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I just happened to relogin to this account and saw your comment, and wanted to pass along this video I ran across in the meantime from Japan where she says it straightforward as I've seen anyone say it: https://vimeo.com/80542212#t=46:29 Are you using the existing population to it's fullest potential? For instance, half the population is women. Are Japanese women being fully utilized and maximized in terms of contributing to the Japanese economy? And I think the answer is right now "no". Roughly…
/r/PurplePillDebate20/08/16 12:39 AM
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It's one of two things - humblebragging, or she has some sort of social anxiety disorder. These are always the same "I can't believe a guy approached me" aka "I'm so hot everywhere I go men are trying to talk to me". "the risk of actually coming across other players is the #1 thing putting me off playing the game" she even uses vaguely sexual terminology. Later she mentions that she has a boyfriend. Then her condescending attitude of "see my boyfriend has no idea why an adult would even play thi…
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/16 12:38 AM
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I mean, if a guy is taking you out on thoughtful dates, expensive dinners and spending tons of time with you, chances are he isn't using you for sex. Actually, there is no question about it: He isn't. If a guy calls you up to "hang out" frequently, never puts in any effort to know you or anything like that, chances are he is just using you. Not rocket science here. Abstaining with a guy will only punish the guy who want to stick around and will only slightly set back the guys who do. Few guys ar…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 07:56 PM
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Dying alone is better than cohabitation in my mind. See there's one big difference, most people do not feel that way about all people. A lot of things that "bother" your brain a lot of other people either it doesn't even register, or it actually makes them feel comfortable. On the original topic, sex is a powerful motivator for most people. If you assume that you have a deep desire for sex, then having a "relationship" even in red pill terms is simply substantially less work than constantly spin…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 06:39 PM
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Thats what the 77c in every dollar bs was about: http://freakonomics.com/podcast/the-true-story-of-the-gender-pay-gap-a-new-freakonomics-radio-podcast/ A last ditch attempt to make feminism look relevant. That's like half the story though. You can phrase it as "how much women earn", but there's another way to phrase to same data. You can assume that a woman's salary is a reflection of how much profit she generates for the company she works for and for the economy. Here's a video talking about Ja…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/16 06:28 PM
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Today's women/feminists use ideas to their welfare, and not the other way around. Thus, when an idea has "exhausted" itself - when you can no longer derive any benefit from it, but will have to give something up, this idea is simply abandoned or just posted as an empty platitude, a lip service. It's the religious sect of the left. They use it like the right uses the bible - insist the idea is infallable, but then pick and choose what they think will work the best for them. Gay is an abomination,…
/r/PurplePillDebate14/11/15 01:52 AM
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I've changed my stance a little, in that I could see how it could mean the other way. But I still think it's primary meaning to most people would be that you're a sex offender. That you were removed from the list because of some sort of technicality, not "this guy doesn't belong on the list".
/r/MensRights21/09/15 11:13 PM
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Sometimes protecting and controlling go hand in hand. And sometimes the desire to protect results in too much control that makes things worse. That is true, but also sometimes "protecting" is just an excuse. I've seen girls probably genuinely protecting their "so drunk she can barely walk" friend from going home with some aggressive guy. But I've also seen similar girls "protecting" their sober or nearly sober girlfriend from talking to and exchanging numbers with a guy. "Amazingly", the moment …
/r/MensRights21/09/15 01:53 AM
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I assume you wouldn't mind then if I told your boss and your parents that you were formerly a registered sex offender. They wouldn't assume that means you attacked someone right?
/r/MensRights21/09/15 01:49 AM
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According to reddit's front page, if you're underage and take naked pictures of yourself, you can be charged with a crime for "child" pornography of yourself: Teen prosecuted as adult for having naked images – of himself – on phone https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/3lodo4/teen_prosecuted_as_adult_for_having_naked_images/
/r/MensRights21/09/15 12:03 AM
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The only way to fully protect the child is to give no way for her to consent, including consent by claiming she lied about her age. At which point you're using "protecting" as a surrogate for "controlling". For example this one from reddit's front page today: Teen prosecuted as adult for having naked images – of himself – on phone https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/3lodo4/teen_prosecuted_as_adult_for_having_naked_images/ "protecting" quickly becomes a word that no longer means protecting, an…
/r/MensRights21/09/15 12:02 AM
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pendantic: overly concerned with minute details or formalisms None of this changes the meaning of the sentence to "someone who's name was removed from the sex offender registry by a judge who found they had not committed a crime that would place them on the registry after all".
/r/MensRights20/09/15 10:22 PM
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That analogy would work if the news station had titled him "former sex offender," but they didn't. They titled him "former registered sex offender," which, to me at least, means "person that was formerly on a sex offender registry." Registered is an adjective, not a noun, so it shouldn't change the meaning. former murder former amazing murderer former disgusting murderer former revengeful murderer Adding an adjective in front of "murderer" doesn't change what the sentence means. There's no diffe…
/r/MensRights20/09/15 09:49 PM
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Right, but those would be the absolute worst crimes they could even try to charge you with, far lower charges than 1st or 2nd degree murder.
/r/MensRights20/09/15 06:20 PM
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Fine I corrected the typo...
/r/MensRights20/09/15 06:18 PM
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If someone was found guilty of murder, then evidence surfaced that proved them innocent, they would not be labelled "former murderer"...
/r/MensRights20/09/15 05:47 PM
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ignorance of the law does not excuse you The question at some point is - you know murder is illegal. You go to a shooting range. You shoot a target. Turns out, someone tied someone up behind the target, you can't see them or know they are there, and you now shot them to death. Can you be convicted of murder if all of the above is proved in court? I am not a lawyer, but I do not think so. Drugs and sex are the only two areas where they suddenly decide that you committed a crime even if you didn't…
/r/MensRights20/09/15 05:46 PM
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Someone downvoted you, but it is. There's only 1 consistent theme in feminism - that women should be working more and more, and dating less and less (to the point where they don't have the option to date at all). You can't just come in and tell women "we want you to give up an enjoyable lifestyle and join corporate america instead". They're not going to go with that. You have to convince them that their previous enjoyable lifestyle is "oppression", and their new lifestyle as a worker is "freedom…
/r/MensRights20/09/15 05:45 PM
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still a prisoner of an otherwise okay act between two human beings because she lied If this is the same case as before, it's less that she lied, and more that the laws and criminal justice system are fucked up. She showed up to court and said that she lied about her age. Her mom showed up to court and said she didn't think the guy was bad and she's sure her daughter lied and the guy should not be punished. The law labelled him a sex offender anyways. That's rediculous. The law is supposed to be …
/r/MensRights20/09/15 05:15 PM
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Even if her story was true, her response was way out of hand. It was cruel and unusual. She could have just as easily stabbed his chest and escaped. She attacked him and reveled in the pain. Man, there's always someone in the mra forum who actually fulfills the feminist criticism of the forum isn't there? You're just sick man, sick.
/r/MensRights06/08/14 04:28 AM
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That's why I wrote "Assuming her side of the story is accurate". While it's true that one would wonder how the situation got to the point where she had the opportunity to do what she did, I don't think your explanation is reasonable either as there's a whole list of reasons why should would cut off his penis: - She wanted to make sure he wouldn't do it to anyone else - She didn't attack him until he made it absolutely clear he was going to rape her, and that was the closest and most vulnerable a…
/r/MensRights06/08/14 01:35 AM
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I think (though I'm not sure) the standard is "threat of death or serious bodily injury". The defendant in the Trayvon Martin case was found not guilty.
/r/MensRights06/08/14 01:23 AM
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I don't think the media would chastize a dwarf man who a regular sized ugly woman was trying to force to have sex with her for stabbing her in the crotch. It doesn't matter though. If someone was trying to kill me, and I shot them and hit them in the crotch that is hardly my problem - they deserve it for trying to kill me. If a guy is actually trying to rape a girl, and she cuts off his dick, his eyeball, his hand - I don't care what it is, that's what you get for trying to physically harm someo…
/r/MensRights05/08/14 09:51 PM
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I can't tell from the article whether she's really saying they should have this "because women" or more like "more women would be interested in this, but there's nothing against men using it either". Just as the campaign to sort out Britain's notoriously patchy provision of cycle lanes gathers pace, one prominent politician is calling for secondary paths to cater to women who prefer to "pootle". Meg Hillier, a former Home Office minister and vice-chair of the all parliamentary cycling group, say…
/r/MensRights05/08/14 09:18 PM
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Uh...I'm going to go ahead and say that most people including mra's are frankly 100% fine with this. A woman cuts off her husbands penis because she's mad? Because he sleeps with someone else? Yeah, that's a problem.. A woman cuts off a guys penis who is actively try to rape her? That's called "self defense". Assuming her side of the story is accurate, I applaud her just as I would a man who shot someone who was trying to kill him in self defense.
/r/MensRights05/08/14 09:03 PM
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You say "exactly", but then were obviously invested in a victim competition with "So who is the real victim here?". The boy is a victim - the girl may be an even bigger victim, or she might just be a jerk, there's not enough info to say confidently either way. In college I knew a lot of girls who said they had started having sex at 14 (cue obligatory blame it on the evil man talk I imagine) with their boyfriend. On the other hand it's certainly possible it's incest or something like that as well…
/r/MensRights05/08/14 08:55 PM
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Well, I don't have anything more to add. I find that generalizations can be over or under done, but they're useful and very helpful in figuring things out whatever the topic. Good luck.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 11:30 PM
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Actually I think I misread your post, I thought you were saying you never have sex, but either I misread it or you edited it. she's a feminist in college, sex is great, we have a blast spending time together even if we don't have sex It was amusing to say you have a great girlfriend but never have sex, but it looks like I just misread it. On this I agree with you: However it's pretty arrogant to assume that TRP is the only objective truth and anyone ignoring it is a sucker.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 11:22 PM
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Yeah, I see no interesting outcome to continuing this back and forth for either of us. You will continue insisting that you should treat a woman like she's your ruler who's every subtle thought or action must be endless analyzed, and I'm going to continue to say that not only not normal, but that women actively seek out men to sleep with who do not treat them like that, and pretty much won't sleep with men who do.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 11:20 PM
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Hmm. Interesting idea. My off the cuff feeling, though, is to wonder if the active version is really what I would call "dread" game. It sounds more like a combination of "demonstrating value" and...something else that isn't dread game. I might categorize 2 different kinds of dread game in a different way - the "passive" kind you mention where it's just demonstrating that other people find you valuable, and then the more "creating dread" by, say, not returning texts, showing up late, acting like …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 10:33 PM
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I wrote my as a generalization, and I cannot specifically speak to your situation as I do not know you in all detail. My point is, odds are good your requirements may be impossibly contradictory, like my wanting a girl with no drama but finding that a girl with no drama also had no chemistry. I totally agree with you that I cannot say 100% for sure over the internet. Generalizations have been a part of human language and ideas for...forever. I don't know how long, a really long time. Obviously t…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 10:09 PM
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And now your back to claiming that half heartedly turning down a previous offer is the same as turning down a second one. We're back to your originally turning down the cupcake meaning "when I was offered it the second time and I didn't turn it down again it was forced upon me!".
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 10:06 PM
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Thanks for posting this. It would be nice to have a better balanced and realistic discussion, though I hardly see that happening. Seems like people are only motivated to join 2 warring extremes.
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 08:12 PM
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I am curious about it. Just observationally, I don't see very much empathy amongst red pillers (as a whole). Maybe I am wrong, but it's just something I noticed. Note: More or less empathy isn't necessarily a good or bad thing, being too empathetic is just as bad as not being empathetic at all. 1. Read feminists articles for a while. You'll notice how much empathy there is. Then sit back, and reread and ask yourself how much empathy there is for straight men. It's next to 0. It kinda seems like …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 08:04 PM
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we have a blast spending time together even if we don't have sex Lol...
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 07:31 PM
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Well, the theory is that for women, other women finding him attractive is what makes you feel more attracted to him. So according to the theory, what you're looking for is impossible, you'd be asking for a sexy guy who's not sexy. As a guy I used to think I wanted a girl with no drama - this is a common guy-wish thinking. Hot, but no drama. I found one, actually. Totally emotionally stable, visually attractive, no drama at all. The sex was the most boring sex I've ever had in my entire life. The…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 06:47 PM
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Yeah, I've seen plenty of examples of dread game being overdone, and you know what happens? The girl doesn't swoom into his arms - she drops him. "dread game" is another term for "pointing out that I'm valuable enough to have other options". It's just like at my job. I won't get raises and respect if they think I cannot get another job. But I get better raises and more respect if they know that I'm good enough I can easily find other work and another job at the drop of a hat. On the other hand, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 06:43 PM
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Defined "approached" more clearly. Do you mean "talked to me"? Then it would never feel negative. Girls talk to me first all the time. Do you mean hit on me? Well, it would depend on how I feel. It's definitely less work if a girl approaches me and actively hits on me. I've never been turned off by it. But at the same time, unfortunately, nearly all girls who approach me and actively hit on me are either crazy-after-you-get-to-know-them, or they're not "actually" hitting on me. The girls who poi…
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 06:35 PM
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You might think that if you've never had sex before, watch porn, or watched female-orient romantic movies. With food, you're expected to hand it to someone and they put it in their mouth themselves. With sex, taking your junk out and waiting for her to do something with it is as odd and unusual as putting a cupcake into someone's mouth would be. The expectation is that if you take it out, you do your thing with it unless you're vetoed by the girl. That's the standard nearly everywhere you look, …
/r/PurplePillDebate04/08/14 06:28 PM
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Hmm. Maybe my phrasing could have been better. I was going for saying that the ice cream guy might have kids or he might not, but it's not his focus just because we works with children. But that didn't come across quite right in the post...
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 07:43 PM
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I'd suggest you try having sex that isn't analogous to trying to physically hurt someone. That's where I'd start. You come over to someone's cupcake party. They say "here, have a cupcake". You say no. They say okay. A little while later they hand you a cupcake. You didn't bother to ask me to stop, because, oh wait, you already did, and now they're handing you a cupcake anyways. Then you ate the cupcake. Later on, you claim they force fed you the cupcake.
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 07:33 PM
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Yeah, I have no problem with "digital penetration" being referred to as rape. I'm not sure if I'd personally define it as rape or just sexual assault, but I don't think there's anything wrong with the former decision. It's not "referred to", it's defined in criminal law as "rape". The way I interpret her sentence, quite literally, is: Yeah. That's exactly what I mean feminism does. It takes the story I wrote, and fictionalizes it as the story you wrote. I was kinda appalled when TRP posted a sto…
/r/PurplePillDebate31/07/14 07:11 PM
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I agree with you that feminism and trp are often gendered sides of the same way of thinking. One of the few valid critisms I've heard of trp is that it's basically the male version of feminism. While not 100% true, certainly recently purging the group of anyone who doesn't conform to the bitter vibe suggests it's an accurate enough statement.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 05:53 PM
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I agree they have more responsibility and risks. If men and women were treated more equally, wouldn't that help solve this problem? I agree with you. But I went to school in the 80's and 90's. Back then I felt like feminists were one sided, but did care about equality. While they annoyingly villified men for approaching, they did actually encourage women to approach guys themselves, to be friendly if they were approached and interested in talking, etc etc. You could actually talk about sex with …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 05:36 PM
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I'm not the other poster, but I've been hit by a woman in a "I'm acting like it's playful but it's way to hard to be playful" sort of way where it definitely felt like she got an emotional thrill out of it. A friend of mine and I went to a bar on halloween, around 1am some chick he had never talked to walked up to him and ripped his mask off his face. He was like trying to figure out what was happening, then we noticed she had some bodybuilder guy with her - she was trying to give this guy an ex…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 06:25 AM
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No, not at all. How LMR is defined varies quite a bit. There's a huge gap between the one end of the spectrum where it's almost sociopathically claiming they don't want to have sex when they do, to the other end of the spectrum where she just wants a second to think or something like that. In my experience, the more a girl has trouble being happy in a relationship, the more LMR there is. Dunno, that's just what I've seen.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 06:17 AM
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It's not possible for someone subscribed to trp to downvote in this forum...
