/12 10:11 AM
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ah, now I know why ppl react so adversely when I bring up circumcision
/r/MensRights08/12/12 09:38 PM
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More like "past harm and current social pathology looking for a justification to continue."
/r/MensRights08/12/12 09:34 PM
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One study, not yet debunked by the larger body of sane medical scientists, showing marginal benefit to surgical amputation does not justify routine neonatal genital mutilation, human rights violations, sexual oppression and torture. Just say'in.
/r/MensRights08/12/12 09:32 PM
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She might as well piss on their graves. Here's a question: yeah, she said it. But did she believe it? I don't think Hillary gives a rat's ass about soldiers who die in war or the women she was talking to when she claimed "women are the primary victims of war." If I'm right, the question becomes... why did she say it?
/r/MensRights07/12/12 11:56 AM
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How's this: Nobody ever hated their parent's guts for leaving them intact. On the contrary, there are countless men who hate their parents for circumcising them. Many men do not speak to their parents because of it. Your husband has to understand: you and your husband get to decide whether your son has his genitals mutilated. But your son gets to decide how he will react to that decision. Ask your husband if he wants to risk his son spitting in his eye in 20 years, metaphorically or literally, b…
/r/MensRights07/12/12 11:30 AM
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we have met the enemy....
/r/MensRights07/12/12 11:23 AM
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And what about the dead?
/r/MensRights07/12/12 11:19 AM
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From the youtube audio: I've learned from arguing with feminists, owing to the feminist's denial syndrome, "Oh, we never said that," you have to name them and quote them. Sound familiar?
/r/MensRights07/12/12 10:32 AM
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Women are more likely to be diagnosed with depression. That one word diagnosed is pretty important in there. Like in the related statistic: more males die of suicide, but there are more reported female attempted suicides. Again, very important words there. Gotta pay attention to the spin.
/r/MensRights05/12/12 08:55 AM
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I agree. Though I haven't yet walked the walk, I am making arrangements to do so.
/r/MensRights02/12/12 06:39 AM
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Warren Farrell has dedicated his life to bringing men and women together and ending the gender war. This is how Feminism responds. Warren Farrell was disowned by feminists when, in couples counselling, he began to listen not exclusively to the women, but also to the men's view and lived experiences.
/r/MensRights02/12/12 06:35 AM
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From another reference here: The author concludes that more research into female-perpetrated child sexual abuse is necessary
/r/MensRights02/12/12 06:21 AM
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The de-facto single-man tax works by taxing everyone and then giving money back to single women with kids through various programs from tax breaks to welfare.
/r/MensRights02/12/12 06:10 AM
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In North America, I'll name two easy ones: The human right to a whole body, to be free from torture, and the right to self determination. All swept away in the violent sexual assault and body amputation we call "circumcision". Actually, this is three rights, but I digress. The right to not be thrown in jail because you don't make enough money. We outlaw debtors prison... except for men removed from their children's lives.
/r/MensRights01/12/12 03:01 AM
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Ok Mr. Moderate ReasonablePerson. BTW, people don't change because others politely ask them to. They change in the face of strong emotions -- anger or shame for example. You are determined to feel and incite neither. Which makes you a stalwart for the status quo. I say again: we have laws for a reason. The legal system may be an imperfect mechanism for this sort of thing, but giving doctors in particular unequivocal guidance on circumcision would be a good thing. All I'm asking for is equal prot…
/r/MensRights29/11/12 08:27 AM
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Im happy my parents did not circumscise me. But I dont think it should be banned You're saying you do not believe in the human right to a whole body and self determination. So you don't mind if I cut other parts off my baby? Or is it just genitals I'm allowed to amputate? How about girl parts, or are they sacred? If you start taking away that decission from parents We already have. We call it "Child Abuse" and it's fucking illegal for a reason. Asshole.
/r/MensRights29/11/12 06:50 AM
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Being an MRA makes me think of diplomats living in foreign or hostile cultures.
/r/MensRights25/11/12 12:11 PM
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that the further feminism goes, the more men are forced to accept that there are serious inequalities facing them. and then it hits: "... all this time, I've been lied to. And I trusted and believed them, I met them in good faith, and they lied, manipulated and exploited me."
/r/MensRights25/11/12 11:46 AM
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I don't see much middle ground in those tweets.
/r/MensRights25/11/12 11:36 AM
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Lies. Haven't you ever watched a small boy looking for a hug, only to be pushed away by his mother? I'm talking 4-years-old here.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 05:39 AM
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One difference being if the rich kid actually lived in the slum, he'd probably figure it out eventually. Women live their whole lives surrounded by men, yet how many "figure it out?" Maybe 10%?
/r/MensRights20/11/12 05:37 AM
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Judge people by their actions, not their words. More-so where women's biological imperative is involved.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 05:35 AM
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What I've read in some quick google searches You are as likely to find unbiased data on suicide as you are on male circumcision. The data exists, you can find it, but you have to dig... and wade through a bunch of propaganda, half-truths and lies.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 05:26 AM
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When people say: there are more female suicide attempts, but more male suicide victims I retort with: there are more female suicide attempts reported, but more male suicide victims because successful suicides leave dead bodies which are hard to ignore
/r/MensRights20/11/12 05:15 AM
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From If Men Have All the Power, How Come Women Make the Rules? (free PDF) by Jack Kammer, page 186: In southern California in the late 1970s I was an Emergency Medical Technician working for an ambulance company. One day my partner and I got a call for a possible suicide. We arrived to find a 30-ish woman on the phone, pacing in the kitchen, bawling to her girlfriend. She had taken a dozen aspirin. We walked her to the ambulance and she rode sitting up to the hospital emergency room. The very ne…
/r/MensRights20/11/12 05:10 AM
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eg: single-vehicle accidents.
/r/MensRights20/11/12 04:58 AM
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It's a lie women tell themselves in a vain attempt to relieve their feeling of guilt.
/r/MensRights19/11/12 08:12 AM
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And there's more: Earlier this year, the White House announced plans to analyze "gender and minority gaps" in the sciences, as a preliminary step to creating new guidelines "to help institutions comply with Title IX rules in the science, technology, engineering and math fields." Some analysts worry that this may translate into gender-based quotas in traditionally male-dominated majors like engineering. But there don't seem to be any plans to bring balance to female-dominated majors like biology,…
/r/MensRights16/11/12 01:59 AM
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FTA: Kevin Ladd, vice president of Scholarships.com, noted that, among scholarships with gender restrictions, there are 3.5 available to women for every scholarship available to men. I'm shocked, shocked that there are more women than men in college! Shocked, I say! It must be because women rewl. That must be the case.
/r/MensRights16/11/12 01:57 AM
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Apparently those men are gender traitors. Or something. Just a sec, I have my feminist dogma guide around here somewhere...
/r/MensRights13/11/12 08:19 AM
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I'm glad you put that tidbit in. A troll probably wouldn't have thought of the post-op procedures and therefore adds credibility to your story. And besides, wtf is wrong with cooling your junk after an operation?
/r/MensRights13/11/12 08:16 AM
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Zubaty is genius. Far closer to the truth than Bly, methinks. It must be because he's an asshole; only an asshole tells you the truth without concern for your feelings.
/r/MensRights12/11/12 08:23 AM
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dead cow eyes = cognitive dissonance
/r/MensRights10/11/12 05:01 AM
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Why our schools are failing boys - Canada ... because they were designed to. They're operating as intended.
/r/MensRights10/11/12 02:17 AM
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Slave labor, entertainment, silence, and a few charismatic tall leaders who own everything and who women can mate with.
/r/MensRights09/11/12 02:41 AM
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This is a sign we're doing something right.
/r/MensRights01/11/12 04:17 AM
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that poor boy is fucked for life. His genital tissue is not growing back. I think you mean that you hope future boys will have the opportunity to lead normal lives.
/r/MensRights01/11/12 04:15 AM
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But thank god he won't get a urinary tract infection!!! OMGZ!
/r/MensRights31/10/12 04:36 AM
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"Fire in the belly" didn't speak to me. I never finished it. I found Iron John more interesting and relevant. But this sort of thing is very personal. On the whole, I found books like Aftermath more personally relevant. Not because I experienced the same trauma as the author (Susan Brison), but rather that I share her perspectives and goals. Humans + trauma = the same shit, regardless of the trauma or the genders involved. Susan Brison (survivor of attempted murder and rape) often found she had …
/r/MensRights30/10/12 07:06 AM
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how long will it be until the bachalor tax is considered again? We already have it. If you look at the tax rate for all people, then subtract the tax credits / welfare / etc. given to predominantly or exclusively women, or family tax credits, the net result is a de-facto single-man tax. The occasional woman who has chosen to have no children, live alone, never marry and support herself through career has, in essence, decided to live the male bachelor lifestyle and is taxed accordingly. But this …
/r/MensRights27/10/12 04:03 PM
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When I see things like this, my rule of thumb is that the opposite is closer to the truth. Reverse the genders and you'll see the hidden message she's trying to deny: women (I) cannot care about the plight of men due to their (my) matriarchal brainwashing/forced androgenetic hormonal mutation. Which version would you say is more in line with reality?
/r/MensRights26/10/12 04:41 AM
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It stayed primarily a jewish cultural ritual in Europe but became a mainstream practice in America as certain doctors were obsessed with sexually mutilating and sexually oppressing young teens and children. FTFY. From Kellogg's own mouth: A remedy for masturbation which is almost always successful in small boys is circumcision. The operation should be performed by a surgeon without administering an anesthetic, as the brief pain attending the operation will have a salutary effect upon the mind, e…
/r/MensRights23/10/12 03:34 AM
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I'm sure even more grisly things happened 200 years ago. I suspect 200 years ago looked very much like today in the grisly department. They were just grisly about different things. The OP makes the point clearly: men have it bad today, just like women 200 years ago.
/r/MensRights16/10/12 05:21 AM
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I suspect this is what passes as humor in those parts. For some, anyways.
/r/MensRights16/10/12 05:15 AM
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Fucking feels like we're still living in the dark ages of superstition we are. That and ignorance.
/r/MensRights11/10/12 06:26 AM
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Why do you believe the hypothetical person in my example is a man? There are plenty of female doctors happy to mutilate penises. Not to mention the nurses. And yes, many of them rationalize their actions as being helpful. My point stands: good intentions while ignoring feedback = monster.
/r/MensRights01/10/12 06:23 AM
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"I cut off babies foreskins for their own good, but they keep crying! Some even die! Don't they understand I'm doing this for their health and long-term benefit?!" Intentions are insufficient. RESPECT is an absolute requirement. If you do not pay attention to the consequences of your actions, then your intentions don't mean jack shit and you're just another delusional monster in the world.
/r/MensRights30/09/12 06:54 PM
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I think Men should cry more then women. So much is expected of them, and many can't do those things. I agree. But never in front of a woman you hope to have sex with. This isn't an issue of equality, it's simple built-in instinct. Which is why men need close friendships outside their marriage, for example.
/r/MensRights30/09/12 06:50 PM
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half the Atlantic doesn't bother you? The Gulf of Mexico oil spill has changed the weather in Europe!
/r/MensRights29/09/12 06:30 AM
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I invite you to a course of prawns, caught off the coast of Florida.
/r/MensRights29/09/12 06:30 AM
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Your mission, if you choose to accept it, is to visit /r/egalitarian and see if you can tell the difference from /r/feminisms.
/r/MensRights28/09/12 03:00 AM
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I don't see any reason to add more moderators. If the mods felt the burden was too much, they'd do something about it.
/r/MensRights25/09/12 03:32 PM
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4-5 mods is more than enough. More mods = more problems, particularly for a politically charged reddit like /r/MensRights. With more moderators, shit-disturbers have a greater chance to foster in-fighting between the mods. Often the shit-disturbers campaign to become mods so they can disturb shit more effectively. Furthermore, the moderator workload is related to new-post rate and problem-rate, not subscribers. If the moderators felt their load was too high, they're in a position to resolve the …
/r/MensRights25/09/12 03:26 PM
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Never. The guilt would kill them. They will live in denial until they die.
/r/MensRights24/09/12 06:40 AM
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Except for every other piece of sexist shit that comes out of the corporate media today.
/r/MensRights24/09/12 06:31 AM
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How about we start with "Japanese women could treat the men in their lives like human beings, not ATM machines."
/r/MensRights24/09/12 06:25 AM
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First rule of gynocentrism: all male voice must be silenced, ignored, and thoroughly disregard.
/r/MensRights24/09/12 06:24 AM
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I know a guy who married a Japaneese woman. After 10 years of marriage, he finds the absence of physical or emotional intimacy difficult. He tells me this is pretty normal in Japan -- the husband is seen as a money-earner, and that's it. That's it. Once she's turned out a few kids, the wife often stops viewing the husband as anything but a roommate who supplies cash. Did you ever wonder why you see groups of middle-aged Japaneese women on vacation, without their husbands, all over the world? The…
/r/MensRights24/09/12 06:20 AM
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ok, so where are the equivalent programs where men are in the minority?
/r/MensRights22/09/12 04:38 AM
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It's not your money, then, is it.
/r/MensRights22/09/12 04:34 AM
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Shining a bright light on something is the first step to understanding and ultimately resolving it. I think Paul's doing a great job.
/r/MensRights21/09/12 02:27 AM
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You can't bear witness to it. Imagine living it.
/r/MensRights19/09/12 02:06 AM
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You can't bear witness to it. Imagine living it.
/r/MensRights19/09/12 02:06 AM
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Imagine living it.
/r/MensRights19/09/12 02:06 AM
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and everything inbetween
/r/MensRights17/09/12 08:36 AM
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One reference among many To whit: if 86 percent of adolescent suicides were girls, there would be a national commission to find out why. There'd be front-page stories and Oprah shows and nonprofit foundations throwing money at sociologists and psychologists to study female self-destruction. My feminist sisters and I would be asking, rightly, "What's wrong with a culture that drives girls, much more than boys, to take their own lives?" So why aren't we asking what's wrong with a culture that driv…
/r/MensRights15/09/12 05:27 AM
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One reference among many To whit: if 86 percent of adolescent suicides were girls, there would be a national commission to find out why. There'd be front-page stories and Oprah shows and nonprofit foundations throwing money at sociologists and psychologists to study female self-destruction. My feminist sisters and I would be asking, rightly, "What's wrong with a culture that drives girls, much more than boys, to take their own lives?" So why aren't we asking what's wrong with a culture that driv…
/r/MensRights15/09/12 05:27 AM
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only when living in close quarters. Unless there was a national hormone/pheromone distribution and synchronization system created which I'm not aware of. "It's a complex system of tubes..."
/r/MensRights14/09/12 04:16 PM
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Meanwhile, predominantly male problems like suicide are ignored.
/r/MensRights14/09/12 04:12 PM
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In short: Judge a movement by its accomplishments, not its words. Judge a feminist by her/his actions, not their words. Judge N.O.W. by its legislation, not its words.
/r/MensRights13/09/12 06:25 AM
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Use of a firearm in Canada is prohibited, even in self defence, except in narrowly defined circumstances (eg: shooting range, hunting with a license.) IANAL, but I believe pepper spray is classified as a firearm (or something thereabouts). Unless the label says "bear spray"... go figure. Our Canadian overlords take their monopoly over violence very seriously.
/r/MensRights13/09/12 06:21 AM
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Impossible-to-disprove hypotheses. Gotta love'em.
/r/MensRights13/09/12 06:01 AM
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All hail our glorious, er, I mean, horrible moderator!
/r/MensRights13/09/12 06:00 AM
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Even though I don't post as much anymore, I still made the list! I have a warm fuzzy feeling in my stomach :)
/r/MensRights13/09/12 05:56 AM
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I agree
/r/MensRights08/09/12 01:44 AM
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We should also be clear: the obsession with child sexual abuse is not about preventing child abuse. Contemporary society uses child sexual abuse as a pawn in a larger game. Every situation where females are the predominant victim is touted as "The Worst Thing Evar (tm)". When females are the predominant perpetrator or men are the predominant victim, our society downplays or otherwise ignores the issue. The name of the game is: "Men Bad, Women Good"
/r/MensRights07/09/12 03:45 PM
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... because children abused or assaulted in other ways, or neglected to the point of psychological damage, don't matter? ... in a country which sexually assaults and mutilates the genitals of over 10% of its male children? w.t.f.
/r/MensRights07/09/12 01:18 AM
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how kind of you to subject others to a procedure you'd not have done to yourself. In the same breath, you've claimed ownership of yourself and another person (i own anything that grows inside me and comes out of my body) while simultaneously denying others the same right -- ie: the right to their own body (my little cousin had to be circumsized at 10) Hypocrite. Asshole. I pray you have no sons.
/r/MensRights25/08/12 04:18 AM
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how about you leave the decision to the person attached to the genitals you are/not mutilating? Is respect for another human being such a hard concept to grasp? You don't "own" your child. Circumcision is aggravated sexual assault resulting in the amputation and mutilation of healthy tissue. Just because the victim is young doesn't change their reality.
/r/MensRights24/08/12 05:51 AM
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Yes. But the story behind the story is the dehumanization of men. By women and by men themselves. The proto-typical sexy man of today is a parody of most men's lived experiences.
/r/MensRights21/08/12 04:35 AM
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Question: Is it acceptable to restrain someone against their will and, without any painkillers, surgically amputate a body part as they scream in terror and agony? Answer: no, unless the person is male, under the age of consent, and the body part is part of their penis.
/r/MensRights19/08/12 02:19 AM
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"The wise guru does not try to wake people up."
/r/MensRights15/08/12 03:44 AM
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What they say: "Women are more at risk..." What they mean: "After ignoring/excluding people who don't matter (ie: men), women are more at risk..." Judge people by their actions, not their words.
/r/MensRights14/08/12 02:42 AM
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I've long said: the current misandrous legal, social and political atmosphere won't change until there are hungry women begging on every street corner. Because that's what it'll take for men's contribution to become valued. And it will mean that government, and/or the ability to tax men, has failed. I'm not happy about this future; I'm just the messenger.
/r/MensRights05/08/12 11:03 PM
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IE: a father is legally responsible for child support, even if his fatherhood was established in an illegal manner. Conversely, a father has no authority to assume custody if the mother wants to abort, adopt-out, or raise a child on her own. Responsibility without authority = tyranny. Did you notice the "flexible standard" applied to these cases? If the woman wants to abort/adopt/raise, it's her body, her choice. But when it comes time for the man to pay, it's all about the child. This is a core…
/r/MensRights05/08/12 10:49 PM
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...and ignore the prevalence of female sexual predators in the background of rapists and sexually aggressive men.
/r/MensRights03/08/12 03:15 PM
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Move to a different country. Nothing will change here until the situation is so bad even the staunchest feminist is forced to face reality.
/r/MensRights02/08/12 04:33 PM
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Took a bit, but I found it. I'll quote the relevant part below: I used a portable grease board in a room in front of my waiting audience. Without introducing myself or saying anything else, I used a grease pen to write the words “Men are…” at the top of the board, and then silently invited the audience to finish the sentence. Almost invariably, “pigs” or “dogs” was the first offering, accompanied by a room full of good-natured chuckles. I would nod my head and write it down on the board and retu…
/r/MensRights31/07/12 03:37 AM
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Why do you think we call them our "formative" years?
/r/MensRights30/07/12 06:49 AM
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And, frankly, asking a female to look at situations from a male perspective... if they aren't already predisposed to do this, a therapist certificate won't change their views. Let me put this another way: when you see cognitive dissonance in your therapist's eyes, it's not helping you as the patient. Didn't Paul Elam have a story like this? Something about a conference presentation, where he silently wrote "women are... " and "men are..." on a board, and then wrote the adjectives called out by t…
/r/MensRights30/07/12 05:10 AM
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My experience with therapists is: they're great for solving problems women have. If you have a problem unique to men or masculinity.... good luck finding a therapist who doesn't think your masculinity is the problem (because that's what all the textbooks say.)
/r/MensRights30/07/12 04:53 AM
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And men are far less likely than women to tackle problems by getting off their keisters and seeking a real doctor for help. Yeah, something about getting your dick sliced up leaves a lasting impression regarding 'real doctors'. Go figure.
/r/MensRights30/07/12 04:37 AM
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she is definitely not a supremacist, merely someone who devotes her focus on women's rights. Nice, and irrelevant. Judge a person, and a movement, by their actions and accomplishments, not their words.
/r/MensRights30/07/12 04:33 AM
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Your friend's mistake: believing his father's verbal response was his genuine reason. IE: "clean", "UTI prevention", "cancer prevention", "STD prevention"... these are all rationalizations, not reasons. They're cover stories.
/r/MensRights27/07/12 02:18 AM
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because screen caps are iron-clad evidence \s
/r/MensRights24/07/12 06:35 AM
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People have the power to hold stupid, harmful beliefs. People also have the power to not debate you, and not change their hateful beliefs. If you seek to change people's minds, you'll have to go the extra distance. For example, you might record links to your favourite statistics so you can quickly quote them in your discussions. This might sound like a lot of work -- and it is -- but fortunately you'll keep coming up against the same idiotic ideas over, and over, and over again. So your referenc…
/r/MensRights24/07/12 06:31 AM
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Any discussion about men which involves females or feminist males will eventually become a discussion about what women want from men. Donovan's Law. I like it. It explains so much. It explains how even hardened feminist like Tom Matlack or Warren Farrell, if they genuinely respect and acknowledge men's humanity, will eventually be undermined and rejected by feminism.
/r/MensRights24/07/12 02:11 AM
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try acting stoic and bottling everything for a while. Keep telling yourself, "if I tell them how I feel, they will abandon/ridicule/attack me." Give it a shot for a few months. Shouldn't be a problem... considering we live it our entire lives. The first woman to emotionally push-away, isolate and ridicule men in the west is, usually, our mothers.
/r/MensRights24/07/12 01:58 AM
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... and were promptly removed from the gene pool.
/r/MensRights22/07/12 05:55 PM
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Not directly related to sentencing, but you may find some useful references in The Invisible Boy Relevant Excerpt: there is an alarmingly high rate of sexual abuse by females in the backgrounds of rapists, sex offenders and sexually aggressive men – 59% (Petrovich and Templer, 1984), 66% (Groth, 1979) and 80% (Briere and Smiljanich, 1993). A strong case for the need to identify female perpetrators can be found in Table 4, which presents the findings from a study of adolescent sex offenders by O’…
/r/MensRights22/07/12 05:46 PM
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Or how about those games where you fight, and slaughter, wave upon wave of mostly men. We see this in moves too. The nameless man dying his expendable and regret-less death.
/r/MensRights22/07/12 05:39 PM
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Thugtician was active a couple years back.
/r/MensRights19/07/12 02:28 AM
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Are you sure? [citation needed] /kidding
/r/MensRights17/07/12 02:30 AM
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The attempt to paint this as incideous and linking it to the sex industry and domestic violence is revolting. And a typical strategy, to be expected from western female power centers. This should be added to the The Catalog of Anti-Male Shaming Tactics
/r/MensRights17/07/12 02:28 AM
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Upvoted for even feminists are citing these things like, "Why aren't men living up to the ideal that 'the patriarchy' pushes onto them?!" lol
/r/MensRights16/07/12 03:37 PM
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In law, you can't break the law and then claim innocence because someone made you / paid you to do it. EG: person A hires hitman B to kill C. Both A and B are guilty of crimes. In the case of circumcision, the surgeon/mohel/etc cannot relinquish their legal and moral responsibilities simply because the parents said its ok. At the end of the day they're cutting into the flesh of an unwilling victim for no medical reason.
/r/MensRights16/07/12 03:32 PM
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You glossed right over the important part. Important to the Sarkeesians of the world, that is. Let's look a little closer... With bodies that aren't even physically possible? It's a fantasy. Yes, a MALE fantasy, but still, not real. Look closer... It's a fantasy. Yes, a MALE fantasy, but still, not real. closer... a MALE fantasy closer... MALE Bingo.
/r/MensRights15/07/12 06:55 PM
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yep.
/r/MensRights12/07/12 08:43 AM
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You can kill someone by punching them in the nose.
/r/MensRights12/07/12 01:53 AM
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So? We're seeking rights because we feel sorry for a newborn that has to go through "unnecessary" pain? That 'pain' is so severe, it regularly causes projectile vomiting, breath apnoea and unconsciousness. The results of infant circumcision 'pain' can be detected in 30-year-old men using a standard psychology test for PTSD. Using an MRI, we can see the changes in brain structure resulting from circumcision trauma. You obviously have a profound disregard for other people's suffering... and your o…
/r/MensRights09/07/12 06:56 AM
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we know this. the guards know it, the judges know it, everyone knows it. but we might lie about it so we can keep doing it to more and more people. Because people like to hurt people.
/r/MensRights07/07/12 01:28 AM
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Men have a right to go their own way. When I read this, I roughly translate it to, "Men have a right to personal autonomy". Who says such a thing? Isn't this self-evident? Evidently not to the author. Personal autonomy is not self-evident to one who believes man is a slave to be owned and controlled. The author has more correcting to do, in their own mind.
/r/MensRights06/07/12 10:16 AM
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free speech is a bitch. deal with it. Edit: if reddit starts taking down subreddits, who do you think is near the top of the list? That's right. /r/MensRights.
/r/MensRights06/07/12 02:21 AM
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FTA: The basis for the measures of a society must be an unconditional respect for the bodily integrity of an under-aged person. Circumcision intervenes in the sexual integrity of a male child causing a permanent change in organisms and has consequences pertaining to both health and quality of life. The circumcision of girls is rightly considered as inhuman mutilation of the genitals and is punished abuse. Also boys must be guaranteed a similar protection by law.
/r/MensRights05/07/12 01:51 PM
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yeah, good luck getting them to follow through on that 'anti-men' part.
/r/MensRights05/07/12 01:00 AM
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In this video I see a relatively unresponsive baby dealing with the lingering effects from physical and psychological trauma, a woman desperate to convince herself of something (that she's a good person, that she didn't just violate and gruesomely harm another human being), an a man who doesn't know what the fuck is going on.
/r/MensRights04/07/12 02:18 PM
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no idea if I'm alpha or beta Both. Are you left or right handed? But... does your off-hand still work? Could you learn to use it if you practiced it more?
/r/MensRights03/07/12 03:29 PM
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I'm just talking about physiological phenomenon. You claim you're uncut. Get some medical tape and tape your foreskin back, allowing your entire glans and frenulum to be exposed. To your underwear, bed sheets, everything. Leave it like that for a few days. You probably think "ouch". But you get used to it, right? Yes... by your penis becoming less sensitive. OH JOY! But it never goes away. It's always uncomfortable. And another thing... the glans, when its uncovered, I swear it sends a signal to…
/r/MensRights03/07/12 05:47 AM
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Uncomfortable. Permanently uncomfortable. Like a spike hammered into the back of my brain. And I can never get it out.
/r/MensRights03/07/12 04:50 AM
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A problem we've had in /r/MR is people posting a fake self-text, getting a bunch of responses, then changing the original self-text to a new one which makes us look like a bunch of assholes. To protect against this, someone wrote our friendly rightsbot to capture the original text and prevent this type of scam.
/r/MensRights29/06/12 04:52 AM
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A problem we've had in /r/MR is people posting a fake self-text, getting a bunch of responses, then changing the original self-text to a new one which makes us look like a bunch of assholes. To protect against this, someone wrote our friendly rightsbot to capture the original text and prevent this type of scam. Thank you rightsbot, you're the best. Have an upvote on me.
/r/MensRights29/06/12 04:51 AM
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claimed that the court was banning the circumcision of all males this is a common tactic of the pro-genital-mutilation camp: to distract from the real issue of the genital mutilation and torture of infants, legal minors and non-consenting victims.
/r/MensRights27/06/12 02:43 PM
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European Jewish Association denounces German court ruling against genital mutilation as ‘brutal attack on freedom of religion’ ADL: German Parliament Should Act To Protect Genital Mutilation As Religious Practice "Ritual" Genital Mutilation Ban Raises Specter of German Hate War on Genital Mutilation Spreads to Germany, Norway Outraged German Jews slam court for prohibiting genital mutilation FTFY
/r/MensRights27/06/12 07:42 AM
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subconscious or unconscious trolling? I think you've found a PhD thesis topic, mate.
/r/MensRights26/06/12 03:25 AM
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it's getting to where even the trolls don't know if they're trolling.
/r/MensRights26/06/12 01:08 AM
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paraphimosis This is an excellent example. Careful, minimal incisions are sufficient to alleviate any tightness in the foreskin. Amputation is never required for phimosis or paraphimosis. ... except in cases where the doctor likes to amputate people's genitals.
/r/MensRights25/06/12 09:00 AM
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The "medical benefits" argument is disengenious and inane because there are medical benefits to just about EVERYTHING you could do to an infant. Cut off their legs? No cancer down there! Remove their scalp, no need for haircuts (or that dirty dust-collecting mop on the head). Eyeballs? Yank them out, no need for glasses!! See how stupid this all sounds? That's how the "medical benefits" arguments sound to people who don't live in a genital-mutilation culture. And this also explains why people wh…
/r/MensRights25/06/12 06:22 AM
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You said "males have the most sensitive part removed". Really? Cause that's not what they did to me at all, they only removed the foreskin. Are we talking about the same thing? You obviously know little of the male foreskin. Here are some of those scientific studies you wanted... "The prepuce", British Journal of Urology, Volume 83, Suppl. 1: Pages 34-44, January 1999. The prepuce is primary, erogenous tissue necessary for normal sexual function [8]. The complex interaction between the protopath…
/r/MensRights24/06/12 06:47 AM
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I hope it's all I need. If that were true, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
/r/MensRights23/06/12 09:49 PM
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people often claim circumcision doesn't hurt. Or if it hurts, the baby doesn't remember. Or if they remember, they're just wimps. Or something. Always a reason. There's always a reason to cut off someone else's genitals.
/r/MensRights23/06/12 09:48 PM
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Infant genital mutilators: always on the lookout for the flimsiest excuse to continue their for-profit and grotesque perversion. circumcision is not justified for the sole purpose of protecting against penile cancer Good on you, Cancer Council Australia. Thank you for taking a stand against this barbaric practice. Taking into account these issues, the relatively lower burden of potentially preventable disease in Australia, and the complex cultural, ethical and legal issues surrounding the practi…
/r/MensRights23/06/12 09:44 PM
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babies are really, really small. It doesn't take much blood loss for them to bleed to death. Like on the order of a couple tablespoons.
/r/MensRights23/06/12 10:50 AM
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I believe the terms "alpha" and "beta" have value, but let's not pretend any given man is only alpha or beta. They are clusters of behaviour and male attributes which appeal to different parts of the female psyche.
/r/MensRights23/06/12 06:21 AM
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and this is the frightful and underestimated power of MGTOW and MRM... people (mostly men) come to their own conclusions without any influence or coordination from a central body or theory (ala feminism). There is no way for the mainstream culture to manage this, no central body to fight and destroy, unless they somehow control our ability to reason.
/r/MensRights23/06/12 06:09 AM
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Yeah, they only attack those who are defenseless and unable to fight back or call for help.
/r/MensRights21/06/12 06:48 AM
7

