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[–]tridentgum 14 points15 points16 points 9 years ago (36 children) | Copy Link
Can you just admit and say you're racist now?
[–]FashyDash 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Can you just admit that you don't know the difference between Racial Realism and Racial Hatred?
[–]tridentgum 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Once you admit you're a racist, sure.
[–]giantdong69 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh and you are not a racist
[–]Man_Flu 2 points3 points4 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As a white guy, i see this as being offensive to both blacks and whites. Being offensive to both does not make you a racist.
[–]BillNyTheAltRightGoy 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (31 children) | Copy Link
What about this picture isn't true? Unfortunately reality is "racist", we can either burry our heads in the sand or we can face these unpleasant realities head on and figure out the best plan.
[–]tridentgum 9 points10 points11 points 9 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
I can find plenty of pictures showing whites as a disorganized mob and black as organized together.
[–]BillNyTheAltRightGoy 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
Of course you can. Historically though, it'd be hard to find many comparisons. Most of these pictures posted will just be shit tier memes and jokes but there is a underlying truth to them.
I suggest you stick around and take a serious look at the quality material posted on this sub. I used to think this was all racist nonsense as well but once you are willing to open up and actually look into it, you'd have to be lying to say none of it is true. We are not just dumb uneducated racists, I can assure you.
[–]tridentgum 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
I suggest you stick around and take a serious look at the quality material posted on this sub. I used to think this was all racist nonsense as well but once you are willing to open up and actually look into it, you'd have to be lying to say none of it is true.
Lol, the sub has existed for a few days in current form, you've existed for a month, but I'm supposed to believe you haven't had these deep seated beliefs for more than a few days? Fuck outta here, it's clear that you've believed this racist shit for quite a while.
There is no "quality" posted here, it's just hate - hate against black people, hate against Jewish people, hate against anything that isn't your favorite brand of white.
[–]JohnnyTruthSeed2 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (17 children) | Copy Link
Funny... I don't see you crying out about the blatant racism toward whites, virtually everywhere else on Reddit.
And this is why we will never take people like you seriously. With you people it's always, "Equality for me, but not for thee!"
[–]tridentgum 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
What "blatant racism towards whites" do you see on "everywhere" on reddit lol
[–]JohnnyTruthSeed2 8 points9 points10 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4pxeha/black_people_twitter_mod_encourages_racism/
That's just one example, but I think most people are ready to admit that many societies have unfortunately deemed it appropriate to be racist against only one group, white people. Sadly, even cucked-whites join in the hatred.
Did you know that fertile white-women represent only 2% of the world-population? (Who is really the minority?)
Were you concerned when fatal ethnic-cleansing was committed against whites in S. Africa, Armenia or Syria? (Do white lives matter?)
Did you protest when ISIS targeted the white, N. African, Yazidis for rape and murder? (Have you ever stood up for the rights of white people?)
[–]The-Chronic 4 points5 points6 points 9 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Here's some examples.
[–]tridentgum 1 point2 points3 points 9 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
no context thanks
[–]The-Chronic 3 points4 points5 points 9 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
It's from an /r/Drama post about this sub.
[–]tridentgum1 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Okay so your whole point justifying being a racist is so you can counter racism?
Why not try not being a negative, hateful person on the internet instead?
[–]The-Chronic1 point 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
Um, no? We look at facts and statistics regarding the differences between races. That's all. You keep using ad hominem and strawman fallacies trying to portray us as "hateful racists" when in reality we acknowledge genetic differences between races.
Instead of trying to debate us based on your own beliefs and morals, look at the facts we post and attempt to disprove them.
[–]tridentgum0 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
look at the facts we post and attempt to disprove them.
I did, and said that you're presenting facts without context and making a claim that it represents the whole truth. What did you do? You just quote the same "fact" back to me and didn't even respond to what I said. There's no point in "debating" you because you don't want to do that. You just want to present "facts" that "prove" your view.
[–]The-Chronic2 points 9 years ago [recovered] | Copy Link
You had said:
I'm not arguing that in 2013 39% of all cop-killers were black, you're just using it as an excuse to say "black people are violent". Aren't impoverished people more violent as a whole? Aren't blacks more impoverished than any other group in America?
And I answered:
So poor whites should have the same crime rate as poor blacks correct? Actually, no. The poorest whites are less likely to go to prison than even rich blacks.
That was the second one, you never responded to me saying you're taking it out of context.
Also, you can't just throw a paragraph at me - I can't read the fucking thing, lol. You happen to have this $40 PDF, or do we just "research" by reading abstracts now? Again, you're providing a "fact" without the context of it.
It's out of context? How? That fact coupled with the fact that poor whites have lower crime rates than even rich blacks shows that there isn't socioeconomic reasoning behind it. So how is it out of context?
And here's the full PDF.
It is important to note that in these 27-year likelihood estimates, economically disadvantaged blacks and Hispanics are overrepresented, and thus, the differences in likelihoods also may be affected by other related economic factors such as income.
That over representation bias though - one of many tools a racist may use to paint black people in a bad light.