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 06:07 AM
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I always think when people diss enthusiastic consent - what kind of dreadful, numb sex are you guys having? "consent" is a word used in a sentence to mean something you grudgingly agreed to. "I consented to let the cops search my car". It is not a word that's actually used with enthusiasm - no one "consented" to go on an amazing vacation, or "consented" win a million dollars in the lottery! It's also to differentiate from what I genuinely think is one of the worst parts of the red pill: overcomi…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 06:05 AM
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The problem with feminism is that it's bastardized and almost ruined by a very vocal extremist minority. I was going to disagree with you, but then I got to this last line and you sounded accurate. The problem is, the core of current feminist theory and the most public face of feminism is run by those people. If a feminist said "I think enthuiastic consent is bullshit", I'd perk up and definitely would think maybe they were actually different. I know a lot of genuinely well meaning feminists, pr…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 06:00 AM
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Yeah, me to. Here "potential relationship" score definitely drops when I hear here say stuff like that, and it's a bit of a sexual turnoff to to be like "I'M LYING TO YOU! YAH!"...that's how I feel when they do that.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 05:53 AM
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P.S. The creepiest thing I've heard so far is "thank you for not raping me" from a very different girl who - I want to be totally clear here - spent the entire evening pursuing me, asking for a ride home (texting me when I was in my car outside having fallen asleep), started taking her clothes off on the ride home, and whom I had not been sexually aggressive towards in any way whatsoever. That was like her way of saying "You should be having sex with me". Utterly bizarre, I didn't think stuff li…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 05:52 AM
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Yeah, as a previous regular commenter who got banned in this latest snafu, TRP has definitely gone off the deep end with that one particular moderator. I've started to wonder myself. In the last year of posting, I had never seen crap like that before.
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 05:47 AM
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So, I turn it over to you: in your opinion or experience, does "no" at times mean "yes?" Similarly, is "last-minute resistance" a common thing that you've encountered? If you have encountered it, how did you determine that "no meant yes" in that instance? A friend of mine was a player for a while, then got a girlfriend by assuming "no" meant "not right now but try again later" - repeatedly. A lot. Seriously. I found the same thing with a girl I visited. Long story short, I walked her out to her …
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 05:40 AM
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Etymology and obscure use... Which is in response to feminism trying to redefine the word to mean things it never meant - ever. Feminism tried to expand the word to mean things it's absurd to apply to, so men end up doing the same. Really? I mean, I've seen that once or twice, but mostly I hear a distinction between "rape" and "sexual assault." From feminists, too. I hear about "rape culture," but that's not rape. Really? You didn't read the specific examples I posted above? Can you link me to a…
/r/PurplePillDebate30/07/14 03:18 AM
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From wikipedia - Etymology of term The term rape originates in the Latin rapere, from raptus, "to snatch, to grab, to carry off".[23][24] Since the 14th century, the term has come to mean "to seize and take away by force".[1] In Roman law the carrying off of a woman by force, with or without intercourse, constituted "raptus".[24] In Medieval English law the same term could refer to either kidnapping or rape in the modern sense of "sexual violation".[23] The original meaning of "carry off by forc…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 11:41 PM
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I think that TRP is simply as bad at trying to figure out what a successful long term relationship involves, just as feminism is bad at knowing what women find attractive. TRP is basically the male version of feminism (as one can see from the recent you-agree-with-bitterness-or-you're-out purge). TRP comes from and focuses on how to spin plates - aka be sleeping with multiple people at the same time. There is some overlap between that and a long term relationship in terms of attractiveness, beha…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 09:14 PM
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Of course I'm not accepting Tumblr accounts as an example of systemic manipulation of the men as a whole by the force of feminism. I'd be mad to do so! Tumblr accounts are anonymous, free and can be made by anyone - imposters, enemies, fakes, robots... That's why I have specifically asked for published sources and there have been plenty of people in this thread willing to do so. If Tumblr is the be-all and end-all of feminism, why do so many people complain about its influence? I refuse to belie…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 09:01 PM
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But men overall do have more power in history and in modern society. They have more power, but also more responsibility and risks - aka getting shot in warfare, ending up homeless, etc etc, whereas women are protected and their lives considered more valuable (but less directly powerful). I guess it wouldn't make a very motivating tagline for feminism to actually say that would it? lol..."women! come join our cause and be like men - get murdered at 3 times the rate you do now! be 7-8 times more l…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 08:39 PM
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I didn't think so before, but with the recent "here's a thread that declares that woman cannot change, in contradiction to the sidebar, I declare that anyone who can't hamster their way into believing that 2 contradictory statements are true at the same time shall be banned" that seems exactly like a cult. Lots of groups exclude member that do not agree with them. But saying that your group is about seeing the truth, but putting on something that contradicts the principles of your own group, and…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 08:34 PM
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Yeah, what makes rape rape? - It's emotionally traumatic - It's risky - It's something that's psychologically scarring and it's possible you'll never recover from it - Someone violated you and took advantage of you That's definitely how I would define a some women after they get married and some divorces. To be fair, this probably applies to some men as the divorces they initiate as well.
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 08:21 PM
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Having a father who went through a divorce, and a close female friend who was raped in college and I helped emotionally nurse back to health, frankly, it seems about the same. My father - who was a nice guy who's only mistake was either marrying my mother or not realizing that their marriage would fall apart if they had to go through tough financial times - was dragged through the mud by my mother. She convinced everyone in our city that my father was some sort of horrible person (which he was n…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 08:14 PM
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Lol, this thread question is like when people say "show me a peer reviewed study or your opinion doesn't count". How would anyone who's not a feminist know if it's one person or one group of people who have taken over feminism? These kind of people don't write books, publish papers, etc usually. How is it that multiple different girls I know (who aren't part of the same real life social circles) all started claiming that specifying the genders of Elliot Rodgers victims (5 men, 2 women) was "dera…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 09:30 AM
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It's a mixed bag. TRP philosophy helped me a lot at my job, where my boss was getting pressured and trying to pass the blame onto me, and instead I called him on his bull. I'm still working there, fyi, he transferred to another department (not sure if this transfer was arranged before I stood up to him in a meeting with me, him, and his boss). TRP has meant that I now actually realize that women are flirting with me and interested in me. Before I was oblivious, I mean really - who would have tho…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 09:05 AM
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I'm not sure if I posted to TRP after that. There doesn't seem to be an easy way to search for posts rather than replies, so I can't tell if there was some other post that it was more about. That's the one that showed up as the most obvious that had a reply. Saying one thing, then finding a way to interpret it in the exact opposite way is what hamstering is all about. Trying to convince someone else to do the same thing is the exact opposite of why I was interested in TRP. That's what religions …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 08:38 AM
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(Thread titled "Women are Incapable of Change") PaulRivers: The premise of this thread is completely absurd. Women change far more than men. Watch a girl get into a relationship, wait for it to get "serious" and watch half her personality change. Suddenly - she likes sports! She likes geeky things! With her last boyfriend, who didn't like either, she hated them! And it's not just cover - she really emotionally gets pulled into them. Want a man to change? Convince him that there's an amazing rewa…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 08:06 AM
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I'm PaulRivers. EDIT 4: Confusion clearing up somewhat. Apparently this is his (PaulRiver) criteria for banning. I'll quote the phrase because it's interesting in a very TRP way - Krackor - Basically if you post with obvious intent to cultivate understanding (whether your own, or another reader's), it should be easy to stay on the right side of the OP's litmus test. As soon as you start straying towards trying to win an argument (nitpicking details) or champion a cause (cry "misogyny" or somethi…
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 08:03 AM
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That's a pretty narrative to sell but if you get down from your soapbox and actually read the debate; the question is how they choose to disagree. If you go in that thread, in another reply, RPS gave plenty of examples of whole threads of disagreement which were allowed. What he(and all RPers really) have problem with specifically is the people who do shit like NAWALT, and complain about the tone rather than address the points. Lol, that is also a pretty narrative. But to quote the mod - I have …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 07:19 AM
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Feminism was never about equality. It was, in it's most pure form, a movement about equal rights. ... while at the same time ignoring that women had less responsibilities and less disposablity. While I find feminism today to be completely about increasing female power at the expense of men, I'm not sure it started that way, but I'm not sure it actually started about actual equality either. Think about it for a second - women got to stay at home, raise the kids, got a lot of societal respect for …
/r/PurplePillDebate29/07/14 06:59 AM
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Feminists using "Not all men are like that" is a brilliant 2 level manipulation. By arguing with them, you reinforce their frame - the frame that most men are like that. "Not all killers released from prison kill someone else" - that wording makes you automatically assume that most do, doesn't it?
/r/MensRights28/07/14 09:49 PM
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The thing that feminists have to ask themselves is "Where do these warped ideas about feminism come from?" Until they recognize the hate in their own membership they will continue to be confronted by people who reject them. Yeah, it seems to be a system where all the nice caring women who join feminism automatically repeat back whatever the sociopath running things tells them. They just add a layer of feel good on top of it. I'm starting to get the feeling that all social movements either start …
/r/MensRights27/07/14 04:31 AM
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Which on a manipulative level, is sorta the point isn't it? If children grow up where men fear them and don't spend time around them, it's easier for them to accept that men are bad and guilty of something as a group.
/r/MensRights27/07/14 04:04 AM
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That doesn't make sense.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/07/14 02:44 AM
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And yet you're offended at a logical description of how feminism created it's story on a specific topic. Good luck with that.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 11:52 PM
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Lol. If you want to see men behave like feminism does, just look at politics.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 11:52 PM
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That's not how TRP likes to view itself. That's kinda how MRA's like to view themselves - a male version of what feminism claimed to be doing with equality. That's more an insult to TRP.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 11:49 PM
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Well that's not all he said, it's the idea that Women would not be negatively traumatized if 'Raped' by a HIGH value Man. That doesn't change the meaning. Sure, the rapists in the news paper that abuse women physically and mentally and intentionally scar them for life can burn in hell, but he is saying :be that super hot guy and women will love every second they are used for their pleasure. That's reinterpreting what he said, it's not what he wrote. It's just like AWALT, take it with a grain of …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 11:48 PM
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Ok...I'm honestly not sure if you edited your post, or if something on my end got messed up. When I wrote that I was thinking of something pretty insulting, but when I reread it what you wrote is not what I was thinking of. Anyways, let's move on. I don't have any idea why you reduce feminism to the worst feminists there are, but I assure you, there are sane people making coherent points who call what they do "feminism." There are a few. However, in real life, I know some very nice, caring, love…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 11:24 PM
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This is the relevant sub. Take your own strawman campaign when you can't talk about what feminism actually does to a relevant sub. This isn't r/feminism, where getting angry at logically describing the actual things feminism is doing isn't allowed.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 09:22 PM
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Ha, thanks, not sure rubbing in the mods faces that I was the same user would be the way to go though. :-) I'm not sure if I want to keep contributing to TRP or not though. I'm cool with being part of a community that doesn't care about offending feminists over-definition of rape, and of telling the reality that women will push you away when they want you to keep pursuing them. I'm fine with that because I've seen it several times now, and frankly, everyone I've known in the last 5 years who got…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 09:19 PM
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For similar reasons that "men like big boobs" is different than "women don't like aggressive men". The first is a generalization that does not apply to all men, but applies to a lot of them. Realizing that generalizations don't apply to everything is being smarter. It's also used as a social manipulation tool, but since it's used so often you end up weaker by not using it yourself. The second is just bad advice. There is a lot of nuance to how aggressive women like men, in what situations, etc. …
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 09:00 PM
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Thanks. I appreciate your comment. I don't think there's any way to actually appeal a ban, is there though? I did a quick search and reddit basically says "you can email the mods, but you probably won't hear back".
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 07:50 PM
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Thanks for mentioning that. It's a pretty bare bones sub that doesn't have a lot of posts though isn't it? Still, I'll check it out, thanks.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 07:40 PM
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See my other post in response to shitpostwhisperer. That's feminism for you though, attack and insult people who make valid points that don't agree with your rhetoric. That's why I'm not interesting in being part of RedPillSchool's TRP though - I have no interest in being part of a male group doing the same bullshit as feminism does.
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 07:39 PM
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Feminism always just tries to use tactics to avoid discussing it's manipulative behavior while continuing to do it. Feminism does what it usually does with Elliot Rodger - emphasizes men who are villains, remove men who are victims or neutral in the story because in feminism mens lives don't matter, and emphasize women who are victims. Here's a wikipedia entry where a feminist (I assume) is arguing the same thing I saw feminists saying in blog posts on my facebook feed - http://i.imgur.com/xJEGD…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 07:37 PM
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It's not...quite that clear. He (the homeowner) returned home shortly after 9 p.m. Tuesday to find the pair in his home. Both suspects attacked him, hitting him with their fists and ultimately "body slamming" him to the floor, breaking his collar bone, McDonnell said. Miller continued to hit him, McDonnell said, while Adams moved to a safe and began trying to pry it open. The homeowner was able to get to another room where he grabbed a gun and returned to open fire on the suspects. They fled thr…
/r/MensRights26/07/14 12:37 AM
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As a regular reader of TRP over the last year, I've grown more and more annoyed at how clearly feminism manipulates their stories to create a fake reality. "The Patriarchy" is the best example - "mysteriously", all of the men who weren't villains aren't in the story! What. A. Coincidence. Elliot Rodgers - a man kills 5 men and 2 women, let's try to keep anyone from realizing men were killed. I was drawn to TRP because it was more straight up. And while it's ideas where outlandish - I watched gir…
/r/PurplePillDebate26/07/14 12:13 AM
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Yeah, being in the military basically...is facism or a cult. They have reasons for doing it that way, but referring to how the military runs is kinda saying "yes, we're doing this like facists". I mean the military trains it's soldiers to run into obviously getting themselves killed from a single order from their commander.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 10:44 PM
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That's why people are irritated. TheRedPill is about straight talk, the new mod position is to say one thing but mean another.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 10:28 PM
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A good portion of the people arguing and being generally dicks are names I've never seen before. They're likely either newcomers who don't know better, or people who disagree with TRP and are there just to detract. (SJW) Or more likely, people didn't want to get banned for disagreeing using their primary username, so they used an alt account. Hmm, wish I had done that.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 10:24 PM
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Lol, that is exactly what it is.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 10:23 PM
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There were 2 sides - agree with RedPillSchool, or get banned.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 10:22 PM
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I got banned today for disagreeing by arguing against the facts (or at least that was the last post I left on TRP), so the fact that there are quite a few posters openly disagreeing with RedPillSchool suggests there's an even larger # who disagree but just don't want to go through the annoyance of having their account about banned by a temperamental mod. It's my off-the-cuff opinion that probably around 50% of the TRP crowd disagrees. Probably 25% agree, and another 25% just don't care. That wou…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 10:21 PM
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I'll also confirm to the best of my knowledge, although there is plenty of disagreement, the deleted comments are not among them save one. And also a live demonstration of the process by which users get banned. So far, we have a grand total of one ban. I got banned for disagreeing. That's what's actually happening. It doesn't seem to show up on the site or the page, the user who disagrees just cannot post any more. It seems there's a lot of what "ban anyone who disagrees" going on.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 10:16 PM
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Yeah...sigh, I know. I've spent a year reading the sub, and it's helped in both my job and dating. It's sad to see it devolve into being a...(words I probably can't post on reddit). I got banned for disagreeing with them, after a year of posting on the sub. If I wanted to continue posting there it's just a matter of creating a new account, but that's the still the attitude. Notice that despite them banning people who disagree with them, right now the thread is at 61% agree - on a forum filled wi…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 09:23 PM
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That's your claim not mine, and your attempt to try to reframe into making a person attack, not mine either. Writing a title of "Women like Alpha's" and someone claiming "Oh, so every single woman in the world likes Alpha's with no exceptions huh?" is trying to misinterpret. Writing a title of "Women are Incapable of Change" and then hiding behind "you think I'm saying women aren't capable of change?" is something else completely.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 09:07 PM
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People who are arguing over tone or being pedantic look like they aren't trying to understand the point, no matter how obfuscated it may be, but are rather interested in interpreting it in the worst possible way and then arguing about it because of how it looks. There's a big difference between someone trying to find a way to interpret straight talk in the worst possible way, vs someone deliberately saying contradictory things then insisting that people work to try to find a way to interpret the…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 07:40 PM
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Men in general are drawn to TRP because they're tired of the inaccurate bullshit when it comes to sex and dating that comes from feminism and mainstream dating advice. But what the mod did is try to insist that they accept his own bullshit on sex and dating. He asserted that women "can't change" - when most men's experience is that women change constantly. He's done exactly the kind of behavior that men hated that caused them to come to TRP in the first place. He doesn't like others tone, so he …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 07:37 PM
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So you're basically suggesting men become like women and argue insansity based on however they're feeling right now. Great.