Take-away: lying to the ignorant masses works, even in cases of brutal body mutilation.
/r/MensRights21/06/12 06:47 AM
1

The lack of consideration and respect in society of men's contribution, male sexuality, and men as human beings. If we respected men, most of the other problems would resolve themselves. For example, human beings don't amputate the genitals from people they respect.
/r/MensRights20/06/12 09:21 PM
2

false comparison.
/r/MensRights20/06/12 06:42 AM
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... just be sure to leave the door open and have at least one other adult in the room at all times. Yeah, we get it.
/r/MensRights20/06/12 03:32 AM
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Except we don't place women in STEM fields at the constant risk of career-ending false-accusations of sexual misconduct by attention-seeking minors.
/r/MensRights20/06/12 01:27 AM
4

Why is our legal system (specifically referring to Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada, but I have heard of similarities across North America) so tailored towards women that we forget basic rights like 'innocent until proven guilty'? Because the power elite know they can bribe women to enslave men, and we haven't had a revolution in a while?
/r/MensRights18/06/12 05:57 AM
1

Also, raging on mothers isn't a national-sport-de-jour
/r/MensRights17/06/12 10:08 PM
1

Why can't ppl figure this out themselves? It's like explaining the concepts of 'consideration' and 'respect' to a kindergartener.
/r/MensRights17/06/12 08:31 PM
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On the topic of suicide attempts: Our statistics on attempted-suicide are suspect at best. There is no reporting requirement for suicide attempts. You cannot say women attempt suicide more than men because we don't know. All we know is that female suicide attempts are reported at a higher rate than male suicide attempts. One paper I read estimates that male suicide attempts are reported 3-times less frequently than female suicide attempts -- if this is true, men attempt suicide more than women. …
/r/MensRights17/06/12 04:02 PM
2

Those people aren't healthy. Drop the class, take another. I mean, if you really want to stay in a den of insensitive, bigoted vipers, fine. But don't lie to yourself or us about what you're doing. IE: don't come tell us how irrational they are -- we know, we deal with them in our own lives every day; at my work they're called 'Human Resources Department' -- but do come tell us how you fared against them. You are a brave man facing them like that.
/r/MensRights17/06/12 03:48 PM
2

TL;DR: the author has no concept of the nature of grass roots movements
/r/MensRights17/06/12 03:44 PM
1

Before jumping to such conclusions, I suggest we consider what a up/down vote represents. Your argument above assumes we examine every post carefully, evaluate it rationally regarding its adherence to some set of internally-consistent criteria, and then we vote accordingly. I don't believe this is true.
/r/MensRights17/06/12 03:30 PM
1

you cannot force people to be rational, fair or just. We all have the power to be assholes.
/r/MensRights17/06/12 03:22 PM
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This article seems a bit like sour grapes. Why is it... why does male sexuality only get discussed when there's a problem with it? Hmmm? Where was Psychology Today when feminism was killing off stable relationships and atomic families? The author based this entire article on a few anecdotes. We in the MRM get slammed for using anecdotes all the time. The MRM can't even get our issues on the table when the research and stats are clearly in our favor, like male suicide. This article sounds like an…
/r/MensRights15/06/12 06:10 AM
2

Travel. Meet some actually honest-to-god feminine women in other parts of the world. You may just find you have an attraction to them you've never had to western women.
/r/MensRights15/06/12 05:22 AM
1

Perhaps, but I was referring to private clinics.
/r/MensRights15/06/12 01:06 AM
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I have struggled with a lot of people's denial. It's the same every time. The same lies. The same ignorance of basic human anatomy. The same refusal to look at facts. All the research we've done in early childhood brain development... magically doesn't apply to circumcision. All the research we have regarding the effects of early childhood trauma ... magically doesn't apply to circumcision. All the research regarding the importance of early mother-child bonding... is magically irrelevant if the …
/r/MensRights14/06/12 06:35 AM
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Rates in Canada peaked around 1970 at 80-90% and have dropped to 10-15% today (we suspect... we don't know because they are usually done outside of hospitals and there is no reporting requirement). Rates in the USA have dropped since their peak, but remain around 50% today.
/r/MensRights14/06/12 06:25 AM
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q.e.d.
/r/MensRights14/06/12 06:13 AM
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To the apologists who claim the disproportionate male suicide rate is due to suicide method or otherwise unworthy of concern, I add the following: Boys commit 86 percent of all adolescent suicides. Eighty-six percent. ... "As much as I would love to lead the charge (in finding out why boys kill themselves), try to go out and get funding for it," said Lanny Berman, the executive director of the [American Association of Suicidology]. He is frustrated that funders aren't interested in studying boys…
/r/MensRights14/06/12 05:56 AM
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the same argument applies to female genital mutilation, child abuse, child neglect, and any number of horrific things people have done, and continue to do to their children. You're an idiot.
/r/MensRights14/06/12 05:49 AM
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what's funny... you actually believe you hold rational beliefs and act reasonably. Your view is not rational, reasonable, or compassionate. Your opinion is not backed by fact, medical or otherwise. But common; your opinion is very common. (btw I did not downvote you)
/r/MensRights14/06/12 04:34 AM
4

If you are genuinely interested, there are good links on the following reddits: /r/circumcision /r/againstcircumcision
/r/MensRights14/06/12 01:22 AM
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On the unreasonable scale, tying down an infant and cutting off their genitals is orders of magnitude more unreasonable than Reddit's hate for the practice.
/r/MensRights14/06/12 01:21 AM
1

Canada: best horse in the glue factory?
/r/MensRights13/06/12 02:55 PM
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I'm sorry your cut, and taunting was never my intention. My remark was not written for you. It was written for the future mothers and fathers out there who believe, "I was hurt, therefore I will hurt my children." This is, sadly, a very human response to child abuse. I'm cut. I don't talk to my parents anymore, in part, because of their indifference to my feelings and the long-term consequences they saddled me with.
/r/MensRights13/06/12 02:54 PM
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FTA: circumcised men are 4.5 times more likely to have issues with erectile dysfunction. Most American men are circumcised. They make up 5% of the world's population yet are responsible for 46% of Viagra sales. Impotence in adult males can be a direct consequence of circumcision. Que the "I'm cut and I'm happy" denialists.
/r/MensRights13/06/12 02:46 AM
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How do we get this information into the hands of this asshole's clients?
/r/MensRights13/06/12 02:27 AM
1

Alternative conclusion: tall men are more likely to use OKCupid. Corollary: tall men are more like to believe they will find someone on OKCupid.
/r/MensRights13/06/12 02:19 AM
1

Canada: best horse in the glue factory? For example, we still love to carve up little baby dicks.
/r/MensRights13/06/12 02:06 AM
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sex with brother-in-law, for example = kid looks like dad
/r/MensRights12/06/12 03:37 AM
3

Some of the editors of Wikipedia feel the MRM is without legitimacy. Queue some feminist-leaning contributors taking it upon themselves to fix the MR page... Some MR people trying to restore it in response...
/r/MensRights11/06/12 03:40 PM
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I don't know. But those in the browser biz are not in the dictionary biz; they probably just grabbed a dictionary product off the (open-source) market and went with it.
/r/MensRights11/06/12 03:37 PM
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mothers spend significantly more time on parenting duties than fathers do on average Yeah because all those things like food, shelter and safety that fathers typically provide.... we don't need that shit. And they're definitely not related to parenting or raising children. Nice way to downplay and disregard men's contribution to a family. Nice way to take men for granted.
/r/MensRights11/06/12 03:23 PM
2

They tell lies because... they work :(
/r/MensRights09/06/12 05:09 PM
1

We can only speculate. But its undeniable that our society treats men with far more suspicion than women w.r.t. children. Which is why articles like this, while good, sound hollow to me. IE: don't ask me to help, don't tell me all the ways children need men, if you [the charity] is not going to also help address the misandry in society. For example, as a man, I'm no longer willing to assume all the risk and suffering if one soccer-mom decides to have a tizzy. And that's the thing. From charities…
/r/MensRights07/06/12 01:39 AM
2

So it seems like your opinion is that since women's rights activists do not deal with every men's right issue you resent them? I don't resent them; it's something else. There is history to it. I, and many other men, have experienced the following conversation with people, particularly women who self-identify as feminists: Me: "Men's Rights" Her: "Why are you being so unreasonable? There's no reason to start a separate movement. All men's issues can be addressed through feminism. " Me: "You mean …
/r/MensRights07/06/12 01:30 AM
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Their advertising may be poor. But then... how did all those female befrienders discover the charity?
/r/MensRights06/06/12 02:33 PM
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and, I don't know, maybe drop the whole helecopter-mom pedo-hysteria thing?
/r/MensRights06/06/12 02:31 PM
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Presumed guilty until proven female.
/r/MensRights06/06/12 02:29 PM
2

when you click in the search box in the top right, the box will enlarge and give you an option to search only within that one reddit. Or you can go to Advanced search options.
/r/MensRights06/06/12 03:33 AM
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Checkout /r/egalitarian It seems you'll fit right in.... in your omission of issues like the male-only draft, demonisation of masculinity, belittling of fatherhood, male genital mutilation, the glass floor, pedo-hysteria, etc. Case in point: search for the word "draft" in multiple reddits: femmit = 0 results twoX = 0 results oneY = 1 result feminisms = 3 results, only one of which appears relevant egalitarian = 3 results (!!! progress?) MensRights = 44 results Do you see a pattern?
/r/MensRights06/06/12 01:30 AM
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because women will complain and be taken seriously. and men, even if they were to complain, likely wouldn't be listened to.
/r/MensRights06/06/12 01:06 AM
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Yup. You're not alone.
/r/MensRights06/06/12 01:03 AM
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I think it's pretty clear that on average MGM is less severe. according to the facts you've been exposed to. I daresay you've probably never investigated the issue. You think the worst FGM is worse than the worst MGM. But we have the word "Eunuch" in our language, but no equivalent female term. Yes, there are practical reasons. But honestly, do you believe any Castrato would have volunteered if they understood the long-term implications for their life? If they were given the information they nee…
/r/MensRights05/06/12 03:03 PM
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Another point is that infant male genital mutilation would probably be less psychologically harmful in the long term .... Your opinion in this regard is not supported by the evidence. For just one example: This article describes the present status of neonatal circumcision in the United States and presents clinical findings regarding the long-term somatic, emotional, and psychological consequences of this procedure in adult men. These consequences are seen as typical of complex post traumatic str…
/r/MensRights05/06/12 02:59 PM
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You wrote a post and then erased everything and completely rewrote it. Yeah sorry about that. I should start composing my replies in notepad or something. I did not mean to change my post on you like that.
/r/MensRights05/06/12 02:51 PM
1

I agree. This is an issue only because B&N can't hide (unlike the coward who complained in the first place.) But it's nice to see B&N being held accountable. This episode gives B&N staff and others support to say "go stuff yourself" to the next village idiot.
/r/MensRights05/06/12 02:07 PM
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"In related news, magazine stands making a comeback..." Future business opportunity? For all those B&N managers?
/r/MensRights05/06/12 02:03 PM
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You know what I find interesting? Real victims of female genital cutting feel no need to downplay the harm of male genital cutting, or elevate FGM as somehow more worthy of concern. Examples: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/jnbr6/confessions_of_a_circumcised_woman_xpost_from/ http://infocirc.blogspot.ca/2009/06/intact-america-has-first-official-press.html These women who suffered FGM, in all its horror, feel no compulsion to claim "the vast majority of MGM (regular circumcision proce…
/r/MensRights05/06/12 01:46 PM
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People who claim MGM is not comparable to FGM or is not barbaric fall into one or more of the following camps: ignorant and/or in denial (eg: male-harm-denier) sadist (psychosexual or otherwise) self-serving professional and/or economic agenda
/r/MensRights05/06/12 06:08 AM
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or much attention from social workers, police, psychologists, judges, the criminal justice system or the public at large.
/r/MensRights04/06/12 03:03 PM
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What they said: One in two Muslim boys circumcised in an Islamic school in Oxford ended up with medical problems What they didn't say: One in one circumcised boys ended up with life-long psychological problems and significantly decreased sexual sensation as an adult. You see, they don't consider psychological or sexual problems as "medical" problems. When doctors are quoted about circumcision, particularly surgeons, they almost always say there are no medical side effects. Newsflash: there are n…
/r/MensRights03/06/12 05:23 PM
5

All circumcisions are botched.
/r/MensRights03/06/12 05:21 PM
13

Yup. You're not alone.
/r/MensRights02/06/12 05:56 AM
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This part cracked me up... but not, methinks, for the reason the audience found it funny... Woman: "I think, very much, [today's young men] are much more willing to engage in these conversations, but they still don't come here." Rosin: "Right." Woman: "And, why not? So that's the question I want to pose." Rosin: "Maybe we shouldn't call these things 'Women in Leadership' anymore. Maybe that's... They're certainly not going to come to my talk, called 'The End of Men'"
/r/MensRights01/06/12 04:40 AM
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Let's not forget... the active role women play to keep men bottled up: In summer 1984, I was invited because of my op-eds to visit a meeting of the local Father's Rights chapter. ... Later that summer two members out of 35 committed suicide, one by pouring gasoline on himself. ... One of our biggest problems was the Second Wives. Later, we discovered that any second wife who came to meetings eventually divorced her husband, one hundred percent of the time. The Second Wives were clearly there to …
/r/MensRights29/05/12 08:30 AM
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From the comments: Hi Ms. Feuer, I am a science teacher, independent AIDS researcher, and human rights activist. It is deeply disturbing to me that your organization is promoting male genital cutting (MGC) for HIV prevention. Based on my research, promoting MGC will only further the African AIDS crisis, both among men and women. I beg you to reconsider your policy positions and adopt a new approach to fighting AIDS that does not involve amputation of healthy, erogenous tissue. Your organization …
/r/MensRights28/05/12 02:37 PM
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You have normalized male genital mutilation. We get it. We don't agree with you. Let's use another analogy: what would you say about a group of people who chop off the left hand of their children. Would you say it's their right as parents to do this? That the babies can't consent because they're babies! You're saying "this is the way it is today." and we're saying "the way it is today must change".
/r/MensRights27/05/12 10:01 PM
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The right to a whole body is considered a "human right". So... you don't believe in human rights? Interesting.
/r/MensRights27/05/12 09:57 PM
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Yeah. Like, what school of logic does she subscribe to, exactly?
/r/MensRights27/05/12 09:48 PM
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When the author says "equality", I think she means "female supremacy". And it's not controversial so much as simply hateful.
/r/MensRights27/05/12 09:42 PM
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This is an awesome comparison. Both cases deal with the issues of respect for a person's autonomy and bodily integrity.
/r/MensRights27/05/12 05:18 AM
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the difference between us is I backup my opinions with facts and scientific data. you back up your opinions with bias, denial, and "mom told me so, therefore it must be".
/r/MensRights26/05/12 10:04 PM
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I don't feel it is mutilation. That's fortunate for you. Unfortunately for the thousands of babies assaulted each year, their lived experience doesn't take your feelings into consideration. Their lived experience says otherwise. And another thing: 'mutilation' is both an accurate and appropriate term for describing circumcision.
/r/MensRights26/05/12 08:16 PM
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In my mind, I take two populations -- say Europe and America. In one, 80% of the adult population had life-long PTSD and trauma-related psychological problems resulting from neonatal genital mutilation; the other population does not. I believe these two populations will in fact behave rather differently on many of the issues you cite. You can bury your head in the sand all you want; reality and mother nature don't give a rat's ass how you feel.
/r/MensRights26/05/12 08:15 PM
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It wasn't that long ago the Province of British Columbia paid doctors to mutilate the genitals of infants. We're as bad as the rest.
/r/MensRights26/05/12 12:12 AM
2

Here is a journal article on the legal consequences of paternity (+), regardless of whether sex was coerced or forced. To whit: The lesson one can take from Frisard is simple: a man is strictly liable for where his sperm ends up when he voluntarily engages in a sexual act. The lesson one must take from S.F. v. T.M., however, is somewhat troubling: a man is strictly liable for where his sperm ends up even when he unknowingly and involuntarily engages in a sexual act. Instead of comparing the fath…
/r/MensRights25/05/12 01:41 PM
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I believe male genital mutilation is the epitome of scorn, disrespect and disregard for men, masculinity, male sexuality and men's lived experience. It's not what male genital mutilation is, rather what male genital mutilation represents. It's what male genital mutilation says about our so-called society.
/r/MensRights24/05/12 01:49 PM
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dude, 85% of the men in the world are not circumcised. The circumcised in a few backward nations are the minority.
/r/MensRights24/05/12 04:36 AM
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Tell her "no man hates his parents' fucking guts because they didn't circumcise him." But plenty circumcised men feel rage towards their parents and society because of their physical mutilation and psychological scarring. More than one man has stopped talking to their parents altogether once they fully learn what was done to them. Circumcision is the greatest of betrayals. Does your wife want to risk betraying and alienating your son? She gets to decide today, but your son gets to decide how he …
/r/MensRights24/05/12 01:22 AM
3

Based on historical precedent, things won't change until they become catastrophic.
/r/MensRights24/05/12 01:04 AM
1

Sounds like a losing strategy, dunnit.
/r/MensRights24/05/12 01:02 AM
2

This guy was a MGTOW for 10-15 years before coming in contact with the so-called "MRM". He's not alone.
/r/MensRights21/05/12 08:52 PM
2

The comments of such articles look more and more like /r/MensRights
/r/MensRights20/05/12 04:32 PM
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less important are the questions. More important is creating an environment where they feel they can trust you and the others in the group enough that that speak honestly and openly. good luck with that.
/r/MensRights20/05/12 05:42 AM
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In the end, porn doesn't whet men's appetites—it turns them off the real thing. No, darling, you're doing that with your asshole attitude and denigration of anything male.
/r/MensRights20/05/12 01:55 AM
2

Bravo!
/r/MensRights19/05/12 10:25 PM
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You need to read Confessions of a Circumcised Woman. Also read the words of Soraya Miré, a woman circumcised as a pre-teen child, and how she relates to male genital mutilation. These are not hypothetical victims like in your description. These are real, living, breathing female victims of genital mutilation. And they recognize MGM and FGM are fundamentally the same.
/r/MensRights19/05/12 04:44 PM
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You need to read Confessions of a Circumcised Woman. Also read the words of Soraya Miré, a woman circumcised as a pre-teen child, and how she relates to male genital mutilation. These are not hypothetical victims like in your description. These are real, living, breathing female victims of genital mutilation. And they recognize MGM and FGM are fundamentally the same. Please educate yourself.
/r/MensRights19/05/12 04:39 PM
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I'm no expert on Asian culture, but I can guarantee its used for far more than just "don't break the law". Perhaps someone more knowledgeable of Asian culture can share their experiences with us?
/r/MensRights19/05/12 03:42 PM
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I see your Queensland Criminal Code, and raise you the Criminal Code of Canada: For greater certainty, in this section, “wounds” or “maims” includes to excise, infibulate or mutilate, in whole or in part, the labia majora, labia minora or clitoris of a person No mention of male sexual anatomy nor protection for it therein. This from a country which once mutilated 80% of its male children and continues today to mutilate 10-20%.
/r/MensRights19/05/12 03:37 PM
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Your society is attempting to control your behavior through your emotions. In this case, they are using shame. If you want to see a higher-level use of shame in society, look at East Asian cultures such as Japan. I shared your sense of guilt for much of my life. And it took me a lot of work to get over it. It sounds like you're on a similar path, starting with awareness. People in other cultures do not feel shame for their skin color or their sex.
/r/MensRights19/05/12 03:27 PM
4

Responsibility without authority is called tyranny. Telling a guy he should have "kept it in his pants" in the face of a woman who decided to go off birth control is a form of tyranny: it's telling the guy to accept responsibility when he had no authority over whether the woman lied about taking birth control pills. If effective male birth control were available, men would gain back some authority over the situation. The claim "keep it in your pants" would gain intellectual honesty; he would act…
/r/MensRights18/05/12 03:08 PM
2

FTA: Where it concerns the modern men’s movement, we are thankful for the rising chorus of cogent and articulate female voices that have risen above the rote programming in order to point at the misandric elephant in the living room. ... But we must remember, as we are so plainly reminded by this Boston Globe excerpt, that it is the male voice that must change and be heard.
/r/MensRights18/05/12 01:46 AM
3

r/MensRights what is your opinion of moderate feminists? Irrelevant. The forces churning out MRAs are unaffected by moderate feminists. Unless they give up their sexist label and start acting like egalitarians, they won't make a difference. Moderate feminists will stand idly by while men become more and more disenfranchised.
/r/MensRights18/05/12 01:36 AM
18

Nobody deserves indentured servitude. I'm sorry, man.
/r/MensRights17/05/12 03:14 PM
1

I just see lots of risks in all areas of life and place a high value on sex and relationships. My above arguments still stand. Except, as you say, when you run the equation in your head, FAMILY has a much greater reward factor and is therefore worthy of greater risk in pursuit of it. I just feel bad because I know how wonderful certain things are in life You're not the only one. Let me give you a stark example of why I'm here: I believe I have an idea of how wonderful, intimate, pleasurable and …
/r/MensRights17/05/12 03:02 PM
1

Why would family = loss of all freedom? Divorce, family court, parental alienation, etc. where do sexual/physical relationships fit You still don't get it. Go back to my previous post and replace FAMILY with SEXUAL_PHYSICAL_RELATIONSHIP. Almost nobody wants to give up family or relationships. This course of action was not our Plan-A. Or Plan-B. It's more like Plan-Z. But its the only plan we have left after we've lost the respect of our female partners and our governments show little fear in abu…
/r/MensRights16/05/12 02:47 PM
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question: how many online dating profiles are fake?
/r/MensRights16/05/12 02:42 PM
1

Let me oversimply what I believe to be your argument so we can take a closer look at it: Let's say kids and relationship = FAMILY. Let's say other things worth living for in life (friends, passions, freedom, joy of being alive) = FREEDOM We can probably agree that if a person seeks FAMILY, then there is a X% probability that bad things happen and that person's FREEDOM is lost. Ok. For what value of X% does a man decide the loss of FREEDOM is not worth the benefit of FAMILY? For what value of X% …
/r/MensRights16/05/12 12:32 AM
3

You almost make a good point. Here is where your analogy fails: Should women avoid men because they have the potential to rape them? Should girls stay away from boys because they have the potential to overpower and beat them up? The difference is that rape is illegal and society actively condemns it. We throw men in jail who do that shit. Same for overpowering and beating up. We have socially-funded organizations actively campaigning against rape. Whereas losing one's children in divorce, child …
/r/MensRights15/05/12 02:07 AM
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It's not judgemental, it's an honest risk-reward evaluation. The author doesn't judge women on their value as a person. The author doesn't say "women should or should not do XYZ". The author judges a woman according to the risk-reward for him when deciding how much energy to invest in a relationship with said woman. GirlWritesWhat accurately said, and it bears repeating since so many people don't understand it: "What men want matters." Also relevant, but I can't remember who said it: "women cont…
/r/MensRights15/05/12 01:56 AM
2

I completely disagree. For example: What is the psychology behind a person/society which casts such a strong double-standard and, in many cases, imposes a demonstrably unjust and unacceptable predicament for men. To whit: why should a man whose seed was taken through criminal activity and without his will (for example, while unconscious) be bound to child support to a woman/child who had all the agency in the situation? She is responsible for the child, he is not. Yet our society's collective ps…
/r/MensRights15/05/12 01:38 AM
2

You may be interested in the strict liability theory of fatherhood. (Volume 11, No. 1 of Divorce Litigation, a publication of National Legal Research Group, Charlottesville, Virginia.) From the article: The lesson one can take from Frisard is simple: a man is strictly liable for where his sperm ends up when he voluntarily engages in a sexual act. The lesson one must take from S.F. v. T.M., however, is somewhat troubling: a man is strictly liable for where his sperm ends up even when he unknowing…
/r/MensRights14/05/12 06:42 AM
2

