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What are your thoughts about the nickmercs situation? If you don’t know there’s a streamer that said let the kids out of this on a protest on a California school (they got into a fight) and this feminists even made activision pull his custom playable character from the game. This is ridiculous.

ResearcherFew1273

June 16, 2023

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Title	What are your thoughts about the nickmercs situation? If you don’t know there’s a streamer that said let the kids out of this on a protest on a California school (they got into a fight) and this feminists even made activision pull his custom playable character from the game. This is ridiculous.
Author	ResearcherFew1273
Upvotes	3
Comments	22
Date	June 16, 2023 5:05 AM UTC (3 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MensRights
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[–]EdwardElric69 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link

[–]zayniman924 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago* (19 children) | Copy Link

Delusional.

Parents have 100% authority and the right the choose and its being forced on them. Its borderline insanity to think that just because you believe in something or have an opinion, that everyone else needs to share that.

I’m not saying don’t live your life, and the gay community has done plenty to make ppl feel uncomfortable with them around kids even if u choose to deny that.

All of that is meaningless bc at the end of the day u have no authority over that child. U dont support or provide for that child. Any decision made by the parents is 100% up to them and honestly u don’t get to have an opinion on it for the exact reasons I listed.

You ppl have tried to compel speech, you act like the most marginalized community yet you have the support of every major media, business, and politician.

Everything is geared towards you ppl and you still think ur entitled to more? Such as the authority of people’s kids?

Nobody has to support shit, they aren’t obligated and I’m sorry to tell u that people value their children 1000 times more than your feelings or place in society.

So please kindly shut the fuck up. Enjoy the liberties u have been awarded. Stay away from peoples children and live YOUR life. Disgusted

[–]EdwardElric69 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link

I think a whole conversation between me and you just happened in your head, maybe read my comment before jumping downmy throat about things I didn't say.

I don't want authority over anyone's kids, the parents should make decisions over what they teach their kids.

A fact of life is that LGBT+ kids are born. They should be taught what LGBT+ means, that same sex couples are a thing.

I don't want little kids being told that they should transition any more than you, but telling them that these things exist and are ok is fine. It's as simple as "some people feel as though they were born as the wrong gender and choose to live as their preferred gender.

Unfortunately some of these kids grow up in homophobic households, they have horrible childhoods and some get kicked out of their homes just for being who they are. A little education goes a long way for making these kids feel normal.

Nickmercs did nothing to help the kids that he cares so much about. All he did was provide a beacon for people to flock to to spread hate against these groups.

No one is turning your kids gay. They were born that way.

[–]zayniman924 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link

Stop with the whole “we have to teach them” we can’t stop talking about them. More people in society are born with 2 thumbs yet this nonsense is shoved down our throats everyday and we’re constantly asked to give up our beliefs to validate their reality it’s absolutely bulshit.

Its not even about being gay, its just the fact that people think they have some sort of power over people and think they can tell them what to think. How to feel. Mind yall business smfh.

Its not about turning the kids gay, its about the fact that this shit is disgusting and has no place amongst kids in school that young. That should be handled in the household the same way it is with normal kids.

Thats the biggest thing people like u just don’t understand. Nobody cares that anyones gay. They care that its constantly shoved down their throat and nobody is allowed to disagree. These people have made everyone walk on eggshells.

It could have been any group, you’re going to receive hate for being insufferable. Not for what your group is.

Their beliefs don’t override anyone elses and everyone else is entitled to their belief just as much as they are.

Teaching kids that this shit exists isn’t wrong, its the encouragement and graphic nature of it that makes parents uncomfortable. Anyone getting upset at a parent for being concerned for their well being is a nutjob.

Mercs saying leave the kids alone is such a blanket statement that it looks really bad for lbgt to even get mad about it. The implication is only their because they themselves have given that type of energy out to people.

The real world isnt just sissy liberals and white right wingers. Theres a lot of just regular people who share ideas from both sides or just dont really care. Super moderate. Not every gay person is like this, but theres been enough of them that are that get enough exposure to make parents worried.