/r/TheRedPill25/07/14 07:04 PM
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Seriously. Concern trolling is saying "I'm afraid how TRP will look when we talk about women liking dominance, because someone might think that means rape!". It's called "reality" when someone thinks TRP is about rape because some asshole writes articles titled "Women want to be raped". Now you're just feminist hamstering "Oh, I didn't 'really' mean rape when I wrote 'rape', I meant something else!".
/r/TheRedPill25/07/14 06:53 PM
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It's pretty hilarious how Skratt's post (I assume Skratt is a woman) is the perfect example of how yes, what the OP wrote is correct. I mean it's spot on and accurate - I don't know about y'all but I don't like when people ask me why I'm mad, sad, etc...it's just annoying, you can ask WHAT'S WRONG, or ARE YOU OKAY, but not WHY ARE YOU UPSET. It's too...bold or somethin'.
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 06:17 PM
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Which is kind of similar to TRP. "oh no you really misunderstood what TRP is, it's about self-improvement" You could have a front page TRP post that's been 10 times gilded by an endorsed contributor and 2000 upvotes saying nothing but "men are inherently superior to women" and that would still be the response. Lol, I think one of the valid criticisms of TRP is that it's kinda the male version of feminism. I mean sometimes I disagree because "hating" women is described as "talking about how they …
/r/PurplePillDebate25/07/14 06:09 PM
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It does when your assertion is "Women are Incapable of Change". One fundamental game concept is that the more a woman likes you, the more she changes to meet your needs/expectations. I used to treat women like feminism told me I should - they shouldn't have to change, they can't change they are their own person and individual and bla bla bla. Things didn't go well. When I got fed up and decided I was going to get laid (like 15 years ago, before TRP or Game being mainstream) the more a girl chang…
/r/TheRedPill25/07/14 04:21 PM
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Yeah, eventually all forum groups fall back into hamsterizing, shaming tactics and grandstanding. The leader said something - don't think for yourself! It's disappointing - had hoped The Red Pill would be the one place there was less of this herd mentality on everything with no critical thinking of your own. Guess not. You still didn't provide any quote, new argument, etc - if you spent time around actual women you'll find they're usually always changing. That's exactly what's annoying about the…
/r/TheRedPill25/07/14 04:16 PM
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Feel free to quote any part of that article that actually backs up the idea that it's only a change in opinion, rather than a change in everything they do.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/14 11:31 PM
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Except redpillschool is hamstering to say the exact opposite of that. He's saying that tone is the #1 priority, the facts behind that don't matter as much as it does that things have the right tone. He wrote a whole bunch about how you need to read the sidebar above. I have read the sidebar. Here's from the sidebar article titled "Red Pill Antibiotic Nuke, Come and Feed" - Women are irrational and inconsistent, they have a capacity for logic but it is not their modus operandi, that is to say tha…
/r/TheRedPill24/07/14 10:44 PM
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Oh look, it's even in a side bar article that women change more than men. Red Pill Antibiotic Nuke, Come and Feed Women are irrational and inconsistent, they have a capacity for logic but it is not their modus operandi, that is to say that they must exert effort to be logical as it is not their factory setting. A logical woman is easily baited into becoming emotional; women are easy to compromise. Their decisions are based on their current emotional state rather than the abstraction of logic. It…
/r/TheRedPill24/07/14 08:39 PM
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Lol, amusing, but I think it's more like "I'd like to pretend it's my first time, like I've pretended 17 times before". Occasionally it's actually her first time, obviously everyone has a first time. I gotta tell ya - unless you're relatively young and she's really into you, the sex is crappy. I've slept with 3 virgins who bled, etc, on their first time, and it was trying to get a ride with someone who this was their first time actually driving a car.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/14 08:37 PM
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Yes, they do. Men tend to want to be nice to women. Today's women - even moreso than before - see nice as weakness. They aren't totally wrong - politics and society has changed, and I've noticed that nowadays people who are "nice" at my job are often covering for being incompetent. When people say they "don't use game", usually they mean they already do game by default. The fact that you're only into bdsm and you chose a username of "evilfuckingsociopath" definitely supports this assumption. You…
/r/PurplePillDebate24/07/14 08:22 PM
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Cool, I think what you're saying is exactly what I'm saying.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/14 04:48 PM
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Thanks for posting this. It sounds almost exactly like I've learned to expect watching women - whatever they say regarding sex and dating, always add "for now" onto the end of it. "I would never do an arranged marriage!" for now. "I would never sleep with a man on the first date!" for now. "I would never be friends-with-benefits" for now.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/14 12:24 AM
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My post has nothing to do with concrete vs abstract thinking. It is all about motivation. A friend of mine didn't have a car for a while. He could afford it, he had a license and knew how to drive, he didn't buy a car. Then he had the chance to go on a date. Suddenly - he bought a car. The problem is not whether she's capable, it's about what motivates her - what makes her feel like she wants to do it.
/r/TheRedPill24/07/14 12:15 AM
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Let's take a second and consider this situation from a different perspective here. You are a man who's rich, and you own a mercedes. Out of nowhere, a girl comes up to you at a bank and tries to convince you to drive her "home", which is a location that she chooses. If you say it's not your car, she completely loses interest and leaves. What do you think your first assumption is? a. This girl wants to hook up with me b. This girl is part of a group that's trying to rob me and steal my car c. Thi…
/r/TheRedPill23/07/14 11:28 PM
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The premise of this thread is completely absurd. Women change far more than men. Watch a girl get into a relationship, wait for it to get "serious" and watch half her personality change. Suddenly - she likes sports! She likes geeky things! With her last boyfriend, who didn't like either, she hated them! And it's not just cover - she really emotionally gets pulled into them. Want a man to change? Convince him that there's an amazing reward for changing. This is why so many men became beta - the b…
/r/TheRedPill23/07/14 10:55 PM
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Why is this stickied with a less than 70% approval rating in the RP community. It's 64% now.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/14 10:20 PM
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I think some of your examples follow my observations that girls are and prefer to be follows rather than leads. In #1, she's motivated by a 3rd party factor - there's a wedding and she needs to look good. Everyone else is slimming down, so she should to. In #2, she wasn't motivated to really follow it until you were proving to lead the choices. Oooooh, the lead says those are bad choices! Time to learn from the lead. In #3, you again described how to do something, but there was no example to fol…
/r/TheRedPill23/07/14 10:12 PM
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Feminists - like a lot of groups (I've noticed lately) - tends to be the first to accuse other groups of what they themselves are doing. You're totally correct that it's meant to derail, but more importantly it's meant to derail at exactly the right point. Feminism has created the Oppression Olympics - "The Patriarchy" "Rape Culture - Women Everywhere Are Constantly Oppressed By Culture Everywhere!" etc. The derailing only comes along when you start the punch holes in their claim to be winning t…
/r/MensRights23/07/14 08:02 PM
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TRP says the world is unfair to men, and so the individual man needs to change. MRA just complains, and feels self pity in inaction. The problem is, women making up more than half of the voters. Feminists agree with you - the man needs to change. He needs to change to psychically know how the woman is going to feel about sex the next day, week etc, or he's a rapist and should go to jail. He needs to change to magically keep her romantically and sexually interested while never ever hurting her fe…
/r/TheRedPill23/07/14 07:22 PM
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The fools over at men's rights look at what feminists have done and believe they can achieve similar results That's only true in their "playing the victim role". Feminism didn't come up with it's tactics on it's own. Want to see the process of feminism? Read Animal Farm - a book based on the rise of Communism in the Soviet Union. The manipulation done by feminists is the same as the manipulation done by political parties. Feminists "we're looking out for both men and women and we're about equali…
/r/TheRedPill23/07/14 07:13 PM
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I agree as well. TRP is about what you can do as an individual to improve your life. But that doesn't matter when the legal system is slowly changed to trap you. And that's what Men's Rights is better and more about.
/r/TheRedPill23/07/14 06:54 PM
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I swear to god, the most bizarre experience I've ever had is watching a girl who claimed and seemed to have not read about Game spit about a long series of everything Game talks about to me again and again. It was so exacting I'm still not 100% certain she didn't read online stuff and was now repeating it. She was doing this while taking off her clothes in my car, so it's not like she was just talking. I don't think TRP philosophy is 100% reality - it has gaps in it - but I didn't think girls di…
/r/TheRedPill23/07/14 06:28 PM
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A LOT of crazy behavior that women do has started to make sense to me when put in one of two terms: 1. She's the follow and you're the lead 2. "How would you handle a kid flipping out on you like this" Like...a lot. :-)
/r/TheRedPill23/07/14 01:45 AM
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Ok, but do you realize that you're missing the point here? In my case I am 100% certain that by "thank you for not raping me" she meant "I'm disappointed you weren't have sex with me" and by "you could get away with it" she's saying "I think you're attractive enough to have sex with". How women really think is bizarre. She doesn't view it as blatant danger, because she doesn't see you as to low value to have sex with. From the sounds of it she's probably not the kind of girl you wanted to sleep …
/r/MensRights23/07/14 01:44 AM
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Circumcision is a bit of a problem, though. It's a barbaric practice that removes a functioning part of the penis that provides both functional use during sexual acts as well as an enormous amount of pleasure for a man. Coming into this world and then having it hacked right off is is insane. The only reason we don't think so is because it has been 'normalized' through it's exceedingly high prevalence in the US, thus initiating not only inertia but ego protection of the circumsized. And clearly I…
/r/TheRedPill23/07/14 01:32 AM
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My answer is kind of vague, but what I can I say. Do something non-sexual that requires dominance. What worked for me was that at my job everyone around me got more and more submissive, to the point where everything was starting to fail. I took leadership, and constantly watched the results - and emotionally after a while I started to realize that making someone happy at the expense of results got very very bad results. Start watching around you how many times people will make you happy in order…
/r/askTRP23/07/14 01:25 AM
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I seriously wonder about this. A girl I was dating, we were making out, she rolls over takes her shorts off and says "Let's have sex". But she goes complete dead tuna on me - I mean seriously, her tone was like "Fine, fine, let's just do it and get it over with" even though I had not been pressuring her at all. Her body language said anti-sexy as much as you possibly could through body language. I rolled over and went to sleep. Naturally, she broke up with me the next day. I kinda wonder if I sh…
/r/askTRP23/07/14 01:18 AM
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The down votes are probably because the way you phrased your question looks like concern trolling. Yeah, it's the "push away people" part. Trying to mix what you think does and doesn't make sense with "what makes people feel bad". TRP is about seeing the truth without caring how people feel about it. Worrying "we don't like to talk about this truth because it offends someone's feelings" is concern trolling, and the anti-thesis of trp.
/r/askTRP23/07/14 01:06 AM
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"Yeah we can meet up maybe" - Means no. Abort. Forget about her. Lol, I have way more fun being like "cool", not inviting her, then sending her a pick that looks like a ton of fun afterwards. "Oh hey, I didn't have a chance to text you, it was fun.". Even better if there's a cute girl with me. Shit, you know what's nuts? Sometimes I do this to guys. You know the guys. "Oh hey man, yeah I'd love to, but...I got some other stuff going on...". The guy that seems to want to be pursued like a chick s…
/r/TheRedPill22/07/14 11:37 PM
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Do you remember when someone started telling women that drinking to the point of being passed out increased their chance of rape? The feminists had a shit fit that anyone would tell women that was true, despite it statistically being the #1 correlating factor. Even RAINN says that "rape culture" does not help stop actual rape. They need it to keep happening so they can keep using it for political power. It's sick.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/14 11:24 PM
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I know, seriously. When I was in college, a close female friend of mine was raped. I listened to her story, was appalled, helped her recover, told her I'd go with her to the police for her to report it (she didn't want to though...sigh). I told her I'd have a sketchy friend I knew from home come up and we'd beat the crap out of the guy. She didn't want to for whatever reason. I felt really bad, and it was obvious that she was deeply traumatized by what happened, though she did get over it after …
/r/TheRedPill22/07/14 11:23 PM
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It's pretty hard core - in my personal experience women do this to themselves to. They get into a relationship - everything is fine. Their relationship gets "serious" - they drop many of their previous female and male friends. It's odd. I kinda feel like it's purpose is to make you so bored you're willing to have children because you have nothing else going on with your life any more.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/14 10:59 PM
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At the risk of repeating a previous comment, I kinda wonder if it's a relationship shit test. If you can't handle her absurd displays of emotion, how would you handle having and raising a kid who's going to do the same thing?
/r/TheRedPill22/07/14 10:46 PM
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In a relationship, I think this is part of their shit testing - if you can't handle your girlfriend being absurdly emotional, how will you handle having a child who is going to do the same thing?
/r/TheRedPill22/07/14 10:44 PM
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Yeah, this is insane - "The woman, who can't be identified for legal reasons, told jurors that Mr Taylor..." The woman who was proven to be lying "can't be named", but the man proven innocent has his name everywhere. I mean certainly I'd want my name listed in an article saying "then conclusive proof was shown proving me innocent", but not naming her is just nuts.
/r/MensRights22/07/14 09:37 PM
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Telling people to avoid high risk situations is a shaming tactic now? Yes, feminism has been claiming that for the last...4 years? At least.