This article reflects the part of contemporary culture which reduces all of humanity and human relations to a woman's sexual experience. This isn't just gynocentrism, it's female-sexuality-and-nothing-else-ism.
/r/MensRights13/05/12 03:48 PM
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I don't personally agree with the way you get your message known, You misunderstand. /r/mensrights isn't an activist center, it's triage. The people getting our message out is society in general. Every day, parents, schools, media, women and men send the message to boys and men. Men figure it out for themselves and end up here.
/r/MensRights13/05/12 04:19 AM
3

lol, quite the show, people telling men what to do until the bitter end, after shovelling shit into their lives decade after decade...
/r/MensRights13/05/12 03:03 AM
2

You don't get it. The undercurrent to this discussion goes like this: Men: paternity and fears of paternity fraud are important issues for us You: Your concerns are unfounded. A paltry 2% of children are not their father's. Who are you to come in here and tell us what is important to us? And who are you to decide that 2% or any% is worthy of our concern? 2% of the world's population is Russian, and they're considered a respectably large country. 0.2% of the USA population lives with AIDS and tha…
/r/MensRights12/05/12 03:28 PM
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High school used to do blood tests in science class. They stopped because too many students were discovered it was genetically impossible to be the offspring of their "father", based on the blood type of themselves and their father. 'nuf said.
/r/MensRights12/05/12 12:24 AM
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I bet but you don't know. That's what research is for. Regardless, injustice is injustice. When it's so common that everyone has 1st or 2nd hand experience, I think we can conclude its common enough to worry about.
/r/MensRights09/05/12 05:33 AM
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You're ignorant, a liar, a troll, or some combination thereof.
/r/MensRights09/05/12 05:21 AM
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You are not alone.
/r/MensRights09/05/12 05:20 AM
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Modern western society: the best MRA recruitment system ever built.
/r/MensRights09/05/12 05:15 AM
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I don't understand why I'm getting downvotes... It's reddit. Everyone gets downvotes. Thanks for your story. I'm sorry you had to go through that.
/r/MensRights09/05/12 05:10 AM
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This is despite You think the pro-genital-mutilation camp doesn't know they're lying? You think they're merely misinformed?!
/r/MensRights08/05/12 05:41 AM
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Some things deserve the bright light of honesty shone directly upon them.
/r/MensRights08/05/12 05:28 AM
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I'm curious to know if anyone here had their children's genitals mutilated to deprive their children of sexual pleasure as adults. I know the general consensus is against it, but did anyone choose to? I'm not looking to fault anyone for their beliefs, just wondering if anyone did and why. FTFY
/r/MensRights08/05/12 04:39 AM
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Legal precedence: The Strict Liability of Paternity The lesson one can take from Frisard is simple: a man is strictly liable for where his sperm ends up when he voluntarily engages in a sexual act. The lesson one must take from S.F. v. T.M., however, is somewhat troubling: a man is strictly liable for where his sperm ends up even when he unknowingly and involuntarily engages in a sexual act. Instead of comparing the father's predicament with the mother's predicament in Division of Child Support …
/r/MensRights08/05/12 03:39 AM
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fantastic! FTA: I’ve urged close friends before to step outside their cultural box and to really look at the practice. It’s hard. It’s hard when you’ve already had a baby boy circumcised. It’s hard when your husband is circumcised. To admit that it’s anything like FGM in Africa is like admitting there is something wrong about what we do. That there is something really wrong with the way the men in our life were treated. But we have to do it.
/r/MensRights08/05/12 03:36 AM
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so if 1,000,000 men in the USA get vasectomies, then have sex with fertile women, 250 babies will result. Small chance * big population = it happens.
/r/MensRights07/05/12 02:21 AM
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This article made me want to puke. Seriously, it's just more "boys are clay; we must mould them into our image." Fuck this shit. How about you start with one..single...word: respect. Just fostering respect for boys in parents and teachers would do 1000 times more than all this pseudo-good-intentioned bullshit. For example: If the author wanted to get to the real bottom of our "boy problems", she wouldn't blame video games. Talk about confusing correlation with causation. FTA: I'm not above manip…
/r/MensRights07/05/12 02:11 AM
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I think this is where I originally heard of such things. Lookup "FISA". FTA: the courts agreed with the government that the law was a secret and should remain so -that the public has no right to see the law even though that law directly contradicts a constitutionally protected civil right. If that were not outrageous enough, the proposed legislation to "Fix FISA" is a fraud and involves more secret law.
/r/MensRights06/05/12 08:20 AM
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FTA: a sad dilemma It's not a dilemma. Sexual profiling was never a solution to pedophiles. There are plenty of female pedophiles we stridently ignore. This is all bullshit, from start to finish. It's a penis witch hunt is all this is.
/r/MensRights06/05/12 03:24 AM
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Question: Can they legally detain you for no reason? In the USA? Hell, they can detain you under a law which, by law, they're not allowed to tell you that it exists or what it says.
/r/MensRights06/05/12 03:22 AM
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we're not dealing with rational minds here.
/r/MensRights06/05/12 03:21 AM
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Men are valued by contemporary society by their utility to society. I dare say, men are seen as owned property owing an eternal debt of labor to government and women. Hence a man who commits suicide is... in a way, stealing from society. Similarly for MGTOW. Empathise with the man committing suicide? Do you empathise with the pig you ate as bacon this morning, or the workhorse pulling your plough through the hard earth?
/r/MensRights04/05/12 05:03 AM
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I knew I missed one. Thanks!
/r/MensRights04/05/12 05:00 AM
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The Myth of Male Power, Warren Farrell Lip Service, Kate Fillion The Woman Racket, Steve Noxon If Men Have All The Power, Why do Women Make The Rules, jack Kammer Legalizing Misandry, Nathanson and Young Spreading Misandry, Nathanson and Young The Prisoner of Sex, Norman Mailer The War Against Boys, Christina Hoff Sommers Heterophobia, Patai Domestic Violence: The 12 Things You Aren't Supposed to Know, Thomas B. James Save The Males, Kathleen Parker The Corporate Cult and other books by the craz…
/r/MensRights04/05/12 04:43 AM
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Reverse the genders; would the same standard for legal liability be applied to a woman whose husband beat their child to death?
/r/MensRights02/05/12 02:53 PM
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The real sexism present: this article would never be published if written by a man.
/r/MensRights02/05/12 02:42 PM
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FTA: What these people are basically saying is that, despite the overwhelming evidence of entrenched sexual, physical and ideological oppression of women, the only way feminism can really be fair is if it first identifies and solves all of the ways in which the patriarchy also oppresses men. To be more specific, women who agitate for their own liberation are only allowed to do so once they've fixed all the things that make men sad, thus making them stronger and even more powerful. Right. Queue t…
/r/MensRights01/05/12 04:48 AM
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More Women Are Primed to Land CEO Roles Oy, the sense of entitlement, right from the title. I know several CEOs and none of them "landed" anything. They got their job because they created their job. Nobody gave it to them on a silver platter.
/r/MensRights01/05/12 04:45 AM
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put in any terms you want, separated by commas, in the top text box. Example
/r/MensRights01/05/12 02:13 AM
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From an earlier article on the same topic: Cornelius Rogge, 79, a well-known Dutch sculptor whose family knew Mr Heithuis in the 1950s, reported the castration to an official inquiry into abuse within the Catholic Church. But his evidence was ignored. "We once asked Henk to drop his pants when the women were gone. He did that. He was maimed totally. It was a huge shock," he said. Last December, an official investigation by Wim Deetman, a former Dutch minister, received 1,800 reports of sexual ab…
/r/MensRights01/05/12 02:06 AM
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How does your egalitarian mind explain the following experience of Irlandes (an early MRA) I was induced by lies to attend an organizational meeting for a new group to deal with suicides. I chose to join in and was voted as spokesman of the group. One of our biggest problems was the Second Wives. Later, we discovered that any second wife who came to meetings eventually divorced her husband, one hundred percent of the time. The Second Wives were clearly there to control us. They would bring cooki…
/r/MensRights01/05/12 01:51 AM
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I was originally responding to this comment: You ignore the fact that men have dominated women throughout history and have unanimously been more privileged. This is patently false. From my country's history: Women in what is now known as Canada could vote before Canadian Confederation if they owned property, but after Confederation in 1867 they were legally barred from voting. ... In 1918, women had the same voting rights as men in federal elections. How did 51 years become "men have dominated w…
/r/MensRights01/05/12 01:26 AM
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I don't care if self-identified feminists come here or not. Why? Because I see /r/MensRights as a place where men can come to vent, share ideas, heal and eventually move on in life. Men won't get their rights back by groveling to women, begging-bowl in hand, asking to be treated fairly. We tried that; the result was VAWA and pink-ribbon campaigns. /r/MensRights is about men. Not women, not feminists, and most certainly not the preservation of fragile sensitivities. Men. It's about men here. Men.…
/r/MensRights30/04/12 03:14 PM
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And how much earlier were most men granted the vote? Hint: it's not "forever".
/r/MensRights30/04/12 06:42 AM
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the fact that men have dominated women That's the story. What's the reality? May I suggest you read Warren Farrell. He makes better arguments than most feminists.
/r/MensRights30/04/12 05:04 AM
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Please see: /r/againstcircumcision /r/circumcision This one in particular may be helpful: Convince me to not circumcise my son
/r/MensRights29/04/12 10:27 PM
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That may be true. I have only my experience to go on, and in my experience, "manosphere" has predominantly been used by those unsympathetic to MensRights.
/r/MensRights29/04/12 03:08 PM
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I think the greatest disenfranchisement men experience today occurs when men realize they've been lied to. We've been lied to about who the real victims are in society, who the real perpetrators of violence are (emotional and otherwise), and how few women have empathy for men.
/r/MensRights28/04/12 10:45 PM
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Meh. FTA: Bettina Arndt listens to the other voices in this debate: the men. Out of 37 paragraphs, 26 are from woman's perspective and only 11 are from men's perspective, and many of those don't exactly show men's good side. Note the use of shaming language like "manosphere". This is what women think "listening to men" involves. In an article where "Bettina Arndt listens men," there is only 29% male voice representation (rather than 0%?) I think I see part of the problem.
/r/MensRights28/04/12 10:09 PM
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Why do you need to convince her? People tend to believe what they want to believe. Put another way: leave her to live the consequences of her chosen beliefs.
/r/MensRights28/04/12 03:38 AM
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Last I checked, my genital mutilation (aka circumcision) wasn't a product of my imagination.
/r/MensRights28/04/12 03:14 AM
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The law is not logical.
/r/MensRights27/04/12 03:46 PM
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The case is about his failure to use proper medical procedures. Disgustingly, and to Canada's shame, nowhere will the child's human right to a whole body be discussed. The court is cowardly and refuses to touch male genital mutilation in Canada.
/r/MensRights27/04/12 02:44 PM
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because there is a human behind the bot :) and they see the karma
/r/MensRights27/04/12 01:55 AM
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he's not the first, but hopefully the word continues to spread. I kinda wish he didn't settle, however. It would have done a lot more to set a precedence.
/r/MensRights26/04/12 04:27 AM
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Bravo!!
/r/MensRights26/04/12 01:36 AM
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The only good thing of this entire article / discussion is: The first rule of masculinity is that you don't talk about masculinity, much less ask questions about it ... I want to hear men talk about what it means to be one. This is the 'novelty' in the OP. "Listen to and respect men's lived experiences?! Scandalous!!!" Unfortunately, that's where the goodness ends. Because the rest of the article is just more "male issues from a feminist perspective": If they happen to cry easily, if they happen…
/r/MensRights25/04/12 03:23 PM
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I'm sorry to hear that. Nobody deserves to go through what you're experiencing.
/r/MensRights25/04/12 07:12 AM
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Psychopathy doesn't rest. Genital mutilation is their compulsion.
/r/MensRights25/04/12 07:11 AM
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WTF is with all these "we gotta talk" posts almost every day now. Holy shit.
/r/MensRights25/04/12 03:31 AM
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Not you, Frida Ghitis.
/r/MensRights24/04/12 11:47 AM
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You're not going to change the opinion of her or any of her bigot friends. She's making her own life poor by pushing people away. Leave her to it. We need to focus on making ourselves better despite the haters like the OP. They're irrelevant to us.
/r/MensRights24/04/12 08:33 AM
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I don't think every compliment has to include both genders. It doesn't. But when the preponderance of compliments go to one sex, and the preponderance of derision goes to the other, it forms something we call a "pattern".
/r/MensRights24/04/12 04:50 AM
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Phymosis and most other "medical conditions" have been overprescribed and blatantly abused to justify unnecessary surgery for thousands of years. People are like, "well 1 in 1000 babies might have phymosis, so let's mutilate them all!!! Yayyyyy!!" Phymosis is so rare, I believe we should remove it from the circumcision debate. Seriously.
/r/MensRights23/04/12 02:52 PM
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If you want to see an advanced feminist culture ... an advanced feminist culture when big-daddy-government is broke and cannot maintain the single-mother-subsidies... coming soon to a country near you.
/r/MensRights23/04/12 02:46 PM
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There is no effective pain control for genital amputation; there are too many nerves. That's why the surgery is performed under a general anaesthetic on adults. They don't give infants general anaesthetic because it tends to kill them. You felt pain. A lot. So much, your brain suffered psychological trauma and now works differently than if you were not circumcised. Of course you will never know the difference. But over larger populations we can tell the difference. Like increased tendency for ra…
/r/MensRights22/04/12 04:53 PM
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unnecessary, irreversible, non-therapeutic genital amputations are being performed on individuals who can't consent. Exactly. And people who cannot see the problem with this need to reflect upon the terms "human rights", "human right to a whole body", "my body, my choice", etc. Basic, simple human respect demands we don't mutilate people at birth. WTF? How can anyone not think this way?!
/r/MensRights22/04/12 04:48 PM
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No, circumcision was originally done to male slaves in ancient Egypt to mark them as slaves and humiliate them. They preferred circumcision over full castration because castration led to too many deaths. Dead slaves make poor slaves. Then the psychologically damaged people from this practice decided it was a good idea to keep doing it, and they used religion as a cover story.
/r/MensRights21/04/12 11:22 PM
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according to society, it's not your penis -- it's theirs.
/r/MensRights21/04/12 03:46 PM
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Saying religion is the cause of pedophilia and child genital mutilation activists is like saying hammers are the cause of sore thumbs. The careless use of hammers are the source of sore thumbs. And psychological pathology, often rooted in social norms, is the cause of sociopaths like the OP.
/r/MensRights21/04/12 03:45 PM
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Regardless if this is a troll or not. People. Seriously. We may think a lot of /r/MensRights is common sense. But it's not common. It's considered hate speech by the public. That tells you a lot right there. Don't read this shit where ppl can see you. If you're at a college or work, don't read it there. Whoever runs the network can observe everything you read (unless its encrypted using https). You can buy inexpensive computers and run Tor, use a free anonymous proxy or buy your own cheap $5/mon…
/r/MensRights21/04/12 03:35 PM
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Every doctor who commits male genital mutilation breaks their oath to "first, do no harm". Then they go on to profit from selling infant foreskinds "harvested" from unwilling, traumatized infants for $1000 a pop. Does that sound to you like doctors acting ethically? Because it doesn't to me.
/r/MensRights21/04/12 04:01 AM
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People like MDs and EEs don't go Galt because they're lazy. They go Galt because they're smart and have deeply analyzied our society. They go Galt as a consequence of a long and thorough analysis. They go Galt because they feel a deep committment that going Galt is the most positive action they can take -- both for themselves and for the people around them. What is notable about the OP is not that these men decided to withdraw their support of current society. What is notable is that they are al…
/r/MensRights21/04/12 02:33 AM
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You cannot legally contract someone to break the law. For example, suppose you pay someone to commit murderd on your behalf, and they do. You are both guilty of a crime. Circumcision is techincally against the law in Canada, yet that particular law is never enforced. Circumcision is immoral and unethical. Yet there is no end of doctors and nurses willing to mutilate children. I say they're guilty of a crime -- regardless of what the parents or the court system have to say about it. And regardles…
/r/MensRights21/04/12 02:12 AM
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they didn't do their due diligence Meh, I disagree. Doctors seem to have a laise fair attitude that if a client asks for something to be done, the doctor has no moral, ethical or legal liability. We see the same thing in circumcision when doctors say, "it's the parents decision" to which I'd like to respond, "No, it's not the parent's decision, and you're the one holding the knife so you're responsible!" The OP is an excellent, and hopefully increasingly common case of doctors being stripped of …
/r/MensRights20/04/12 03:15 PM
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Because when a woman decides to have children without financial support, it becomes everyone's problem. Child poverty today is our social problems tomorrow. Why is single-motherhood-by-choice an appropriate target for public shaming? Because single mothers bind all of society to their ill decisions.
/r/MensRights20/04/12 03:12 PM
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... yet what does the "Journal of Gender and Society" have to say about school topics where boys under-perform girls? Remember the first feminist rule of gender differences: Sex Positive Trait Negative Trait Female Innate Learned Male Learned Innate Or in this case... Sex Academic Excellence Problem in School Female Girls are naturally smart Teacher bias / discrimination Male Teacher bias / favoritism Boys are stupid
/r/MensRights17/04/12 02:26 PM
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And now we know what type of person Whitney Cummings is.
/r/MensRights17/04/12 04:55 AM
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fantastic!
/r/MensRights17/04/12 01:24 AM
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She has a son she's abusing. Yes.
/r/MensRights15/04/12 03:10 PM
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I duno. I've had enough of social engineering. No, I'll go one further: the problem is not that our social engineering is misdirected, ineffective or unfair. The problem is social engineering itself. Please read this book to get a glimpse of what I'm talking about.
/r/MensRights15/04/12 05:03 AM
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I don't know. But in a world which supports child labor such as this in 1908-1912, I'm not sure any able-bodied child was safe from any job they were deemed capable of. (link was the best one 30 seconds of googling turned up) Furman Owens, 12 years old. Can't read. Doesn't know his A,B,C's. Said, "Yes I want to learn but can't when I work all the time." Been in the mills 4 years, 3 years in the Olympia Mill. Columbia, South Carolina. The boy above started working in a textile mill at the age of …
/r/MensRights15/04/12 04:58 AM
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Oh, but the situation is sweeter than that. For decades people have been telling men "if you aren't prepared to deal with the consequences, keep it in your pants." Well, now men are starting to do exactly that. Enter the hand wringing and lamentations of the women: "where have all the good men gone?!" You see, the old "keep it in your pants" was never expected to be followed or taken seriously. It was merely a way to tell men "shut the fuck up". "Keep it in your pants" and similar arguments are …
/r/MensRights15/04/12 02:50 AM
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Judge movements (in this case Feminism) by their actions, not their words.
/r/MensRights15/04/12 02:46 AM
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A blunt force instrument feminism dreamed up to bludgeon society into submission.
/r/MensRights15/04/12 02:44 AM
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"Holistic genital mutilators and infant traumatizers"
/r/MensRights15/04/12 02:41 AM
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children used to work in the mines.
/r/MensRights15/04/12 02:35 AM
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... tacky replying to my own post, but I want to add another point here. You go ask just about any garbage collector why they choose that job. They'll most likely tell you, "I have a wife and kids to feed." These men are not in the sanitation industry because they want to, or they find it spiritually fulfilling... they're making as much money as they can, with the skills they have, so they can feed their family. And they put their life on the line every day to earn the extra "danger pay". Now co…
/r/MensRights14/04/12 03:17 PM
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It would also lower men's fatalities by allowing them to work in safer fields more readily. Uh... Here is a list of the most hazardous jobs: firefighters roofers garbage collectors fishermen loggers commercial airplane pilots structural metal workers farmers miners power line servicemen You let us know which ones men should stop working in. We'll get right on that. Seriously, if men left these jobs... then what?! Are magical fairies going to take our garbage away and grow our food? it wouldn't b…
/r/MensRights14/04/12 03:05 PM
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The "1 point" beside his comment means that his comment has 1 point. Other people (including you and I) can up/down vote each comment in addition to each top-level submission. He didn't give you 1 point; he has one point on that particular comment.
/r/MensRights14/04/12 06:42 AM
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The context of their comment was my earlier comment, which read: Something like this should be required viewing before any parent can subject circumcision upon their young. In world with compassion and justice, parents seeking to circumcise their children would be sent to counselling.
/r/MensRights13/04/12 11:05 PM
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Which is why I only ever sort stories by 'new'. The 'hot' tab in /r/MensRights is broken. This isn't going to change; this subreddit is too controversial.
/r/MensRights13/04/12 08:41 PM
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Female-as-victim studies like this take 4 steps: 1) start with a theory: women are victims (some people call this an 'agenda') 2) select the most female-favorable data (sample bias -- in this case, the Estonia) 3) find statistics which cast females as victim (lack of integrity) 4) Press release "OMG Teh WImminz! (with small disclaimer nobody reports on)" (misrepresentation) This is why, for example, most people believe suicide is predominantly a "teen female" problem when 86% of suicide victims …
/r/MensRights13/04/12 07:51 PM
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We've covered this topic before: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/btws1/convince_me_not_to_circumcise_my_child_this_is/ http://www.reddit.com/r/againstcircumcision http://www.reddit.com/r/circumcision http://www.cirp.org TL;DR: most of what you "know" of circumcision is a lie or half-truth. Please educate yourself before subjecting this terrible procedure on someone else. Ignorance is a poor excuse, especially in the Internet age. Cutting off another person's genitals is grotesque, do…
/r/MensRights13/04/12 04:16 PM
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To people who understand the notions of respect and consent, unusual doesn't make it acceptable.
/r/MensRights13/04/12 03:43 AM
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disturbed human being. no need to ascribe a gender to them; it doesn't really matter.
/r/MensRights12/04/12 09:46 PM
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Aerik was, for a long time, the only person banned from /r/MensRights. There was no controversy regarding the ban.
/r/MensRights12/04/12 09:45 PM
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Something like this should be required viewing before any parent can subject circumcision upon their young. In world with compassion and justice, parents seeking to circumcise their children would be sent to counselling.
/r/MensRights12/04/12 07:36 PM
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I know where I'm putting my money.
/r/MensRights12/04/12 03:41 PM
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it's just so bad and embarrassing. I mean, go read the OP but switch the genders / movements. Imagine it was someone calling themselves an MRA trolling /r/feminisms. How would that make us look? It's so bad, I cannot imagine anyone with a brain giving any weight to this blogger.
/r/MensRights12/04/12 07:29 AM
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A couple years into therapy, I was peeling back the layers of my unhappiness and past abuse when I discovered... I hated men. And I was like, "How the fuck did this get in my brain?" Yeah. My conversion occurred shortly thereafter.
/r/MensRights12/04/12 07:26 AM
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We're face people like this in every day life. Might as well learn ways to deal with them. Case in point, I recently met a guy over lunch who went into a rage about /r/MensRights and how despicable we all are. Awkward...
/r/MensRights12/04/12 07:22 AM
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after reading the OP, I'm not sure if the author is trolling /r/MR, or meta-trolling feminism.
/r/MensRights12/04/12 07:12 AM
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I'm not sure they care about themselves. They're too hurt.
/r/MensRights12/04/12 07:11 AM
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yeah, well, we're going to learn that lesson soon. Because right now, western culture does not agree with you.
/r/MensRights12/04/12 07:04 AM
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How about we focus less on who's our enemy, and focus more on what we want for a good life worth living. Take circumcision... "I don't want anyone chopping off parts of my genitals without my permission." I didn't have to blame anyone or narrow my focus to feminism to say this. Who's to blame for my circumcision? Asshole fucked-up parents, a medical establishment which harbours sexual predators, and a culture of male disposability, misandry and sexual perversion. I wouldn't say "gynocentrism" or…
/r/MensRights12/04/12 12:35 AM
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FTA: “this is the first generation of males who were not taught how to be men.” I disagree. I would say... “this is the first generation of males who were taught how to not be men.”
/r/MensRights12/04/12 12:04 AM
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FTA: The reality that Bill Bennett, Kay Hymowitz and the rest acknowledge but won’t say aloud is that women are born and men are made. Yes, but a more accurate rendition for today reads: The reality that Bill Bennett, Kay Hymowitz and the rest acknowledge but won’t say aloud is that women are born and men are sabotaged at every opportunity. The few Men who fight through the abuse are typically wise enough to not flaunt their masculinity. Survival -- it's a guy thing.
/r/MensRights11/04/12 11:31 PM
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I agree. Which is why I didn't list those. I'm not saying "forget feminism", I'm saying "don't obsess upon feminism to the exclusion of other factors."
/r/MensRights11/04/12 11:25 PM
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Having said that, they are mutually exclusive in some areas (foremost among them being paternal rights).
/r/MensRights11/04/12 08:24 PM
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MRAs focus on legal discrimination that is mainly created by feminism. Wrong. Many male issues have little to do with feminism. Feminism is certainly a hindrance to discussion of every male issue. But feminism is not the cause. Take male genital mutilation for example. Genital mutilation goes back centuries. Feminism is indifferent to male genital mutilation because it doesn't affect women. Or the draft. Feminism didn't create the draft, they are indifferent to it because it doesn't affect women…
/r/MensRights11/04/12 08:20 PM
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TL;DR: More circumcision lies to try to justify a culture of sexual predation, mutilation and amputation of infant genitals.
/r/MensRights11/04/12 04:25 AM
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Indeed. The selective use of certain language is a common thread in men's issues. Good post.
/r/MensRights11/04/12 03:04 AM
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Many people, particularly mothers, burden boys with the expectations of adult men. Roadkill discusses this in a post from 2009 A man is born with the potential for strength. But this potential must be nurtured, valued and cared for before it can be be realized. FTA: They want some love Few symptoms of our society's pathology are as poignant, powerful or as common as a mother pushing away her young son to "toughen him up".
/r/MensRights10/04/12 08:40 PM
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Imagine coming to /r/anysubreddit and seeing nothing but: check this out! thought you'd like this cool! this totally sucks blah blah blah... Maybe you have time and energy to click on every link. Me? I find a descriptive headline very useful.
/r/MensRights10/04/12 02:38 AM
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But that view would likely change if the genders were reversed and I did not want to take responsibility for the consequences of my decisions (be they regret, criticism from others, etc), wouldn't they? fixed that for you A sane, responsible woman would have experienced a similar fate as you. The problem is the insane and/or selectively-irresponsible women for whom the system bends over backwards to accommodate. Not to mention the apparent glee the system enjoys at hating on men.
/r/MensRights09/04/12 06:58 PM
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What does MR think of this article? I don't know anything about the article. But if you told me something about the article in your headline, I might read it. Your headline "What does MR think of this article?" can be roughly translated as, "I liked this article so you must read it and validate my experience. Do it now."
/r/MensRights09/04/12 04:35 PM
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Why hasn't anyone pointed out that 99.9% of men are ineligible Ding! Give that man a cigar! Welcome to hypergamy.
/r/MensRights09/04/12 04:43 AM
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As you point out, the comments don't agree. The better question is: why do we see such a misandrous, grotesque perspective published in the corporate media when its not representative of the population? It's almost as though corporate media has an agenda...
/r/MensRights08/04/12 08:23 PM
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lol, you think shaming language works on me anymore?
/r/MensRights08/04/12 08:18 PM
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implying that women should not have feelings you said this, not me. I said: [Italian women, in contrast to American women] manage the situation with tact, wit and respect in due measure [... like an adult].
/r/MensRights08/04/12 04:19 PM
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<sigh> Normally I avoid crude gestures, but I can't help myself... wtf is with all the white knights in this thread? Not to mention a cohort of women claiming their feelings are paramount and men should tip-toe around them and their well-exposed breasts. Grow a pair, assholes. Edit: this is why Italian women believe American women are childish; Italian women enjoy some of the most robust and expressive male attention the world over. And they don't run to papa every time a guy says a crude remark…
/r/MensRights08/04/12 02:31 PM
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FTA: The Dutch boys I interviewed grew up in a culture that gives them permission to love ... But the American boys I interviewed, [grew] up in a culture that often assumes males are only out to get sex And you know what? As a guy, I'm not interested in having a relationship with someone who genuinely believes I'm a 2-dimensional cardboard cutout with a dick.
/r/MensRights07/04/12 05:26 PM
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This. People have been saying for decades, "he should have thought of the consequences before he had sex." Well, now boys and men are considering the consequences before they have sex. Happy? Queue the legions of hand-wringers and "where are all the men" lamentations.
/r/MensRights07/04/12 05:21 PM
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When ignorance becomes willfull ignorance, I find it harder to accept.
/r/MensRights07/04/12 02:19 AM
14