People would respond better to them if they wouldn’t condone that shit but instead they always double down and defend shit like ,”oh you don’t understand”

Its creepy, its weird, its not all of them but its enough to make people question and blaming people for that is wild. Its their kids

Their kids will always come before your feelings.

I don’t understand why this is such a difficult concept to grasp. COD and LBGT community is 100% wrong here. But ofc u cant say that cause apparently these people are incapable of mistake 😂 people are tired of dealing with adults who act like children.

Its not “right wing” its just fuckin annoying and it gets old quick. Everyday its a fuckin sob story.

Like bro yall have every major corporation, every news media outlet, the fuckin white house put yall flag up

When have they done that for anyone?

Like bro you guys are just people. Nobody cares and the shit gets old quick constantly playing the victim when people have their own shit to deal with its so pathetic.

And the obsession with kids is weird

[–]HungryPlan2467 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link

"This shit is disgusting and has no place"

What exactly is it about gay or trans people is disgusting? The fact that they aren't straight? The fact that they aren't like you? Hey guess what, gay people exist. Does me telling you that gay people exist make you feel gay? Is it going to turn you trans if I tell you that trans people exist?

The reason why people are supporting the LGBTQ community is because historically, these are the people that have been killed, lynched, and targeted by hate. We're showing support for them to let people know that it isn't okay to hate them. What is your reason for hating them so much exactly? The reason why it's being taught in schools that gay people and trans people exist is so that in the future, they understand that it's okay for people to be different. It's the exact same reason we learn about the civil rights movement, to learn about the history of racial segregation and learn that it wasn't okay and it was harmful.

All of your stupid examples of "gay people being weird to children" is the exact same thing as me saying "look at all the pastors molesting children. Let's ban religion!" Not all pastors molest children, not all gay people are predators. You're the same type of person to get offended when people say "all white men are evil"

"Protect the kids" is the same type of blanket statement as "stop killing gay/trans people" but you'll come up with a million reason why killing gay and trans people is a good thing.

[–]zayniman924 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link

Im not white

Im not a christian

I didnt say to kill anyone

If me or anyone else thinks its disgusting we are fully in our right to do so bc just like you we are entitled to our own opinions and beliefs. Like dawg I think anal sex with a woman is nasty. Does that mean Im a bigot too? Give me a break, people are allowed to not be into shit fuck outta here lmao

Not once in my post did I deny the existence of these people

You’re entire post is responses to a bunch of shit I never said.

Again

Parents are 100% in their right not to want their children around that. That is their right bc it is their child. They don’t care about your beliefs, your political ideology, or any other nonsense.

Its their kids.

Do u understand that? Like you will never have that right over them. Even the most peaceful parents would murder someone for overstepping that boundary. Most parents, good parents will do anything including throw their own life away for their kids

Do u really think that your ideas and opinions would overshadow the love they have for their child and the beliefs and values they want to pass on to them?

Have your own kids and raise them anyway you want, but other peoples kids are other peoples business it really does not matter what you think

And again its not about being gay, its about being insufferable annoying people who can never ever be wrong. Nobody cares what happened in the past every single race that has ever existed has face some sort of slavery/genocide/or existential threat some point in history.

Today in 2023 the lbgt community is the most protected class in America. To play the victim during this time in history is going to do nothing but get you eye rolls.

And you’re stuck that its about the lifestyle, no again its bc you ppl are fuckin annoying. You see how I said my opinion how you were shocked and tried to talk me out of it.

Like shut the fuck up bro. Who are u tell anyone else what to think? Ur the grand poomba here above us all? People are raised differently and have different beliefs. Deal with it. They exist. Just like gay people do. Its so weird that its like in order to justify one thing u try and destroy everything else around and double down on things you people KNOW is wrong.

If u wouldn’t condone it and took some sort of responsibility for the shit parents are concerned about they wouldn’t push back so much. Im not a christian never was never grew up with that but I heard the stories and I wouldnt send my kid to them either.

