Remember brothers it's always about her wants

In today's world whether it's the media, whether it's society, whether its anything they have all put women to such a high standard that these women do not care to value what they bring into a relationship.

Many guys especially simps and white knights they have based their entire existence on the validation of women. If a women rejects them or anything they go crazy and like in my other posts I said these whiteknights/desi knights 😂 will agree on EVERYTHING she got to say in hope's to get her.

These guys put her on the pedestal so much and focus on her needs that these guys forget about themselves and what she has to offer in the relationship. For the sake of so called "companionship" and some validation from her these guys simp for her to the moon and back. Many girls say that the guy does this and this and this for her and she wants him to do this and that. Have you ever heard any girls say what they are bringing or doing for him in relationship? Nope. Many girls think that they themselves "are the table" and are entitled to everything lmao. If you ask them what you bring into the relationship they will say "I am the table" and still after hearing this many guys will simp for her.

Wtf has society come upto? Remember boys mgtow and all these things exist for a reason. The brothers on mgtow they know the reality and many have experienced first hand themselves and got divorced raped and their lives ruined because of going after validation which was women for them. Just remember its always about her wants and needs and nothing for you of value in a relationship. If guys will still simp for women after knowing the truth then I've got no sympathy for you. GYOW brothers.

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Honestly dont think its feasible to be muslim and not try to get married. Theres no halal outlet otherwise. We know men on average have 12-17x more testosterone than women. Testosterone is the primary driver for libido. A mans sexual desire is very high and imo its very unnatural to suppress those natural urges

Allah has given us a halal way to release it and provide tranquility with our spouses.Its interesting reading up about oxytocin and its effects on the brain/love and bonding helps illustrates my point.

I know theres famous scholars in the past who didnt but maybe their will power was strong in the regards of temptation of women or they had their own personal reasons.

Also with marriage yeah of course protect yourself and your assets by not registering with the state as its very unfair on men.

Brother whatever you're saying it's TRUE. But for the so called positives of marriage their are many negatives. Sex indeed is important part of a mans life and that's why many men marry in the first place. It's an obvious fact. But for that 1 benefit many men forget and simp and use the so called "hope strategy" that NAWALT.

If I want rizq and I pray to Allah to give me it and If I stay home and do nothing, do you think Allah will give it to me? I just cant "hope" it will come. I have to go out and find work and then Allah will guide. I think you know about the camel analogy. So after knowing the statistics and reality of many marriages and them still going on the hope strategy what do you expect?

The brothers on mgtow and some of the brothers that are miserable in marriages are a big example. You really think all these brothers married have a good sex life? Many women use sex as a weapon to get things their way. How many posts you see and read that when a guy goes the halal route to pursue it that even then he doesn't get what he wants? All the time ppl say bs answers like go to therapy and "couples counsel" and all that bs thinking it will work. It's all bs. People say things because for the sake of saying something and sad part is the guy is stuck with her and now is the beta (he's providing for her and not getting sex) so what's better knowing the facts and not risking it or gambling it?

I understand some of the concerns and many brothers I know that are married have similar issues with intimacy. However the brothers that have read up on red pill ideas alhamdiullah and they have been able to reverse the female sexual agency power dynamic with intimacy in their marriages. Along with using competition anxiety in a subtle way ( not in a way that causes pain on their spouses) the brothers have been able to have better intimacy with their partners and preventing what is known as 'starfish' sex in the red pill ideas.

I hope to be able to help my fellow brothers in this regard with intimacy and help increase their bonds with their wives. Personally think if we can help rectify men's issues in their marriages - IA society will get better as men have a greater capacity of influence over women in relationships and family life.

its obviously your life if you want to get married or not. But theres no doubt if we believe in islam and the prophet saw was our example - theres are many hadiths praising his love for women and good examples of his playful nature with them. I am aware of some hadiths that may be viewed as controversial in regards to women.

All I'm saying bro its your life, you got to what you have in this life. Don't let anyone tell you what do to as some of these MGTOW groups may influence you with all the statistics and stuff.

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Honestly dont think its feasible to be muslim and not try to get married

What are you talking about. Of course it's feasible. Many great scholars were unmarried.