FTA: [Northrop's] wife must have received welfare payments [for herself and their children] and, according to the law, the father of children who receive AFDC or TANF must reimburse the state. But of course in Northrop’s case, there’s a problem with that concept. Northrop was a responsible dad before he went to prison, and the state put him [in prison] for a crime he didn’t commit and never confessed to. In other words, it’s the state’s fault that the state is out the money it paid to Northrop’s…
/r/MensRights06/04/12 02:40 PM
5

"destined to be urban legend fodder for men's rights activists for years even though it smells to high heaven like bullshit" Like the "superbowl sunday" DV myth, or the 1-in-4 myth?
/r/MensRights06/04/12 02:11 PM
3

Red pill take MLP, gives you back your soul in return.
/r/MensRights06/04/12 02:05 PM
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your actions are beautiful.
/r/MensRights06/04/12 02:01 PM
3

Your crying was a perfectly acceptable, healthy and appropriate human response. Your mother, on the other hand, couldn't handle your expression of grief because it triggered emotions in herself she never learned to deal with. Your mother may believe vulnerability = weakness, which just isn't true; quite the opposite actually. TL;DR: this is your mother's problem, not yours. She needs a therapist. As for you: cry on.
/r/MensRights06/04/12 01:53 PM
3

my family always called them cabbage rolls.
/r/MensRights06/04/12 01:41 AM
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The Invisible Boy prepared by Frederick Mathews, Ph.D., C. Psych. for the Gov't of Canada has the following: there is an alarmingly high rate of sexual abuse by females in the backgrounds of rapists, sex offenders and sexually aggressive men – 59% (Petrovich and Templer, 1984), 66% (Groth, 1979) and 80% (Briere and Smiljanich, 1993). A strong case for the need to identify female perpetrators can be found in Table 4, which presents the findings from a study of adolescent sex offenders by O’Brien …
/r/MensRights06/04/12 01:03 AM
1

And this explains why some people have moved past denial and towards action? I don't doubt your experience, but tell that to the numerous teachers who have left the profession, or decided against entering it to begin with, whose first-hand experience contradicts yours.
/r/MensRights04/04/12 02:45 PM
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the few male teachers are one-false-accusation away from a career change.
/r/MensRights03/04/12 05:31 AM
2

Now if you're done polluting my thread, you can submit some actual input, or gtfo. lol
/r/MensRights03/04/12 01:46 AM
1

solitary confinement is pretty hard on most people. There's a reason solitary is used as punishment within jails.
/r/MensRights02/04/12 07:23 AM
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I wasn't complaining, just making an observation. But I can see how you might make that mistake. So what is your remark? An observation or another recursive whine?
/r/MensRights02/04/12 07:22 AM
2

maybe it's either that or solitary confinement for your entire term (because that's the only way they can guarantee your safety). I don't know -- I'm pulling this out of my ass. But it wouldn't surprise me.
/r/MensRights02/04/12 07:15 AM
2

OP is whining about people who whine.
/r/MensRights02/04/12 07:09 AM
2

If /r/equality and /r/feminisms were conducive to discussing both male and female issues, /r/MensRights would not exist. Many, many people have tried to make /r/equality live up to its name and failed.
/r/MensRights01/04/12 07:27 PM
2

Not rare: great male-positive article Rare: great male-positive article written by a female Less Rare: great male-positive article, written by a mother of boys
/r/MensRights01/04/12 02:59 PM
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read the link I provided in another comment. The information you seek is in there. And yes, I suffered long before reddit existed. Does this excite you?
/r/MensRights01/04/12 07:08 AM
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http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights//comments/btws1/convince_me_not_to_circumcise_my_child_this_is/
/r/MensRights01/04/12 06:34 AM
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even if he doesn't consciously remember, we know that child abuse permanently changes the brain's structure and functioning. He may not remember, but he's not quite the same person he would have been.
/r/MensRights01/04/12 06:31 AM
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I am always curious about the child genital mutilation debate. fixed that for you.
/r/MensRights01/04/12 06:28 AM
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Your survey is meaningless because /r/MensRights is merely a symptom. If you want to know how many MRA are men or women, take a poll of the people in your family, friends or work. Of course, the likelihood of those groups telling you their true feelings about MensRights is near zero for fear of the repercussions.
/r/MensRights31/03/12 09:44 PM
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We understand what you're saying. But you're not funny, you're not mature, and you're not helpful. You're just ignorant and/or in denial.
/r/MensRights31/03/12 03:54 PM
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I sometimes find it useful to point out that the term "male genital mutilation" is both accurate and appropriate. I've had to educate people on basic anatomy and reference a dictionary for the definition of "mutilate" on several occasions.
/r/MensRights31/03/12 03:52 PM
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Maybe the ideation results from a conscious awareness of what was done -- and the knowledge that it was done deliberately -- rather than a subconscious and oppressed memory of trauma.
/r/MensRights29/03/12 03:53 PM
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I linked to the book here: http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/ri5wj/munchausen_complex_by_matteoli_circumcision_is_an/ I didn't call out the correlation to violent societies because, frankly, the evidence is not strong enough to stand up to people's denial and, um, what would call it... normality bias? IE: our collective self-image does not want to see the link between violent child abuse and violent social activities. It's hard enough trying to explain why a circumcised father would wa…
/r/MensRights29/03/12 03:48 PM
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Fox news doesn't come with literally hundreds of references.
/r/MensRights29/03/12 05:39 AM
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Not USA, but Canada... In a country where male genital mutilation is openly practised and common, yet FGM is exceedingly rare, we have Section 268 of the Criminal Code of Canada explicitly protecting only females: Section 268 (1) Every one commits an aggravated assault who wounds, maims, disfigures or endangers the life of the complainant. (2) Every one who commits an aggravated assault is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years. (3) For…
/r/MensRights28/03/12 11:56 PM
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From the book I'm reading and posted today to /r/MensRights: Before even one more circumcision is performed, it might be good to know why four times the number of men in the USA commit suicide than women. We would like to see an investigator explore whether suicide relates to circumcision status. Why? Because American women who were circumcised as children unanimously report lifelong suicidal ideation, including suicide attempts in childhood. Given that historically the circumcised nations were …
/r/MensRights28/03/12 10:50 PM
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From the book: Before even one more circumcision is performed [in the USA], it might be good to know why four times the number of men in the USA commit suicide than women. We would like to see an investigator explore whether suicide relates to circumcision status. Why? Because American women who were circumcised as children unanimously report lifelong suicidal ideation, including suicide attempts in childhood.
/r/MensRights28/03/12 10:45 PM
2

This book contains a goldmine of references at the end.
/r/MensRights28/03/12 10:28 PM
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Parts of this book are available for free from Google Books
/r/MensRights28/03/12 09:22 PM
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I agree circumcision has widespread psychological and social consequences, most of which are bad. I like your focus on boundaries as one possible example. I don't know that your hypothesis is correct. Verifying it would take a lot of work. However, to anyone who thinks circumcision doesn't affect the victim or society at large, all I can say is: [citation needed]
/r/MensRights28/03/12 08:48 PM
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Sorry for being an asshole. You got me thinking; I haven't seen a solid source in a while, so I decided to lookup some references myself. Something as contentious as sex bias in divorce petitioning is going to have some, erm, controversial influences in the gathering and reporting of facts. Here's what I have so far: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/mvsr/supp/mv39_12s2.pdf Wives petitioned for divorce more often than husbands, and were even more apt to do so when children were involved (table 12). A…
/r/MensRights28/03/12 04:05 AM
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Let me introduce you to: google.com It's awesome. You type in what you want to know, and it finds pages which may have the information you seek. Give it a try. I know you can do it.
/r/MensRights28/03/12 03:04 AM
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Do you understand that the genital mutilation industry has been using pseudo-science like this for over 100 years to justify mutilating and torturing infants? Two references I plucked from a 2-second search of cirp.org: http://www.cirp.org/library/history/darby4/ http://www.cirp.org/library/history/gollaher/ Please understand, circumcision has NOTHING to do with the health of the victim. Your post implies it does. As a circumcised man, I find your post insensitive and insanely offensive. Go have…
/r/MensRights28/03/12 02:52 AM
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-1 for the article +1 for the comments :) Like I keep saying... society today is a factory churning out MRAs.
/r/MensRights28/03/12 02:49 AM
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Which leads me to wonder why so few of those voices have found their way to the newspaper itself.
/r/MensRights28/03/12 02:06 AM
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I disagree. Most people's notion of "improving" involves their intellectual brain doubling-down on denial and oppression of their natural, animal brain. And this leads to dysfunction, not improvement. For example... if people were to just "be themselves", they'd never improve. curiosity is a human trait. Ever hear of it? It leads to things like space missions to the moon. For a better discussion of what I'm talking about, see "Summerhill School" by Neill. Takeaway from Neill's experience: if you…
/r/MensRights28/03/12 01:57 AM
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I recommend you make an edit. 1) Clarify that you're referring to jokes (or whatever) and a double-standard in their acceptance/downvote. 2) provide some examples. It would help if you provided links to other discussions where this downvoting has occurred to allow us to judge for ourselves.
/r/MensRights25/03/12 10:21 PM
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Calling a guy a 'dick' may be considered derogatory, but also recognizes and legitimises his patriarchal power, including his power to rape women, represented by his male manifestation: his dick. Hence calling a man a "dick" reinforces the patriarchal hierarchy -- a hierarchy whose sole purpose is to oppress and objectify women -- and is therefore the height of misogyny. How am I doing? Think I can go for tenure?
/r/MensRights25/03/12 08:25 PM
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I'm saying feminists can spin anything as misogyny if they are so inclined.
/r/MensRights25/03/12 07:24 PM
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First line of the article: It will not have gone unnoticed that men are more violent than women. False. Especially if you include "emotional violence"...
/r/MensRights25/03/12 07:20 PM
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If I were a feminist... "Women have assholes; using a female body part as a derogatory term is misogyny. Why do you hate women?" See, it's easy.
/r/MensRights25/03/12 03:16 PM
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There's also the fact that millions of men are waking up on their own. Society can deride /r/MensRights all they want; society cannot stop men from coming to their own conclusions based on 1st-hand lived experience.
/r/MensRights25/03/12 01:20 PM
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That may be fair for people on the street. But academics can either (a) properly inform themselves or (b) have no academic credibility. Likewise, politicians have an obligation to be informed. Unfortunately, on issues like VAWA, political capital overwhelms sanity. For example, the politicians know exactly the effect VAWA is having on men. It's their job to know. It's not the politician's fault that society has decided to have a great big hate-on for men. Which brings us to why /r/mensrights lon…
/r/MensRights25/03/12 01:16 AM
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I prefer to call it by its more accurate description: a deliberately perpetuated and politically motivated lie.
/r/MensRights24/03/12 05:55 PM
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Warren Farrell Ex-feminist, well-researched, low-impact, non-confrontational... perfect for a victim in denial.
/r/MensRights24/03/12 05:24 PM
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I think feminist groups should replace the word 'feminist' with the word 'equalist'. I felt that way back in the early 1990's. Today I judge people and social movements by their actions, not their words.
/r/MensRights24/03/12 02:24 PM
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Why are there so many attacks on feminism in /mensrights? Because we judge movements by their actions and achievements, not their words.
/r/MensRights21/03/12 02:15 AM
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You may be right. But you cannot deny; the classroom and courtroom give them the home-team advantage.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 02:01 PM
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All circumcisions are injuries. Severe and permanent forced amputation of sexual organs; the only genuine goal is to remove sexual pleasure. Psychosexual sadism cloaked behind a wall of lies and denial. The injury is physical, psychological, sexual, social, political.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 01:44 PM
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She forgot point #11: we consider it acceptable to torture and mutilate the genitals of our infant boys. Oh wait, she didn't forget; she doesn't care. She probably enjoys and participates in the sadism herself.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 03:43 AM
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Something tells me they don't want to hear about sexual assault and mutilation of babies.
/r/MensRights20/03/12 01:40 AM
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The men's rights community seems mostly white Really?! I'd say many of the most cogent, most convincing MRAs are black. And then there's the movie "Diary of a Tired Black Man". If you think the MRM is mostly white, I'd argue it's because you've been ignoring the blacks.
/r/MensRights19/03/12 02:52 PM
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FTA: Women lack the same fine tuned reflexes, hand-eye coordination and the instincts which men evolved for Hunter-gathering. Perhaps. But I have another contributing factor: the variance is men is much greater than the variance in women. I suspect if you took a statistically relevant cross section of the population and ranked them according to their snooker skill, the top 10% and the bottom 10% would be dominated by men. Statisticians might say men have a "larger standard deviation". Hence in a…
/r/MensRights19/03/12 04:32 AM
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FTA: "The primary goal of our school is teaching respect. Yet you disrespect your students by preventing them from exercising, learning and playing naturally. "If you can't do, teach"? The school system of today makes me sick to my stomach.
/r/MensRights19/03/12 04:19 AM
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"Girl with the Dragon Tattoo" is feminist hate porn. The original title translates as, "Men who hate women". Need more be said?
/r/MensRights18/03/12 05:30 PM
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If she dismisses any male issue as "petty", that tells you everything you need to know. Seriously. A genuinely interested and open person doesn't dismiss life-crushing issues as "petty". On the contrary, if the person you are talking with has an agenda of their own (ie: I want to ignore men's suffering for reasons I refuse to disclose), then dismissing male-specific issues seems like a good idea. TL;DR: stop bugging us just because your sister is sexist, insensitive and apparently lacks basic hu…
/r/MensRights18/03/12 08:53 AM
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WRONG QUESTION Start with this: respect, awareness, health Healthy humans will act, by their own volition, the way you prescribe to force people to act. Coercion is not the answer you're looking for (no matter how well intentioned).
/r/MensRights18/03/12 04:30 AM
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My reading of this article: cruel and grotesque child abuse and sexual oppression, enacted due to psychopathy, sexual perversion and ancient irrational rituals, should be stopped if but only if they result in a dead baby. Talk about denial...
/r/MensRights18/03/12 03:29 AM
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How about this: educate yourself educate others goto 1 With awareness, the solutions to our problems become self evident. Without awareness, we risk acting in a counter-productive way and hurting others. "Be the change you want to see in the world."
/r/MensRights17/03/12 08:22 PM
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Remember: Sex Positive Trait Negative Trait Female Innate Learned Male Learned Innate
/r/MensRights17/03/12 03:41 AM
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In part, because of the "empathy gap". This was discussed recently and cogently by GirlWritesWhat.
/r/MensRights16/03/12 04:10 AM
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They suspended little girls for drawing crap, I think this has more to do with the fostering of ignorance, arrogance, distrust of others and society-wide hysteria combined with a long-standing generational war upon the young. fixed that for ya
/r/MensRights15/03/12 12:38 PM
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This. I highly recommend the book "Sumerhill School" by A.S. Neill. It will validate your experiences and also give you a model for healthy growth in this time of your life. You are having a perfectly healthy and human response to a dysfunctional and sick society.
/r/MensRights15/03/12 12:31 PM
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You see a herpes-infected dick-sucking as the greater problem. I see a forced genital mutilation as the greater problem. Difference of opinion, or difference of priorities?
/r/MensRights15/03/12 01:13 AM
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I don't think you understand... in her mind, men don't count. Hence, when an authoritarian strikes, it's only women who suffer... because men are not human. In her mind, male suffering is a meaningless phrase. Like saying "the wind suffering" or "a rock suffering". "women are the primary victims of war"... "male infants don't feel circumcision pain"... see the common theme? make sense now?
/r/MensRights14/03/12 04:49 AM
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I use my words very carefully. The foreskin is an integral and important part of the male genitals. From dictionary.com am·pu·tate [am-pyoo-teyt] verb (used with object), -tat·ed, -tat·ing. to cut off (all or part of a limb or digit of the body), as by surgery. to prune, lop off, or remove: Because of space limitations the editor amputated the last two paragraphs of the news report. Circumcision involves the cutting off of the male foreskin through surgical means. Circumcision is amputation of h…
/r/MensRights13/03/12 02:57 AM
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funny. it's never circumcision which causes death. it's always "blood loss" or "infection" or "insufficient post-surgery care"... never the act of genital mutilation. You know, when a person is decapitated, they die due to lack of blood and oxygen to the brain. Would you claim such a person died of blood loss, or decapitation? A human rights violation happens in front of your face, and you claim that it's only a problem because the person received insufficient care after he had his genitals ampu…
/r/MensRights12/03/12 03:04 PM
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We'd need hard data to be sure. You (all of us) are far too susceptible to selection bias and/or confirmation bias to make a trustworthy conclusion. As a side note: this is the real innovation and strength of science as a tool; it lets us step outside our bias and see closer to reality.
/r/MensRights12/03/12 02:40 PM
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Considering all the crimes against humanity this IMF chief has committed (impoverishing and enslaving small countries, economic warfare, and so on)... ... and these people are protesting his false sexual assault accusation?! WTF?! The priorities of contemporary culture. ...
/r/MensRights11/03/12 03:29 PM
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Did you read the pledge the male students read aloud in front of a female audience? From the pledge: I understand that rape is about power, control and violence. I know that the overwhelming number of perpetrators of sexual violence is men. The message here is pretty clear. And it has nothing to do with DV or rape. The people who run these types of events don't see rape victims as people needing help; they see rape victims as leverage.
/r/MensRights11/03/12 07:06 AM
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sounds like the pro-genital-mutilation camp and their "circumcision prevents masturbation and urinary tract infections". Oh wait, they've moved on to "prevents STDs"; my bad. This is what a hidden agenda looks like
/r/MensRights10/03/12 04:23 PM
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FTA: I don't get it. I don't. I feel like I'm living in a parallel universe. I feel like every single time I talk to feminists about this issue, I'm having an out of body experience. That is how bizzare their minds seem to work I, I... I... Heh, welcome to our world. Cheers
/r/MensRights09/03/12 03:43 PM
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Fast forward 20 years, feminist extremist opines "yeah, I was really unreasonable, I was going through a selfish time in my life. But I'm a good person now (that it doesn't matter)".
/r/MensRights08/03/12 02:51 AM
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From the comments: It’s an interesting parallel that early Christians were mocked by pagans for their chastity and modern chaste men are now similarly mocked by the church for the very same thing. I guess mystery Babylon is no longer a mystery, the modern church is the whore of Baylon.
/r/MensRights07/03/12 05:06 AM
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indeed
/r/MensRights06/03/12 03:44 PM
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Since circumcision has nothing to do with HIV, urinary tract infections, penile cancer, or any of the other outrageous excuses used over the years... ... the excuse doesn't really have to make sense, does it? It's like, I'm pointing at the sky saying, "IS THAT THE SPACE SHUTTLE" while I pick your pocket, and you're pontificating that "there's no space shuttle up there..."
/r/MensRights06/03/12 08:19 AM
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Yeah, and they saved the best for last: However, I’ve known women who have been keen for their husbands to get snipped, not just because it means they can stop using contraception, but because, as one confessed to me: ‘What I like about his vasectomy is that now he can’t leave us and go off and have babies with someone else.' And let’s face it, if he’s sterile, he isn’t likely to find a woman half my age to run off with, as she’d be put off by it. If the jab is reversible, well, I wouldn’t have …
/r/MensRights06/03/12 08:14 AM
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Because circumcision is not about religion, or medicine, or health, or preventing STDs... Circumcision is about depriving the victim of sexual pleasure as an adult. Circumcision is caused by individual and social pathology with a heavy helping of sadism and denial.
/r/MensRights06/03/12 08:01 AM
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Actually, that might do the trick. OP: Lead the discussion as you would have, but reverse the genders in all your discussion topics. You know, to maintain balance and equality, and all that.
/r/MensRights04/03/12 11:11 PM
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In the feminist mind, Rich Elite == Man. Hence when a male rich elite benefits from his privilege, feminists interpret this as male privilege. Not elite privilege. As for the "most CEOs are men" bullshit... feminists simply don't understand the statistical distribution of talent and inclination within human populations. But look. At the end of the day, none of this matters; feminists see what they want to see.
/r/MensRights04/03/12 11:06 PM
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Shorter bathroom lineups, though it's not exactly our fault women loiter in the loo. WTF are they doing in there? When you go the women's bathroom they have a separate bar inside that you can grab drinks. Seems crazy to me; my #1 priority in the bathroom is to get out as quickly as possible.
/r/MensRights04/03/12 11:00 PM
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Just to hammer the point home, the following is Section 268 of the Criminal Code of Canada, in the Assaults section: Aggravated assault, Section 268 (1) Every one commits an aggravated assault who wounds, maims, disfigures or endangers the life of the complainant. (2) Every one who commits an aggravated assault is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years. (3) For greater certainty, in this section, “wounds” or “maims” includes to excise, …
/r/MensRights04/03/12 10:38 PM
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Thank you :)
/r/MensRights04/03/12 10:09 PM
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Please do. I tried to find a reference for where I first saw it, but... too many books, too little time.
/r/MensRights04/03/12 10:01 PM
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Congratz!
/r/MensRights04/03/12 09:59 PM
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"misery loves company" taken to a surgical level?
/r/MensRights04/03/12 07:55 PM
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Here is some interesting evidence from a woman who was circumcised in the USA: In sadness I confronted my mother and was adamantly told that she had always done what was best for her children and had no regrets but did not want to speak of it. I made an appointment to speak to the now retired physician only to have him move away before I could speak with him. I am still searching for him. I know he was an old friend of my parents who also did my brothers' bris. Surely he will know why my mother …
/r/MensRights04/03/12 07:05 PM
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It was posted in /r/MensRights a few weeks back. You can use the 'older' button + google as well as I can. Please post the link here when you find it.
/r/MensRights04/03/12 06:48 PM
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I'm not sure why people keep trying their hardest to make these arguments. Because it's not about "health benefits". Circumcision is about something else... something people don't want to talk about. Or maybe they feel the real reason fails to justify routine neonatal circumcision. What do you imagine some of those reasons might be? I'll start: (from a few weeks ago) after divorce, woman has teen son circumcised to hurt father (who was against circumcision). Result: son falls into multi-year dep…
/r/MensRights04/03/12 05:50 PM
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It starts with the following contemporary view of people: Sex Positive Trait Negative Trait Female Innate Learned Male Learned Innate For example: a person walks into a store, steals a can of pop, walks out. Woman as thief: She had a hard childhood. She needed it to feed her child. She did not understand what she was doing. A man made her do it. All of the reasons for her theft exist outside of her. Man as thief: He is a criminal. He has no respect for the law or others. He wants things only for…
/r/MensRights04/03/12 05:06 PM
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This is the same chick who banged every drunk stud when when she was young. And now she's taking out her confusion and dysfunction on her children. This is called child abuse.
/r/MensRights04/03/12 04:22 PM
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This needs to be a TL;DR at the bottom of your post ;)
/r/MensRights04/03/12 08:13 AM
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And religion. I strongly suspect religion is a proxy, an excuse, a scape goat. I'm more comfortable with 'tradition' or 'cultural norm' for some reason. I have also noticed people do things because they want to (like circumcision) and hide behind religion as an excuse -- to hide their own suffering or, in some cases, sadism. It's a simple fact: people like to see others hurt. Caveot: we don't want to do the hurting ourselves because then we feel hurt.
/r/MensRights04/03/12 05:01 AM
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Except for things like genital mutilation (aka "circumcision") which has more to do with culture-wide psychosexual psychopathy and generation wars.
/r/MensRights04/03/12 02:02 AM
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lol
/r/MensRights27/02/12 04:19 AM
5

How do you institute a man tax if you can't get away with, you know, an actual man-only tax? Call it something else. "It's for the children!"
/r/MensRights27/02/12 04:07 AM
2

It'll eventually blow up for everyone. Then we'll un-learn the message. Just takes time. :-/
/r/MensRights24/02/12 08:07 AM
2

I'd say giving each an option to abort is a step up from where we are today, yes.
/r/MensRights23/02/12 07:16 AM
1

Potatoe, po-tat-o. My position is one for balance and fairness. Preferably coupled with some compassion and understanding, but this is evidently asking for too much. I'll settle for just balance and fairness to start.
/r/MensRights23/02/12 03:46 AM
1

I don't believe it's right to say the risks of pregnancy and childbirth are the same as men post-birth. Try not paying child support. Then get back to us about whether it carries more or less risk versus pregnancy. I'm not trying to dismiss your views. I'm trying to call attention to how you obsess over the single 9 months of pregnancy to the exclusion of male contribution. I will now carry your argument to the logical conclusion in an attempt to demonstrate why it is absurd: "When you compare t…
/r/MensRights23/02/12 03:44 AM
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I think it's based on inertia, psychopathy rooted in past circumcision harm, and society-wide denial. Fixed that for ya.
/r/MensRights23/02/12 03:31 AM
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You could turn this around and say that giving men more say over abortion is part of bringing men into society. Since men are legally bound to financially provide for children upon a woman's decision, why shouldn't women be bound to a pregnancy upon a man's decision? So here's the twist I'm getting at: Allow abortions, but only if the biological father approves. This policy would have more symmetry and fairness than the current regime. And one more thing: saying that men don't have their physica…
/r/MensRights22/02/12 03:21 PM
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I've learned to judge people by their actions, not their words.
/r/MensRights22/02/12 02:57 AM
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thank you
/r/MensRights21/02/12 03:54 PM
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The difference is that this event is happening (a) in public, not among friends, and (b) is centered around women's dominant power (sex and mating). In an attempt to construct an analogy centered in men's dominant mating strategy: "Hey guys, I've got a startup company, I've already got funding, and I need 20 high-powered individuals to make us all rich. If you think this sounds fun, come join us. Men only! And women, please don't be that girl who screams discrimination and runs to daddy governme…
/r/MensRights21/02/12 03:53 PM
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FTA: but please don't be that guy who shows up wherever we end up going. Let me ask y'all a simple question. If there were no men at Copacabana -- not due to force, I mean no men were interested in attending -- do you believe the OP and her group would want to go there?
/r/MensRights21/02/12 03:50 PM
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Is it too much to ask for you to put some miniscule mention of the contents of a youtube video in the title. I mean, it's a title... it's there to describe the contents of the post... so we, you know, don't have to wade through the entire post to decide if we're interested.
/r/MensRights21/02/12 03:31 PM
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The Gov't of Canada report "The Invisible Boy" might have some useful references. In particular, you might be interested in the section "Dynamics of Female-Perpetrated Abuse" Finally, there is an alarmingly high rate of sexual abuse by females in the backgrounds of rapists, sex offenders and sexually aggressive men – 59% (Petrovich and Templer, 1984), 66% (Groth, 1979) and 80% (Briere and Smiljanich, 1993). A strong case for the need to identify female perpetrators can be found in Table 4, which…
/r/MensRights21/02/12 05:53 AM
2

