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10 Misconceptions About Guys that Are "Naturally" Successful With Women

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June 21, 2014
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Title 10 Misconceptions About Guys that Are "Naturally" Successful With Women
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Comments 25
Date June 21, 2014 5:18 PM UTC
(12 years ago)
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[–][deleted] 22 points23 points24 points 12 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link

Being attractive literally changes your entire reality. Any fat guy who has got in shape can tell you this. I still remember the first party I went to after losing weight and lifting for half a year. Nobody had seen me for months, and then suddenly I had two attractive girls that night talking to me and touching me. I didn't even have to try. I just stood there. That's how easy it becomes.

I also have a female friend (yeah yeah) who has a VERY attractive, white boyfriend, and he gets flirted on constantly by other girls, even in front of her. Waitresses give him their numbers when they're out at dinner. For casual sex, there's pretty much no TRP strategy needed once you reach a certain threshold of attractiveness.

Strangest of all, people begin to genuinely think attractive people are good from the get-go.

[–]Endorsed ContributorMarsupian 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Strangest of all, people begin to genuinely think attractive people are good from the get-go.

This is so true. It's not just sexual attraction. People perceive attractive people as more successful and intelligent. I am a student who has to do a lot of skill tests (healthcare, get graded on communication with patients, manual skills etc. in small settings) and It's pretty obvious that the attractive people already make a better first impression when being graded. When I am graded be female teachers my grades go up considerably. Especially as a male being attractive immediately gives the impression of competence.

[–]PaperbackParrot 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

It is called the Halo Effect

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect

[–]Woodsie_Lord 6 points7 points8 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

Brb, acquiring membership to the nearest gym.

[–]PlanB_pedofile 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

you won't regret it. 30's went to the doc's office and the nurse asked if I was a runner. Looking at my pulse and blood pressure she was kinda curious and what I've been doing.

Well, eating less chips and crap for starters and gym 3 times a week. BMI is of decent average level. Not bad really considering men in my age range have to deal with cholesterol, overweight, out of shape.

[–]anokaycanadianguy 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

This is not necessarily true.

I have been a chubby high school student who got very fit in university and then got chubby for a year and then went back to being in shape. I have been through both sides of the transformation and these are my findings:

Chubby highschool student who couldn't get girls -> Fit university student who got a lot of girls.

In this transformation - I got fit and healthy but for some odd reason, my biggest emphasis was not on my looks but my communication skills. I did dressed exceptionally well even if it was to just go out to buy milk. I read many sales books, marketing, etc. I was getting women and women wanted me. It was great.|

Fit university student spends a year getting chubby.

After much success - I stopped caring about eating right and going out for daily runs, etc. I was mostly out partying and eating out a lot everyday. I was happy. The funny thing is that I was still getting new girls to fuck despite growing a tummy. At this point, I was wearing shorts everywhere with old t-shirts.

I admit that cashiers/waitresses/random girls were no longer approaching me by any means but my success rate did not decreased significantly because of my appearance at all.

back to normal

I still haven't gotten back to my amazing shape but I am pretty close - I dropped the whole dressing up wherever I go. I only dress well for work (it's sort of required) but aside from that you'll catch me wearing jeans and a t shirt...sometimes, I don't wear shoes and just go out with flip flops and most of the time, I don't even keep my shoes on wherever I am.

I am currently fucking 3 different girls and all are pretty good looking with normal lives. I dress up when I go out to clubs and have a very good success rate.

What are my conclusions?

Appearances matter when it comes to girls approaching you but aside from that, if you can talk: you can get any girl you want. It's all about the attitude. Women want a man, not a boy. I was a boy, a pussy ass boy, but you need to learn how to be a man and women will want you.

[–]1PaulRivers10 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Great post, and that's similar to what I've experienced as well.

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

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[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

There's an extremely large thread on bodybuilding forums dedicated to people sharing stories about how their lives changed after losing weight or getting in shape. Google it up sometime. There's literally thousands of stories in there of varying degrees of success.

There are also the askreddit threads that are titled something like, 'what's it like to be an attractive woman/man?' One story that stands out is this beautiful girl who hit the wall and ended up just being a normal person in her 40s. For her entire life, she simply believed people were kind and nice, and that those who complained a lot about life were just unintelligent whiners.

But in her later life, the reality of the world hit her like a ton of bricks. She couldn't believe her worldview had been so utterly wrong the whole time. This is what you have to keep in mind when you deal with attractive young women. Their worldview is so utterly different from any man on the planet.

[–]1PaulRivers10 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Nobody had seen me for months, and then suddenly I had two attractive girls that night talking to me and touching me. I didn't even have to try. I just stood there. That's how easy it becomes.

Did you sleep with them that night, or the same girls later?