U need to understand people care about the safety of their child. They’re not going to risk it taking ur word for it. They are 100% entitled to feel uncomfortable around anyone. Thats their FEELING. Just like you guys have them.

I swear its like the basic shit u guys expect for yourselves you ppl are so unwilling to afford anyone else.

I dont want anyone to die. I dont want anyone banned.

All im saying is every parent is entitled to their own beliefs and nobody outside of that has any authority over that

[–]HungryPlan2467 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

Here's the thing. You say that it's just a "difference in opinion" and "we just want to control what our kids learn" but what you really mean is "we want to exclude our children from learning that people can be different from them." If it wasn't, you would have literally no problem with them learning about this.

You know what happens when people have no idea that people who are different than them exist? They reject anyone who is not like them because they "aren't the same." This is literally the basis between wars, colonization, slavery, etc., Do you have a problem with your children learning about slavery, the civil war, and the civil rights movement? Do you have a problem with your children learning that different races exist? This is the same thing. The reason why people are talking about it now is because it's that time. People used to talk about the civil rights movement a lot, and now people are generally more accepting of black people having rights.

You say that they're protected yet you spout a lot of hate towards them, you along with many others. There is no difference between learning about LGBTQ people and learning about the civil rights movement. Nobody is turning kids gay. People are more comfortable with letting people know that they aren't straight because now they feel comfortable enough to do so for the most part.

You know what happens when entire generations of people grow up unaware that people can be different from them? I'll repeat it again. Hate crimes, war, slavery, infringing on the rights of individuals. You know what people used to do to gay people back in the day? How do you treat gay people in your life?

Your plan is basically to mass ban people from learning that it's okay to be gay if you happen to be that way, and then expect people to not think that being gay is weird in the future.

[–]zayniman924 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

[–]HungryPlan2467 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago* (6 children) | Copy Link

None of them are irrelevant. I'd say that supporting the lives of individuals who have historically been targets of hate simply because they are different is a lot better than preventing children from learning that people being different is okay. That's literally stopping the problem at the root cause, teaching kids that people being different is okay. Do you not want your kids to learn that being different is okay? I don't have kids but I wouldn't have a problem with them learning that some people in the world are gay and that it's fine if they are.

And let's be honest, you don't have any control over what your kid learns. You're not making the school syllabus, you're not in that class telling the teacher what to teach each and every single day, you're not teaching them math or science.

"You have no right to tell a parent how they feel" I mean at face value sure, but it is absolutely a good thing to call out when people's feelings comes from a place of bigotry. Are you gonna be in defense of Nazi's and say "hey they're allowed to have their opinion that Jews should be gassed and executed."

Literally your argument is "people should have the right to control what their kids learn, such as not learning that people who are gay or trans should not be seen as disgusting or lesser in society simply because of who they are." What exactly is your issue with people learning that it's okay if someone is gay? How does this violate you or your child in any way.

[–]zayniman924 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

Bro it its irrelevant. U keep asking me,”how is it bad” “how is harmful”

Idc if that shit gave my child an infinity stone and 10 million dollars

If the parent says no then theres nothing beyond that. They don’t owe you explanation nor do they need one because they have absolutely control over that child.

There will never be a point in time where you or any other outsider will trump that. Never.

Like literally nothing u said matters to us nor do we place that above the things we want to pass to our children. Also stop comparing sexual orientation to race/religion

It doesnt hold the same weight or merrit. Just because ppl say bad stuff about them doesnt mean they arent the most protected class in america. Just off the fact they had the flag on the white house kills any sort of “marginalized” argument. Ppl just roll their eyes.

Its delusion.

Again understand that you can have your opinion but u will never outweigh the parent. It literally does not matter what that parents reasons are bc its their kid. And sure they can control it. The only place they cant is public school and even then they can be pulled by classes.

Ive done it for my kid and so have most other parents at the school. Its their choice. They dont need a reason. They dont need to explain it nor does it matter to them on how you or anyone else feels.

Why?

Because their kid will always come before you.

Why is this hard to understand?