You're catching on!
/r/MensRights20/02/12 07:50 AM
1

srs doesn't have a monopoly on 'dumbass'.
/r/MensRights20/02/12 07:48 AM
1

Suppose I like you for irrational, sentimental reasons. The reasons may be irrational and sentimental, but they are my reasons. All human interaction is, at some level, selfish. It's ok, that's how the world works. This doesn't stop you from feeling good while doing good. It means you have a choice in how you pursue happiness and the effect you choose to have on others.
/r/MensRights20/02/12 07:46 AM
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ha ha ha ha ha welcome to my world. [mini-explanation: every f-ing time I follow a link to "The Daily Show"...]
/r/MensRights20/02/12 07:40 AM
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I duno; men in general need a better understanding of women's hypergamous nature. See OkCupid's blog regarding male-female messaging and ranking patterns.. To whit: Our chart shows how men have rated women, on a scale from 0 to 5. The curve is symmetric and surprisingly charitable: a woman is as likely to be considered extremely ugly as extremely beautiful, and the majority of women have been rated about “medium.” The chart looks normalized, even though it’s just the unfiltered opinions of our m…
/r/MensRights19/02/12 08:25 PM
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How's that work? Almost perfectly... for them. They're looking to close the remaining 20% "pay gap" (code word for "control gap"). Next step: a "single man tax" to enslave men who avoid marriage. Then it'll be "mission accomplished".
/r/MensRights19/02/12 08:08 PM
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and notice the 10,000-year-old canard: Oh, and one more thing... deprive us of access and we will deprive YOU access. If you take my meaning. Like we haven't heard that one before.... is this stuff written into their genes or something?!
/r/MensRights19/02/12 07:38 PM
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Nice cherry picking, asshole. Circumcision is a cause of premature ejaculation. The exact problem many women complain about. The foreskin, while promoting more sensitivity allows the man greater control and pleasure. The same thing happens to circumcised women -- decreased sensation, decreased pleasure, faster orgasm. And no, it's not a good thing. Now how about I cherry pick a comment in return: Exactly half of my sexual partners have been uncut (8 out of 16). And let me tell you - the cut ones…
/r/MensRights19/02/12 07:09 AM
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naive1000, see if you can spot the difference in the following two hypothetical quotes: I'm angry at my ex husband. I'd like to kill him. Are you with me, girls? vs I'm angry at my ex husband. I'd like to kill him. Were I to do so, however, it would be capital murder. I'll give you a hint: one fully acknowledges the murder victim's humanity (ie: laws against capital murder apply). The other doesn't. Can you tell the difference?
/r/MensRights18/02/12 09:56 PM
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FTA: Meanwhile, children happen. :O Yeah, because there's no bloody birth control methods available to women anywhere. Oh, except for all the drugs, condoms, caps, spermicidal creams and other birth control methods available from any drugstore. Fuck this shit. Most of these women know damn well what they're doing when they become pregnant. Meanwhile, women decide to have children to fulfill their emotional needs despite being poor and without a stable partner. Fixed that for the shit-headed lyin…
/r/MensRights18/02/12 09:51 PM
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Please do. Post a link to this reddit.
/r/MensRights18/02/12 09:37 PM
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Money doesn't motivate people to dedicate their lives to circumcision, like Pollock and Green above. As doctors, they have ample opportunities to profit, even in socialist Canada. Assuming they were merely greedy, their greed would have to be coupled with a profound indifference to the suffering of others. IE: they'd have to be psychopaths. I don't believe these people are unable to feel emotion. No. There is something more going on.
/r/MensRights18/02/12 09:36 PM
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Meet Dr. Catherine Stubbs Although we had little information about infant circumcision prior to meeting Catherine Stubbs my wife was very put off by the way she tried to talk us into it for our new son. Through the internet we found the BC College of Physicians & Surgeons had issued a policy statement strongly cautioning physicians against performing infant circumcision and many doctors had stopped doing them. Now we realize our ill-feelings were based in fact and Stubbs is capitalizing on a sit…
/r/MensRights18/02/12 04:33 PM
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A relevant quote from The Invisible Boy: Revisioning the Victimization of Male Children and Teens Despite the fact that over 300 books and articles on male victims have been published in the last 25 to 30 years, boys and teen males remain on the periphery of the discourse on child abuse. Few workshops about males can be found at most child abuse conferences and there are no specialized training programs for clinicians. Male-centred assessment is all but non-existent and treatment programs are ra…
/r/MensRights17/02/12 01:43 AM
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practices quackery and mutilates children's genitals for a living Fixed that for ya. Plus, he helped lay the groundwork for the mutilation of millions of men today. I'm sure if he was still alive, he'd orgasm to all the pain and suffering he's caused.
/r/MensRights17/02/12 01:24 AM
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I don't get any "consideration" for most social norms I follow. If that's how you feel, I encourage you to look a little deeper.
/r/MensRights16/02/12 05:22 PM
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Not "this is correct and morally praise worthy" just "this is how it is". I disagree. Contract law has the concept of "consideration". In short, "consideration" means if you're expected to give something, you get something in return. No consideration = no contract. The question on the table is not about whether women receive benefits under the social contract. The question is the validity social contract itself. The OP is saying, "If women no longer provide consideration to men, why do men conti…
/r/MensRights16/02/12 04:40 PM
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The pro-genital-mutilation camp always comes up with a justification for their child abuse. Every time their reason de-jour is sufficiently proven false, they dream up a new lie. This shit goes back over 100 years.: At the annual meeting of the AMA in 1875 Sayre delivered another important lecture on phimosis. Here he informed his audience that he had discovered that a long and adherent foreskin could cut off the circulation of blood to the spinal column, thereby causing lameness, curvature of t…
/r/MensRights16/02/12 04:21 PM
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FTA: Tobian and Gray are products of circumcising cultures. Their article exudes Freudian defences of denial and rationalisation [6,10]. The authors seem blinded by their own circumcision-generated emotional needs. The readers of such articles must be aware of the culture-of-origin and circumcision status of the authors, in order to properly evaluate assertions about MC [4]. Invariably, when biased opinions promoting MC are published by doctors trying to justify their own psychosexual wounding […
/r/MensRights16/02/12 04:15 PM
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Not as much as his victim.
/r/MensRights16/02/12 07:36 AM
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All circumcisions are botched
/r/MensRights16/02/12 07:35 AM
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Actions speak louder than words. ... lot of doctors out there making $$$ from mutilating little children's genitals.
/r/MensRights16/02/12 04:54 AM
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The psychological trauma caused by circumcision (and other forms of child abuse) actually change the structure of the brain. We can see the effects in MRI scans decades after the abuse has ended. The trauma often interrupts or prevents mother-son bonding, which leads to a whole host of other problems, most subtle and difficult to pin on circumcision to be sure, but present nontheless. It's not just about the lost foreskin. And we've not even touched on the human rights aspect. If what you say we…
/r/MensRights16/02/12 04:50 AM
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The pro-circumcision people always have a reason-de-jour. But it takes many years to complete scientific studies disproving the lies. So the science always lags. And then the pro-circumcision people just change the lie. Before I was born, the excuse was to prevent penile cancer. When I was born, it was UTI. Today it's STDs. Tomorrow it'll be something else. This has been going on for over 100 years in North America alone.
/r/MensRights16/02/12 04:47 AM
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how often do women wash under their clitoral hood? Same organ, same physiological function, same bacteria, same smegma. Most women never wash under there, and they're Just Fine.
/r/MensRights16/02/12 02:42 AM
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It takes a light touch to get any male-positive message on mainstream TV. He did us a favor.
/r/MensRights16/02/12 01:34 AM
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Remember, circumcision is not done for the benefit of the child; it is done for the benefit of the parents, doctor and society. The child is an unwilling participant, physically restrained and overpowered due to their relatively small size and helplessness. Is it wrong for you to cut off an important organ from a non consenting human being? Circumcision is torture, amputation, mutilation. Circumcision is a human rights violation. Maybe as a doctor you don't care about these things. If your resid…
/r/MensRights16/02/12 01:18 AM
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From the article: Finally, my husband came to me and said, “I think circumcision is barbaric and painful. I don't believe in the Covenant. If we weren't Jewish I would never do it. But I want the boys circumcised and I’m not changing my mind, even though it's irrational.” From the comments: Dear Samara, I believe your husband's stance on this issue has less to do with with religion and more to do with his struggling with his whole subconscious, internal distress over facing up to all the negativ…
/r/MensRights14/02/12 03:11 PM
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I think the perception is that singing about killing a man who has wronged you is somehow noble and empowering. Yes, fine. But you've missed the point. It's not right but I understand it. Dude, we too understand it, but we don't accept it.
/r/MensRights14/02/12 03:03 AM
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Entitlement. They think CEO's are given the job. Meritocracy is a meaningless word to the feminist mind. Like trying to explain a bicycle to a fish.
/r/MensRights13/02/12 03:50 PM
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Sounds like an opportunity to open a private educational institution; either K-12 or College.
/r/MensRights13/02/12 03:47 PM
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The most important thing you can do is change yourself. The old adage is true: "be the change you want to see in the world." If you do nothing else, do this one thing; it will accomplish far more than you'll ever know. I could say a lot more on this topic, but let me summarize with an analogy: it's one thing for prisoners to talk about breaking out of prison. It's a different thing entirely for someone to actually hop the wall and start living life outside the compound, returning regularly to te…
/r/MensRights13/02/12 02:53 AM
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While you may be technically correct, you're kinda missing the point.
/r/MensRights12/02/12 05:57 AM
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When you were young, it's not unlikely that someone taught you the foundations of a good relationship -- either overtly or through modelling. A lot of people know only exploitation during their formative years. It's hard to unwind that mindset as an adult, but we must try.
/r/MensRights11/02/12 07:15 PM
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If I understand the comic correctly, the (presumably) mother of the two children married the canine seen on the far left. The mother, mistaking the words spoken by the man as coming from the canine, is agreeing for some "romantic bedtime love" with her husband-canine (this relationship is reinforced by the veterinarian nature of an impending immunization). On the far-right, we see the (presumably) daughter is learning from her mother to marry a canine when older. "All women love dogs." Literally…
/r/MensRights11/02/12 06:31 PM
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Perhaps you're right. I'll provide the link here: A part of our Zeitgeist says: Men have responsibilities Women have rights and responsibilities Children have rights The OP fights the above skewed view of rights/responsibilities. The OP reminds men they deserve and should expect reciprocity -- in their relationships and society in general. If there is no reciprocity, what lawyers call 'consideration', then there is no contract, no relationship, only slavery and thievery. We men can choose to wit…
/r/MensRights11/02/12 06:19 PM
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Very good presentation.
/r/MensRights11/02/12 05:54 PM
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And the follow-up post: Ingredients of a strong relationship
/r/MensRights11/02/12 05:33 PM
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fair enough
/r/MensRights11/02/12 04:14 AM
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That's because it serves a political agenda. Mother-daughter incest is too ugly. So is emotional abuse. And neglect. The only form of child abuse suitable for public consumption is coincidentally the only form of child abuse predominantly perpetrated by adult males against female children. What a coincidence!
/r/MensRights11/02/12 03:01 AM
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I found your flaws. First one: women would distribute money equally when subjected to public scrutiny. My FTFY may not be perfect above, but it illustrates my point. Women's actions depend on whether their actions are observable by their peers and community. If they can secretly steal all the cash without their peers realizing it, many will. Which leads to your second error: likelyhood for a communistic society to function would increase dramatically the more women in official positions of power…
/r/MensRights10/02/12 04:51 PM
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Every time I visit the local coffee shop, during my work hours, there are a gaggle of women, with children or not, enjoying the afternoon without a care in the world. I think they call it "lounging". Some people call it "luxury". Feminists call it "oppression".
/r/MensRights10/02/12 08:22 AM
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Does this count? A Child Called 'It' describes one of the worst, documented cases of child abuse in California history. It tells the story of David Pelzer who was brutally beaten and starved by his emotionally unstable, alcoholic mother: a mother who played tortuous, unpredictable games that left him nearly dead. He had to learn how to play his mother's games in order to survive because she no longer considered him a son, but a slave; and no longer a boy, but an "it." Dave's bed was an old army …
/r/MensRights09/02/12 04:50 PM
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TL;DR: When you amputate an organ from a person, they lose the function of said organ. Whodathunk?
/r/MensRights09/02/12 04:44 PM
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The lie that more women attempt suicide than men. This is unknown and the few honest evaluations performed suggest it is untrue. It is more accurate to say, "most acknowledged and counted suicide attempts are women". Which is very different, I hope you'll agree. Many male suicide attempts are officially called something else, like "single vehicle accident". This is in contrast with actual successful suicides, which tend to leave a body. We're good at counting bodies. The bodies tell us: 86% of s…
/r/MensRights09/02/12 12:02 PM
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You're not offensive, although you're obviously trying hard to be. No. It's much worse. We've heard all your shit before. Many times. From sources wittier than you. The problem is, you're boring.
/r/MensRights09/02/12 04:58 AM
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FTA: “One of the things that people rarely talk about is that fundamentally the choice is the student's." People hate acknowledging men's agency, independence, or even their basic human rights. Just ask the newly-circumcised infant. Ask the spermjacked teen. Ask the newly divorced dad. Many of the issues we talk about here at /r/MensRights are born from a fear of men deciding for themselves, a fear of men deciding to act in their own best interest... "what if men don't do what we want?" "What if…
/r/MensRights09/02/12 04:46 AM
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FTA: Dr. Perron, a social science professor at the University of Quebec at Chicoutimi, led the attitudinal study, and said girls typically report more emotional distress and problems with self-esteem. “Maybe boys are just more happy-go-lucky and assume that success is assured, the same way it was for their dads and grandfathers,” he said. You're telling me the dude who studied the problem is using bullshit conjecture to turn male suffering into a happy-go-lucky story?! Into male bravado?! Holy s…
/r/MensRights09/02/12 04:41 AM
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FTA: No one is entirely sure what it all means. Rage. Major RAGE. We know exactly what this bloody well means. And we know what's causing it. The author and people like them ardently refuse to look at or admit the mountain of evidence, such as what we discuss here every day. Such as what Nathanson and Young documented in two monstrous volumes. As if that wasn't bad enough, they then act like "No one is entirely sure what it all means"?! These assholes would poke out their eyes so they couldn't s…
/r/MensRights09/02/12 04:35 AM
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Piss off, asshole.
/r/MensRights09/02/12 04:29 AM
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This. IllThinkOfOneLater, your downvotes are for spreading lies. Whether or not you are aware they are lies is irrelevant.
/r/MensRights09/02/12 04:26 AM
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I am happy this woman is doing something about child sexual abuse. However, I urge /r/MensRights to remember that our cultural-wide obsession with child sexual abuse is part of the wider effort to disregard and deny male suffering. How? Only 7% of child abuse is sexual abuse. And child sexual abuse is the only form of child abuse in which the majority of victims are female and the majority of perpetrators are male. Focusing on child sexual abuse to the exclusion of other forms of abuse is akin T…
/r/MensRights09/02/12 04:16 AM
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FTA: But she does not put the blame solely on the woman. She added: ‘Any man that has unprotected sex is stupid. He is asking for a big dent in the pocket.’ What do women always say about rape? Something about "don't blame the victim"? As a side note, when I practice protected sex in the only way I have power -- with a condom -- I feel practically nothing. Thanks, circumcision. Guess I just won't have sex... which was the goal of these assholes all along. Mission accomplished.
/r/MensRights07/02/12 08:17 AM
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As much as I appreciate GirlWritesWhat and enjoy her commentary, she's hardly the first person to speak out for men's rights. Why is her speaking out for men's rights more TED-worthy than, say, someone who's put his life on the line over many years, like Warren Farrel? The reason is simple: she's a woman. This grants her advantages over a man making similar arguments. For example, she's immune to shaming attacks ("you're just a bitter man who can't get laid"). Her arguments, her cognition, her c…
/r/MensRights05/02/12 06:18 PM
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Male sovereignty. I like the sound of that.
/r/MensRights05/02/12 06:06 PM
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Nicely done!
/r/MensRights05/02/12 07:04 AM
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Could everyone at that party been slapped with statutory rape charges even though we had no intention of committing a crime? If she's below the statutory limit, yes. And if your story is true, this post can be used as evidence against you.
/r/MensRights04/02/12 10:27 PM
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Reading all those comments, I still see nobody pointing out what is, to me, a very simple concept: The human right to a whole body and self-determination. Are men not human? Do men not deserve human rights? Or do human rights only apply to women?
/r/MensRights04/02/12 06:25 AM
2

You might be interested in the book "Mother Nature" by Hrdy.
/r/MensRights02/02/12 05:10 PM
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But now I'm a lazy ambitionless slacker Many fine people, including Buddhist hermits and monks, could be painted with that brush. My point is: you may be a lazy ambitionless slacker, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.
/r/MensRights02/02/12 05:07 PM
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you'd rather be sexually assaulted than undergo a common medical procedure I've had both. Actually, it was a pedophile, I was 6 year old, and it occurred over a 10 month period. Circumcision, for me, was orders of magnitude worse. Assault typically leaves only psychological trauma; circumcision not only causes psychological trauma, but also involves irreversible amputation and the subsequent deprivation of function and sensory input. leaves you less likely to transmit certain STDs You are misinf…
/r/MensRights02/02/12 08:16 AM
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You're downvoted? There are people who believe groping is worse than forced amputation?!
/r/MensRights01/02/12 04:11 AM
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I'd take molestation over permanent amputation. You thought I was comparing circumcision to something worse? Dude, I was being kind. This is why you don't understand; if you take all of the harm done in circumcision, and ignore it (which you are doing), of course the resulting picture looks strange to you. It's called denial. And you're in it, apparently.
/r/MensRights01/02/12 04:08 AM
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we tried that. decades ago. it failed.
/r/MensRights31/01/12 05:42 PM
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I disagree... with your emphasis on females. We men must see ourselves the way we want others to see us. "Be the change you want to see in the world," and all that. Seriously. Don't worry what women think. Lead by example. Change your view of men, of yourself. Women will follow (eventually).
/r/MensRights31/01/12 05:40 PM
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Hell, a couple of times I've been downvoted in here for saying that, while I wouldn't circumcise a son, I don't feel like it's that big of a deal that I was circumcised. Shit like that is why so many redditors hate this subreddit. Because you lack the ability to see past your culture and personal denial. To me, what you wrote sounds like this: Hell, a couple of times I've been downvoted in here for saying that, while I wouldn't use my 12-year-old daughter for sexual gratification, I don't feel l…
/r/MensRights31/01/12 05:25 PM
2

Wow, the comments in a main stream article is more male positive than the reactions here. I'm not surprised. Most MRAs (of both sexes) will never identify as such. The real force behind the MRM is not activists, it's the grotesque social, legal and political realities of our time. "The machine" is manufacturing disenfranchised MRAs every single day, and it's going to get worse before it gets better.
/r/MensRights28/01/12 04:35 PM
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perhaps
/r/MensRights26/01/12 07:41 AM
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Banning is a weak tool which only works on generally-honest people. Ever hear of sock-puppet accounts?
/r/MensRights26/01/12 05:06 AM
1

In (U.S.) medical school, they were taught one thing to do with the foreskin: cut it off. Why? Haven't you wondered? Also, surgeons don't make a living not doing surgery. It's like the tree feller you ask to look at that big oak next to your house. Of course he thinks it should come down. Surgeons are (supposed to be) held to a higher standard. They are in a position of trust. You flat-out claim surgeons betray this trust in a routine, even predictable manner. You are basically saying, "Don't as…
/r/MensRights26/01/12 05:01 AM
1

Money is undeniably involved. But there are countless ways surgeons can profit from forced-harvesting organs from unwilling victims. This isn't the end to the answer. You can start with: why are most of those other profitable ways to harvest human organs illegal?
/r/MensRights25/01/12 05:05 PM
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Now the next question: why is this information not widely known? Why do so many surgeons jump to amputation as their first and last response? And why is phimosis in a small percentage of the male population used as an excuse to mutilate the genitals of the majority of males who don't suffer from phimosis or anything else?
/r/MensRights25/01/12 02:29 AM
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FTA: Finally, the steep prison sentence for Third Degree Criminal Sexual Conduct has to be considered a factor in the above tragic outcomes. Would Raymond Bush have abducted and murdered the girl he thought he loved if he hadn't been looking at 15 years in prison? Would the kids at Huron High School dropped the matter if Joseph Tarnopolski hadn't been about to lose any chance at a good life? IE: harsh prison sentences for men are bad because they result in men committing yet-more violence agains…
/r/MensRights22/01/12 06:18 PM
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upvoted for 'muscle slut'
/r/MensRights21/01/12 09:44 PM
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Apparently some people do.
/r/MensRights21/01/12 04:10 PM
3

Nobody deserves to be treated as you were as a child.
/r/MensRights21/01/12 02:58 AM
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Bravo!
/r/MensRights21/01/12 02:57 AM
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I find it incredible how you managed to ignore 98% of the issue in your attempt at a flippant remark.
/r/MensRights20/01/12 07:02 AM
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people who want to see the majority of the male population growing up without psychological health. Traumatizing nearly half one's children while they're just babies is not how one acts when one seeks to build healthy communities. Quite the opposite, actually.
/r/MensRights20/01/12 06:59 AM
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Imagine calling female genital mutilation "not medically necessary" Rape: "not medically necessary" Sexual incest with young children: "not medically necessary" Severe beatings: "not medically necessary" Forced amputation of body parts, while the victim is tied down and screaming for their life: "Not Medically Necessary?"
/r/MensRights20/01/12 06:16 AM
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This. Amputation is never necessary. Stretching skin is a common plastic surgery technique. For example, to grow extra skin to graft over a large burned area. The foreskin is not normal skin, however. It contains musculo tissue and other things. So the stretching thing takes a little longer. Be patient. After much research, the technique I recommend is: 1) heat foreskin. A hot bath would work. Or those hot/cold pads you boil on the stove (wrapped in a towel!) 2) apply tension in the direction yo…
/r/MensRights18/01/12 05:20 AM
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From the comments: the problem is in no way as endemic as the normalisation of violence against women Uh, circumcision is not only legal, it's often paid for by medical insurance. How's that for "endemic and normalization of violence against men". The 1-in-4 sexual assault statistic is a myth. 85% circumcision rate in my generation is a fact.
/r/MensRights17/01/12 05:13 AM
1

Fair enough. My goal is not to belittle male-on-female rape. My goal is to point out the discrepancy between (a) the consequences of two events, versus (b) the general response by individuals in western society to said events and said consequences. In this case, circumcision vs rape.
/r/MensRights17/01/12 04:01 AM
2

he doesn't cite references, it's self-published From an academic standpoint, this is horrific!! No, I'm serious. The only way we escape our bias and "know" anything to any degree of certainty is by opening ourselves to criticism by others, or referencing works heavily criticized and vetted. This textbook of yours has zero academic value.
/r/MensRights17/01/12 03:59 AM
20

according to feminists, yes.
/r/MensRights16/01/12 04:57 AM
14

Your text contains 'facts' which, via personal experience and references, you can disprove. Awesome. What does this say about all the other 'facts' in the text? Do you still trust the author to present an unbiased and well-researched presentation of the facts?
/r/MensRights16/01/12 12:30 AM
1

kudos for founding a new subreddit. it'll help, however, if you can seed it with a few posts. You obviously feel strongly about SRS; I might recommend you submit a few links to SRS posts about which you felt strongly, and tell us why.
/r/MensRights15/01/12 05:41 PM
5

Rape typically only leaves psychological scars. A person has a chance of recovering from psychological scars, even years later. In contrast to circumcision which leaves both psychological trauma and physical, permanent amputation. There's no 'recovering' from amputation. Amputation means you lose the use and benefit of the amputated body part. If that body part was important to you or your life, too bad.
/r/MensRights15/01/12 05:34 PM
6

Somehow I doubt this article will get the publicity in western press to match other, erm, "studies".
/r/MensRights14/01/12 03:50 AM
3

I sense a rationalization hamster...
/r/MensRights14/01/12 02:07 AM
11

The war against male friendship continues...
/r/MensRights14/01/12 01:57 AM
6

Where's all the pro-mutilation shitheads?
/r/MensRights12/01/12 02:12 AM
4

why are you here?
/r/MensRights11/01/12 04:58 PM
2

That's called "small government" Edit: joking aside, this is a really complicated issue. I don't have the energy right now to go into depth...
/r/MensRights11/01/12 03:04 AM
1

Time for the man tax.
/r/MensRights10/01/12 05:18 PM
2

What special male privileges?
/r/MensRights10/01/12 05:14 PM
2

Davos and Bilderberg: "Mission Accomplished"
/r/MensRights10/01/12 04:40 AM
3

Next up: why does the sun rise each morning? Why do objects fall to earth? Why is water wet? Why does ice cream melt? (because Chuck Norris wants it to...) BBC: Answering all the unbelievable and unexplainable questions of our time. /sarc
/r/MensRights10/01/12 04:36 AM
6

My $0.02... Regardless of your relationships - with family, spouse, children - happiness comes from within you. This is the secret of those who have achieved what Buddhists call enlightenment. The enlightened still feel pain, hunger, even lonliness. But they have learned these experiences do not necessitate unhappiness. Happiness comes from within you. Which is why those seeking happiness in someone else, or anything outside themselves, inevitably find disappointment. If you seek happiness, you …
/r/MensRights10/01/12 04:33 AM
2

Psychological health is the foundation of human autonomy. Anything other than restoring psychological health to ourselves and our young is merely a band-aid solution.
/r/MensRights09/01/12 02:38 AM
5

If you're talking about getting your clit squished, I can't comment. But I can say that, as a man, there is no pain quite like getting one's balls hit. How can pain be different? Suppose someone punches you in the shoulder. Hard. There's an initial shock followed by abrupt pain. The pain slowly goes away as you rub your arm. Your arm, if bruised, will be sore and sensitive for a day or so. Testicles. Nothing like that. Let's start with a "tap". So light that if you did it to someone's shoulder t…
/r/MensRights07/01/12 10:57 PM
6

Judge feminists by their actions, not their words.
/r/MensRights07/01/12 10:35 PM
3

during the depression, people would be fired because someone came in and offered to do the same job for less than the current employees. This isn't a right-left issue, it's a corruption, big-government and economic fascism issues.
/r/MensRights07/01/12 05:09 PM
4

You don't know much about how we treat female perpetrators of child abuse... Just one example: When we look into the history of male rapists, the majority were abused by women when they were young. Here's my question to you: where are all those female offenders? Because they're not in jail. The male rapists are in jail, but the female child abusers are not. Either you believe in the Female "Abuse Fairy" who visits young boys and tortures them at night, or there are a lot of female perpetrators "…
/r/MensRights06/01/12 05:11 PM
5

Men are responsible for all the evil in the world. With no man in their life, what did they have to fear?!
/r/MensRights06/01/12 02:38 AM
3

TO be blunt, this case is "interesting" because it lacks a male to play the role of scapegoat.
/r/MensRights06/01/12 02:37 AM
1

yeah
/r/MensRights05/01/12 03:06 AM
3

Based on book I read with male victims describing their life... My trust is not for betraying "When I have sex with my girlfriend, I feel like I'm cheating on my mother." (^ actual quote) Women can end child sexual abuse.
/r/MensRights05/01/12 03:01 AM
6

imagine living through it.
/r/MensRights05/01/12 02:34 AM
3

They have a little "no morality" zone in their head where they put the baby while he is traumatized and violently physically and sexually assaulted. There might be more than a little sadism and sexual dominance issues step into the room to help with the circumcision.
/r/MensRights05/01/12 02:32 AM
1

Judge them by their actions, not their words.
/r/MensRights05/01/12 02:16 AM
1

if women really were better at everything, they wouldn't need a book to tell the world; everyone would know it. pro-pa-gan-da...
/r/MensRights04/01/12 05:23 AM
1