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link

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[–]Endorsed Contributor30303030303030 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago* (7 children) | Copy Link

https://i.imgur.com/uOeN3IM.jpg

;)

edit: this is an answer to http://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/28qel3/10_misconceptions_about_guys_that_are_naturally/cidl4cs

[–]Labore_Et_Constantia 10 points11 points12 points 12 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

Attraction is like 70+% visual in ONLINE DATING

That percentage lowers itself IRL not in the sense of initial attraction, but more so when it comes down to: Game Ability to speak well Posture/tonality Social IQ

Everybody should be lifting, have a good wardrobe and strive to look their best by having hair/facial hair that enhances what they're working with, but looks aren't the ONLY thing that matters, specifically if you have social proof or status.

[–]Endorsed Contributor30303030303030 4 points5 points6 points 12 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link

Oh I get that, thus the ";)"

But let's be honest, you won't see guys who look like models friend zoned, not initially, if they will go full beta mode a female will eventually despise them but she will get fucked earlier. That's the difference from an average looking to ugly beta. I've seen beautiful women hit on absolute morons, and I'm not being jealous, just because they looked good. All game these guys had was natural "abundance mentality" simply because women were always coming to them.

[–]1PaulRivers10 -5 points-4 points-3 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

But let's be honest, you won't see guys who look like models friend zoned, not initially, if they will go full beta mode a female will eventually despise them but she will get fucked earlier.

Bullshit. I'm 6"0, popular with girls, and look good in a suit. I got friendzones up the ass - the girl started hanging out with me all the time, started moving into my house practically (always wanting to crash here, leaving vhs tapes here - I don't own a vhs player!), etc.

I asked her out. She went out on a date with me, I asked her out at the end, she gave me some variation of "I don't want to ruin our friendship". Meanwhile she's obsessed with guys who didn't look as good as me, and only rarely returned her texts (I know, because she told me all about it).

In retrospect, had I had better game I could have slept with her (later she contacted me, wanted me to come visit her and started talking about how she thought we had great chemistry).

Had I had better game, I could have slept with her the first time. Sure, being attractive was an advantage in getting her to call me with an offer, but that was only after she slept with a couple of other guys way less good looking than I was.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

You disagreed with what the previous commenter said but proceeded to write a lengthy post that proved his point.

What he said:

But let's be honest, you won't see guys who look like models friend zoned, not initially

What your post said:

I'm an attractive male that had a girl leaving hints about wanting to fuck me initially but I went full beta on her and now I got friendzoned.

[–]1PaulRivers10 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

(rolls eyes) Really? You cut out the important part of the quote?

But let's be honest, you won't see guys who look like models friend zoned, not initially, if they will go full beta mode a female will eventually despise them but she will get fucked earlier.

The other poster is claiming that Good Looking + Beta == still have sex. My post is - that's a bunch of crap, they'll still friend zone you without sleeping with you if you act Beta.

Good Looking + Alpha Game > Average Looking + Alpha Game > Good Looking + Beta

[–][deleted] 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]QQ_L2P 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Proof of RP in action is always appreciated. Especially by the newer subscribers out there who maybe haven't seen this kind of thing before.

[–]cooltrip 7 points8 points9 points 12 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

The only misconception about guys that are naturally successful with women is that handsomeness and physical qualifiedness are not the only important thing.

[–]1PaulRivers10 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

(rolls eyes) Good luck with that.

[–]PlanB_pedofile 1 point2 points3 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I've seen fat guys with skinny 8s hanging off their arms. Chubby dudes at the center of a table full of women. Womanizing chubby guys.

Those men got massive game. They are publishers, run livecam sites, and modeling agents. These guys are surrounded by women because they provide something for women. Women get with them for they have both money and power.

The men know their status, so they place no pussy on a pedestal. They'll Next an 8 girl over a single flake and hang right into another 8 girl. Women are disposable to them as they have access to so many in their field of work. They are also not afraid to approach. They'll slap asses, game, neg, and women with either eat it up and sit in their laps or don't.

The key is, they don't get butthurt over the ones that don't. Oh a girl rejects their game? Oh well, move onto the next one that does. They know numbers, they know there's 1000s of fish out there. Can't get tits and ass from one gal, you can get tits and ass from another. Confidence is sky high and they are ambitious at getting what they want.

So how does a guy with an attractiveness rating of 6 get hot girls to flirt and hang off of them? Massive balls and confidence. That and owning a strip club or a call girl publication helps too.

[–]Mihawk01 2 points3 points4 points 12 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

Do not agree with many things said there. Basically, many of those mosconceptions, are actually often true.

Of course, there are times when they aren't, and this article zeroes on them. Whole article is about it.

It is like saying gold diggers don't always like flashy cars. Sure, but they mostly do.

[–]muffinmonk 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Everyone loves flashy cars.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 12 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I think. I think I just had a "there is no spoon" epiphany from reading this.

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