/r/MensRights22/07/14 09:32 PM
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Just a couple of weeks ago I had a girl ask me if I was going to a party, go to the party, get herself drunk (I had no part at all in her drinking, didn't drink myself and didn't offer her drinks), then text me asking if I was still around because she needed a ride home because she was drunk. On the way home, she started undressing herself in my car. She mentions she wouldn't mind staying at my place, when we get to her place she invites me in, invites me to sit on her bed, clearly wants me to l…
/r/MensRights22/07/14 09:31 PM
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It's not complicated. In feminism - what a woman wants is good, what a man wants is bad. It's that simple. If you read the advice columns it's the same thing you're saying. If a man complains his girlfriend doesn't want to have enough sex with him, he needs to learn to do something better, or just accept it. He has not right to "expect" sex. If a woman complains her boyfriend doesn't want to enough sex with her, she might consider what she can do, but the idea that it's time to consider a new re…
/r/MensRights22/07/14 09:00 PM
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This kinda changes the topic. The point was that they're deliberately using confusion between normal and common situations that involve drinking and sex/dating and the rarer but genuinely dangerous situations that involve sex/dating. Did you notice how they throw a fit in telling girls that drinking is dangerous, but insist that telling guys that sleeping with a girl who's been drinking? It's not about people's actual safety here. If it was, even if they were being reality-unrealistic, they'd te…
/r/TheRedPill22/07/14 08:39 PM
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still i havent seen any report about a female raping a child and disposing the body in the woods. im not defending them, its just my experience. And I bet you've seen more reports about women being murdered than reports about men, despite that statistically men are 3 times more likely to be murdered than women (in the US). Bias in reporting is not the same thing as the reality one faces as an individual.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/14 08:32 PM
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Not to criticize social circle as your choice of primary outlet, but a man should be able to adapt to all environments and challenges. On the other hand, trying to grow a palm tree in the desert is a stupid endeaver if there's a tropical forest 3 miles over. The lack of social consequence for negative actions means that women at bars can often be bitches. True, but so what. Just man up and accept that there are bitches in the world and don't let your ego get hurt. (TRP) You're the one trying to …
/r/TheRedPill22/07/14 08:30 PM
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First, you're clearly questioning a lot about yourself, so it would be beneficial to take some advice instead of looking for validation and arguing. I made my points for your benefit. That sounds pretty manipulative to me. "Oh, you're uncertain? Well you should just take my advice." What I did was effective - it got me much further than I would have with this girl, and if she's excited about it there's not a worry about whether it's immoral either. When I refer to "should I do this", if you're d…
/r/TheRedPill22/07/14 08:30 PM
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Yea, and I think things like debunking the wage gap myth or debunking claims of "rape culture" are the most effective way to combat this. Although it might be true, arguing "male unemployment is higher than female unemployment" will not earn a shred of political leverage. I prefer the idea of just stopping and in some cases pushing back feminism where it encroaches on our rights as opposed to greeting it with some male version of feminism. I agree. I just think that attacking the excesses of fem…
/r/TheRedPill22/07/14 07:41 PM
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Yeah, a lot of times that's the way the game is played at that level. If learn to reach his level on your own, you can come back and 1 of 2 things will happen: 1. You'll be able to hold your ground without to much effort and it won't be a problem any more 2. He's doing dark triad stuff that you might never want to emulate yourself. You'll still be able to hold your own against him, but it might not be able to be buddy-buddy about it. If you can show yourself an equal, he's more likely to respect…
/r/TheRedPill22/07/14 07:35 PM
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Let me tell you a story - when I was in college, I dated my first college girlfriend. For about 9 months things were fine - not great, but not bad. I broke up with her when for the 2nd time in a week she turned to me and said "why are we dating?". It wasn't really a question - the answer was "we just keep doing the same thing because of momentum". The college I was going to sucked, so I transferred to another college. She...sigh...decided to transfer with me. I neither encouraged nor discouraged…
/r/askTRP22/07/14 07:39 AM
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Is there any way to be married and properly have this mindset? She's got you by the balls and can divorce you and take half of your shit. Seems like the only way to have this is to be protected legally from divorce via prenup and in a country with a favorable legal system/view on alimony/child support. I would love it if we could 'solve' this issue, besides just repeating the standard 'do never marry' shit (which may be fair and good advice, but I doubt most guys on TRP really plan on pursing th…
/r/TheRedPill22/07/14 06:34 AM
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Their favorite line is "imagine if the genders were reversed." Ok, we get it, there are double standards. It might have something to do with the fact that men and women are different. Now shut the fuck up. Yes, but you won't win by fighting them with their own tactics. The pity party works for feminists because they are women. No one gives a shit about a pity seeking man. I don't agree. A lot of their power comes from their appearance that they are thinking and caring about everyone. When they'r…
/r/TheRedPill22/07/14 06:24 AM
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Lol, probably. Some girl claims she's marrying Ted Bundy, despite his current look being horrific and everyone knowing he's a mass killer.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/14 12:21 AM
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Elliot Rogers was quite effeminate and obviously had some mental issues, even if you're super attractive (he was maybe a 7) women will be turned off by effeminate mannerisms and traits and you still have to make the first move. Don't disagree with you. Don't think what you're saying agrees with the post I was saying was the whiny and innacurate post though.
/r/TheRedPill22/07/14 12:19 AM
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Totally agree with you, just seen to many people use "not an asshole" to mean "never an asshole", and that's even more absurd than "always an asshole" (which is also innaccurate).
/r/TheRedPill22/07/14 12:15 AM
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But, I think the crux of the matter is the thinking of "push and push until I give in". That's not the way to do it. You know you're kinda right, I didn't take the time to spell it out more. It's more push / back off / demonstrate value / push / back off demonstrate value / etc. This doesn't get into the complexity that yes, many girls you should just "next" because they aren't interested. Same as if she's thinking, "should I do this" you've done something wrong. Completely wrong. I thought "sho…
/r/TheRedPill22/07/14 12:11 AM
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im not saying all men are child molesters. but the bad one im reading of are always male. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_child_molesters The sexual abuse of children by women, primarily mothers, constituted 25% (approximately 36 000 children) of the sexually abused victims. This statistic is thought to be underestimated due to the tendency of non-disclosure by victims.[8] According to a major 2004 study commissioned by the U.S. Department of Education - In studies that ask students about of…
/r/TheRedPill21/07/14 11:42 PM
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Yeah, but that's the way this kind of manipulation works. You take a story where there are in fact rare cases where something makes sense, and use those to smear all cases. Is it dangerous that a man takes a woman who has been drinking home? Well, it can either be genuinely dangerous, or it can be how like 50% of relationships start.
/r/TheRedPill21/07/14 10:31 PM
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This guy LITERALLY says cockblocking is rape prevention. What in the absolute zero fuck? Because in girl-world rape is a codeword for "any undesirable sex". It's lost most meaningful definition for many women. I recently had a girl invite me to a party, get herself drunk, text me to give her a ride home, start taking off some of her clothes in my car, invite me back to her place (while implying that she was fine sleeping over at my place), then thank me for "not raping her" by having sex with he…
/r/TheRedPill21/07/14 10:22 PM
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It becomes pretty blatant when you flip the genders - e.g. "The question is: what are women doing to be an ally of men at the next party they attend?" The predictable feminist response to that would be: "why the fuck am I trying to go out of my way to be an ally to men? I'm not your servant!" Lol, right. It's funny because the articles themselves often understand what's going on if you read between the lines. a. He starts with a pic of The Great Gasby - a man who served the woman he wanted, only…
/r/TheRedPill21/07/14 10:13 PM
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Yeah. I'm not a girl. Nor am I interested in guys. So my insight can't be fully applied to those situations. I'm just trying to say that the bitch-shield is not necessarily personal. Certainly makes sense that it can broken through. Yeah, this is what the insanity of the female system is though. Some girls with a bitch shield are like your situation - they just aren't interested. Really. Not at all. There's nothing you can do - there's no Game that's going to happen. But then for some other girl…
/r/TheRedPill21/07/14 07:57 PM
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Then why do some girls suck my dick but say no to sex...! What do they get out of that. Because sex is about validation (not the only thing it's about, but it's a huge one). It gives her the emotional feeling of validation that she's sexually attractive, without the drawbacks of actually having sex. (Note that I upvoted your comment, but I see people miss again and again how much sex is about validation, especially for women).
/r/TheRedPill21/07/14 07:39 PM
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If you walked into a room and a fat girl grabbed your cock and knelt down, would you stop her from sucking you off? I'm not the other poster, but yes. In fact, I have done something like that with women who were more physically attractive but had no chemistry or vibe with.
/r/TheRedPill21/07/14 07:30 PM
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Yeah, I'm glad to see women realizing this. There are some feminists I've known who I don't care about their opinion, but I've seen a few sucked into the pretend-caring-equality who were genuinely good people, but then were out there spreading the hate and villification. Feminism in the 80's and 90's was very one-sided. It cared about women's issues, only somewhat noticed mens. But it wasn't like today where it's just about hating and attacking men.
/r/TheRedPill21/07/14 07:13 PM
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I think that trying to meet a guy at a bar who she doesn't already know for a woman is a lot of work. Of course if she'll just sleep with anything it's not, but her role is the gatekeep and it's a ton of work to try to figure a guy out at a bar. If she's usually more of a relationship girl, being part of a social circle is the easiest for her - the social queues and arrangements her emotions pick up on are far more reliable in a social circle where people have to be more respectful, where people…
/r/TheRedPill21/07/14 07:00 PM
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Good leaders aren't assholes. They lead. Right, though I would say that good leaders aren't incapable of being assholes, they're just not defined as being assholes. They can be an asshole when needed, likeable when needed, etc.
/r/TheRedPill21/07/14 01:06 AM
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This sub is going to shit. 14 upvotes to another whiny post. Seriously. You'd think they'd have learned that looks is not the most important thing after Elliot Rodgers, but no. It's another whiny and inaccurate post.
/r/TheRedPill21/07/14 12:19 AM
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A "rights group" exists to improve the standing of whatever division of people they back. Oh man - that's a really good description. If the group is genuinely oppressed, they are fighting for equality. Problem is, when they achieve it a lot of times the group continues it's fight - but it's fight has been "more power for our group" all along. In the context of the group being genuinely oppressed (slaves back in the day), they are fighting for equality. In the context of having achieved equal pow…
/r/TheRedPill20/07/14 06:25 PM
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I got up, started putting my clothes back on. She got up, put her clothes back on. That was about it. There was really...no drama about it at all. I'm pretty sure we hung out for a while after that. She lived back where I grew up and was going to college there. I was going to college a ways away and didn't have a car. I went back to college, long story short I wanted to date a different girl I met at college. When I came back home the next time (Thanksgiving) I went to see a movie with her, then…
/r/TheRedPill20/07/14 08:38 AM
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It's Powertalk, it's not Straight Talk. After a while you'll realize that around 50% of the people putting out accussations are doing so proactively to because they are the people doing those things themselves. Accussing the "manosphere" of what Elliot Rodgers did puts them on the defensive. But look at his attitudes and beliefs: He thought he should be getting laid because he was the "supreme gentleman" - old school feminism "If you're nice to girls they'll like you more!" He went to parties - …
/r/TheRedPill20/07/14 01:36 AM
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Cool, thanks. I would compare it - oddly enough - to video games. In high school we used to play fighting games. I was terrible at them - and I never got any better. I was playing with a bunch of people who were way better than me. In college my roommate and I were both terrible at first person shooter games. But we both liked to play. So we'd play with each other, against each other, etc. Difference is - because we were at similar levels, we both got better by competing against each other. He'd…
/r/TheRedPill20/07/14 01:23 AM
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Probably, but he can give it a shot if he wants to. Icing out a girl who he was friends with for no externally apparent reason can have social consequences for him. He should give her low grade validation every once in a while, while remembering that she is not special and he doesn't need her. I think TRP severely underestimates the utility/social necessity of female friends. First, since he said he hadn't interacted with her for a while I assume they don't have daily friends in common. Otherwis…
/r/TheRedPill20/07/14 12:35 AM
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Trying to get one "back" who repeatedly has shown to not having any interested in you is not just most probably futile, but also reinkindles his oneitis. My story above is exactly what I did to a girl who I briefly dated, didn't see for several years, she moved back to my city, then we hung out - and she friendzoned me hardcore. She wanted to sleep over at my house, she left stuff at my house - whenever I'd get close to making a move on her she'd carefully keep her distance. So I deprioritized h…
/r/TheRedPill20/07/14 12:21 AM
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but a small part of me feels like the scummiest piece of shit if they even show the slightest bit of playful resistance despite that being par for the course. It's gotten better in recent years, but I really used to struggle with it. I know, me to, same thing. I can just exercise a sociopathic level of internal emotional control to pass her tests and not let what she does phase me - problem, then when she jumps on top of making and starts making out (an actual situation) I'm so turned off I'm ju…
/r/TheRedPill19/07/14 11:46 PM
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Also I disagree with the whole rush a frat sentiment in this thread. Most frat brothers lose their individuality and become part of a herd. Sexual strategy still works, ofcourse, but after college you are fucked. Not saying frats are bad but they might not be for everyone. Thing about a frat is, the guys at the top are smart. Whether emotionally or logically or it's just what they've always done, on some level they know that in order to be in the top 20%, they need a lot of guys to make up that …
/r/TheRedPill19/07/14 11:34 PM
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Feminists did everything they could to politicize his actions for their cause, they threw everything they could at the manosphere and kept what stuck. Elliot Rodgers killing 3 women and 6 people was an intentional wording to avoid saying men could be victims. When that didn't stick, they started the /#yesallwomen as a response to the manosphere's /#notallmen. It's a war over language and thought and enough people blindly hate TRP that you could say we claim Jews were behind the holocaust and peo…
/r/TheRedPill19/07/14 10:57 PM
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I don't know man, I've followed the kind of "bitter crowd" advice you're getting and it didn't get me anywhere. How long has it been since you talked to her? Pay attention to her a couple times - then drop. Don't respond next time. Time after that, respond, have something to invite her to. Be flirty, be kinda sexual. Sexually escalate. Then either go for it, or drop it. Having dropped it once, go for it again. Look, like it or not, women often interact with guys like they're objects for their en…
/r/TheRedPill19/07/14 07:41 AM
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That is true, but that's the reality of the OP's situation - he's realized he needs to lead without having to always be cut off by this guy in order for that situation to stop.
/r/TheRedPill19/07/14 07:16 AM
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He shouldn't stress about this. He needs to be patient, growth takes time. That's like competing with an older brother - the other guy isn't living in an alternate timeline, he's always going to be in this guys shadow. I had a friend like that to. He was the first really good friend I had in high school. I liked him as a person. After a while I realized he was keeping other people away from me. He didn't mean to - he wasn't trying to, in fact if there was something he could do to help me out he'…
/r/TheRedPill19/07/14 07:13 AM
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I think TRP would pretty much agree with you on your assessment.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/14 01:27 AM
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I think the TRP forum is TheRedPill flagship website. Probably the blog I see the most referenced is http://therationalmale.com/. But I would say TheRedPill forum is the flagship of TheRedPill. It's about seeing through the bullshit, rather than following an ideology someone else created, so there's no website or other source to "follow" as much.
/r/PurplePillDebate19/07/14 01:26 AM
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Jesus, for all their talk about rape culture, it seems that prostitution could end it. They're far worse than that. People figured out that the #1 factor in a girl getting raped was an association with her getting drunk. When people tried to warn women that getting smashed with people she didn't know increased her odds of getting raped, they had a shit fit. Can you imagine that in any other context? Their #1 priority is clearly not preventing rape. Even RAINN - an organization who's purpose is t…
/r/TheRedPill19/07/14 01:16 AM
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Who would downvote this? It's basically "No more Mr. Nice Guy" in a nutshell. Stop doing things because you expect people to do something in return but do things because you are righteous about it. They downvote it because it's to much crap - outside of dating, things often do work this way. Repeating the sociopathic-feminist rhetoric that nice guys are secretly assholes and the "real" manipulators is a bunch of crap. I do nice things for my friends all the time, and I do in fact expect them to …
/r/TheRedPill19/07/14 12:20 AM
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Hate and anger are appropriate initial responses, but remember that hating someone gives them power over you, you're expending mental energy on them. When you can have no feeling at all regarding them, you have mastered your feelings and have won. When you still have feelings like you did before, but no feelings towards them, you have mastered your feelings and won. When you have to shut off your feelings in order to stop having feelings towards them, you still have a problem.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 11:49 PM
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So what’s a man to do? Some men will choose to avoid women entirely becoming porn researchers in the process. Other men will tolerate the drama or try to avoid it. Around here we call those men betas. Or you can accept woman for who they are. You can accept that women need you to provide them drama and if you don’t they’ll make some of their own. I don't think this is quite the truth. There are women who don't have drama. There are women who are visually attractive who don't have drama. The trut…
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 11:42 PM
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Wow, advocating emotional abuse. Real manly of you Right, "emotional abuse". Women hate that. They don't...you know...flock to movies and call them "romantic" when men do that. Men who take roles treating women in that way aren't, I don't know, seen as sex icons, especially by feminists. Noooooooo... "The Notebook" Best Scenes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeaguDB-v_c
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 11:30 PM
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Drama doesn't give life meaning. Accomplishment does. That's because you're a man, in the lead role. In the follow role that women take (particularly in relationships), what gives life meaning is different. She has her own internal idea of what kind of drama is worthwhile and which kind is not, but that's how she judges it - based on the reaction it creates. Do you care that the company you worked for made record profits? If you're not the CEO, probably not. You care a whole lot when you get a b…
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 10:54 PM
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What happens if you actually are completely wrong? It's happened plenty of times to me where everyone stands around debating which club to, and I interject with "Right, we're going to X". We go there, and it just happens to be closed/ridiculously expensive/playing bad music. Imagine your own reaction is the leader of a group or your boss does something like this. If your group was standing around bickering, no one was going to end up going anywhere, and there was no good alternative plan, you're…
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 10:45 PM
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There's no secret conspiracy here. There is a conspiracy - the conspiracy is to convince you that it's "bad" or "wrong" of you to ignore what she says in the cool state. (And I don't mean over the top things, but it's literally to try to convince you as the guy that you have to do only what she says she wants in the cool state.)