[–]HungryPlan24671 point 3 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Sexual orientation absolutely has the same merit as racial oppression, because they have both literally been targets of hate. In some major religions, being gay will have you lynched. This isn't a case where "someone likes the color blue and it's okay to have a different opinion." We are teaching people that we should not be hateful towards certain demographics of people that have historically been targets of hate, in the same way that we have taught people to not hate on black people and that they should have rights.

You still have yet to say what your issue with learning about gay people is. You know damn well that the issue isn't just "I wanna control what my kids learn." That's completely bad faith. If that's the case then homeschool them, don't send them to any type of environment where you have no control over. The only thing you don't want them to learn is that it's okay that gay people exist. You've literally said it yourself that it's disgusting that kids are being taught this. You keep saying that "it's not about if they're gay" but then say a lot of things that contradict that. You're saying "I don't care if they're gay, but I don't want my children to learn that it's okay if gay people exist."

You're a prime example of why things like this need to be taught in school. You hate gay people so much that you don't think they deserve a place in society or in education. You know why? Because you think they're disgusting and weird. You know why you think that? Because you were never taught that it's okay if people are gay.

If your child has a best friend who reveals that they are gay in the future, what do you want your child to do? Call their friend disgusting and completely abandon them? Or know that it's not a big deal and continue their friendship like normal. We're teaching kids that there is no difference between someone being gay and someone being straight. We're normalizing it so that it's not a big deal anymore, but you keep making it a big deal that gay people exist because they are "disgusting".

[–]zayniman9241 point 3 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[–]HungryPlan24671 point 3 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

[–]zayniman9241 point 3 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

Bro again with more bulshit. Its very simple. If the parents dont want it, its not going to happen.

Period.

U can throw every name out there u want, close minded, bigot, hateful. Everything

None of that will ever even hold a fraction of the weight that the love and direction a parent has towards their child.

U will never ever change that and u will never ever have to power do anything about it.

Do u really think that calling someone close minded while forcing your way of thinking on them and completely dismissing theirs is going to gain you any respect?

The minute a parent says “Im gonna do this with my child”

And you try and interject with ur opinion

Your value as a person to that parent is gone. They cease to respect and take u seriously. Just because your beliefs are yours it doesn’t make them “right”

We don’t believe in that. We don’t want our children around that. And u will never change it. Everything u say beyond this point is a waste of your time…

Also u keep saying I wanna ban people. I never said that. In my post it verbatim says “I dont want anyone ban”

Taking your kid out of the class that day is what parents are doing. Im not stopping anyone from doing anything. We arent obligated to participate in something we dont believe in.

Thats not the same as wanting someone banned. U cant force ppl to do shit u realize this right? U have absolutely 0 power

[–]HungryPlan24671 point 3 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link

This isn't even your argument. Obviously I agree with the sentiment "I would like to educate my children on certain topics at home". No shit, nobody is saying that parents shouldn't be teaching their kids what they want. Nobody is saying that parents don't have a right to make decisions for their child. We're not telling you to send your kid to military bootcamp.

The inherent problem is Nickmercs saying "protec the kids from trans people because they are groomers" and that in itself comes from a harmful, disingenuous place. No shit people want to protect children, but you're saying that there's a danger in teaching children that it's okay if gay/trans people exist when there isn't. That's the problem. You're making a problem when there isn't one, and the problem you're creating is because you hate trans/gay people. Plain and simple.

You're not vocal about this same shit when it comes to teaching kids about world war 2, math, reading Edgar Allen Poe. The only problem you have is with kids learning about gay/trans people. Why is that? It's because you don't actually give a fuck about "controlling what my kids learn" and you know that. That's literally the fakest argument ever.

You know what has actually hurt children more with statistics numbers? Guns. Guns kill more kids than learning about gay people. That's obviously a whole different issue but this is something that the right isn't even vocal about at all yet they claim to care so much about their children.

[–]ResearcherFew1273[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]EdwardElric69 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

[–]zayniman924 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]EdwardElric69 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]ResearcherFew1273[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link