You can buy a car for the price the OP is probably paying for TV. You're really stretching here.
/r/MensRights04/01/12 04:49 AM
-3

You're making excuses. Life happens by doing it. Think about what you really enjoy doing -- passionately. It may be making cupcakes, reconciling balance sheets, or yacking with friends. The point is, you just did it. Lots. And over time you became good at it. The important step is: just do it. People who are motivated just do it. Because they derive pleasure from doing it. If you were discouraged by someone in your past, you must understand they did you harm. But this is a separate issue.
/r/MensRights03/01/12 05:15 PM
2

And there is something very wrong—something worth feeling guilt over—about promoting that narrow definition of masculinity to other men. Guilt, in the modern western sense, is a wasted emotion. It's been overused and abused. Usually to realize control over someone's behavior.
/r/MensRights03/01/12 07:04 AM
3

if she was inclined, she'd already have the skills. Few people are sufficiently obtuse such that basic maintenance of house/car are beyond them. Nice try though.
/r/MensRights03/01/12 06:12 AM
5

I intend to go a different direction. Let's start with a new premise: men matter. men are full-fledged people. The full gamut of human rights apply to men. The first step is to believe this ourselves, fully, to internalize it. Even in the face of bigots and haters. Be the change you want to see in the world.
/r/MensRights03/01/12 05:13 AM
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sooo.. you're saying that those with greater skill are unreasonable to expect consideration in relationships with other people? What happened to "I scratch your back, you scratch mine?" I guess you're one of those people who ask lawyers for free legal advice at cocktail parties?
/r/MensRights03/01/12 04:59 AM
2

Most people read the OP and see sexism. I see an absurdity clearly demonstrating double-standards, lack of respect in certain matters, and people taking others for granted. All are topics we regularly discuss here.
/r/MensRights03/01/12 04:56 AM
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It helps if you're interested in house and garage and car-fixing. If you were interested, you would already have said skills. There is nobody stopping you from typing "car repair" into google. People often misunderstand the difference between ability and inclination. Inclination = motivation to learn + develop hard-won skills.
/r/MensRights03/01/12 04:50 AM
3

I shall call this move the "Dreaded English Teacher Double Suplex of Doom".
/r/MensRights03/01/12 04:45 AM
2

To many female eyes, the "massive amounts of other men forced to the very bottom" are not men. Hence they deserve no consideration whatsoever. This applies double for feminists who believe those "men forced to the very bottom" were born with privilege -- privilege they as women were and are denied. IE: to end up on the bottom, feminists believe those men are double-extra-super losers.
/r/MensRights03/01/12 04:31 AM
1

Feminists will speak truth in the open, but cloak it behind layer upon layer of plausible deniability. "It's just a joke"... "she was insane"... "she was a rad-fem who doesn't represent true feminists"... Feminists: Judge their actions, not their words.
/r/MensRights02/01/12 11:31 PM
3

This is an okay article. And good to see in the non-MRM sphere. But I have to point out, FTA: Much has been written on how women are gaining power in the new economy, out-performing men in education, and even increasingly out-earning them. Kay Hymowitz’s book provides a detailed look at the dysfunctional culture that dominates much of young men’s lives — at a great cost to them, and to women too. Notice how different the above sounds if I omit just the four last words... Much has been written on…
/r/MensRights02/01/12 11:10 PM
0

FTA: So the world will become more like the Middle East. Not good. Why do you think the middle east is ... like the middle east? Oh, maybe you thought we're different because we're inherently better than the middle east. ... think again. We're just like the middle east.
/r/MensRights31/12/11 10:21 PM
1

I'm not sure I followed all of that, but... my (non-denominational) god, Cartesian_Duelist, that's awesome! Thank you.
/r/MensRights31/12/11 06:11 PM
4

Young men shun marriage over divorce fears. Fixed that for the OP.
/r/MensRights30/12/11 09:54 PM
7

According to LVMPD, recognizing and acknowledging domestic violence against men is extremely rare and those cases resulting in death are even more unusual. Fixed that for them.
/r/MensRights30/12/11 03:24 AM
2

The prosecutor has a bone to pick. I think there's a phrase for this situation... oh yeah: abuse of power.
/r/MensRights29/12/11 09:38 AM
3

More and more pop culture reads like /r/MensRights. We in /r/MensRights are not alone; we merely arrived earlier than most.
/r/MensRights29/12/11 09:33 AM
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You don't have a clue how science works. Nor propaganda, apparently.
/r/MensRights29/12/11 09:31 AM
1

You might genuinely be delusional. I'm a product of my society ;P
/r/MensRights29/12/11 09:17 AM
5

They are using colors and different percentages to give the illusion that more women than men are uninsured. IE: The big spotch of color in the middle correlates to the lowest uninsured rate for men and the highest uninsured rate for women... making it look as though women have an overall higher uninsured rate than men... when the exact opposite is true (but they fiddled with the color to disguise the fact). TL;DR Modern Feminism: "The radical idea that women have it worse, even when they don't.…
/r/MensRights29/12/11 07:24 AM
1

Looks like yet another case of a misinformed father-in-denial wanting to hurt his children as he was himself hurt. IE: He's made it clear that if we have boys, he wants to have them circumcised. He is circumcised. When people don't deal with their "issues" they pass them onto their children -- like family heirlooms. Doesn't matter if it's emotional abuse, physical abuse, sexual abuse... or violent genital mutilation. Fortunately for the OP's future sons, the OP has exercised her human capacity f…
/r/MensRights28/12/11 04:55 AM
12

Meh. Welcome all the same.
/r/MensRights27/12/11 10:37 AM
6

Round and round they go. It's articles like this which fool people into believing feminism or feminist thinking moves constructively towards a destination. I think we had this discussion, oh, 20-30 years ago. The marketers finally gave up on this gender-neutral bullshit because their first responsibility is to make money.
/r/MensRights27/12/11 05:20 AM
5

As far as I can tell, it's a socio-political statement, not an actual product intended for use.
/r/MensRights27/12/11 05:02 AM
5

If our society was concerned about men, children or fairness, paternity testing would be standard and government-paid-for 100% of the time.
/r/MensRights26/12/11 10:10 PM
5

It's called incest.
/r/MensRights25/12/11 06:19 AM
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because most people see nothing wrong with men feeling stigmatized around children.
/r/MensRights24/12/11 08:45 PM
9

Wow, a bunch of angry bitches dominating a beat-down white knight pussy beggar. Like I've never seen that before...
/r/MensRights24/12/11 07:16 AM
6

You don't know much about life, padowan.
/r/MensRights22/12/11 06:15 AM
6

A soulless mercenary is a soulless mercenary, be they male or female.
/r/MensRights14/12/11 07:44 AM
8

Lies. All lies. What does this tell us about the WaPo?
/r/MensRights14/12/11 07:42 AM
1

Really? Are you sure? It isn't the other way around? Or maybe they're both equally fucked up, but in different ways? Mutilating the genitals of an infant permanently rewires their brain structure -- we can observe it with MRI scans -- in a way which sets the stage for their entire life. I think what you mean is: A child who has started to develop sexually can verbally report their loss and suffering, whereas an infant, lacking the capacity for speech, can be safely ignored and their suffering de…
/r/MensRights10/12/11 03:13 AM
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The re-integration of men into society will not happen because women change their minds. It will happen because the women of today grow old and die, leaving the women of tomorrow who grew up with different ideas. Why? Because while individuals might change (with great personal effort), most people in a group won't. Articles like the OP are signs that today's 20-something woman is caught between wanting healthy adult male companionship and cultural misandry. These women represent the beachhead ag…
/r/MensRights09/12/11 04:04 PM
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I sense the author is deeply conflicted. She's on the cusp of admitting to herself that our cultural misandry has gone too far. But she's still caught up in the man-bashing culture of her time. She wants to speak out against man-bashing, but cannot voice direct opposition for some reason. She therefore resorts to indirect and soft-shaming language. For example: How a thinking person could... The double-standard ... is just so outdated. So why is asking for equality, the “end of men?” She's runni…
/r/MensRights09/12/11 03:53 PM
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It's not all feminism's fault. For example, circumcision is not feminism's fault. We have cultural and systemic disregard for men's experiences, based on a biological seed but amplified to grotesque proportions. Feminism has leveraged this misandry to advance their political grab for power. An actor might say feminism "played to the crowd."
/r/MensRights09/12/11 03:42 PM
1

The guy you're respond to... he's whining about whiners. Need I say more?
/r/MensRights09/12/11 02:41 AM
4

You evidently have some hurt you are trying to deny, and its leaking out.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 04:54 PM
5

making boys or girls of any age is child abuse.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 04:53 PM
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I agree. I also cannot believe millions of mothers and fathers did that to their sons, and continue to today. I cannot believe thousands of doctors betray their patients trust and break their hypocratic oath to "first, do no harm". Talk about monsters. I cannot believe sadism of this nature is institutionalized in our society. Only difference in this kid's case: he was allowed to keep his foreskin until he was old enough to understand and intellectually and consciously realize his full loss. Mos…
/r/MensRights08/12/11 07:55 AM
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Newsflash: liberal vs conservative = belongs elsewhere. Your brainwashing is showing. (I am so fucking tired of the false right-vs-left debate. What a crock. Talk about a pointless debate to keep the sheep distracted.)
/r/MensRights08/12/11 07:50 AM
2

just provide a descriptive summary of the link contents in your submission title and refrain from issuing commands.
/r/MensRights08/12/11 03:15 AM
0

If women were so "welded to the nitty gritty" as the author claims, we wouldn't have half so many problems in the world as we do. We wouldn't have to look the other way in the face of mother-son incest. We wouldn't have to look the other way at female domestic violence (what Erin Pizzey called "emotional terrorists"). We wouldn't have to worry about the falling grades of boy in the female-dominated school system. Fuck this shit. Here's my take: If we stopped celebrating the female ego while slam…
/r/MensRights06/12/11 05:44 AM
2

But one is socially and legally prohibited, while the other is virtually sanctioned. Big difference.
/r/MensRights03/12/11 03:35 AM
2

You think in terms of master-slave. I think in terms of Sun Tzu.
/r/MensRights02/12/11 04:12 PM
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Not many. Mother-son emotional incest is practically celebrated in our society. Yet broad social acceptance does not reduce the harm to the son. Mr. white knight is wearing female-purity colored glasses.
/r/MensRights02/12/11 04:10 PM
2

And the fact that you're not incapacitated or dead tells us... ... that there's not many people running around looking to incapacitate and kill. You fear the magnitude of consequences from an assault, not the frequency of assault. Big difference.
/r/MensRights02/12/11 04:03 PM
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Women are and always have been as "perverted" as men. You just choose not to see it, mr. shining white knight.
/r/MensRights02/12/11 06:52 AM
5

From the comments: Blah blah, free speech. I don't really think free speech should cover incitement to murder. In a way, I see this as being murder's version of child porn. So, about that whole Valerie Solanas thing...
/r/MensRights02/12/11 06:50 AM
5

Be happy they haven't kicked us off altogether. As has happened to many, many other MRA forums over the years.
/r/MensRights02/12/11 06:47 AM
2

This is a crime against humanity perpetrated in front of our eyes.
/r/MensRights02/12/11 02:21 AM
3

Humans are social creatures. Sharing our internal emotional state, and feeling heard by those around us, especially when we feel the need, is critical to maintain our emotional sense of belonging. Keeping everything bottled up inside is not natural and leads to psychological ill health. The fact I have to explain this to you or anyone else is a big red flag. Fun Fact: when a person experiences a potentially-traumatic event, it's not the event itself which results in trauma; it's the actions of t…
/r/MensRights29/11/11 04:52 PM
2

I think its tragic that Gary Speed has comitted suicide and the worst part is that no-one even knows why he did it. Oh, I think we have some ideas. But we, as a society, are steadfast in ignoring them. If we allow that men are human... but look how we treat them... oh my! How uncomfortable.
/r/MensRights29/11/11 04:49 PM
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This is different. There ARE physical differences between boys and girls. Dude. Nobody is going to argue against you. Because you're right. But that's not the point. Physical differences are not the issue -- never has been. Feminist biology-defying policies are the issue. Women have been banging the no-gender-difference drum for decades. And now we have women being adversely affected by a policy put in place by women, to fight what women perceived as male privilege. Oh the irony. The question yo…
/r/MensRights28/11/11 05:35 AM
0

It's voluntary the same way taxes are voluntary. Meaning you didn't make them come down and kick your ass. You did it with the threat of violence alone.
/r/MensRights26/11/11 10:11 PM
2

Great video. But I'd prefer a description in the title instead of an order (WATCH THIS VIDEO) hidden behind a guilt word (SHOULD, OR YOURE A BAD PERSON).
/r/MensRights26/11/11 10:08 PM
6

The big discussion is because it's not about HIV, or cleanliness. It's about people fighting to cut off other people's genitals to deprive them of sexual pleasure. That's the elephant in the circumcision debate.
/r/MensRights25/11/11 12:33 PM
3

FTA: The problem is not the lack of shine and bounce of your fluffy bits in comparison to pixilated fantasy. It’s that the 50 year feedback loop of entitlement and unaccountability, and male facing blame and anger have rendered the selection of flesh over pixels an idiot’s choice. Exactly.
/r/MensRights25/11/11 02:56 AM
6

which is why a grass-roots intolerance for circumcision must come first. Politicians follow, not lead.
/r/MensRights24/11/11 07:15 AM
5

The pros are lies and human rights violations. Looks?! Why the fuck do people think they can perform designer-surgery on their newborn?! ... but only if its a boy. The right to self determination is considered a human right. Notice how, even in a "balanced" article willing to mention Goldman's work, the author still shies away from suggesting men have human rights. That men are people. This is still a "don't go there" zone. Because if men are human ... yet we treat them so horribly... oh my, how…
/r/MensRights23/11/11 03:39 PM
1

there is never a reason to amputate. If the phimosis is that bad, they can just make an incision to relieve the tightness but otherwise leave the skin intact.
/r/MensRights22/11/11 03:06 AM
1

I talked to my parents, they told me they "did what they thought was best for me". I can almost buy that excuse but what i CAN'T buy is the fact that they never spoke to me about it. Even though they knew i was going through pain. It feels like they avoided any form of responsibility after they realized what they had done. You worded perfectly how I feel about my parents. Cowards while playing god with my life.
/r/MensRights22/11/11 03:05 AM
1

Blame google.
/r/MensRights20/11/11 07:15 PM
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About 10-15% of the male population is circumcised. If you include their female partners, 15% * 6,840,507,000 = 1 billion max. And the rest think that 1 billion needs their head examined. And they do. As do you.
/r/MensRights20/11/11 04:22 AM
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yes he is. he's diligently and deliberately ignoring intact benefits.
/r/MensRights20/11/11 04:20 AM
12

religion is used by many as an excuse to not think. Not thinking and disrespecting others carries blame. Religion is just religion. Unless you mean religion = brainwashing, in which case I agree.
/r/MensRights20/11/11 04:18 AM
14

Thank you for sharing. I want to add that the whole point of neonatal circumcision is to ensure you never have a choice and, furthermore, deprive you of ever knowing anything different so that your complaints may be dismissed. "How can you miss something you've never had?" <-- The OP research puts the lie to this fucked-up attitude.
/r/MensRights19/11/11 05:36 PM
1

As I mentioned in my other comment, segregation for you would be positive, yet it's treating the symptom not the problem. The social acceptance of your treatment is the real problem. Segregation is easier to implement, granted, versus changing people's ideas. Most people stop changing their minds after the age of 20.
/r/MensRights17/11/11 05:08 PM
2

I hate the idea. I think some segregation might be okay, but this happens naturally (metalwork vs sewing). But the idea of forced and complete segregation...maybe only for the puberty years has merit. The big problem I see is that segregation is treating a lot of symptoms, but does little to cure the underlying problem.
/r/MensRights17/11/11 05:06 PM
8

It is. You caught the old "men's experience of life doesn't matter" canard. Good call.
/r/MensRights17/11/11 04:18 AM
8

How original. I could write a computer program to spit out these types of comments. Which is to say: your contribution has zero informational value.
/r/MensRights17/11/11 04:12 AM
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the younger generations are increasingly disillusioned. Chivalry dies with the older generations. Then the fun begins. I kinda wish I would be around to see it.
/r/MensRights17/11/11 04:10 AM
1

to be a bizarre reversal of common sense and every day experience? You've described a great deal of what we discuss in /r/MensRights.
/r/MensRights16/11/11 05:11 AM
10

Want != Willing to ... to the surprise of many women.
/r/MensRights16/11/11 05:10 AM
4

she does not see men as people. Bingo.
/r/MensRights14/11/11 04:09 PM
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This article is profound for a simple reason: It acknowledges the man's experience of life is important. And yes, I firmly believe the sexual marketplace had to fall apart before women would notice something isn't right. Hence, this article is a sign of things to come. Men will continue to check-out of society, women will find it increasingly difficult to find long-term companionship, and we will see more of these articles re-discovering the fact "men are people."
/r/MensRights13/11/11 04:45 PM
2

MRM isn't a movement; MRM is millions of men coming to the same conclusions individually. Some of us discover we're not alone.
/r/MensRights13/11/11 04:34 PM
1

And circumcision is the literal death of the psychologically healthy and physically whole person who might-have-been.
/r/MensRights13/11/11 04:32 PM
2

I'm sorry you're circumcised, even if you're too much in denial to admit you're sorry too.
/r/MensRights13/11/11 08:57 AM
1

Lookup books by Nathanson and Young
/r/MensRights12/11/11 07:28 AM
1

Old post, yet strangely relevant today! Whodathunk? Keep'em coming.
/r/MensRights11/11/11 02:38 PM
1

We are now fighting over the fact that we agree with each other.
/r/MensRights11/11/11 05:27 AM
1

this is the supposed 'logic' of the pro-mutilation camp.
/r/MensRights10/11/11 05:04 PM
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FTA: She argues that an epidemic of narcissism has created millions of young adults who think they don’t have to work or study hard because they’re already smart. “It’s delusional thinking,” she told a conference of psychologists in Australia. In the above quote, the author shifts blame and obfuscates the root cause. Men are not turning away from society due to narcissism -- men are turning away because we've done an accurate cost-benefit analysis and found society wanting. We’ll need more than …
/r/MensRights10/11/11 04:27 PM
1

A different society would recognize the hatred and self-serving abuse this woman has rained upon her daughter.
/r/MensRights10/11/11 07:17 AM
6

You are so mixed up, I can't tell where your denial ends and your brainwashing begins. But insults aside, I have a genuine suggestion for you: stop judging people. Because howsoever you judge others, you judge yourself. And ultimately other people don't care what you think of them... but you care how you feel about yourself. If you continue to judge yourself as lacking, you'll never enjoy life.
/r/MensRights10/11/11 07:13 AM
1

An arm can get gangrene. You're trying too hard.
/r/MensRights10/11/11 04:33 AM
9