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 10:20 PM
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I feel like this has gotten overplayed. The best analogy I can think of is a job interview. When you come in and say "I want to kiss your ass and tell you what you want to hear so you'll hire me!" you usually lose points. The boss enjoys having their ass kissed, but to much of it says you do that rather than actually knowing how to do your job. But you come in and you show that you know your shit, then say "I want to work here because it's an awesome fucking company", and no one is going to thin…
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 10:12 PM
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Feel free to share stories and hypotheses on this strange paradox. What you did is exactly what you should have done, just call it the way to act rather than a "trial". You never know why a woman wanted something. Maybe her friends said she should. Maybe her mom did. Maybe she was watching a tv show. Who knows. So you gave her what she thought she wanted. It wasn't as good for her. You gave her what she knows she wanted. She liked it a lot more. Women know what they want in the same way that you…
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 09:59 PM
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6 months before she met me she kissed a coworker at a club, got very drunk (which was unlike her), he came back to her place, they made out and she gave him a half finished handjob in her bed before they both passed out. No sex. (Before anyone says she probably shagged him and lied about it, that's a justifiable assumption, but I'm pretty sure she didn't). Being around men who’ve hooked up with my girl brings out my chimp instincts. A retard, or a woman, would squawk I'm "insecure", like some wi…
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 09:14 PM
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I found what you linked to very interesting, because frankly it was nice to read the posters comments and see a reasonable girl rather than the usual feminist hysteria responses. The thread has a lot of over-the-top feminist responses, but the poster herself seemed perfectly reasonable. I liked to bike into work. I would prefer to work bike shorts (we're talking mountain biking shorts here, not spandex) around during the day and bike home. While our dress code is relatively lax, my boss said "no…
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 08:21 PM
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Well, I want to be clear - I'm not saying one can't or shouldn't criticize a movement or party at all. I'm saying that I don't think TRP should get into the liberal vs conservative political posturing, because it's the biggest hamster wheel anyone has ever seen and it always ends up going off the rails. Feminism is different - it's specifically antithetical to trp. I agree with what you're saying - I'm not saying I disagree with what you're saying. It's just that this feels like it's how politic…
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 07:17 AM
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Posted here because it seems like Return of Kings is the flagship TRP website. I would rather disagree with you. ROK is like Jezebel, except we find it annoying for many of the same reasons we find Jezebel annoying. As another poster said, it's mostly clickbait and annoying sensationalism.
/r/PurplePillDebate18/07/14 07:12 AM
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Rather than missing the point, isn't that exactly the point? It becomes wordplay at that point. That my mother filed the papers first has nothing to do with who actually made the divorce happen (my father, thank god) when he moved out.
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 07:02 AM
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Among college educated couples, however, 90% of the divorces are initiated by the woman. (rolls eyes) This misses the point if that statistic is even true. How often does the woman initiate the divorce when there are no children? My mother initiated the divorce after my dad (with my suggesting he do it) moved out. Why? Because you have to be divorced in order to get child support. There was no incentive for him to hurry things along in legally getting a divorce, but there was a huge incentive fo…
/r/TheRedPill18/07/14 12:08 AM
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The narrative that conservatism is the bastion of either homophobia or "religious nut jobs" is just that, the narrative. The other poster wasn't saying (imo) that all conservatives are religious nut jobs or homophobic, he was saying that if you are a religious nut job or homopobic that clearly the conservative party which is more friendly to not liking homosexuality and religion than liberals are is where you would end up. It's like most liberals do not aspire to be a wellfare queen, but it's ha…
/r/TheRedPill17/07/14 11:57 PM
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But the sorts of people we tend to have an issue with on this sub (ie, insane feminists and feminized betas) are probably about 90% leftists. When one of us is complaining about liberals, we are usually not agreeing with conservatives, we are simply complaining at the party that is perpetuating the issue. Yeah, but it starts to become one of those things that feminists do where they constantly hate on men, then when confronted go "Well no, here's a perfectly reasonable explanation as to why this…
/r/TheRedPill17/07/14 11:55 PM
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It's as old as Seinfeld, the idea is that if you think about it, there's no reason to invite someone in at, say, 11pm, for actually having coffee.
/r/TheRedPill17/07/14 11:24 PM
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"it just happened" is literally the phrase the girl who friendzoned me used to describe every one of her next series of boyfriends. (It was followed by "I guess he doesn't respond to my texts because he's just really add", sure, that's why, it's not because he's playing you or just realizes there's no point in taking any brain power to actually read your texts and respond, nooooooooooo...) It was weird to see an ultra liberal girl change from the "I'm going to figure this out and I plan to date"…
/r/TheRedPill17/07/14 11:23 PM
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I actually had success in answering this telling her that it's because I live in my mom's basement, spend all day playing world or warcraft, and my mom won't let me date. The key of course is to have tone, posture, and frame that say that either there's no way that's possible, or your the most alpha amazing guy who's done that ever. It doesn't work as well any more, I think World of Warcraft references have gone out of date, and geeky is actually more attractive now so it starts to seem a little…
/r/TheRedPill17/07/14 11:12 PM
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The only time a bear would be dangerous is if its either really hungry or desperate or you startle it. Actually, bears work more like the analogy to shit tests. A bear who is not used to people will startle and run off. They used to claim that that is the native default state of the bear - but more modern thinking is that bears learn to bear humans during bear hunting season. You can read the cycle in national parks - bears start off afraid of humans, humans do a lot of camping, a few of the bea…
/r/TheRedPill17/07/14 10:26 PM
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Political topics don't belong in TheRedPill. There is no birth control controversy, and, truly and utterly, NO ONE gives a shit if or why a woman uses birth control. Yet, look at these statements, presented in a very confrontational tone, as if someone is actually fighting her right to use birth control: Are you living under a rock? The Hobby Lobby decision was brought to court exactly because someone said "Omg it's morally wrong according to my religion for a woman to be on birth control, so me…
/r/TheRedPill17/07/14 03:46 PM
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I appreciate the responses and comments, however, I think you're missing the point. Is her convincing you that every move you make can lead to a divorce real - or is it a shit test that you're failing because you're bought into it and are living in the fear? Yes, if she leaves you she can hurt you disproportionately. But does she herself end up better off? A woman over 30, with kids and an ex-husband - what are her real prospects there? I've just started to think that that mentality - that every…
/r/TheRedPill17/07/14 08:32 AM
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I judge my opinion of feminism more on the articles that I see women link to on my facebook feed. Every couple of weeks, it's yet another one - don't even get me started on how strongly the feminism needed to pretend that Elliot Rodgers was a "man" but his mostly-male victims were "people who were not men". Let's look at the front page of Everyday Feminism. Article 1 - "10 Ways Men Can Combat Sexist Entitlement in Public" Let's see, a man who killed a bunch of mostly other men and complained abo…
/r/PurplePillDebate17/07/14 08:15 AM
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In western (and pretty much all everywhere) society, in dating men take the lead roll, and women take the follow role. Men are expected to ask the girl out - because he's the lead. Men are expected to initiate sexual contact - because he's the lead. Men are expected to ask the women to marry him - because he's the lead. When the woman is the follow, she cannot be "alpha". Alpha is always the lead. In the follow hierarchy, the top women is the one with the most value - physically attractive, soci…
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 10:18 PM
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If your wife doesn't respect the hell out of you, then the only thing keeping her from pushing that button is convenience People keep writing this. But frankly, I think you've bought into the female frame of hiding reality right in front of you. It's true that in the US, the system is biased towards women. It's true that to many women are actually stupid enough follow through on this, and shoot themselves in the foot. But reality has the ultimate dread game that so far has not been changed - pas…
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 09:48 PM
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I think you did a great breakdown of what's happening. It took a lot of us a while to realize this was it. When a beta husband asks his wife for sex, however innocent the request, what the woman hears is two things: 1) “I am a loser, unworthy of sex;” and 2) “You are sexually failing me.” One minor quibble in the wording, whether you can verbally say it depends on the girl. I've had girlfriends who just can't handle verbally talking about sex, and others for whom it's a turn on when they're turn…
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 09:20 PM
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Yeah, the indoctination of the young is a common political tool, and it's even more chilling here than it it anywhere. "cis"-gender - trying to make gay sound cool, and being straight sound uncomfortable and something you wouldn't want to be.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 08:51 PM
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That is an awesome point, I was going to write the same thing. Read Game, then read Feminism, and it's extremely amusing how Game says "do this", and feminism says "don't do this" to the exact same thing. But guess which one friends of mine have picked up and dated more, vs which one friends have picked up and dated less with? If you want dating advice, in Game there's some good advice mixed in with a lot of crap advice. In feminism it's nothing but crap advice, unless you realize you need to do…
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 08:39 PM
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No, no, no feminism is completely about equality! Just in the sense of George Orwell's Animal Farm: "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others"
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 08:20 PM
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One, their politics are liberal, obnoxious, immediately obvious, and intensely personal. Any sort of policy they discuss is in the light of how it'll affect them personally. They can't hypothesize or give any consideration to the other side. Just as obvious as their politics is their lack of imagination. Lol, those damn liberals! Thinking like that! Now let me get back to conservative thinking that "doesn't" do that. Fox News - "Fair And Balanced". Riiiiiiiight, lol. I mean I agree with a lot of…
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 08:18 PM
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Basically you're a fuckwit, you clearly have little to no respect or love for this "feminine and sweet" women and you won't stop cheating on her. Just like not all women are relationship material, not all men are either, including you. One way or another your relationship with this women will break down. Lol, I kinda thought something similar to. But the one thing that stuck out in the story is the claim that she's 25, attractive, and a virgin. I find that almost impossible to believe, and more …
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 07:31 PM
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Finding a hot girl with a great personality is a needle in a fucking haystack. If what you care about is the person to whom you wake up in the morning, and if this girl is a 10 LTR, then I'm not sure there's more to talk about. Yeah. I passed on several girls who are now in relationships because they weren't quite perfect, and let me tell you - I found out that the "perfect" or "high enough to meet my standards" girls were a mirage. There was one girl in particular (Girl A) that I making out wit…
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 07:25 PM
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Yeah, it's pretty depressing to see TRP cave into the very hamstering it says it's against. Length doesn't magically create quality content, but short low quality content is a lot quicker to skip past than long, rambling low quality content.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 03:58 PM
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But you just said the same thing three times just to make it meatier.. I don't even know if that comment is long enough so this is for you bot Ahahahaha, seriously, is rambling on saying the same thing in 3 repetitive sentences actually creating "quality content?". Doesn't seem like it to me.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 03:50 PM
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I know it causes minor inconvenience but if you really can't add a few more words to your base sentence then the comment wasn't probably worth it. All that seems to be happening is you're changing a comment like "this" to "This. (Screw you annoying bot.)". When it's noise, it just makes the noise longer and take more time to read through. I don't really agree that it's noise though. I don't think the other approach - long rambling comments that make their point through sheer exhaustion of words …
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 03:43 PM
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I think they're arguing that it's not efficient if it erases good posts. Exactly, it's as useful as a bot that only allows posts with a certain number of vowels in them or something. The argument is that it's not creating quality content, it's just being annoying and it doesn't get any useful job done. People wanting to post short posts just add arbitrary text at the end anyways, it's not causing them to write anything more meaningful.
/r/TheRedPill16/07/14 03:40 PM
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That was pretty much the correlation I was implying, yes. It's usually a bluepill whiteknight that will try to cockblock you out of resentment that women are paying you more attention. Ah, fair enough, I've seen men do it to, just not to the extent that women will do it. Someone more on the alpha/red pill spectrum would just observe, shrug, and either focus on self improvement or easier hunting as the situation merits. If you're talking about the situation where you are sitting and talking about…
/r/TheRedPill15/07/14 11:28 PM
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I respect your experience, but mine is quite different – I've only seen women get their husbands to lose friends, while the women themselves maintain their relationships with their girlfriends and even acquire new friends. Interesting, it certainly differs from my experience. I could list it out, but don't want to sound like I'm arguing, different people have different experiences.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/14 10:42 PM
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I'd rather see this bitch be punished and a clear message sent to those that think false accusations are OK. Better yet I'd like for people to not be sent to prison without any evidence. But sure lets just let her off, who cares right? only 10 years of his life ruined, no big deal. Yeah...like a lot of feminists, you seem to care more about your anger over a situation being realized than the actual victim. Doesn't change that the reality is neither would probably happen if this girl thought she …
/r/MensRights15/07/14 10:35 PM
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Because the theme is about villification. To villify a group, you: 1. Make a big deal out of times when they did something bad or villainous 2. Keep quiet times when that group did anything positive, or were themselves the victims This is what the feminist were trying to do with Elliot Rodgers - they wanted to talk about him because he was a male villain (of course he was). They pointedly tried to remove the men who were victims (like his 3 roomates, the first 3 people he killed - with a knife) …
/r/MensRights15/07/14 08:04 PM
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Yeah, seriously, a girl I dated who was 8 years younger than me (she was in college, I wasn't robbing the cradle here) thought it was funny to accuse me of being a "pedophile". Since I'm older, that word actually means something strongly negative to me, whereas to her it just meant "any guy dating a girl younger than himself". Now she's in her early 20's, and dating a guy in his 40's - far, far older than my age difference to hers obviously. And she's not just "ashamed dating" him - she's postin…
/r/TheRedPill15/07/14 05:23 PM
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That's great, you're basically saying you'd rather see this guy rot in jail than see this guy finally go free and his accuser not be punished. That's the actual reality of what you're saying. There's no scenario where this girl goes to jail without meaning that it would have made it far, far less likely that she would have admitted to have come forward and lied. People would like to live in a fantasy dreamland where everything magically works out in the end, but that's often not possible in real…
/r/MensRights15/07/14 05:19 PM
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Sigh. Way to miss the point.
/r/MensRights15/07/14 05:18 PM
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I don't know, I definitely have seen men do it, but not to the same extent that women do it. The only guy I knew who consistently did it was kind of a girl - he had a lot of girl attitudes, grew up with 3 sisters and no brothers, and we joked about how predicting his behavior meant asking yourself what a girl would do in his situation. I've seen it happen, but the more beta the guy is the more likely he is to do it. Whereas almost all women I've known react similarly.
