What can women do to help decrease male loneliness?

Bara-enthusiast · 2021-10-04T09:27:36+00:00

I think men can help themselves even if it's a long shot: drastically increasing their own standards to match women's. If women realize their ridiculous behavior isn't going to fly they will become more willing to compromise and aknowledge what they're worth

YesItsAThrowawayDa · 2021-10-04T09:52:32+00:00

There’s no real way of fixing this. I don’t think many people truly understand the extent to which women ABSOLUTELY DOMINATE all aspects of social life. It’s not even close.

You could make many arguments about the root cause (evolution, culture, etc.), but what’s more important to focus on is what maintains this dynamic. Today, what maintains this is male desperation. When there is this much demand for something, the producers of that “product” tend to get very selective. This could be instantly resolved if you could somehow convince every guy on the planet to stop chasing until there is balance, but that is less likely to happen than the Sun blowing up tomorrow. We are literally at a point right now where average guys are being forced to settle for zero-effort bottom of the barrel women.

Male desperation will continue to increase because guys are growing up in a world that:

1) does not give a single shit about their fulfillment or comfort. Seriously, even other men don’t give a shit about men. For every MRA there are a thousand white knights and woke male feminists

2) has become hyper-focused on superficial qualities as measures of happiness/success. Men are told to BUILD things while women are told to marry into them or just take them from the “patriarchy” by playing victim

Anyone thinking it’s not gonna get worse or that we can fix this by appealing to women is out of their minds. This is just the beginning.

_the_redditor__ · 2021-10-04T09:49:27+00:00

Just be there for them. You really don't need to go out of your way to do anything special. Just support them through hardships be a good friend.

Vidar34 · 2021-10-04T17:08:21+00:00

They can let men have their own spaces to get together with each other without women intruding on them, or taking over the male space with demands that they now also cater to women, or be labelled misogynist.

Selfmade_3127 · 2021-10-05T07:27:18+00:00

our instincts are optimized for this scenario: woman tries to find a man in a small group or tribe ... she will try to optimize for provisioning/protection/social status/looks ... but is limited by her looks (=which men she can attract). If she's a 6/10 she will get a 6/10 because those will commit and provide/protect. If she goes for a 10/10, yes he will f*ck her, but will never commit. Offspring without provisioning/protection will starve to death ... so mission failed.

We broke evolution: today we give women government money for nothing ... every one of them can fuck around and raise a child with the tax money paid by all men.

It's so easy ... don't give women government money don't turn motherhood into a government paid job

Nishuu-j217 · 2021-10-04T19:54:41+00:00

Waiting for feminists to come with their "women don't owe you shit" slogan

Gaiinahat · 2021-10-05T02:30:44+00:00

I think one of the main causes of men feeling loneliness is they've grown up in a society which brainwashes them into the idea they are supposed to revolve their lives around worshiping pussy. It's stupid, and they're in the wrong mindset. They need to learn to revolve their lives around themselves. They are their own world. Everything they do should revolve around them, and their happiness and health and well-being. If by chance a couple of moons (women) drift into their orbit, hooray for them. But don't be mistaken: loneliness is a feminist word.

benethorpl · 2021-10-04T09:02:20+00:00

with dating apps where meeting a new person is a swipe a way

95% of men don't have a queue of people waiting for them on tinder. Average man's match rate is 0.5 percent, as in one match for every 200 right swipes. And of course if you swipe right too much, you get shadowbanned.

why has male loneliness seemed to be on the increase?

because of female hypergamy(because before social media they were logistically and geographically limited in terms of the pool of men they had access to), and globalists' plan to divide the societies as much as possible(because people divided are much easier to rule over).

What do you think are the root causes that are worsening these feelings of loneliness?

social media. Manipulated images of romanticized lifestyles where everyone is rich and beautiful. Compared to the reality of most men, you just get the realisation that you don't really stand a chance to compete. Pair it up with 95% of men not even being considered human by women they could've had a hope of starting a family a decade ago, and there you go.