You're ignoring this:
Data indicate that although higher levels of wealth were associated with lower rates of incarceration, the likelihood of future incarceration still was higher for blacks at every level of wealth compared to the white likelihood, as well as the Hispanic likelihood, which fell below the white likelihood for some levels of wealth
Not at all, I'm pointing out what I pointed out before: you're ignoring context of the situation as is this study.
What is the context, other than "socioeconomic factors contribute to crime rate, but even when taking into account socioeconomic factors blacks still commit more crime"? I'm genuinely curious here. I honestly don't know how I'm misinterpreting this.
The study says they overrepresented one race over another and the may be other factors that this study doesn't take into account that may be contributing to the results. What don't you understand about that.
Just to give a background on this paper:
Respondents were separated into three major racial/ethnic groups by survey screeners: Hispanic, black and non-black, non-Hispanic. The ‘‘non-black, non-Hispanic’’ group includes American Indians, Asians, Asian Indians, Pacific Islanders and other non-white identities, including those who self-identified as black or Hispanic.
So the original survey included those from all different racial/ethnic backgrounds. However,
Among those placed in the aggregate categories of American Indian, Asian/Pacific Islander, black, Hispanic, white, other and none, there are too few observations for analyses on group-specific levels of wealth except for black, Hispanic and white respondents. Therefore, we restrict our analyses in this study to those three groups.
So this paper is only looking at blacks, Hispanics, and whites. Now,
The survey also oversamples respondents from economically deprived groups, called the supplemental subsample.
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...after the 1990 survey, ‘‘non-black non-Hispanic’’ members of the supplemental subsample were no longer eligible, bringing the total to 9964 in 1991.
So those who came from economically deprived backgrounds were oversampled, but after 1990 "non-white, non-Hispanic" ethnicities were no longer included in that oversampling. So for this paper, the statistics from before 1990 are not oversampled towards or against any race - only for those from economically deprived backgrounds.
So when you quoted,
it is talking about the long-term 27-year studies. Here is that table showing the likelihood of incarceration during 1986-1990 based on 1985 wealth for males. So this table oversamples respondents from all economically deprived groups, not just blacks and Hispanics.
As you can see, blacks commit more crime per capita in almost every net worth percentile than whites and Hispanics, except when wealth is over $68,693 (wealth is adjusted to 2012 dollars, and family wealth includes any co-owned assets with spouse but not parental wealth). Here it is shown in a bar graph.
You can see how even the poorer whites are less likely to be incarcerated than the wealthier blacks. The evidence really is indisputable.
And even if you were right, how does socioeconomic background explain the fact that 14,000 interracial rapes take place a year, and 99.9% are black men raping white women? Does being poor make you more likely to rape people? And even if that were true, blacks would still rape at higher rates than whites, even when taking the socioeconomic background disparity into account.
There's also no racial discrimination in the justice system. So what could be causing blacks to commit more crime? Could it be, oh, I don't know, genetics?
[–]The-Chronic 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
All I see is buzzwords and no arguments.
[–]surly_chemist -2 points-1 points0 points 9 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Reality is not racist. Races, in a genetic sense, don't really exist, they are social constructs. Your lack of objectivity, on the other hand, is incredibly racist.
[–]BillNyTheAltRightGoy 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You can't honestly believe that can you? Races are a social construct? You know how ridiculous that sounds right.
[–]BillNyTheAltRightGoy 6 points7 points8 points 9 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1993074,00.html
Doctors disagree with you. This is just one quick example since I'm currently at work. I can gladly supply more later for you.
[–]Boopy777 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Of ALL the examples you could have found this is the LEAST useful! I could help you but won't, that's how annoyingly bad this example was. Yes there are differences in bone structure, for example, but this has nothing to do with IQ, ethics, morals, etc. and the one area where it might affect things, you don't get to know.
[–]surly_chemist -1 points0 points1 point 9 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The problem is lumping people into categories based on arbitrary phenotypic traits such as being "white" or "black." Sure, different closely related groups will have higher amounts of shared alleles, but just looking at skin color and drawing conclusions is lazy and overly simplistic. Btw, I have a Ph.D. Too, so I actually do know what I'm talking about, here.
[–]BillNyTheAltRightGoy 5 points6 points7 points 9 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Races are real, they have differences. Both physical and mental. There is a reason Africans dominate football and basketball while Asians dominate tech jobs. The different races also have differences in IQ. Each race has outliers but on average these things are true. No one is superior, everyone is different. Btw, I have a Ph.D. Too, so I also know what I'm talking about, here.
[–]surly_chemist 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Enviroment, nutrition, poverty all play a role in realized "IQ." Different cultures emphasis on education also contributes to why you say see more asians in tech jobs. There are no racial significant differences in IQ.
[+]SUBteacher333 points 9 years ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
And you're a fucking idiot.
How so?
[–]illpoet 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
baltimore represent!
[–]RedheadAuburn 0 points1 point2 points 9 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Atleast the Nazis had organisation skills, and discipline.
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And you're a fucking idiot.
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