/r/TheRedPill15/07/14 05:11 PM
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This is, you'll notice if you've had female friends for a while, why women don't make the best friends for each other either. They all seem to be programmed somehow that getting married means socially isolating themselves and their husband. They drop their own female friends like they're nothing at the same rate they get their husband to drop his male friends - which is to say not 100%, but more than 50%. Sometimes it's in your face, sometimes it's a more subtle process of slowly making hanging …
/r/TheRedPill15/07/14 05:07 PM
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So if I killed someone, lied about it and was set free, then I told I did it and proved it, I should go free? I'm not wasting time with strawman examples. That doesn't even relate to my post. I get your point, if I was her father I'd tell to leave her alone as long as she tells the truth, it indeed does the wronged no good sitting locked up for nothing because person who put him there sits quiet, but if that was indeed true I see nothing stopping women simply throwing accusations left and right …
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 09:13 PM
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Edit: I confused this article with another one. Deleted my comment because I'm not sure it applies. This situation is a bit more complex than the other one I thought I was responding to.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 08:56 PM
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It seems like you hit respond but then didn't respond to my actual post. Punishing people in a situation where it was proven their accusation was false despite their claims otherwise is what should happen. It punishes people for doing it, and it deters others from making their own false accusations in the future. Punishing people who came forward and admitted they lied - in cases where no one would have known if they hadn't said something - doesn't make sense. All that happens is that people who…
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 07:54 PM
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The quote is bullshit, but I would be a little concerned about charging people who come forward and say that "I admit, I lied and someone went to jail for it" after that person has been convicted might discourage people from admitting they lied. When someone makes an accusation, and it's proven that they lied, that person should be charged. But that's different than someone who makes an accussation, isn't found out, and admits they lied on their own. I'm just not sure what to do on the second on…
/r/MensRights14/07/14 07:28 PM
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I was not surprised in the slightest that the beginning of the article started off talking about how his father was absent (don't remember if he left, died of something unintentionally, etc) and he was raised by a single mom and a single grandmother. I'm not 100% sure he's personally as beta as he sounds - I've met a guy like this in person, and he's always in a tortured state - he does the right things of standing up to his girl, being aggressive, etc etc, it's just sort of like catholic guilt …
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 06:51 PM
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Like all "rules", if your SMV is high enough the woman will find a way to fuck you. I think it's more accurate to say if your SMV is higher enough than hers is, she will find a way to fuck you. As my own SVM has gone up, I've noticed that I can get away with more and more mistakes - but mostly only with the less attractive girls. The more attractive girls move from "impossible" into "can work if you play your cards right" territory.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 06:45 PM
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This comes with rejecting women. You sleep with a woman, but don't fuck her. Technically, to her that means you rejected her. While I disagree with your use of the word "technically" (technically you didn't reject her, but effectively you did) I agree with your main point. Women are from a very passive aggressive world where they never say anything to each other directly, and instead imply through actions. Thus not having sex with her can mean "I was thinking about it, but I decided I didn't wan…
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 06:43 PM
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At first I just cuddle up to her which gets a negative reaction .. "I haven't been touched in a while .. sorry", to which I say "Well, I don't want you to feel uncomfortable… you can sleep in another bed if you like." "No, I want to stay." See, this is a great reaction and handling of the situation.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 06:19 PM
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Why is the exception to the rule being upvoted the most? (no offense) You even say that you might not even be remembering this exception correctly. That's not what I said. I'm 100% certain we were doing what the OP describes - making out, then going to sleep without having sex. I was really obvious about that in my post. What I'm not certain of is whether we were ever sleeping next to each other without at least making out. So, they're looking for a beta-comfort blanket that they will eventually…
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 06:11 PM
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The quote is bullshit, but I would be a little concerned about charging people who come forward and say that "I admit, I lied and someone went to jail for it" after that person has been convicted might discourage people from admitting they lied. When someone makes an accusation, and it's proven that they lied, that person should be charged. But that's different than someone who makes an accussation, isn't found out, and admits they lied on their own. I'm just not sure what to do on the second on…
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 04:40 PM
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The idea that fucking women is all we're interested in strikes me as really myopic, naive and frankly, fucking boring. There's a lot more to the world than intercourse. An obsession with intercourse is just another ball and chain around your ankle. TRP is about freedom. Fucking women is the motivation for founding TRP, and it the primary reason for TRP in the sidebar. It's not the only reason, but your desire to hijack it doesn't change it's origins.
/r/TheRedPill14/07/14 04:14 PM
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Great post. I would add that one thing that adds confusion with women though is differentiating between "things most women actually don't like" vs "things most women say they don't like, but actually respond positively to". That's where "watch what women do, not what they say" comes in. This is why when people here tell you to take up a hobby they aren't telling you to start playing video games or joining a Dungeons and Dragons quest. While they may be fun and a way to meet new people, they don'…
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 10:25 PM
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"B-but what if I get injured?" "Shut up and lift, you little bitch!" Note that when you do get injured, these same guys will tell you it's your fault for getting injured. Meanwhile, you're the one stuck with a gimpy leg for a year the keeps you from getting laid, and the possibility of needing surgery. When you complain about it, they'll give you the same kind of whiny shaming language and excuses you get from talking trp to feminists. None of that bravado is going to make a damn bit of differen…
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 10:03 PM
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Others have answered why women recoil from the idea of mgtow, but I've noticed they also get some hate on trp and similar places, mostly just due to misunderstanding. Mgtow contradicts some trp ideas and agrees with others. It's just a different strategy to reach the same end goal: a happy life despite feminism. I don't think TRP hates on the kind of mgtow that is described in the thread post above - just goes and be's happy, enjoys life, doesn't care about women. TRP hates on the mgtow that you…
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 09:47 PM
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Hmm. I don't know...I'm 100% sure I was sleeping next to my 2.5 year friends-with-benefits in college before we were having sex, can't remember if we were sleeping next to each other before we were making out or not. That was like 10 years ago though. I think it's different with girls with a very low partner count. Another girlfriend we'd sleep in the same bed, I'd initiate making out, one night she finally takes off her own clothes and says "let's have sex". In my personal experience, with girl…
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 09:29 PM
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Wow, you missed the point on that one.
/r/TheRedPill13/07/14 06:07 AM
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I was thinking about this, and I think your point is a good addition, but it's an addition rather than a chance of what I wrote. Perhaps what I would would be more accurately phrased as "It gets crazy because high value leads don't let people have a lot of influence over them without those people earning it and proving their value".
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 11:14 PM
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There have been a lot of great analysis's in this thread, but I haven't seen what I think is the most important one yet. And that is - Gatsby was playing a game where he could never win the prize. His pedestalization of Daisy is the fundamental problem, bigger than his lack of true alphaness, etc. He's in a no win situation, either: - He'll never be able to get Daisy because his actual value is never going to be high enough to match a "natural" alpha who's also loaded with cash - He can get Dais…
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 11:00 PM
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This is MR... Not redpill. Let's aim to keep this subreddit targeted towards the sexual strategy and positive masculinity component of redpill not towards the "look at this unfair double standard in the media" component Yeah...it's one thing to say "this is why this feminist article that showed up all over my facebook feed is bullshit" - that's closer to trp, pointing out bullshit. But I feel like posts just describing that things are sexist against men don't quite belong here. You certainly see…
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 09:15 PM
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Personally, I think this is a great post and spot on. Wonder if you should make a front page post about it. Ideas like privilege emotionally resonate with women, and there's a reason - it's because they're surrounded by other women. And in a nebulous social system where privilege isn't really based on something concrete, what's the only way to get those women to stop? Convincing the women with privilege to "check their privilege".
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 09:09 PM
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Not sure why more people didn't like the news. I think it's because you presented it as "news" and as "the only factor". While it's annoying when feminists (or women) claim that age doesn't matter at all, it's not as black and white as "the youngest you can get!" either. What I'm trying to say is there's a difference between "get the youngest you can get!" and "here's a list of reasons why yes, it does makes sense that men are attracted to younger women".
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 09:01 PM
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There are legions of boys abducted every year and forced to fight as boy soldiers in Africa and nobody gives a shit in the West but instead fuels the various conflicts with weapons and money to exploit the resources. Right, and this is what the case usually is when feminism claims that "women were historically oppressed!" - they're usually leaving out the side that men had it just as bad if not worse in that same situation. Everyone got screwed over.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 08:59 PM
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If you watch 70's horror movies, the formula is simple - girl acts sexually promiscous, she gets killed by the shark/serial killer/supernatural monster. Sometimes the guy gets killed to, sometimes not. This pattern repeats in the 90's and early 2000's, except the shark/serial killer/supernatural being is replaced with rape. Rather than "she's promiscious -> death" it's "sexual tension -> rape, sometimes murder". All girls are exposed to this. However, in real life, talking about rape is like bei…
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 08:32 PM
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Oh man, there's way to much of the bitter crowd commenting. There's a huge difference in dealing with a girl that's flaking on you that you just met, vs a girl who you slept with before, talks about wanting to do it again, etc etc. It's stupid to throw away girls you've already established sexual connection with who go to effort to sleep with you, just so you can feed a sense of narcissistic control. Your context is that a girl who you slept with before, still seems to have sexual feelings for, …
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 08:08 PM
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The problem with asking a question like that is that your response is basically that you'd want that person to be unnattractive and non-sexual. After all - you don't want to have sex with a gay man. (Unless you're gay, of course, but that's not the target of your post.) The kind of mindset you're talking about is unfortunately what a lot of guys did, and found that the only way they could get a woman to talk to them was to non-sexualize themselves. They (this definitely included me) figured out …
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 07:13 PM
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Yeah, I wonder if what's going on here is that the OP feels like this guy doesn't bring any value in his friendship, the guy is being annoying (that's what he's being, it's more convenient for you if your plates don't have other obvious options so you have all the control), and the guy is looking for a moral-sounding excuse to ditch him. I've chosen to drop friends that I felt like where holding me back. I didn't just freak out, I noticed that they weren't really adding any value and repeatedly …
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 07:01 PM
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You should consider what value he brings to your life and the group, and act based on that. Is he really a friend, or just a good acquaintance who you have things in common with? Yeah, the OP's description of this being a "betrayal" is a little absurd. He told the guy he was dropping a plate, the guy went to pick the plate up as his own. Even if the girl was his girlfriend it's weird but not "obvious betrayal". Obvious betrayal is when you tell your friend that you're having relationship problem…
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 06:55 PM
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Hadn't meant for it to sound like "oh god it's the worst of times" at all, though that's how it reads. I mean it's bizarre that guys used to have to pretend to want a relationship in order to get laid, now you have to pretend to not want one in order to get a relationship. I hadn't meant as much "oh god it's terrible" as much as "oh god it's so stupid" - I changed my life a decade ago when things were bad, and frankly everything except for dating is pretty good now.
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 06:16 AM
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Interesting, I hadn't thought of it with "reactionary" rather than "influence" before, I'll have to give it some thought. I keep meaning to write an article, but then...you know, I have real life things to do. :-) Keep meaning to though, like your comment is something I hadn't thought of before on the subject, hmm...
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 01:29 AM
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I don't understand this one. Could u explain it please? Feminism found that a great tool to get everyone concerned was to create a story where something happened, and a woman was scared or afraid. Women didn't like this happening to other women, and the majority of men protectively didn't want this to happen to the woman either. This became their go-to tactic for anything they didn't like, with a particular emphasis on anything dating or sexually related. Did a man talk to her who she didn't wan…
/r/TheRedPill11/07/14 01:25 AM
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I think it's specifically meant not to be, to discourage people from acting entirely sociopathically.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 11:16 PM
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I'd really be interested in a discussion of this. Me to. It's a question I've wrestled with. I have the intelligence, perception, self awareness and emotional skills needed to manipulate people and achieve my ends through sociopathic means. I know the landscape is different, not necessarily better. I've had to become sociopathic at my job, and it makes people respect me more but want to work with me less. I was raised in a religious home, and though I'm not religious at all anymore I suppose som…
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 11:15 PM
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A lot of women shut down when they are being raped, terrified at how much more the guy might hurt her if she fights, it's a complication. And a lot of women who are raped are so emotionally traumatized they don't want to report it, don't want to go through a trial, etc etc. But do you know who does have no problem reporting it? Girls who don't like that the taxi driver didn't let them illegally smoke in his cab - http://jonathanturley.org/2009/05/23/police-refuse-to-charge-women-who-allegedly-fa…
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 10:24 PM
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So, unless you're some sort of deviant psycho that does it without witnesses or recording equipment you're safe. So I'm sure that feminists are encouraging legistlation to make sure it's legal to record all of your sex encounters, right?...riiiiiiiiiight.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 10:17 PM
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Why do leftists always want to deal with legitimate issues in the most asinine ways? I'm just going to go ahead and quote you - Left and right are exactly the same, they both want to use the state to enforce their beliefs and views. The extreme left wants to make you afraid of sex via rape, the right wants to make you afraid of sex by having the government ban any form of birth control, even after you're married. "the most asnine" ways doesn't apply to one side more than the other.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 10:15 PM
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That's the point. This is a power move, it has nothing to do with women's safety or solving crimes. It's about having control over men. The 'rape culture' hysteria didn't prevent any rape (since criminals don't read feminist leaflets), what it tried to do was paint every man as a potential criminal and every woman as a potential victim. ... Things like this won't be a surprise for any history buffs. Women have been trying to tighten the pussy whip on men since forever. The only difference was th…
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 10:04 PM
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I never "manipulated" anyone The irony is that she is trying to manipulate you in this situation. Who says "we're not having sex" when they mean "I want to have sex with you"? In your situation it's probably not intentional manipulation, but it's manipulation from her side anyways. You're basically just not letting yourself get pulled into her manipulation.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 09:52 PM
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I was going to respond about how typical this is (sounds like "I'm emotionally manipulate/blackmail him because I think he might try to emotionally manipulate/blackmail me) - Honestly, now I'm not sure if I see a future together. I don't want a guy that's trying to emotionally manipulate me by negging or whatever the hell they do over there. But after reading through the comments the poster left, it sounds like "she" is a troll. Her comments are pretty crazy, but more pointedly I've known a lot …
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 09:45 PM
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Yet they haven't had sex in a while. That poor sap. Actually, did it actually say that in the post? I searched for "sex" and it didn't say anything like that, just said "Our relationship was so perfect until today". Edit: Ah, she repeats it several times further down in the comments. Honestly, it's kinda hard to believe that it's a real post - what actual feminists claim their relationship is so perfect without sex? Seems...odd...
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 09:38 PM
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Yeah, if you want to see the biggest male hamsters you've ever seen, challenge the weight lifting crowd. Worried about getting injured lifting? They'll say "You don't need to worry about it all!" Got injured and angry about it? They'll say "It's your fault for getting yourself injured!" Hamster hamster, followed by shaming language, insulting you etc. Want to know what program to do? They'll go "starting strength starting strength" - a program that's literally designed to do the opposite of what…
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 06:44 PM
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As other people have said, I'm a little torn here - if we link directly to the article rather than taking a screenshot or something aren't we just encouraging more of those kind of articles by adding traffic? I used to read that author. It's apparent that he white knights for feminism and man hating, but if you look back when he started it wasn't always that way. Why does he write that stuff? Because man-hating feminism gets pageviews and thus money. And by sending him links, it doesn't actually…
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 06:20 PM
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I think some of the very traits that help you rise through the ranks destroy your very ability to derive meaning and happiness from that ascension. From the Gervais Principle - http://www.ribbonfarm.com/2010/10/14/the-gervais-principle-iv-wonderful-human-beings/ As we will see next time, when Sociopaths head down their own paths to delusion, despair and descent into madness, they take the first step by giving up on happiness.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 12:45 AM
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I think the the OP is saying almost exactly the same thing as what you quoted.
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 12:25 AM
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Good post, though a little tl;dr lol. A woman who is actively looking for a mate will be testing for compliance. Now, we typically refer to compliance testing and shit testing as the same thing-but in the context of long-term mate selection, I will put forward that there is a stark difference, and that difference is the intention for which the test is given. While women will test an alpha's mettle by giving him shit tests to see if he fails to comply, a woman will test a man's potential to provi…
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 12:17 AM
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Interesting post, there's one thing that in my opinion you left out though: Anyway this is basically a cold hard fact to support going for the youngest girl you can get if length and quality of long term life are important to you. I'd say it's not the youngest girl you can "get" as much as it's the youngest girl that you can: - Hold onto without extraordinary effort - Isn't just attracted to older guys because she's emotionally insane In my late 20's I dated a girl who I flirted with when she wa…
/r/TheRedPill10/07/14 12:11 AM
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Thanks! You know...you could award points since you're an endorsed contribute with Alt+11...just saying'... :D
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 03:58 AM
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I couldn't stop laughing for about 5 minutes after seeing this one recently. It came out for YesAllWomen: ‘I Thought He Was Going To Kill Me’: One Woman’s Harrowing Misunderstanding Of How Haircuts Work http://www.theonion.com/articles/i-thought-he-was-going-kill,36161/
/r/TheRedPill09/07/14 03:56 AM
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A lot of liberals fail to realize that conservatism isn't inherently bad, and that a lot of the political disagreements are mere differences of moral ideology. Ditto with conservatives, though how important differences of moral ideology are is a different subject. It's not a simple matter of being intelligent or unintelligent. It's more about the method of thinking. There are intelligent people on both side of the spectrum, but it feels to me like most of them haven't submitted themselves to rea…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 10:48 PM
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Yawn. I've been using the internet to long to get into the typical ego battle where you accuse other people of what you're doing and carefully selectively misunderstand them as part of your arguing technique. It's boring. You go ahead and keep white knighting all you want. It's your life. Do whatever you think works for you, not matter how absurd your "arguments" are. Adios.