AcanthocephalaLost77 · 2021-10-04T17:33:51+00:00

Sadly I don't think this problem is going to be solved in one generation. That's why I quit dating.

Clear-War5922 · 2021-10-05T11:41:15+00:00

Nothing can be done by women. Women only go for the top 20 percent of males. And the rest stay lonely.

2021-10-05T12:08:05+00:00

Stop piling on the hate, blame and bullshit multiple times every day. The rest is up to men.

Shellbullet228 · 2022-03-01T03:46:27+00:00

Men need to treat more women like friends and not just people to try to have sex with. Let relationships grow organically without expectations. Put yourself out there for who you are and you will find like-minded individuals.

FenaPugi · 2021-10-04T09:10:08+00:00

Vote for non-theistic political affliations who can fathom scientific methodology.

Dogma is why we still live like this.

evenmoremeancomments · 2021-10-04T10:21:58+00:00

dating apps where meeting a new person is a swipe a way, why has male loneliness seemed to be on the increase?

Because most women only swipe on the best men, leaving most out of the dating pool. In return, this favors insecurity and unreachable standards, which only fuel the loneliness

What do you think are the root causes that are worsening these feelings of loneliness?

The mundane and superficial society that feminism built up until now, where dating is with no commitment for the woman because she has to "always strive for the best and never settle".

What can women do to help decrease male loneliness or help others who struggle with it?

The way I see it, this isn't a problem women can solve or help with. It's unfortunate, but men need to cope with loneliness themselves with whatever mean they find necessary, from gettibg invested in countless hobbies to therapy. Plus, it's not like loneliness can be solved by being in a relationship with a woman alone. I'd rather have a net of good friends that support me (and I found that most times that support is unconditional), so that I can support them as well.

Angryasfk · 2021-10-04T12:58:12+00:00

Well one thing is stop barging into men’s spaces! We’re already having women push into the Men’s Shed movement in Australia, and recurring attacks on any club with all male memberships (there’s plenty of clubs with all female memberships, and not just gyms - but they’re never attacked by the anti-discrimination commission or the media).

Complex-Stress373 · 2021-10-04T15:20:59+00:00

Is the most stupid in the world. Women are competing like crazy for the same 3 guys among millions. These 3 guys have muscles, style and money.

That is. Cannot be more stupid this selection. Women think that they get someone special but for these three guys they are 1 more in millions.

Seems like women building a patriarchal hierarchy by themselves

DubsPackage · 2021-10-04T15:07:14+00:00

Most women have no time to date or spend time with a man or start a family.

They are too busy getting a third masters in between working 40 hours a week.

The govt and the economy promote materialism and women's economic independence as a form of population control.

They want to deprive the lower classes from reproduction.

It's like a form of economic eugenics.

Meanwhile, society gets more and more gynocentric, and most men don't want to participate, they drop out to become shut-ins and committ slow suicide.

Politicians know this, and they support it.

HaroldTFinch · 2021-10-05T20:12:40+00:00

Women don't do anything and no man should expect anything.

Stop paying for women's dinner, vacations, clothes or purses.

Don't allow the government to bail out women's student loans. Don't let them minimize 67% of debt is theirs with their 60% enrollment rate. Don't fall for this crap where the media states student loan debt disproportionally does anything. The person chooses their field, chooses to work during University, and the university they attend. It's on them.

Demand women register for the draft.

Don't subsidize feminine jobs they do just because they want to do them. Don't allow government to be any less than equal with child support. Regulate and track every penny of it. Every penny. Goes to the children. Remember the children?

Change laws that a woman needs a contract to secure child support before the child is born. She can keep it or not, but if she didn't secure a contract, it's on her for the cost of keeping it. Government assistance should be higher for contracted couples and less to people without contracts. This is the opposite of the way those fucking idiots do it in Canada so it's obviously a more equitable solution.

Demand working physical jobs have early and good retirement benefits. No need to retire and die 2.5 years later.

All that will decrease men's loneliness because their contributions to society will be more evident and equal.