Idiots start their lies right from the get-go: A painless, live-saving surgery painless. Yeah. Which is why, when circumcision is performed on adults, they usually use a general anesthetic because local anesthetic is insufficient to block all the pain. ... and an adult patient is not expected to tolerate that level of pain. fucking liars. got any more made-up lies to justify your sexual assault and mutilation fetish?
/r/MensRights10/11/11 04:30 AM
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This is not incompatible with Men's Rights in any way though. Except for that pesky human right to a whole body, the human right to self determination, and the human right to be free from torture. Pesky details.
/r/MensRights10/11/11 04:27 AM
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An excellent article! I have only one disagreement: Relationships equal life; a life without them is misery. The author may believe this is true, but it's not. Happiness comes from within. All other elements and/or people are merely props. The lie in the above quote is proven by hermits and Buddhist monks. Monks and hermits may spend years alone yet in bliss. Continually in bliss. For years at a time. Happiness comes from within. And much of society's conditioning is designed to break your inter…
/r/MensRights10/11/11 04:11 AM
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Comment for your video, regarding men sharing their emotions. The situation is worse (for men) than you describe. There are many women who do not want to hear men's emotions or be shown male vulnerability. When faced with male vulnerability and emotional openness, many women (and men) consider it weakness -- an instant sexual turn-off. Not to mention invoking women's mother-instinct is sexual suicide for a man. If a guy wants success in the sexual marketplace, he learns early on to keep certain …
/r/MensRights08/11/11 03:27 PM
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most of the public culture was created by men for men, This is a lie. It would be closer to the truth to say, "most of the public culture was created by men hoping their achievement might land them in bed with a woman." The only parts of our culture "by men for men" are the same parts of our culture broadly maligned and ridiculed: video games, sports, science, etc. "nerd", "geed", "jock". Women, on the other hand, have been driven by the biological imperatives of motherhood This is also a lie. J…
/r/MensRights06/11/11 07:02 PM
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Kudos!
/r/MensRights06/11/11 07:01 PM
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In therapy there are two branches (among many): psychoanalytic psychotherapy resolves issues through a deep understanding of their origin and current manifestation. IE: kill the root and the weed dies. cognitive psychotherapy believes a change in behavior is sufficient to realize an improved life. If you sufficiently cut off the head, the root cannot grow back. Likewise: (I suspect) Elam is in the psychoanalytic psychotherapy camp intent on killing the root. He wants to see men achieve deep emot…
/r/MensRights06/11/11 06:35 PM
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Headline should read, "Has our systemic abuse of boys gone too far? Has our war for power over men started to blow back?"
/r/MensRights05/11/11 05:30 PM
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But they like the screams of the children, and the feeling of power, and the sexual sadism. "Take this, SON. Who's the all powerful man NOW? Look what I can do to you!"
/r/MensRights04/11/11 02:03 AM
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Boys become men through mimesis This is a lie. This notion that men are somehow "made" through role models or intervention by adults is fucking bullshit. You know what's made? Slaves. Slaves are made. And slavery is a more appropriate and accurate description of modern society's concept of manhood. Genuine, strong men evolve from boys in the absence of abuse and the presence of nurturing and support.
/r/MensRights04/11/11 01:56 AM
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An early MRA called Irlandes wrote an article about a class of men he called the destroyers.
/r/MensRights04/11/11 01:46 AM
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CIRP.org is a good site. Their site has a good library of scientific articles including this one by Boyle et al with 150 references. Also check r/AgainstCircumcision, /r/Circumcision, this old post to /r/MensRights. Search for 'circumcision' in /r/MensRights.
/r/MensRights04/11/11 01:14 AM
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/r/MensRights is not a center for coordination. /r/MensRights is triage for gender-war casualties. People come here to learn -- to learn they're not alone. And another thing: the timeframe on this "movement" as you call it is decades, not days. Now kindly piss off.
/r/MensRights03/11/11 03:31 AM
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Feminism is about power, not logic.
/r/MensRights03/11/11 03:27 AM
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the evil beyond all evil My grade 2 teacher was a pedo, fucked me up seriously. I rage that I am now a suspect of pedophilia simply because I'm a man. Fucked when I was young, fucked when I'm old. But for reference, I'd gladly take 2 additional years with Mr. KidFiddler if it meant I could un-do my circumcision. I hate doctors way more than I hate Mr. KidLover -- my pedo only left psychological scars. Amputation leaves a hole in your life which nobody can heal. Ever. You die with it. You want to…
/r/MensRights03/11/11 03:18 AM
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<sigh> I obviously need to post more. My score is sadly lacking.
/r/MensRights02/11/11 06:47 AM
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Wow, what unusual female behavior... not.
/r/MensRights30/10/11 04:48 PM
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FTA: Kimberly Boone, a college financial aid manager from Winter Springs, Florida, set the couple's bedroom on fire in December 2008 while Robert Boone slept. ... for his life insurance money. I'm sure she provides great "financial advice" to our college-educated girls. She drugged her husband with the anti-anxiety medication Xanax, making it harder for him to escape the fire, they said. Investigators found search records on her laptop for information on making someone violently ill, poisoning, …
/r/MensRights30/10/11 03:48 AM
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From the comments: Here is a somewhat unusual, anecdotal point of view on this subject. In my professional millieu, I am around a lot of smart, attractive late 20s / early 30s girls who have long term boyfriends that to my best judgment are greater betas to lesser alphas, but no marriage or children on the horizon. Further, those girls are really wanting to get that ring and start a family. I talk to a few of them, and overhear conversations of others. The boyfriends won’t shit or get off the po…
/r/MensRights29/10/11 08:33 PM
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Unfair law: I'm missing most of my erogenous tissue because our society gets a hard on at forcibly amputating men's genitals... while we're defenseless infants, screaming in terror as our tissue is carved from our body. No painkillers -- painkillers wouldn't be fun. Leave nice, big, psychological scars. Section 268 of the Criminal Code of Canada: Every one commits an aggravated assault who wounds, maims, disfigures or endangers the life of the complainant. ... For greater certainty, in this sect…
/r/MensRights26/10/11 03:21 AM
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Circumcision. Actually, any physical trauma suffered by male genitals. Childhood emotional neglect. Bullying Suicide Need I go on?
/r/MensRights26/10/11 01:36 AM
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Whoever produced that Dr. Pepper ad campaign hit it out of the fucking park. Kudos to the marketing geniuses.
/r/MensRights26/10/11 01:28 AM
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FTA: “You’d have had to open it with your teeth,” he said by way of explanation, before rushing ahead and opening a second door for me. He not only held a door open for her; he also produced a cover story to protect them both from the PC-police -- with the author as one of the police officers. Put another way, this man's actions amounted to, "Allow me to do this nice thing for you, and here is a tithe so you don't bite my balls off."
/r/MensRights26/10/11 01:13 AM
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But if you hold the door open for me at the top, not only will I be immensely grateful, not only will it brighten up my day, but next time, I will try and remember to say thank you. Oh, that's so big of you. Saying "thank you" to a man... how ... progressive.
/r/MensRights26/10/11 01:09 AM
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From the comments: Comment from Dr. Tara J. Palmatier I read her apology. It’s not an apology. Apologies never include the word, “but.” What’s more, she is still defending her actions. This woman, with her disingenuous apology, is more dangerous than the other bigots on R-H. Why? Because she was able to con some folks with her expedient crocodile tears and dubious mea culpa. She’s not sorry for what she did. She’s sorry she’s being publicly called out for it. Big difference. She still believes p…
/r/MensRights25/10/11 03:20 PM
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FTA: men are more likely than women to migrate overseas [outside Western countries] and stay there; women are more likely than men to migrate [to Western countries] No surprises here.
/r/MensRights24/10/11 08:41 AM
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Where have all the smart men gone? Away from you. (they're smart, see)
/r/MensRights24/10/11 08:37 AM
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try searching for 'circumcision' in this subreddit, or review /r/circumcision and /r/againstcircumcision
/r/MensRights23/10/11 07:08 PM
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it was medically necessary You Fucking Liar. Amputation is seldom necessary. Did this boy have gangrene? Cancer? No? Then amputation was grotesque and unnecessary. As others have pointed out, stretching, steroids, or in extreme cases a few careful incisions are all that was necessary. Your insistence that amputation was appropriate signifies your profound disregard for the male foreskin and disrespect for the men who must bear the lifelong scars of circumcision.
/r/MensRights23/10/11 10:13 AM
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To start, I didn't downvote you. Circumcision is seldom necessary, even in medical cases involving paraphimosis. What they did to this child is akin to amputating a hand to treat a minor finger deformity. Paraphimosis can be treated with a few, small, carefully placed incisions. There is zero need for amputation, zero need for loss of tissue -- only a lessening of the tension in the ridged band. Yet... You have discussed "facts" which implicitly advocate amputation. Why I'm raging on you is beca…
/r/MensRights23/10/11 10:12 AM
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I'm curious why you're so concerned about accurately representing the cases where circumcision is justified. What about the rest of the cases? The other 99.9%? Where do you point out that 99.9% of circumcisions are unnecessary? Your bias is evident.
/r/MensRights23/10/11 08:06 AM
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Right vs left is a red-herring. Sometimes I suspect the greatest weakness most ppl have is getting out of the right-left smokescreen. They never get past it, and hence they never understand the real social forces.
/r/MensRights23/10/11 06:10 AM
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exactly.
/r/MensRights23/10/11 06:05 AM
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and exceedingly rare. Medically necessary circumcision is like 0.0000001% of the circumcisions performed.
/r/MensRights23/10/11 06:03 AM
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Guess that's what you get when people vote the Tories in.... No, that's what you get when you hire graduates from "gender studies" programs into government to make public policy and/or outreach programs. The gender war and feminist hate movement are not unique to nor tied to any political party.
/r/MensRights22/10/11 08:42 PM
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Women wanted equality but diminished men's identity in the process I disagree. Women wanted to become men and they want/expect to like it. But they still want all the advantages of being women. Message from reality: 1) You can't always choose what you like and don't like. Some things are hard-wired into our brains. 2) you can't have your cake and eat it too. And if, by some perversion, you manage to have+eat cake, it's because you've taken the cake away from someone else.
/r/MensRights22/10/11 08:38 PM
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Cannot. Upvote. Enough.
/r/MensRights22/10/11 08:33 PM
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I consider the OP a form of trolling. Why? Because it's a leading question which follows this basic recipe: 1) ask "what are you doing"... but disqualify a bunch of items. 2) cast anything less than "storming the capital with an army of millions" as abject failure on your part due to laziness and general you-suck-ness. 3) see, mens rights is just a bunch of whiners who can't get laid. QED. To which I reply: meh, seen your kind before. You won't win. Related to this post by Irlandes
/r/MensRights20/10/11 04:12 PM
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Think about some of the Law & Order series, as just one example from innumerable.
/r/MensRights19/10/11 05:30 AM
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Wikipedia is mainstream. We are not welcome in mainstream. I understand it's hard to have something like wikipedia writing lies. But ultimately they will lose. And as a bonus to us, we get a bunch of "look how stupid wikipedia looks" articles out of the deal (hat tip voice-for-men and others.) We simply need to continue forging forward and create our own path. The mainstream will catch up eventually, kicking and screaming, like it always does.
/r/MensRights17/10/11 05:17 AM
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so... I deduce from your comment that 1 in 608 episodes (0.164%) suggests investigating crime may involve ambiguity and prosecuting the man isn't always the correct course of action? I'll stick with the Simpsons.
/r/MensRights16/10/11 04:02 AM
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It's true that not-all-women-are-like-that, but the posts here are to help us understand: SOME WOMEN ARE LIKE THAT
/r/MensRights16/10/11 01:52 AM
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FTA: Eleven years on, his mother now supports others bereaved by suicide. Yes, yes, all the concern is for those (women) "left behind". But don't bother looking into why young men commit suicide. ‘Our disbelief was total,’ Janet recalls. ‘It was, “No. This could not have happened. William could not have done this to himself. He would never…” We just could not contemplate it.’ Exactly. Nobody commits suicide on a whim. This event was years in the making for this woman's son. Right under her nose.…
/r/MensRights16/10/11 01:21 AM
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down-vote articles that DO NOT contribute to the discussion about men's rights Right. I downvoted this submission.
/r/MensRights16/10/11 12:54 AM
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Agreed. But this does not preclude us resisting their machinations today.
/r/MensRights15/10/11 06:58 PM
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I see feminists as useful idiots.
/r/MensRights15/10/11 05:30 PM
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Hate to break it to you, but the Rockefeller family does not consider you their peer. They do not consider themselves part of your community, or your race. Rockefellers do not consider themselves patriots of your country. Rockefellers own you. They see you as property. And their interaction with us takes the form of how one interacts with cattle or an exploitable resource.
/r/MensRights15/10/11 05:28 PM
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it is possible that most people want to, but political correctness is self-strengthening. When something is "politically incorrect", you can get into trouble by just ALLOWING people to speak about it. This. Its like everyone has a veto over what gets talked about. And if just one person doesn't like the conversation straying from gender stereotypes, they have veto power to censor the conversation and rain woe upon the transgressor. We need a word for this. Both a noun and a verb. "Thought police…
/r/MensRights15/10/11 05:20 PM
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if you find something more recent, please post it to /r/mensrights
/r/MensRights15/10/11 05:13 PM
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Wrong. Feminists want the power to point at any man, at any time, and destroy his life. The all-encompassing-definition-of-rape is a means to this end.
/r/MensRights15/10/11 05:09 PM
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Which is evidence they haven't needed it. Not, as you imply, that the draft is not enforced for a civic or moral reason. If your 'modern' government needs bodies, they will enforce the draft in a heartbeat. And then what will you say? They ain't collecting names, at great expense, for no reason...
/r/MensRights15/10/11 04:58 PM
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been to iraq lately?
/r/MensRights15/10/11 04:56 PM
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and I'm terribly under-researched in this statement, exactly. Your "under-researched" statement disagrees with consistent findings from psychologists. May I suggest: "The Invisible Boy: Revisioning the Victimization of Male Children and Teens" - a study done for the Gov't of Canada.
/r/MensRights15/10/11 09:19 AM
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Here is a report from the Gov't of Canada (pdf) -- not peer reviewed itself, but with plenty of peer-reviewed references.
/r/MensRights15/10/11 09:15 AM
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That's not the point. The point is the buck always stops with a man. Criminals need help and/or punishment -- whatever it takes for them to stop. Regardless of gender. We can look at this another way: so long as we give women a free pass, the problem will never go away because you'll always have that seed of damaged women creating tomorrow's criminals. And in this light, the only conclusion you can come to is that our criminal system is designed to punish men in prison -- because we sure as hell…
/r/MensRights15/10/11 09:11 AM
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Have we forgotten how to raise Boys into Men? Boys grow into men just fine in the absence of coercion and abuse we typically rain upon them today. Look into the UK boarding school Summerhill if you want to learn what treating children with respect looks like. Neill wrote an excellent book about his experiences as headmaster. FTA, the first two words: Fashioning men Men don't need to be fashioned, okay? They need to be feed, nourished, respected, and otherwise left the fuck alone -- like every ot…
/r/MensRights15/10/11 02:17 AM
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... yet if you look in our prisons, you won't find a proportionate number of female offenders. IE: men go to prison while women are allowed to walk free (to offend again, and again...)
/r/MensRights15/10/11 02:12 AM
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My intention was not to excuse the poster nor the behavior of those behind it. This poster is noxious by any measure I couldn't agree with you more.
/r/MensRights15/10/11 02:11 AM
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Perhaps what's happening to our society is exactly what they intended.
/r/MensRights15/10/11 02:08 AM
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From the comments: I say we make another phrase amongst MRAs; White-feathering. Applicable primarily to women shaming men with statements such as “man up” “be a real man”. And whenever they assess a man’s status of manhood or what they believe a real man is. White-feathering.
/r/MensRights14/10/11 04:17 AM
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FTA: That feminism is a movement created by the world’s elites and fed to women through lies and flattery is also evident when start-up funding for feminist institutions comes through governments or from hereditary banking families like the Rockefellers. Gloria Steinem was financed during her startup of Ms Magazine indirectly by the the CIA and the Rockefeller foundation. [1] This was documented New York Times article in February 1967[1]. and confirmed by Henry Markow in a 2002 article called “H…
/r/MensRights14/10/11 04:02 AM
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FTA: “I quit because I knew there was work out there,” he says. “I didn’t want to be stuck in a classroom when I knew I could be making money.” ... “I’m my own boss,” This is what "manning up" looks like, for real. Observe, analyse, adapt. If he fails to find work in a depression, this man will likely consider school at that time, using his savings to stay out of debt. Higher education may not be for everyone. But, generally, the more education you have, the better off you are except when you're…
/r/MensRights13/10/11 03:16 PM
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Or, in the least, a woman who will not turn into a harpy and bring the entire legal system down upon his head and ruin him. FTA: Women with partners also reported that a main barrier was their partner's reluctance to have a child, or another child. But WHY are men reluctant to have a child? This f--ing obvious question is seldom asked. These articles 99.999% of the time avoid exploring men's experiences. And this lack of empathy/sympathy for men extends to all segments of our society today. I sa…
/r/MensRights12/10/11 07:34 PM
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The Zulu King won't be getting circumcised. He would never submit to that. But he wants other men to get circumcised... so he can get another car.
/r/MensRights12/10/11 07:02 AM
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Start with Ronald Goldman's "Circumcision: The Hidden Trauma". Combine it with Hrdy's "Mother Nature". Top it off with grade 12 biology.
/r/MensRights12/10/11 06:30 AM
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If women want equal rights so bad... Stop. Judge their actions, not their words. Women said they want equality. This does not mean they actually want equality. Judge their actions, not their words. women never demanded the right to be drafted you just answered your own question.
/r/MensRights11/10/11 06:33 PM
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My hypothesis is that circumcised men are less likely to have viable and psychologically healthy children. There are numerous factors involved: a circumcised man is less able to maintain a psychologically healthy relationship with his wife and children. IE: a damaged parent often leads to a damaged child. a circumcised man is less able to experience the entire spectrum of sexual intimacy with his partner and, at a subconscious and primitive level, the emotional bond is not as strong (and never c…
/r/MensRights11/10/11 05:59 PM
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If you need a PTSD test after getting the equivalent of a large skin tag removed, or a piercing, or teeth pulled you have bigger problems. You apparently believe (a) circumcision does no harm, and (b) the foreskin is unimportant. We can skip the theatrics if we can boil down our disagreement to these two points.
/r/MensRights11/10/11 04:22 PM
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I suspect, in the long term, this whole circumcision thing is selecting for women who actually enjoy and respect boys and men. Circumcising a man in infancy does not help your future generations propagate and grow strong. It may take 1000 years, but eventually these cretins will be weeded out of the gene pool.
/r/MensRights11/10/11 04:19 PM
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This is not about the health of the baby or some trumped-up lie like HIV prevention. Look at the history of circumcision: over 100 years of lie after lie. Every time a lie is debunked, they come up with a new one and keep on circumcising. When I was born, the lie was penile cancer, then UTI, now STDs. Lie lie lie.
/r/MensRights11/10/11 04:16 PM
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men only want to not be cut so they can enjoy sex. Tell her, "you first".
/r/MensRights11/10/11 04:57 AM
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Yes, yes they are. And it makes sense to them because, in their mind, suffering has a scaling factor: suffering_by_male = suffering * 0.01 suffering_by_female = suffering * 100 This is why, if you ask Wanhope where on the scale of human suffering a given atrocity lies, they have to ask you the sex of the victim... as if it matters.
/r/MensRights11/10/11 04:31 AM
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And I'm not traumatised. A standard psychological test for PTSD would say otherwise. It really makes no difference, except reduce the chance of various infections. You lie. I understand if you tell yourself this to feel better.
/r/MensRights11/10/11 04:21 AM
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To snip or not to snip? Hmmm.. To mutilate genitals or not? decisions, decisions... To traumatize for life, or not to traumatize... Oh the choices a parent has to make in these modern times... To amputate sexual organs, or leave your child sexually whole and capable? What's a parent to do? sexually transmitted diseases and HIV I know, let's just lie. And then we can quench our psychosexual sadism on our son's blood and life.
/r/MensRights10/10/11 08:13 PM
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Hmm.... 20 years... yeah, I could agree with that.
/r/MensRights10/10/11 08:10 PM
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I am no expert, but I suspect otherwise. Look at <put big event here: 60's, vietnam, 9/11, etc.>. It starts with a big event putting everyone on the same page. But slowly, given time, one by one people start to come to their own conclusions. Feminism will not go out with a bang, which is how I read your statement. Feminism will also never disappear completely - we still have hippies, for example. But feminism will fade, for a time at least.
/r/MensRights10/10/11 06:21 PM
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Fantastic article!
/r/MensRights10/10/11 05:36 PM
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someday look at itself and realize "Wtf have we done!?!". This happens one woman at a time, usually after the age of 35-45.
/r/MensRights10/10/11 05:26 PM
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I have to wonder... How much of this "single-sex education" is a de-facto code-word for "a teaching environment in which male teachers and natural human interactions are possible."
/r/MensRights10/10/11 04:44 PM
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FTA, here is the money shot: Conservatives frequently claim that casual sex is bad for young women, but this study makes a persuasive case that what's actually bad is the judgment of casual sex. IE: women's behaviour isn't a problem, judgement of women's behavior -- a social construct / convention which can be changed with enough gov't money -- is the problem. This is a self-serving justification for feminists to continue their social engineering.
/r/MensRights10/10/11 04:31 PM
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This article makes me think of two harpies arguing over how men are to serve them. Fuck that. Do your own thing. Invest in yourself. Build your body, mind and confidence. And let the harpies suffer in their own vomit. You don't owe them a damn thing.
/r/MensRights10/10/11 03:32 AM
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Guys, articles like this are just noise. Yes, our world sucks right now, in no small part because shitheads like the OP author encourage, legitimize and apparently revel in social sadism and misandry. When the shit hits the fan, and nobody has money for $4 frapachino lattes, when big-daddy-government defaults, women will be on the street starving. When the burocrats and their female supporters see men picking themselves up from the muck to forge ahead, leaving women and big-daddy-government to s…
/r/MensRights10/10/11 03:24 AM
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How many wars were started by women? It's hard to think of one since Helen of Troy This is a lie. Queen Elizabeth's advisors spent significant effort keeping the queen from sending the nation's men off to die needless and gruesome deaths continually. To say nothing of Thatcher. Ghandi. Etc. Women are bloodthirsty. They just don't like to admit it.
/r/MensRights10/10/11 03:19 AM
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They don't want to imprison us, they want the power to imprison us, and so gain another lever to control us.
/r/MensRights10/10/11 03:08 AM
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These people do not seek healthier relationships. Look through the lies. What purpose is served by this legalization of minutiae in relationships?
/r/MensRights10/10/11 03:07 AM
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Not to mention daytime TV.
/r/MensRights10/10/11 03:06 AM
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Angry (scared) women. The sad feedback loop: as more men check-out of a misandrous society, women feel increasingly insecure and scared, which leads to anger and (surprise surprise) more blaming of men.
/r/MensRights09/10/11 05:09 PM
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Don't forget (bit old, but still applicable today): Boys commit 86 percent of all adolescent suicides. "As much as I would love to lead the charge (in finding out why boys kill themselves), try to go out and get funding for it," said Lanny Berman, the executive director of the [American Association of Suicidology]. He is frustrated that funders aren't interested in studying boys and men. So the association has an expert on female suicide but none on male suicide, even though suicide is an overwh…
/r/MensRights09/10/11 04:58 PM
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what really needs to be fixed is the pervasive misandry which allowed these laws to become entrenched in the first place.
/r/MensRights09/10/11 04:55 PM
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But she's still kind of stuck in that SoCon mindset, that a mans sole purpose in life is to work 60+ hours a week to provide for a wife and kids he never gets to see. Because re-evaluating this basic premise would cause Hymowitz to re-evaluate her world view -- which is uncomfortable and scary. Unfortunately for Hymowitz and a lot of other women, reality doesn't care if they're uncomfortable or scared. And reality is a'knockin.
/r/MensRights09/10/11 04:54 PM
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Are they so fucking blind Yes. Nose. Knife. Cut.
/r/MensRights09/10/11 04:51 PM
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I don't like what you said because it made me feel uncomfortable. Therefore: <shaming language> <more shaming language> and because I have no imagination, <shaming language> Yes, yes, you certainly got your point across.
/r/MensRights09/10/11 03:50 PM
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she was already pissed. she'll just use this to stoke the flames of her self-inflicted psycho-emotional wounds, legitimize PAYtreearchy in her mind, give her lots to bitch about with her girlfriends (and the one male slave in her life... I pity the sucker). Etc.
/r/MensRights09/10/11 06:17 AM
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By doing what we're doing: raise awareness, discuss, try to break down people's denial and lies. Change happens one person at a time.
/r/MensRights09/10/11 06:03 AM
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FTA: Testimony from experts on Wednesday focused in part on the relative sensitivity of the male sex organ, with one witness explaining a penis could not be used, for instance, to read books published in Braille for the sight-impared. This is why there are no long-term scientific research projects investigating the effects of circumcision. Because that's exactly what we need to sue the pro-mutilation camp into oblivion. And not-coincidentally the pro-mutilation camp holds or strongly influence t…
/r/MensRights09/10/11 12:21 AM
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FTA: "They can't say (circumcision) is harmful," Ice said. "All they can really say is it's not medically necessary." IE: male suffering is an impossibility according to these people. "We the people do declare that, if there be suffering or loss, if it be experience by a male of the human species, then by decree said suffering or loss shall not be recognized as such. Any legal claim resulting from said suffering or loss shall be null and void." Men: You have no legal or social right to your peni…
/r/MensRights09/10/11 12:14 AM
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This isn't about you.
/r/MensRights08/10/11 12:48 AM
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Is it possible to support mens rights and still have healthy relationships with women *who are capable of sympathy, empathy and generally believe in fairness? * Yes. Is it possible to support mens rights and still have healthy relationships with women who believe you are responsible for all the world's ills and that you owe her everything because you're a man and she's a woman? No. Is it possible to support mens rights and still have healthy relationships with women who believe "If Mom's not hap…
/r/MensRights07/10/11 04:15 PM
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Children are very self centered. ... if they have good parents.
/r/MensRights07/10/11 05:45 AM
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From the comments: My mother was a cruel and sadistic woman, I say was, she still is but I have nothing to do with her these days thank goodness. Her type of 'mothering' had a very unfortunate effect on my brother, turning him into a vicious & violent misogynist who uses & abuses women. He has various children by various women all of whom he gains great pleasure out of sadistically tormenting financially, emotionally physically etc .He is currently facing charges for beating the living daylights…
/r/MensRights06/10/11 03:49 PM
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Who knew? A study from the University of Kent found that, from the age of four, girls believe they are cleverer, better behaved and try harder than boys Who knew? Propaganda and constant brainwashing works!
/r/MensRights06/10/11 03:45 PM
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How a woman behaves towards a male depends on her respect and/or sexual attraction towards said male. No respect + no attraction = 'boy' She will come to the boy/man conclusion based entirely upon the biases she holds in her head. Here's another clue: you will never, ever observe a woman judging a man the way he judges himself or other men. There are huge swaths of the male experience women studiously ignore. Which makes women's judgement of men ... well, gynocentric. "What use are you to me?"
/r/MensRights06/10/11 07:45 AM
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no, they just want women to have all the power.
/r/MensRights06/10/11 12:32 AM
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FTA: One thing that was credited to women was the ability to adapt faster to the modern circumstances. I don't believe this. Human genes have mechanisms to allow men an accelerated mutation rate and hence a more diverse, flexible and adaptable evolutionary capacity. And we only get better from there. The reason men dominate just about everything (of value) is because, when we decide to put our mind to it, we excel. It's what we do. Note the agency required to excel. A slave being told what to do…
/r/MensRights04/10/11 03:39 PM
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Judge a movement by its actions, not its words (or in this case, the labels they stick on themselves). Actions. VAWA is action. NOW is action. Title Whatever is action.
/r/MensRights04/10/11 06:45 AM
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Their opinions don't make sense. But... Their opinions tell us a great deal about them.
/r/MensRights04/10/11 05:39 AM
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Because your liking it doesn't justify doing it to other people... many of whom don't. Lots of women in Africa like being circumcised. You should go join them.
/r/MensRights04/10/11 05:38 AM
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only after, and only if successful. One reference among many. An appropriate call out: A young man had been arrested for rape. He was so worried about the anger of his wife, he attempted to hang himself in his jail cell. The attempt caused severe trauma to his trachea and the loss of oxygen to his brain caused brain damage. Now he has a tracheotomy so he can breathe through his neck, and a feeding tube to his stomach because he can't swallow. He cannot speak. ... [He] was convicted of rape. He l…
/r/MensRights04/10/11 05:18 AM
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My guess: to punish men for preferring young, healthy women. It's out of spite, hate and a complete disregard for a men's perspective. Being held to an impossible standard -- hey, that's what men are for, right? Nobody cares if we lose a few men to the grinding machina. ... hey, where did all the "good men" go?
/r/MensRights03/10/11 02:34 AM
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hat tip skotia
/r/MensRights03/10/11 02:24 AM
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Excellent link.
/r/MensRights03/10/11 02:24 AM
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Bingo. Logically there is no way for a man to be sure, 100%, that a given woman is of legal age. Hence, to make men liable, even in cases of fraud, is irrational. There must be some reason why men are held to an impossible standard... I wonder what it might be?
/r/MensRights03/10/11 02:19 AM
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Freedom loves diversity
/r/MensRights03/10/11 02:16 AM
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"The basic difference between men and women is that as we get older, our erotic capital wanes. Men’s erotic capital – providing they achieve power and success – only grows." Read between the lines: the woman who said this defines herself and her value by her erotic capital. Which is why she is so terrified of losing her looks, and so jealous of men who can attract a mate after 40. To which I reply: what happened to family? What happened to self-respect? What happened to community? When did your …
/r/MensRights02/10/11 05:21 PM
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FTA: What feminism is...and should be...is an ongoing dialogue -- among women...and men! -- on issues of special interest to women. Uh, right. So even the nicer-better-ifeminist does not seek to address issues of special interest to men. These ifeminsts may be our ally, but they do not represent us and their movement does not replace ours. Remember this next time someone says that /r/mensrights should be folded into feminism.
/r/MensRights02/10/11 05:15 PM
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a potential form of feminism that is not based around hatred and bigotry. Then it isn't feminism. The word 'feminism' has a contemporary popular meaning, indelibly linked to female supremacy and misandry. We can quibble about iFeminist or no-true-feminist falsehoods, but it's all beside the point. These same arguments can be made for any word. And by using 'feminism' as the starting point, you drag along the misandry roots of contemporary feminism. Find a new word. I have to wonder... why are th…
/r/MensRights02/10/11 05:07 PM
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Strong is the denial in this one. Mmmfp.
/r/MensRights02/10/11 05:04 PM
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Is this something that would be something a woman could do as well? Or would it be men only that are allowed this? Why do you want to split this along gender lines? I think you're just a subtle shit disturber. Take your divide-and-conquer bullshit elsewhere. The gender war doesn't need your help.
/r/MensRights02/10/11 03:18 PM
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Since I can remember the shaft of my penis has always felt extremlye numb. I mean next to no real feeling at all except a few key areas where stimulation proves extremely painful. I cannot speak to this from personal experience. I do know, however, that physiotherapists who deal with injuries sometimes help people with hypersensitivity. One guy I heard of who did something to his hand, afterwards his hand was so sensitive that just blowing on it felt like his hand was on fire. Maybe you have som…
/r/MensRights01/10/11 11:10 PM
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Drive-by downvoting. Don't take it personally. Comes with the territory.
/r/MensRights01/10/11 02:04 AM
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It's gotten to the point where people who would rather be uninvolved can no longer afford the luxury. Which just happens to coincide with a point in time where young women are waking up to the fact that their future husbands and meal tickets have been murdered, and said young women are now fucked. Just coincidence. Pure chance.
/r/MensRights01/10/11 01:53 AM