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 10:33 PM
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Well, I would say your social status matter more than your biceps. The thing about lifting is that it's a lot easier to make gains with it and look more attractive - relatively speaking, it's straightforward to recommend. Social status is a zero sum game, and it's a lot of work, difficult to describe, etc etc to increase your social status. And then being in shape does make things a little easier when trying to increase social status. It's all about effective power, and in our society social pop…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 10:25 PM
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Anyways, what are your thoughts? Why do you think Seduction is so taboo? Why is it okay to talk about other shit in extreme detail, but seduction is the only exception? Because everything else is stuff you're supposed to be good at and do repeatedly - getting better at basketball, math, logical thinking, etc - it's a long running build up. Societally, seducing someone is supposed to lead to getting married and then seducing new people is over. Done with. It's not a skill you're supposed to hone …
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 10:16 PM
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Even RAINN says the same thing - https://www.rainn.org/news-room/rainn-urges-white-house-task-force-to-overhaul-colleges-treatment-of-rape In 16 pages of recommendations, RAINN urged the task focus to remain focused on the true cause of the problem. “In the last few years, there has been an unfortunate trend towards blaming “rape culture” for the extensive problem of sexual violence on campuses. While it is helpful to point out the systemic barriers to addressing the problem, it is important to …
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 10:03 PM
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Yeah, I don't think it's as bad as the other poster claims either. There is a bias that a male murder is bad, while a female murderer is "well maybe there was a reason". A female murdered is given more of the benefit of the doubt, more consideration. But not to the level of letting her off usually. (Not more than a man, see any number of men who also got away with murder.)
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 06:18 PM
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It works if you just want to bang a girl and move on to the next one; it's terrible if you're looking to settle down with a wife. Yeah, if you're the kind of man Roosh - driven by a need for ego-based sex where the more notches the better and you barely care whether you actually enjoyed the sex as long as you got off - it's great. Also you are in the top 20%. It's a better time than ever for that group. For those of us who just find that boring-ass boring, it's of the worst times. I've watched m…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 05:00 PM
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As other people said, they seem to rate "attractiveness" by taking a survey and asking women what they would want - which is where you get a survey of what women feel they're supposed to want, which is only vaguely correlated with what they actually want. They create a false dichotomy - comparing an overly aggressive take-no-prisoners sports guy - He is extremely competitive, refusing to yield against opponents who have been playing much longer. All of his movements tend to communicate dominance…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 04:39 PM
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Interesting thoughts... I'm finding it really hard to balance empathy and emotion with sociopathy though. My brain wants to highly prioritize one or the other. ..trying to keep both active but use the one that's either the most enjoyable or the most valuable for the context has been...difficult. I would posit that contentedness is not guaranteed by accepting either in full. I agree with you again - most of success in life has come from prioritizing the empathy side, while using the sociopathic s…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 05:32 AM
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I don't really know how to respond to this. I'm good at reading signs, I know when a girl is interested in me. No one could really tell you over the internet that it was either way. Some people just get a bit to bitter here - TRP is also filled with stories of women sleeping with someone else when they have a boyfriend. Reality is filled with stories of girls who break up with their boyfriend, "somehow" already having another guy lined up. I think it's true that the "looking for validation that …
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 04:51 AM
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Really - what laws are being passed? Where is this huge social movement against men that I have not noticed in a single day of my life in the largest city in this fucking country? My parents got divorced, and I saw it happening before, during, and after their divorce. Either you're to blind to notice what's obviously been going on (even feminists don't pretend to be that blind), or you're in the top 20% of attractive who get the "hot guy" pass. Congrats if you are. Colored men are put in jail fo…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 03:07 AM
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I think it's some sort of mechanism to try to keep a seperation between men and women as groups. Back in the day, you might remember, boy-only and girl-only schools were pretty common. Men mostly just worked with other men - women stayed home and mostly socialized only with other women (other than their husband and children). If they went out socially to mixed gender things the couple would go together. I suspect (though haven't thought it through yet) that it's related to trying to recreate rou…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 02:52 AM
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Yeah, my life started moving forward again when I realized everything interesting and useful happened to me when I was part of a group that I either didn't totally agree with at the time, or in retrospect would have disagreed with some things on. I'm liberal, but my local scene right now has a lot of conservatives in it and I'm friends with a lot of them. I respect the ones that makes sense, and there's a few that I think are idiots - but that's definitely true of some of the liberals I used to …
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 02:48 AM
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Personally, Game and TheRedPill helped me realize that girls around me were interested in me but I just wasn't picking up on it and that their challenges weren't actually "get lost" but were obstacles to be overcome rather than being 100% get lost hints like feminists had convinced me they were. But that's not where it helped me the most. It helped me the most at my job. I was slowly being taken advantage of more and more, and my boss who himself was probably being expected to do way more than h…
/r/TheRedPill08/07/14 02:29 AM
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It's about spewing back an equivalent amount of bullshit but from the opposite end of the spectrum. I'm not sure I agree with you that it's "as much", but ok. I think the best thing is to ignore it and go about your life reasonably. Like I said, on a personal level, that's great if you didn't grow up indoctrinated with it. If you did, you don't have a choice if you want to be successful. On a societal level, that is the disaster that led us to where we are. One day you find yourself arrested by …
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 09:50 PM
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I think the title of this article is misleading. The actual article is that all these groups can fall prey to the similar thought patterns, and that's true. But the title suggests they're basically the same, and they're not.
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 09:09 PM
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Like many radical leftists Riiiiight, I've never heard of any right-wingers, say, starting an entire "news network" to do the same thing. Naaaaaah. Now back to a story on how Obama is a communist, sent by terrorists to destroy America! Sorry, but if you believe it's something that just one side of politics does - you're the pawn of whatever side you're on.
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 08:54 PM
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This place is really just the male internet reaction to internet-feminism and Social-Justice-Warriorship. I read through your entire post, and you ended with this - which is pretty much what I was saying above. TheRedPill is about seeing through the bullshit. On a personal level, if you've been lucky enough to not have been raised with the bullshit, it doesn't have a ton of value for you to see through the bullshit because you don't have a lot to see through. And women don't respect you if you s…
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 06:27 PM
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We agree that they were acting like thieves / terrible people. :-) Not sure how you're following their with your wording though - "isn't inline with thief/terrible person" says "not a thief/terrible person". (fyi, I did not downvote your comment)
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 06:17 PM
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Sounds to me like she simply have a clue. Probably not a very smart one either. No, she was fairly intelligent otherwise. I knew her for years. I knew a different girl who was dumb a as rock, but this girl was fairly smart in all other areas.
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 04:35 PM
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Uh, I think you just hit on something pretty profound by accident. Thanks, though it's not by accident, I've been saying this for the last year or so. Watch horror movies from the 70's it became cliche the pattern it followed: - Women in the movie acts in sexual way that's societally looked down on - Almost immediately, something "unrelated" bad happens to her - she's eaten by the shark, attacked by the serial killer, etc etc. The theme is "stray outside social norms for sexuality and something …
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 04:32 PM
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Wikipedia - Sex Differences in Crime http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_crime Males committed the vast majority of homicides in the United States at that time, representing 90% of the total number of offenders. Males were more likely to be murder victims (76.8%). Females were most likely to be victims of domestic homicides (63.7%) and sex-related homicides (81.7%) Men are more likely to commit direct violence, but also far more likely to be the victims of direct violence than women …
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 03:54 PM
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I don't mind anti-rape sentiment and objectives. I mind them because they seem to be about something completely unrelated to actually preventing rape, and in fact, after a while I have gotten the feeling that the crowd that yells "rape culture" is actually somehow encouraging rape. Even RAINN has says "rape culture" does not help in preventing rape - https://www.rainn.org/news-room/rainn-urges-white-house-task-force-to-overhaul-colleges-treatment-of-rape When I was in college, I noticed that som…
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 03:42 PM
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Lol, I've been writing that! Did you figure that out, or did you read it somewhere? (Totally true though)
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 08:26 AM
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Wait, are you saying this sounds familiar somehow? In Mein Kampf, Hitler used the main thesis of "the Jewish peril", which posits a Jewish conspiracy to gain world leadership. During his work, Hitler blamed Germany's chief woes on the parliament of the Weimar Republic, the Jews, and Social Democrats, as well as Marxists. He announced that he wanted to completely destroy the parliamentary system, believing it to be corrupt in principle, as those who reach power are inherent opportunists. Claiming…
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 06:33 AM
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It's okay. Feminists will hamster their way out of this one. They'll just say that those "bad feminists" were a vocal minority group. It's funny, because - this sums up your response perfectly. What makes this "minority group" claim impossible is that those are the people who write feminist articles. Most of the founders of the feminist movement were - in fact - the product of an extremely abusive upbringing. Feeling bad for them rather than being angry - I understand that, but those people from…
/r/TheRedPill07/07/14 06:11 AM
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What's funny about this is that while he's trying to create a parody, his parody is not actually completely wrong. Reality is that men are far more likely to be the victims of non-sexual violence than women are (despite what feminists are trying to claim). This really is reflected in movies if you think about it like he said in the video - men are more likely to be the heroes, but men are also more likely to be the faceless backdrops that get killed with no consequence. In reality, while men are…
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 08:10 PM
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I actually think that's a little bit true. But in a culture where feminism does that, and gains influence in mass media, passing laws, and even the president quotes their manipulatively created "statistics", what other approach can you take?
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 07:57 PM
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I think that you don't have to be an ass hole to hold that alpha position. Some people will try to claim that you're an asshole, though. Being more alpha while not turning into a genuine sociopath is about making the decision about whether you are or aren't yourself, rather than automatically assuming that because someone else has that opinion that it's true.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 07:32 PM
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In college, I noticed that bizarrely the women who always felt this way were far more likely to end up actually getting raped. It seemed like they viewed sexuality as "scary" and couldn't tell the difference between the kind they liked and the kind they didn't. Worst one was a girl drinking alone with a guy she barely knew in his room. She was terrified of atm's and walking across campus alone at night, but had no problem doing the riskiest behavior possible.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 07:27 PM
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Funny how these articles never highlight "dangers" with high status men, to. It always "just happens" to be plumbers, taxi drivers, ups delivery men, etc.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 07:24 PM
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This is something that "makes sense" from a female perspective. It resonates, it hits home emotional, for one reason - society has been using the fear of rape as a tool to shape female sexuality for a decade or two now. I mean look at one of the quotes they put in big letters on a picture - We're Afraid To Let The Taxi Driver Drop Us Off Directly In Front Of Our Building Why would one be "afraid" of that? If you had the uncommon psychopath who is going to attack you, those odds don't go up wheth…
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 07:21 PM
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PUAs will often say "looks do not matter" this is because they want to over emphaize the role that PUA methods have in attracting women. ... Guy puts male model on tinder Groan. First, you're full of it that PUA's say "looks do not matter". Non of the well known PUA's say that. What they say is that it's your alpha characteristics and social status that matter more than your looks. Then they saying that it's important to get in shape and dress well - because looks matter, just not as much as you…
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 07:00 PM
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Good post, glad to see someone else talk about smart vs dumb emotional thinking rather than trying to frame emotional thinking as good or bad. I would say that "spock mode" is inneffective to use long term, but it is useful as a fallback position. It helps you deal with very emotionally unpleasant situations when you have to, and helps you detect when other people are manipulating you or your emotional thinking has gone completely off track.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 06:53 PM
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That's fine, thanks for the clarification. The context is irrelevant, as an idea it stands by itself. You aren't even going to update it? I thought this was trp, not askhamsters. Kinda ironic that in a thread about women lying you exhibit the same behavior. It's understandable to post something that turns out to be from another source, but saying "oh, right, well it's not a big deal to lie about the source" is pretty ironic.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 06:04 PM
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It did make me wonder if women being attracted to 'dominant' men is less of a hard-wired biological thing and more a result of standard human egotism. I disagree with trp theory that it's biologically hardwired - I think that it has to do with socialization, but that's just a matter of which gender wants it. Which genders takes the "follow" role? Women - they expect men to approach, men to pursue, men to ask them to marry them, etc. Someone in the follow role is going to look for someone who has…
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 06:01 PM
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I've never seen something like that happen. Street sweeping isn't an actual occupation any more. Let's say it's a garbage man. Would the woman go for the garbage man? No - because she'd never meet him. Have you met your garbage man? I never have. TRP theory doesn't say that she wouldn't be interested in the hot young stud in your scenario - she'd likely marry the important male boss who's a stupid idiot, then fool around with the hot young stud. That's what TRP theory says she would do, not choo…
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 05:52 PM
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Does anyone else think he could of handled that better? No. If they don't go away and the cops show up, him yelling at them puts it into a he said / she said situation. The women claim that they were just going to the beach, then this guy showed up and started yelling at them - what poor innocent victims they were to this big mean guy! By videotaping them (keep in mind that he had to consciously think to himself "I'm going to videotape this"), he points out that they were trying to pretend that …
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 05:32 PM
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As a person whose been caught getting into the wrong car before, I feel like I know the look. The thing that makes me think that isn't the case is her rage at being videotaped. That and that a car is understandable - someone else has the same model, it looks exactly the same. I can't imagine a scenario where you "accidentally" try to use someone else's beach stuff. If it wasn't for her getting pissed at being videotaped I could imagine that the guy taking the video could be some sort of con-arti…
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 05:23 PM
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If the people being recorded actually were not stealing, they might have been pissed and refused to leave - but they wouldn't have been so pissed off at being recorded.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 05:10 PM
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Don't agree with you at all, the fact that they were pissed off that they were being video taped says to me that they were behaving like a thief. Not to mention that they didn't know how to set up "their" structure, but that's more on the fence - regular people might have been pissed, but wouldn't get so upset over being videotaped.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 05:09 PM
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In the past, society used this because someone had to go off an fight wars, and as often pointed out one man could have many children while one woman could only have 1 child, so societies where men died in warfare survived better. Men's lives were considered less valuable than womens lives. This pattern is still true today, what's a bunch of b.s. that feminists try to pretend it's not true.
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 05:07 PM
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Many popular feminists were largely guilty of this with Elliot Rodger. They mentioned the women killed, and most did not mention that any men were killed even though the majority of people killed were men. And it wasn't a coincidence - the feminists do it deliberately - http://i.imgur.com/xJEGDPq.jpg "the gender of the victims is often mentioned as a way to subvert attention from misogyny" This was the feminist mainstream argument that I saw appear on my facebook feed as well - they know what th…
/r/TheRedPill06/07/14 04:52 PM
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EDIT: The whole free beer thing needs some explaining... we usually get a keg or something. So when they ask if they should bring anything, I just say, "No, we have a keg." This keeps sticking out to me. I wonder if their question is some sort of shit test itself. As in - low value guys provide free beer to try to get women to come to their parties. High value parties and guys require that people bring something because they can - because they're high value and they don't want to spend their own…
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 06:32 PM
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Promote the party as "Guys Only." When the women ask (and they will) why is it guys only say, 'We got tired of inviting the women and them not showing or being bitchy." Women feel compelled to invade male only spaces. That's not terribly affective - you're expressing bitterness (the least attractive emotion). The only way that works is if you convince them that you're all having a great time first. Saying "we got tired of the women being flaky" or something similar because you're having so much …
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 06:27 PM
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You cannot buy attraction with favours, kids. I feel like people get confused. You can sometimes reward behavior that you like with favors and it works well - the woman feels that what she did was right. You can sometimes use favors as an excuse to get together - "Gosh, I never thought coming over would lead to us having sex again!". But you cannot buy affection with favors.
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 06:21 PM
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P.S. A friend of mine who's better at game than I am had stuff like this happen to him a lot, but found that people in our social circles saying he was "just looking for sex" if anything seemed to help him get sex. Watch what girls do - they're always complaining about the guys they're sleeping with. The most and least successful guys have women saying crap about them to other people.
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 06:16 PM
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that means im "just looking for sex" It's rediculous, but also it's a Powertalk shaming phrase who's purpose is to selective shame whoever it wants based on the needs of the speaker. Women just looking for sex == "empowered". Men "just" looking for sex == fine if he meets whatever attraction criteria, bad if he doesn't. That's pretty crappy that your own friend undercuts you like that though.
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 06:11 PM
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Why does everyone get the impresion TRP is about getting laid? It's not, this subreddit is about self improvement in oneself, and really uncovering the truth about the fundamental differences between men and women. Well actually even the official bit on the subreddit says it has a focus on sexual strategy. What you're seeing is hyberpole or rhetoric. It pretends to not understand, or to ask a question, in order to make a statement that's difficult to challenge. In the same way that the CIA would…
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 05:55 PM
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P.S. If you're going to downvote, explain what the heck you're talking about. I'm not following what you're trying to say there.