But for now, get hobbies, meet people, and volunteer. Contribute to other than women only. And don't determine your lonliness is gender solvable.

Ecstatic-Flounder-48 · 2021-10-05T23:54:02+00:00

Honestly OP. Most younger men’s loneliness stems from a pretty vicious cycle.

Because women stereotypically (relative to men) have an easier time getting access to sex from the other gender (regardless of experience, sometimes even looks, etc), they become a lot more experienced, have a lower likelihood of being lonely, and get to be more picky when they date. To men that are raised believing in traditional values of dating and finding the ‘right one’, these women will not go for them or help them lose their virginity because they’ve been with experienced men and don’t need that kind of ‘boredom’ in their lives. Most simps are perfectly ok with handholding a sexually inexperienced woman (because to most simpy men, sex is sex). This is why most men say that you have to be a top 20% man to get the majority women. Women typically just tell someone they want to lose their virginity and they lose it, with men it gets significantly more complicated. -obviously some women are too ugly for this but it’s the bottom 15% of women vs the bottom 45-60% of men.

These men either A, learn what it takes and get out of their shit, or B, stay with their current mentality and just get more resentful of women or begin to hate themselves (incels). While women are out partying with all the men that are giving them attention, those men that do not reach this elite standard end up feeling upset with themselves. And more times than not, most women don’t realize that this happens, so they assume most men are getting it as much as the 20% and they assume that all 100% of these men are assholes rather than the 20% that get all the attention and can display the same asshole behavior that most attractive women do.

And what ultimately ends up happening is that women get older, realize they don’t have as much social standing and sexual market value and often try to settle for someone who is modestly attractive, has money, and can provide for her and her lifestyle. Usually this is not a top 20% man, because 80% of women cannot have 20% of men in monogamous relationships. And because these are the men that haven’t gotten any experience or confidence and have lived very lonely lifestyles, women tend to get bored and divorce these men. And that’s why of the 50% of marriages that end up in divorce 40% are initiated by women (obviously there’s cheating, domestic abuse, other reasons, etc, but the point stands). That’s also why a lot of men skip marriage. Because they’ve seen what I’ve outlined happen and they know that it’s unnecessary risk. Women walk away with half their shit and they still end up alone. So men stay reclusive and lonely.

There’s two things that can be done in this dynamic. Women need to focus more on a man’s character than his social value when they date. And men need to stop simping and elevating women’s egos.

To be clear I’m not blaming any gender, this is just the current dynamic we find ourselves in. To assign blame is to ask whether the chicken or the egg came first and we can’t really answer that question.

Explise209 · 2021-11-04T17:54:25+00:00

Hugs always help everyone :D

A_the_Nobody · 2022-02-26T14:48:21+00:00

It's a fine question.

We're guys. If we have to cry we have to hide in the center of the earth.

If we're picky about what we want in our girlfriend/wife we're misogynistic.

If we talk about geeky stuff like video games and comics, we're not quirky we're gross needs.

If we try to stream or upload videos no one will care for out content because we're not a girl.

It might be easier than ever to connect with more people but it's also easier to get rejected, mocked, ridiculed, get ghosted, get replaced and be self conscious about one's flaws.

At least, that's how I see it.

Repulsive_Pound4436 · 2022-03-08T11:59:48+00:00

I don't think the solution is such a simple thing as "what can women do?". Men are raised to never ask for help, never show feelings. We have to be 'manly' but then we are accused of being emotionless. Don't feel like I am attacking women on this. Men so this to ea h other as well. If a male shows he cares for a women, but is not trying to sleep with her, he is accused of being a simp.

cnbader3 · 2022-04-28T02:19:46+00:00

Very interesting. I have a loneliness problem. Fake people on social media is very disappointing

Brother_Unlikely · 2022-07-28T15:55:13+00:00

This sounds like projection

Title	What can women do to help decrease male loneliness?
Author	theholyromanempire42
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Date	October 4, 2021 8:45 AM UTC (4 years ago)
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