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<yawn> Judge a movement by its actions, not its words.
/r/MensRights01/10/11 01:51 AM
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You're right. I forgot about Haiti. Let's call it "Live Test #1". I haven't heard from Haiti in a long time... How did Haiti work out for the social engineers out to kill men and enslave society?
/r/MensRights01/10/11 01:49 AM
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The problem is: men do the killing. Are a bunch of females going to form into groups and throw men in prison camps? No. Men do the killing. So... how do you convince one set of men to attack and kill another set of men -- outside of normal nation-based war mongering? The genocide-ees would have to be demonized and dehumanized to a much greater extent than now. And en-mass big enough to be un-ignore-able. The only scenario where I see this happening is... a massive depression disproportionately u…
/r/MensRights01/10/11 01:19 AM
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I'm getting really sick of reading these lines over and over and over again. It's all they've got. There's a reason we call it the 'femininst hive mind'.
/r/MensRights30/09/11 06:05 AM
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You are not alone. I exclusively use the 'newest' here because of the downvote squads.
/r/MensRights30/09/11 06:00 AM
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Notice how much of the article concerns: the man's experience of being identified as a rapist, convicted and send to jail for a 25 to 50 year term (he served 6) the justifications for the woman's false accusation. This is from 1985... 26 years ago. From another article on the topic: I expected jail and lawsuits and that my husband would leave me... Nope, nope and nope. And did the system change to prevent this from happening in the future? Nope.
/r/MensRights30/09/11 01:25 AM
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Getting even mildly "bumped" in the balls... I cannot see the pain lasting less than 10 minutes, probably more. I swear, the pain sensors in a man's testicles are ... a breed of their own.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 03:01 PM
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A real MRA would never utter the phrase "real MRA". What do you think this is? A pissing content?
/r/MensRights29/09/11 02:57 PM
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Yeah, but like other issues we discuss (eg: circumcision), it takes a lot more time and effort to debunk the lies than it does to invent them. It's a losing strategy. Every time we debunk a lie, they've already moved on to the next one. To say feminists have moved on is not a victory. To say nobody believes in feminism anymore -- THAT would be a victory.
/r/MensRights29/09/11 04:10 AM
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The people pushing circumcision in Africa know full well it is not a viable HIV deterrent. Which begs the question... why are they pushing circumcision in Africa? And why is the New York Times willfully and knowingly lying about it?
/r/MensRights28/09/11 05:19 AM
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From the comments: The problem is that other methods don't take off all the foreskin. It needs to be totally removed or it ends up reattaching causing other problems like skin bridging and and adhesions. ... and might leave a small scrap of pleasure for the man as a sexually active adult. Blood boiling, cannot contain rage...
/r/MensRights28/09/11 03:47 AM
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Research the nerve density of the foreskin (esp. the frenulum) versus the glans. Compared to regular circumcision, losing part of one's glans is a fucking cake walk. FTA: and some little boys have suffered the loss of the tip of their penis. Ouch, ouch, ouch, ouch, OUCH This is fucking insulting. Written by an insensitive shit-head torture and sexual-violence-against-men apologist, catering to female ignorance and hostility towards male sexuality. Fuck everything about this article.
/r/MensRights28/09/11 03:42 AM
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30 seconds of google gave a few examples: http://www.leadershipcouncil.org/1/res/brain.html http://borderlinepersonality.ca/board/index.php?topic=131.0 Here is a video which, I believe, constitutes trauma and torture (if you consider it from the recipient's perspective rather than the perpetrator/doctor). Please also note others have found the signs of psychological trauma (ie: PTSD) using conventional psychological tools in boys and adult men resulting from childhood circumcision.
/r/MensRights27/09/11 02:24 PM
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That's right -- women have to be given leniency to follow their evolutionary fate, for the betterment of all. But us men, well, we have to man up and change our ways to become civilized. Barbarians need not apply. Newsflash To Idiot Apologist: the world has Billions of people. Inbreeding is not a big concern. Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.
/r/MensRights27/09/11 06:51 AM
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Aaaaaand the words must come from a female mouth for anyone to listen. And now she's a pariah in the feminist west. Notice the unspoken question, only hinted at because of the terror it solicit in the female reader: "Should we listen to men? Should we allow them a voice? Should we see them as human?"
/r/MensRights27/09/11 02:15 AM
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Warren Farrell calls this the "Glass Floor". Feminists always talk about the "Glass Ceiling", but never mention a peep about the "Glass Floor". If you look at the 25 worst jobs, 98% of the workers are male. The only job in the list which is predominantly female is 'actor', ranked poorly due to lack of job security.
/r/MensRights27/09/11 02:08 AM
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It doesn't matter than we can see a difference in the brain structure using MRI between an intact male and male who was circumcised as an infant. Nope, no significant difference here!
/r/MensRights27/09/11 02:03 AM
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Fair enough. Let's rephrase: "If you suspect your kid ain't your kid, and you live in Wales, 60% chance you're right!"
/r/MensRights27/09/11 01:58 AM
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More Choice quotes: If a similar number of children were dying from another optional body modification-say, tattooing or piercing- would the public be outraged at the people and institutions benefiting financially? If not, is it then due to gender bias? Imagine the uproar if a hundred girls were dying from female circumcision each year. Why are so many adults silent about this atrocity? Adults would be furious and highly vocal, to say the least, if someone were to forcibly cut their genitals. Th…
/r/MensRights25/09/11 04:41 PM
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Good quotes throughout the article. From the Conclusions: It is reasonable to conclude that about 117 circumcision-related deaths occur each year in the United States- approximately 1 out of every 77 male neonatal deaths- and that thousands of boys have died since this practice was first medicalized 160 years ago. These boys died because physicians have been either complicit or duplicitous, and because parents ignorantly said "Yes," or lacked the courage to say "No." Every one of these boys woul…
/r/MensRights25/09/11 04:37 PM
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I know OP is about circumcision, but... 3/4 of SIDS are the mother committing infanticide. Therefore your headline should read: "...compare the 117 annual deaths from circumcision... infanticide by mother (912) with 86 under 1 month, suffocation (44), mother's use of addictive drugs (27), HTV/ATDS (19), homicide (17), automobile accidents (8), drowning (2), and falls (1). SIDS killed 304 boys under the age of one year in 2004; of those, 29 were under the age of 1 month..." Reference Sooo... Circ…
/r/MensRights25/09/11 04:17 PM
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In a Patriarchy, genetic lineage is the top concern. In a Matriarchy, financial support and security are the top concerns. Which do you think we're living in? Remember this the next time some feminist screetches "PAY-TREE-ARCH-IE" ... (well, they've got the PAY part right)
/r/MensRights25/09/11 04:11 PM
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Fair enough. It does strike me as absurd, however, that this entire discussion is about intentional harm versus unintentional harm.
/r/MensRights25/09/11 06:31 AM
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Replace 'rape' with 'psychological trauma' and the article remains accurate. Trauma is trauma. Be it physical violence, emotional abuse, sexual assault... the details are different, but the result is the same. For example, Susan Brison writes in her book "Aftermath" how, as a rape and attempted murder survivor, she often found she had more in common with PTSD-laden soldiers than other rape victims. She also found that her rape-related suffering was more 'justified' in the eyes of society than wa…
/r/MensRights25/09/11 06:16 AM
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every circumcision is an injury.
/r/MensRights25/09/11 06:03 AM
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most of the female nursing students look at me as a "kid" since I do those. I wore a fitted Batman hat and some girl said I look like I'm 12, When someone judges you (for wearing a batman hat, or anything else), you must understand... they are judging themselves by the same measuring stick. The most suppressed and unhealthy women/people are also the most judgmental. A healthy human with a secure sense of self doesn't feel the need to go around telling people they look 12. This is the sign of an …
/r/MensRights25/09/11 03:51 AM
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Bzzzt. Holding women accountable for their actions. Two minute penalty.
/r/MensRights24/09/11 06:09 AM
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Pretty sure the women behind the poster are dead serious.
/r/MensRights24/09/11 06:08 AM
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they laughed at Bobbit...
/r/MensRights24/09/11 06:07 AM
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The language is not done in jest. The author of this poster has been abused and assaulted throughout their life. In their personal experience, 100% of the men (they are related to and/or attracted to) mistreat them. Therefore, the banner is, to this woman, entirely accurate and appropriate. The author fails to understand that not all women are stuck in a mental illness leading to self-destructive tendencies. Additionally, the astute reader will interpret the poster in the context of women's tend…
/r/MensRights24/09/11 05:56 AM
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but none of that 'upset' will translate to action in the form of funding, NOW movement, lobbying, policy change, etc. etc. Judge feminists by their actions, not their words, and not by what "upsets" them.
/r/MensRights24/09/11 05:46 AM
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This response would be the, "you made an important observation I had not considered before, and I now feel stress because my worldview is inconsistent. Therefore, I will use jest to "lighten the mood" and relieve some of my congnitive-dissonance-based stress and give myself time to adjust." If that's what you need, carry on.
/r/MensRights23/09/11 02:40 AM
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Physical touch is a psychological desire/need of people of all ages. Of course it will enhance the children (and teachers) in countless overt and subtle ways.
/r/MensRights23/09/11 01:53 AM
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The harm done to children by genuine pedos is not done through hugs. This anti-hug nonsense is histrionics on a steroid+caffeine+Oprah coctail.
/r/MensRights22/09/11 03:36 PM
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Private schools are in a better position to screen for bat-shit-insane women and children looking to throw around false claims, and encourage pro-male views. Hence, it's not just salary, I suspect, but also a willingness and ability to protect male teachers from the pedo-witch-hunt.
/r/MensRights22/09/11 03:32 PM
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The boy would be reprimanded for sexually harassing the teacher. Duh! Get with the program. Look not at their age, but what lies between their legs.
/r/MensRights22/09/11 03:24 PM
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What the fuck is your problem? You actually believe that fucking with someone's biochemistry is acceptable because you like the results? Go to hell, you heartless, disrespectful monster.
/r/MensRights22/09/11 05:08 AM
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Somewhat related: Who gets a babysitter for a 14-year-old? By 14, you should be the babysitter. Perhaps the boy has a developmental problem or something. But if he's just an average person, then treating him like a child is abuse. Honestly. Momma's boys aren't born, they're made in a parent-run prison camp. I know this type of parent well: they cannot let their kids out from under their absolute control, ever, not even for a second. Such is their insecurity at not being needed by someone. It kil…
/r/MensRights21/09/11 09:05 AM
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denial a defense mechanism postulated by Sigmund Freud, in which a person is faced with a fact that is too uncomfortable to accept and rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence. I'm sorry you're circumcised.
/r/MensRights21/09/11 02:35 AM
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It could be said that every parent does it for a different reason. As does every doctor. Your insistence to divide this issue along gender lines says more about you than it does about genital mutilation. I stand with Soraya Miré, a victim of female genital mutilation, who said, This act of female genital mutilation or male cutting or male genital mutilation—whether it's a culture and religious or personal choice—I think is nothing but a scar of betrayal; it really is a sore wound; the minute you…
/r/MensRights20/09/11 03:32 PM
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Subliminal! I like it! Hit'em in the cerebral cortex! (I think "Limbic System" is more accurate, but cerebral cortex sounds better)
/r/MensRights20/09/11 04:53 AM
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Mr. history, you need a history lesson. This is a good start. This is another. To whit: Since its introduction as a medical procedure in the 19th century, the orthodox medical profession has most frequently employed male circumcision as a cure and preventive for such "diseases" as masturbation, epilepsy, insanity, hip-joint disease, enuresis, involuntary nocturnal seminal emissions, phimosis, redundant prepuce, prolapse of the rectum, tuberculosis, feeble-mindedness, strabismus, convulsions, pro…
/r/MensRights20/09/11 04:38 AM
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They want the power money brings. They don't want the stress. Hence a change in tactic to big daddy government. The other tactic is to populate the workplace, then modify it to pander to female sensibilities.
/r/MensRights20/09/11 04:24 AM
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Misandry is invisible to most people. It's pervasive, like the air we breathe. It's so invisible and normalized, even the word 'misandry' is not recognized by our spell checkers. Circumcision is a good example because, even in the case of violent forced amputation of someone's body parts, where you'd think there would be no ambiguity, misandry rears its ugly head. Allow me to demonstrate: Me: I cut off part of my child's genitals. Is this good or bad? Most People: What sex is your child? ... why…
/r/MensRights20/09/11 01:55 AM
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My emotional response to you over the years has moved from anger through annoyance to indifference and now I'm starting to feel pity for you.
/r/MensRights18/09/11 11:19 PM
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Upvoted
/r/MensRights18/09/11 08:05 PM
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Our issues stand on their own merit. Ignorant denialist downvoting doesn't change reality. There is strength in truth. Learning and accepting this is part of what we do here. The difference between MensRights and Feminism is that MensRights isn't afraid of the truth. In fact, a defining characteristic of MensRights is that we must face the truth because all other options have been exhausted.
/r/MensRights18/09/11 04:27 PM
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I'm not a mod, therefore I don't have access to the ban list for /r/mr. But I can tell you that If Aerik is posting here, the list is very, very small; probably less than 1.
/r/MensRights18/09/11 04:19 PM
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How about you think for yourself and don't worry about downvote or upvote or anything-else-vote brigades. Part of the reality of being men in this society is that we have to put up with a constant bombardment of, well, shit. You get used to it after a while.
/r/MensRights18/09/11 06:03 AM
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I thought it was okay to be different. It's okay to be different as long as you do exactly what women tell you to.
/r/MensRights18/09/11 01:02 AM
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Uh oh, they're onto us. Send in the ritalin squad, gotta keep those men unhealthy. Can we get some "religious freedom" in here? And bump up funding to feminist ogranizations while you're at it.
/r/MensRights15/09/11 05:07 AM
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"Patriarchies" tend to place high value on infants and paternity. Often children are considered the father's more than the mother's. "Matriarchies" tend to place low value on infants and paternity, high value on women's freedom to arrange their families however they see fit. These tendencies are not coincidental.
/r/MensRights15/09/11 04:45 AM
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It's been a long time since I was researching that aspect of circumcision. Google knows all -- if you're interested, you can find it.
/r/MensRights15/09/11 01:03 AM
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Then you haven't heard from all the men who have had it done as an adult. In fact, I'd call your evidence "biased".
/r/MensRights14/09/11 01:22 AM
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not all circumcisions are the same.
/r/MensRights13/09/11 02:56 PM
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to support ManThoughts... misandry hurts other people's children in the way you describe. Lacking a sense of community (what happens to you happens to me), most people lack the desire to care or even be informed.
/r/MensRights13/09/11 02:55 PM
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actually, thats the point. Circumcision is not meant to be a 'choice', it is imposed.
/r/MensRights13/09/11 02:52 PM
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Here's a solid fact for you: 4 out of 5 men in the 30-50 yr old generation were violently sexually assaulted resulting in amputation of a significant part of their sexual organs and loss of most of their sexual sensation. Women exaggerate to earn sympathy ... and yet men's reality is an order of magnitude more gruesome than women's exaggeration. And most people continue to ignore it.
/r/MensRights13/09/11 03:50 AM
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Check out the "daily chores" section: laundry, cooking, cleaning, shopping. No mention of any stereotypically male chores. Warren Farrell had this one pegged over a decade ago. This, my friends, is called a half-truth, otherwise known as a lie. Whoever created this report had a gender-political agenda to serve.
/r/MensRights12/09/11 04:25 AM
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"Labour slave" is the male equivalent of "sex slave" for women -- being imprisoned and having our natural gifts and talents exploited for the sole benefit of others. Where's the feminist outrage chiming for equality and human rights?
/r/MensRights12/09/11 01:19 AM
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...cannot...upvote...enough...
/r/MensRights11/09/11 06:17 PM
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I don't have any advice for you, but I have an observation unrelated to your specific situation. I find it both interesting and telling (and appropriate) that your girlfriend posts her plea for help to /r/relationship_advice, and you post yours to /r/mensrights.
/r/MensRights11/09/11 06:59 AM
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WTF is the state doing intruding itself into a community-oriented bond between adults?
/r/MensRights11/09/11 05:51 AM
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"I honestly don't understand how anyone can do it to their own child. That's disgusting; it's ridiculous," Vasquez told WWMT. ... and it happens all the time. And cops etc. look the other way when the perpetrator is a woman, unless the circumstances are exceedingly grievous and impossible to ignore.
/r/MensRights10/09/11 08:46 PM
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Pay for the promise of sex. Pay for having sex. Pay for not having sex. Pay for having children. Pay for someone else's children. Pay pay pay. Do you start to understand men's role in this story? It does not matter what happens or who is involved: the man pays. And how did men acquire the money to pay? That's right -- we traded part of our short and limited life.
/r/MensRights10/09/11 08:41 PM
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Some do -- which explains the Salvation Army thing -- but if you seek women's sympathy, you forfeit any possible sexual attraction from them.
/r/MensRights10/09/11 04:10 AM
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you're talking about "sampling bias" and yes it's always a concern when forming opinions about anything. Which is why the Buddah tries to maintain an open mind. Just because you knew XYZ yesterday doesn't mean it's still the same XYZ today. But MRM is also saying that while not-all-marriages-are-like-that, if the pain of failure is too great, NO marriage is worth the risk. Let me illustrate this with an example: would you play Russian Roulette with a cap gun? Would you play Russian Roulette with…
/r/MensRights09/09/11 03:39 PM
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I feel... good! Like a weight has been lifted from my shoulders. It's as though a lifetime spent struggling against a nameless force has suddenly ended. Ah, I see it now. I've gone from "male chauvinist pig" for committing the offense of being born male, to "MRM chauvinist pig" due to the choices I've made. Much better.
/r/MensRights09/09/11 03:34 PM
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I agree children living in poverty is not a pleasant outcome either. The social problems of no welfare are legion. But that doesn't mean we cannot call a spade a spade and discuss the options. If you use black-and-white thinking, you miss alternatives.
/r/MensRights09/09/11 03:26 PM
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What difference does it make whether the man writes a cheque to the government or a specific woman? The point is: he's paying with his life's blood to support someone who gives nothing in return (something people usually call 'theft').
/r/MensRights09/09/11 03:14 PM
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FTA: I contacted CBS and the executives [about The Talk] several times to no avail. I wrote sponsors of the show, to no avail. I posted on various pages and YouTube pages urging others write and call in. Why can't we as men get organized better, especially after this incident and all the anger that it caused? Women's groups would have had picket lines outside CBS. They would have had tons of people writing to sponsors so that they'd listen to the clout the group has. I am very frustrated that no…
/r/MensRights09/09/11 03:11 PM
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From this recent post to Angry Harry's Website: I wish to acknowledge that you are correct. I am one of those that has completely changed my thoughts about women's rights and feminism. All this came about after the Catherine Kieu Becker case [she cut off her partner's penis] and the initial responses to it by women. Turning her into the victim and him into the criminal for doing something to deserve it. The real turning point came after viewing The Talk's segment about that crime. I was angry, r…
/r/MensRights09/09/11 02:57 PM
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Do you pay taxes? If so, you're supporting some other man's welp via your hard-earned tax dollar.
/r/MensRights09/09/11 03:47 AM
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What do you really know of those societies? What MSNBC tells you? Oh don't give me that PC bullshit. We all know they tie a woman's worth to her virginity, and many of them aren't even allowed to go to school. I'll take that as, "Yes, I watch CNBC and CNN and I believe everything they tell me." Rage on, yea useful idiot.
/r/MensRights09/09/11 02:12 AM
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you seem so quick to judge. What do you really know of those societies? What MSNBC tells you?
/r/MensRights08/09/11 03:39 PM
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I enjoy comments, like this one by Da Xiang: svdsinner wrote: Beyond the OP's issue of older men, school age boys are facing massive discrimination in our increasingly effeminate public school system. Programs to encourage girls (girls in science, Title 9 protection of girls sports, etc.) have been getting lots of legal and budgetary attention for the last 15+ years, while boys have gotten almost nothing new. Boys aren't allowed to be boys in their classrooms, and this new generation of boys has…
/r/MensRights05/09/11 05:41 PM
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Ah, repression -- the wellspring of infinite energy for dishonest work.
/r/MensRights05/09/11 09:58 AM
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wow, a lie based on pseudo-science serving a biased agenda gets debunked. Whodathunk?
/r/MensRights05/09/11 09:28 AM
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The thing I find funny about this conversation is that even if I agree with you, let's suppose I agree and say, "NAWALT"... It doesn't matter. Because /r/MensRights is the choir of a backwater church in nowhereville. We aren't the ones you need to preach NAWALT to. The men you need to preach NAWALT to are the millions of men who had the opportunity to observe the women around them during the Bobbit and The Talk incidents. Good luck with that.
/r/MensRights05/09/11 12:05 AM
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A lot can be gained from thinking clearly about the issues. Sometimes the most insight is gleaned from stating and re-stating the "obvious". For example, let's re-state my original comment, but run it backwards. Start with someone who feels indifferent towards any suffering you might experience with the loss of your genitals. Now, do you feel safe letting this person amputate your genital tissue? Do you trust their opinion on issues related to your foreskin, or your son's? .... This leads me to …
/r/MensRights04/09/11 04:23 PM
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You're trying very hard to avoid the point. Men are not bothered by one crazy woman hacking up her male partner. Men are bothered by the response of the women around us. The cackling hilarity they all see in a man being violently attacked and having his sexual organs amputated. The problem has nothing to do with "The Talk" specifically. "The Talk" exemplified a pervasive response from far, far too many average women we have to interact with every day. In that audience of women who laughed at "Th…
/r/MensRights04/09/11 04:18 PM
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That stuff is harder to read than my perl code. And when I say 'harder', I mean 'so boring and long-winded that my brain goes to sleep in self-defence'.
/r/MensRights04/09/11 03:46 PM
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In the circumcision debate, there is one aspect which you will find is universal: When a man shares his regret over the loss of his his foreskin, be it against his will or not, his suffering is always met with indifference by those who amputated his genital organ.
/r/MensRights04/09/11 03:02 AM
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Let's stop using the word "circumcision" and start calling it what it is: aggravated sexual assault resulting in body mutilation, amputation, and psychological trauma. Genital mutilation is violence. Why do you think the perpetrator always, always hides behind power, education, prestige, knowledge, the law, religious customs, or the fact their victim is only a fucking baby. ... they hide because they don't want that violence returned to them.
/r/MensRights04/09/11 02:59 AM
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If you want to know the truth of a society, I have learned the key: The king is a liar; the court jester tells the truth.
/r/MensRights04/09/11 02:37 AM
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We will never let it go away. The experience is burned into the brain of every man who saw it. We will not forget; we cannot forget (ie: cannot even if we wanted to, it's stuck there, like a scar that won't heal). "The Talk" revealed to the common man an aspect of the woman lying next to him in bed. An aspect he hoped, wished, did not exist. Not in his girl. Well... "The Talk" gave that man doubt. It's Bobbit all over again. "The Talk" did more for MRAs than 100 posts in /r/MensRights. Another c…
/r/MensRights04/09/11 02:20 AM
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Good for you and double-good for your son. But I still feel confused and dismayed that so many people consider it their right to amputate the sexual organ of another human being. How can so-called feminists look themselves in the mirror, for example, saying "my body, my choice?" His body my choice - it would seem - is their anthem, along with his wallet my choice, and his kids my choice...
/r/MensRights03/09/11 03:17 AM
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Judge feminists by their actions, not their words.
/r/MensRights03/09/11 01:04 AM
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But they'll always claim to be on the side of [put good thing here]. Judge feminists by their actions, not their words. Seriously. Let me say that again... Judge feminists by their actions, not their words.
/r/MensRights03/09/11 01:04 AM
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... despite incessant lies being published monthly by the MSM about supposed "benefits" based on pseudo-science. And despite widespread ignorance regarding the negative sexual and psychological consequences of hacking of a part of another person's body against their will and without their consent as they scream in terror and agony.
/r/MensRights02/09/11 01:46 PM
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No, it means the mother is the child in "child support".
/r/MensRights02/09/11 02:46 AM
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This behavior goes beyond pedo fear; pedo-fear is just the story she tells herself and others. Her real fear is the child might have a life beyond her, without her. That her child might not need her. Her sense of self depends on the child needing her. We used to have phrases like "smothering the child" for a greedy needy mother. That child is being abused.
/r/MensRights01/09/11 04:00 PM
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Let me help y'all with the secret inverse-of-what-they-say-is-true decoder ring: Just as men are prone to treating women as objects, it’s also possible—although much less talked-about—for women to treat men as objects. Are the effects of this sin as devastating as the effects of porn? Maybe not. The effects are worse because they undermine the fundamental emotional foundation for the love she feels for her partner. ... Even while women can certainly struggle with lust, and are capable of reducin…
/r/MensRights30/08/11 02:46 PM
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dunno about the editing thing; I can edit okay. Reddit uses caches heavily; sometimes edits take a while to work their way through the cache. Be patient; if it fails, try again in a few minutes.
/r/MensRights27/08/11 10:52 PM
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ALL circumcisions are botched.
/r/MensRights27/08/11 08:14 PM
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ALL circumcision does harm.
/r/MensRights27/08/11 08:14 PM
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It tells you a lot about her. For example: She does not want you there because you are male. Under what circumstance would you tell her, "I don't want you to attend my celebration because you are female"?
/r/MensRights26/08/11 04:11 PM
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How about something a little more... trustworthy, to balance out the discussion: http://www.canadiancrc.com/PDFs/The_Invisible_Boy_Report.pdf To wit: Finally, there is an alarmingly high rate of sexual abuse by females in the backgrounds of rapists, sex offenders and sexually aggressive men – 59% (Petrovich and Templer, 1984), 66% (Groth, 1979) and 80% (Briere and Smiljanich, 1993). A strong case for the need to identify female perpetrators can be found in Table 4, which presents the findings fr…
/r/MensRights25/08/11 04:42 AM
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No. There is a pattern to this madness.
/r/MensRights25/08/11 04:40 AM
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Put this idea together with feminism's assertion that all evil is done by men, and all victims are women. This gives you our contemporary brainwashing cocktail. The cocktail hurts men insofar as it leads to an identity crisis and isolates men from each other. The cocktail hurts women insofar as it leads them to fear/hate/exaggerate men's dark human side while ignoring/minimizing their own dark human side. Everyone ends up alone, afraid and wishing they had more human contact. The only way to win…
/r/MensRights25/08/11 04:38 AM
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Dept. of False Statistics is down the hall and to your left in /r/feminisms Thanks for stopping by.
/r/MensRights24/08/11 01:58 AM
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Empirical evidence continues to mount that boys no longer have what it takes to succeed in school. This language fucking pisses me off. They make it sound like the boys are responsible. Empirical evidence continues to mount that institutionalized misandry supported by a legion of anti-male boy-hating feminist teachers is starting to have measurable effects. FTFY.
/r/MensRights20/08/11 09:18 AM
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feminists believe if they think it, so shall it be. "facts" are, in their minds, "choices" made by bigots seeking to keep women down.
/r/MensRights20/08/11 09:14 AM
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I think we can learn a lot about how the off switch works by studying the ways people defend circumcision. And by so learning, we may hasten the day when we can end it. It's textbook psychology 101. Those who are harmed, do harm to others. Those who are not mistreated do not mistreat others. There are anomalies, of course. But 80% of my generation is not an anomaly. 80% of my generation of men is circumcised. A book I honestly and seriously recommend people read, for yourself and your children: …
/r/MensRights20/08/11 02:27 AM
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<crickets>
/r/MensRights19/08/11 02:17 PM
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Teaching girls to like pink and boys to like blue is a societal coherence tool. Amputating people's sexual organs against their will to deprive them of sexual pleasure is institutionalized sadism and a psychological pathology. There's a difference. We all have deep dark fantasies. If our goal is a healthy, equitable society, dark fantasies need to remain fantasies. Institutionalizing acceptance of "special" dark fantasies doesn't make them less dark, nor the consequences less corrosive to a heal…
/r/MensRights19/08/11 05:15 AM
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Yeah, the essence of the debate is missing its target and splashing on the walls, the floor...
/r/MensRights19/08/11 02:39 AM
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All circumcisions are botched.
/r/MensRights19/08/11 02:38 AM
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Where are all the intact men and women rushing in to say "OMG FGM IZ SO MUCKS WORRSSZZZ!!!"
/r/MensRights19/08/11 02:23 AM
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From the comments: I was pro-MGM. Had I not miscarried in 2007, my son would have been mutilated. One day I came across the "peaceful parenting" Facebook page and met an onslaught of intactivist resources and information that one simply cannot ignore. I tried. I tried to justify why I thought circumcision was normal, why all infant boys should have it done. I argued endlessly with members of the page and wasted lots of time talking to a brick wall. (A very smart brick wall, however.) But the mor…
/r/MensRights19/08/11 01:46 AM
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The author writes in the comments: V Burns said... There is NO difference between MGM and FGM and I can only imagine the grief of a man who was violated in this way as an infant or child must be as intense as the grief I feel. The only difference between myself and all of those violated boys is the fact that it is socially unacceptable ( for the most part ) to circumcise a girl. Am I brave ? I do not necessarily think so. To avoid backlash in the event my family were to read this I used my middl…
/r/MensRights19/08/11 01:44 AM
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Notice how the men and women against child abuse and mutilation all stand together against circumcision. The victims of circumcision able to understand and accept their loss all stand together in agreement. In line with common sense and simple biology. And on the other side are a bunch of psychosexual sadists who enjoy mutilating penises and inflicting pain, a bunch of men in denial, idiots claiming "FGM is different!!!" and a boatload of ignorant fools. Kicking out lie after lie to justify the …
/r/MensRights19/08/11 01:26 AM
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Bingo.
/r/MensRights18/08/11 04:30 AM
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Questions for you to consider: 1) in which European countries is male circumcision illegal? 2) in which European countries is female circumcision illegal? 3) Now think about this: What kind of person/society writes, proposes, votes on and finally passes into legislation laws which permit violent amputation and torture for one group of people, but expressly forbids it for another? Based entirely on their sex. Now it's time you do some homework. I would love to hear your results. Hint: start here …
/r/MensRights18/08/11 01:35 AM
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Modern Western Medicine doesn't consider the male foreskin a part of the human body. Therefore he (he = the part western medicine recognizes as human) "fully recovered".
/r/MensRights17/08/11 03:36 PM
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subtitle: "Violent sexual assault and mutilation of her child is acceptable, so long as she restricts her mutilation to the genital area and only against her male children," say officials, but take exception to "the unsanitary conditions and lack of training on her part."
/r/MensRights17/08/11 04:54 AM
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I hate the clinical-sounding word "circumcision" Title should read, "Oregon mother gets probation for home amputation of her 3 month old's sexual organs."
/r/MensRights17/08/11 03:16 AM
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(because, let’s face it, most rape victims are women) You're either ignorant or a liar. Perhaps both. In the USA, more men are raped than women. Most of the men are raped in prison. Or perhaps you extended non-person-hood to any man in prison. Perhaps you're one of those compassion-less fuck-tards who consider prison rape an integral part of the penal system.
/r/MensRights16/08/11 02:51 AM
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I don't have exact links regarding the male pill. But better material exists for other issues, like male suicide, which demonstrate the phenomenon I alluded to. Reference this article from the SFGate. The relevant bits: Boys commit 86 percent of all adolescent suicides. ... "As much as I would love to lead the charge (in finding out why boys kill themselves), try to go out and get funding for it," said Lanny Berman, the executive director of the [American Association of Suicidology]. He is frust…
/r/MensRights16/08/11 02:38 AM
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Ah, the white knight...
/r/MensRights16/08/11 02:21 AM
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Exactly. These people think the MRM originates in centrally-produced propaganda, like feminism. It doesn't. MRM originates in men's individual lives, in men coming to their own conclusions based on their own 1st-hand experiences.
/r/MensRights15/08/11 03:53 PM
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We're a multi-purpose subreddit. It's been a support group since the start.
/r/MensRights15/08/11 02:23 AM
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