A mans sexual desire is very high and imo its very unnatural to suppress those natural urges

Then why do we suppress those desires before marriage? Higher testosterone is not an excuse for us not to control ourselves. We must and this is an ongoing battle we have to face constantly.

And there's no guarantee if you get married you'll be having sex anyway. So what's your point?

.Its interesting reading up about oxytocin and its effects on the brain/love and bonding helps illustrates my point

It's also interesting reading up about the divorce laws and how many men have lost everything including their house in a failed marriage.

Good luck with that. You need to change the narrative and start advocating for Nikah only. Most Muslim imams believe that Nikah only is haram. So good luck trying to change the narrative.

Look, in today's time the dangers of marriage are HUGE. That's the only reason people go their own way because it's not worth it trying to find a woman who isn't like the others. Let me give you a hint. They are all the same. They are all brainwashed by feminism and if your marriage fails and she walks out on you, best believe you are the one who is going to be paying for it.

If you want to take the risk it's up to you.

One thing is for certain though. At least controlling your sexual urges as a single man doesn't have the potential to ruin your entire life and make you end up homeless. Marriage does.

For these reasons, MGTOW is a viable and even an Islamic option in our day and age. Do you honestly believe the Sunnah is to marry a ungrateful woman? No. If anything this is HARAAM. Let alone Sunnah.

People who go their own way to protect their imaan and Islam is a commendable thing and they will be rewarded for this in sha Allah.

As we know there will be a time where the best thing a man can do is withdraw from society and be alone. Islam recognises this as a virtue and this is essentially what MGTOW preaches. Because society has become so perverse on some instances it is better to be alone. Islam also acknowledges this too.

This hadeeth was narrated by al-Bukhaari in a number of places in his Saheeh, such as (7088) Kitaab al-Fitan, where he narrated that Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Soon there will come a time when the best wealth a Muslim will have will be sheep which he will take to the mountaintops and places where rain falls, fleeing for the sake of his religious commitment from tribulation.” And Muslim narrated a similar hadeeth in his Saheeh (1888), also from Abu Sa’eed al-Khudri (may Allaah be pleased with him), which says that a man came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and said, “Which of the people is best?” He said, “A man who strives in jihad for the sake of Allaah with his wealth and his self.” He asked, “Then who?” He said, “A believer in a mountain pass who worships Allaah and leaves the people alone.”

As mentioned before I am aware of famous scholars in the past who were not married. But they were in the minority and they are humans who can make mistakes/faults/ their choice etc. They are not infallible. We must take the prophet saw as our role model and he advocated for people to married like himself.

Also I dont agree with painting all women the same. There are good women out there and iA we can find them. Likewise there are many bad men out there too.

You mentioned about ungrateful women. If you have read red pill books you may be aware that as the man has a greater capacity of influence on their spouses and concepts like keeping frame, taking responsibility,stoicism, understanding female hypergamy,solipsism etc my point is that as men its our responsibility to lead our families and influence them to be good, grateful people by leading by example like our prophet saw

Have you considered that maybe they had alternative means without the need to get married like servants/ right hand possesses or personal private issues they did not wish to disclose. Or the fact they had incredible will power to abstain and simply most men cannot achieve due to our physiology as I explained before. Men are thirsty by nature and its through islam and red pill that personally helped me reduced these urges.

In the rationale male rollo mentioned a study about If you inject a women with testosterone such as female body builders - they report high increase of their libidos. It shows the big role of testosterone plays in sexual urges that women wont understand fully what men have to go through with their urges and thus a lot of guys get emotionally powerplayed by their partners with intimacy.

Reason why I mentioned oxytocin plus also dopamine and serotonin is they play roles in our mental wellbeing and are fundemental if you want to optimise peace and contentment in your life which will help us be in a better state of mind to worship Allah effectively.

Many red pill brothers have told me after marriage there minds are clearer because now they have a halal outlet to release those urges compared to when they were single.

Anyway its your life your choice, you dont have to get married and seek companionship.

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Title	Remember brothers it's always about her wants
Author	Ryanreynolds543
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Date	June 3, 2020 8:58 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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