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 09:57 AM
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Alpha literally just means "most attractive." And "attractive" is defined as whatever women want it to be. Groan. Whether you do it intentionally or not, you are part of the dumbing down and deluting of TheRedPill. When a new idea comes around, at first it's interesting and revolutionary. Then comes the progression where newcomers try to understand it, and they prefer simpler explanations so they dumb it down to a simpler form, removing the complexity that made it make sense and turning it into …
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 09:53 AM
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Girls in college, especially undergraduates, are NOT looking for providers. I guess, but many relationship-interested girls are in college. There's two times when I've seen the most long-term-to-marriage relationships start: The girl's freshman year of college. Not saying it's the first guy she starts sleeping with or dating, but it's usually within the first 1-3, and she's involved with him by the end of her freshman year. The girls last year of college or year immediately after college. xxxxxx…
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 08:53 AM
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I need The Red Pill because I need honesty in my life. Wow, that's the best sentence I've heard that sums it up.
/r/TheRedPill05/07/14 12:02 AM
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Technically, I think he means you can't logically convince your wife to want to fuck you.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/14 11:49 PM
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Cardio is for faggots who dont train hard enough. JK. I never cardio though, GOAT skinny genetics. I need my rest. ...wtf? Is reddit glitching out? How did this end up in a thread titled "College girls are not looking for providers" that has nothing to do with working out and doesn't mention cardio?
/r/TheRedPill04/07/14 11:32 PM
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Cultural "norms" or traditions doesn't equal reality. That makes no sense whatsoever. They're either part of current reality or they're not. Men are as gatekeepers of sex as women. No they aren't. If they were, women would actively pursue men in the same way and just as much as women pursue men. And that's not what happens. The problem here is that most people especially men think that women do not enjoy sex as much as men, which is a huge big ass bullshit and has nothing to do with reality. I d…
/r/TheRedPill04/07/14 06:43 AM
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Lol, I certainly agree that that is one of the many likely descriptions of the real situation.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/14 06:26 AM
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that's a misread - its impolite conversation, period. Not following what you're trying to say there.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/14 06:23 AM
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I didn't find them sleazy at all. They sound like every conversation ever on a Friday night at a bar at 2am. Lol, you say that like that someone makes it not skeezy...
/r/TheRedPill04/07/14 06:22 AM
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Women hate the idea that they aren't the ones doing the manipulating. Yes, and also, it's much easier to manipulate someone who believes they are not being manipulated than it is to manipulate someone who thinks they're being manipulated and is suspicious.
/r/TheRedPill04/07/14 06:19 AM
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Dead wrong. Alpha has always been about best genes. The whole dichotomy exists because alpha men spread their seed, as opposed to beta men who raise the alpha's children. Evolutionary psychology is completely based on that. Sure it is. If you don't shower, don't have any money, and dress in rags, but have good genes, women will be all over you because you're alpha, right? Because it's all about genes! (riiiiiiiiight) In human societies, genes are not top on the list, because they're not the most…
/r/TheRedPill04/07/14 06:17 AM
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Being alpha means having the best genes. (rolls eyes) Being alpha is about either social status or a drive to be successful. It has little or nothing to do with genes. Being attractive has something to do with genes. Being alpha is not very gene related. I've only ever hooked up with guys that I would consider to be a 10. Like the ones that look like movie stars, and my friends drool over, and i would never in a million years be good enough for Here's the thing about that - to refer to a phrase,…
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 07:44 AM
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A lot of times people accuse others of behaving how they behave. This is because: They assume that others think the same way they do. People who will resolve their differences with physical fighting will accuse others of starting a fight. People who will do it with social manipulation will accuse others of being socially manipulative. Liars will accuse the other party of lying. Etc. It puts the other party on the defensive, and makes it harder for the other party to point out what they are doing…
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 07:41 AM
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That's right, she left in the first 10 minute, said I was disgusting and yelled at me, she later apologized, but if it wasn't for trp teaching me this concept I would of dumped her in 2 seconds. You still might want to if you're looking for a long term girl. That's not a great sign for her long term viability.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 07:31 AM
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A while back, someone asked about what makes the difference between a hot woman you'd want as a plate vs a hot woman you'd be comfortable getting into a long term relationship with. This is one of those things.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 07:29 AM
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Actually, a dated a girl half my age when I met her out, invited her to do something, she wanted me to plan it, I came up with something but then I got food poisoning. I was sick and tired of always getting sick at just the wrong time, told her I was sick so I couldn't go out, but if she wanted she could come over. She came over, offered to make me soup, and at some point managed to get both of us into my bedroom and was lying on my bed "casually" talking about how she had never had sex (don't k…
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 07:26 AM
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That's more of a lesson about finding a better partner. Lol, I thought the same thing. This seems like what the difference is between a girl you should date and a girl to only keep as a plate. That's what the difference is.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 07:18 AM
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That's what I keep being amazed at. Wealthy upper middle class white (sometimes Asian) college educated American women talking about other people's "privileges." I've started to become very aware that often GroupA will attack GroupB by accusing GroupB of doing the negative things that GroupA is constantly doing.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 07:07 AM
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Interesting post. What I think of this completely depends on what's actually meant by "unofficial boyfriend". Most women don't "brag" about being with guys who won't commit in public forums - if she's a plate, I see no problem with her wanting to explore her other options while she still has her youth. On the other hand, most women don't "brag" about wanting to drop their actual boyfriend either, so it's just as likely he thinks they're dating and she's just changing the terminology to make it s…
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 12:34 AM
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And I think some people didn't like the skeeziness of the song, where he's trying to talk a "good girl" with a boyfriend into sleeping with him. I mean I feel the song lyrics are a little "skeezy", but skeezy != rape any more than my friend trying to talk me into giving him money == mugging.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 12:17 AM
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This apparently is a implication of rape vs him being aware of her latent desire. They got offended precisely because they don't like it when a man acknowledges or perceives a woman's sexual desire. In sex-hating feminism, anything that talks about or acknowledges sex or female desire is to be hated. Example: Try talking about how you had sex with your girlfriend last night in a mutual friend group while your girlfriend is there. For most girls, watch her get real uncomfortable simply discussing…
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 12:14 AM
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That last statement is pretty stupid, the psychology behind rape is about power not desire for sex. To semi-quote adam carolla, riiiiiiiiiight - it's just like all those other activities that "aren't about sex" but where I get off at the end.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 12:07 AM
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Just because the poster is gay, the content he is posting is not about the gay lifestyle specifically. So no, I don't think this post needs to be removed or relocated. Seriously. And personally, I think contrasting gay dating with straight dating belongs here as well - but this post doesn't even do that.
/r/TheRedPill03/07/14 12:04 AM
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The best conversation I've ever had about Redpill tactics (without actually talking about Redpill) was with a lesbian woman in her late 20s. This girl was brilliant when it came to gaming girls, it was very refreshing to hear realistic shit from a woman. Lol, you want to hear some so-called "misogyny"? Go to dinner around a bunch of gay women and bring up the topic of girls who want to "experiment" but are really straight. You've never seen such hatred and vitrol towards a group of girls...
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 11:56 PM
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I thought the bullying would happen ten fold now, but the opposite happened people started to respect me, even my bully wanted to be my friend. My Russian friend would say the same thing - almost never does one side really totally "win" the fight. Try to make sure you get at least 1 good hit in, and he'll think twice before trying to push you to far the next time.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 11:53 PM
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That sounds really irritating. Since I can't read your post I can't comment. They made some new "gay" sub, maybe they got overly lazy. Gay guys talking about women and comparing it to gay guy dating seems to me like it belongs here or there. Only gay guys talking specifically about dating other gay guys belongs there. Edit: I found that someone reposted your post. Wtf? This definitely should have been fine here.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 11:50 PM
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But you really have no idea, do you? The only information you really have on the guy is that he was 19 when he started dating a 15 year old. Where is any indication that he is even a "potential provider"? Yeah, and this highly depends on what "unofficially dating" means. It could be that they are dating, she just wants to make it sound better for what she wants. Or it could be that she's just one of his plates, and frankly it doesn't make sense for her to be exclusive and pass up opportunities t…
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 11:45 PM
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True, but to be fair, the reason it works as an excuse is that sometimes it's true. That's how plausible deniability works - there's a plausible situation out there that is exactly like that.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 11:43 PM
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I agree with most of what you wrote - a "I'm unnofficially dating someone" situation is far different than a "I'm in love with him and we're officially dating, but, uh, I'd like to screw around with other guys".
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 11:41 PM
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I don't think that would work for any women unless she grew up with parents that were like that. To put your wife below your mission is to put her opinion below what makes you valuable to her. While she complains about it, it's like how your boss puts your needs below making money. Would you work there if there was no paycheck? No, you would not. Would you put up with a more domineering boss if you made a lot more money? Yes you would. Likewise, your wife being below your mission just means that…
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 11:36 PM
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I mostly agree with you. I don't think "all women" are cold calculating schemers. I think a few are, but most are like men - I don't think to myself "I'm going to be attracted to her because she has better genetics and more healthy baby making potential". It still might be a large part of the basis for what causes attraction for me though.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 11:22 PM
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Instead the career driven women are cutting themselves off from us; by waiting so long to attempt a relationship that their desirability as a long term mate has declined. And we have other options. And an important part of it is based on non-disputed biology that we cannot change - while one could debate the attractiveness of 18 vs 21, when a woman reaches 30-40 she biologically has less of a chance of getting pregnant, and more of a chance of her children having genetic/biological issues and dr…
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 11:07 PM
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I disagree with you, if there's a lack of new good content, then preventing old but good posts is to mean the forum is filled with new but crappy posts. New + Good > Old + Good > New + Crappy > Old + Crappy
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 11:04 PM
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That's because she is psychopath CEO usually equals sociopath/phsychopath Edit: You know, that's really really interesting. The series of articles on The Gervais Principle - http://www.ribbonfarm.com/the-gervais-principle/ Use "The Office" to describe how Sociopaths are at the top and run most corporations, organizations, etc. (He says sociopaths give up happiness when they become sociopaths, that's why so many people become sociopaths.) If this is accurate, isn't encouraging more women to be CE…
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 10:58 PM
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If you find someone who commits to a relationship with you early, and she also supports the marriage financially, how can you justify cheating on her? I don't think he was recommending you do what he said, I think he was reversing the gender to point out how obnoxious and machevellian the advice was.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 10:57 PM
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Lol, exactly. If it was really "oppression", and they were really the caring people they claim to be, they wouldn't be doing it. It's because whoever is the initiator desires looks, and whoever is the gatekeeper desires actions. 80's and 90's feminism tried to turn women into taking the male role. The result is not "freedom from oppression", it's simply that women growing up in a feminist household where they were given the more male role now desire the same things the men who feminists tried to…
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 10:48 PM
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What's interesting is that I think the goal for her after just getting people to read her articles, is to convince herself.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 10:42 PM
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Elliot Rodgers is a great example of how vapid, uncaring, and manipulative feminism is though. Who else takes a situation where a man kills 5 men and 2 women, first tries to remove the male victims from the story, then tries to keep anyone from talking about it by using a tragedy to narcissistically ramble on about themselves? (YesAllWomen!) Let's say a racist white man ranted on about his hatred of everything, including blacks. He went out saying he was going to kill those who offended him, and…
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 10:22 PM
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Not really, though it was made for people exactly like her. I would say it's made for the men who at some point were deluded by people exactly like her about how women and dating works.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 10:14 PM
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The keyword is "appreciate". I've no doubt she does appreciate her husband. Ever heard or read "I value our friendship where you do stuff for me and I do little for you, to much to ruin it with dating?".
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 10:13 PM
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but that completely ignored the reality of what I wrote: I appreciate my husband because we're partners. Note what she did not say: "I love my husband." I was going to write a post on the same thing. "I really appreciate you" is not a phrase that means "I find you incredibly sexy and want to do you right now" in Game. It's pretty much the opposite - it what girls say to you when turning you down and friend zoning you. Even "I love my husband" is different than "I'm in love with my husband". And …
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 10:09 PM
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I'd hazard a guess she doesn't even believe half of what she writes anyway, its written in that - every sentence is a sensationalist hook type style. Which usually indicates that the individual lacks the ability, or more likely knowledge to do anything other than regurgitate exactly what they know the reader base wants to see by giving generalizations and painting them as a matter of fact validated opinion on behalf of the organization they are trying to represent. Yeah, I know of another author…
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 10:02 PM
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But that completely ignores the reality of what I wrote: I appreciate my husband because we’re partners. What's funny is that does actually sound technically accurate with TRP theory. "appreciate" is side way of saying "...but no, I'm not as sexually attracted to him as I was to the numerous other guys...". It's like "he had a nice personality".
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 09:57 PM
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We'd make the sub private before allowing it to devolve into BS. Don't fret. That's just a very slightly less bad solution. Shutting it down is only slightly worse than hiding it.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 09:53 PM
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"It's not paranoia if they really are trying to kill you"?
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 09:51 PM
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Too many. Part of me thinks that's their entire strategy. To dilute this place and try and turn it into a 'movement'. I agree with you. It's the difference between "beta bucks alpha fucks" - a fairly accurate statement that's offensive to feminists and some women. Vs "all women only want good looking rich guys", an apparently offensive statement to feminists and some women, but it's the opposite of trp theory, and frankly real life. I mean if Elliot Rodgers didn't prove this wasn't true, I'm not…
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 09:48 PM
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"I totally didn't sleep around with all those attractive men while I was young and then settle for a less attractive provider once I noticed I couldn't pull Alpha cock as reliably anymore even though I totally did exactly that! Cluck Cluck! Patriarchy!" The irony here is that her motivation is probably lying to herself even more than lying to others. How is she going to stay attracted to her husband if she actually viewed him herself as a runner up, a fallback choice? Her first audience isn't ev…
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 09:31 PM
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Which gender is it that pretty much always approaches first in dating? (If a woman approached you, did she think "this is about dating" or did she later go "dating or sex was the furthest thing from my mind when I talked to you")? It's usually the man - because it's the woman who "gatekeeps" and decides if she wants to keep talking, go out with you, etc or not. Which gender is it that pretty much always expected to make the first physical move in dating to make it clear it's sexual? Its the man …
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 09:28 PM
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"sex is something that men must get from women" This is a great sign that you if you don't know why things aren't working out for you, you should listen to the speaker and find out everything that they find appalling or disgusting regarding sex or dating. Then - realize that doing those things in the right way is what it is to be successful at sex or dating, because they are literally complaining about what is successful in sex and dating.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 09:13 PM
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Yeah. Modern feminism works by putting a "we're trying to make everything more equal!" face and appearance on something that behind that is designed only to give more power to women. See "the patriarchy", supposed "rape culture", or Elliot Rodgers where they carefully removed the majority of male victims from the story to create a "man bad, women victimized" appearance.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 09:09 PM
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I'm glad that, at the very least, she learned this basic fact from reading this sub, though she labels it a "toxic belief" rather than "reality". Women are raised to be the gatekeepers of sex. In that role, they are raised to discourage, prolong, or even outright deny that sexual and romantic things are sexual or romantic. If you want a politically correct viewpoint on this, just watch The Big Bang Theory, and how Penny expresses disgust or discomfort at talk of sex, the number of guys she's bee…
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 09:06 PM
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Lol, I grew up in the 80's and 90's. Feminists went on and on and on about how women were "objectified" based on their looks. When I meet their female children now who grew up in a feminist household, what do they want? Shirtless, ripped abs, Ryan Gosling.
/r/TheRedPill02/07/14 06:29 PM
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Read John Stuart Mill's Subjection of Women. He makes a pretty convincing case that women, historically, have been treated like (or worse) than slaves, and have lacked the legal means to escape marriage (which was often arranged by her father, or against her will). I opened the link, but it's huge, and I don't have the time to read through the entire thing. I imagine it follows the typical route - taking a situation where all average men and women were victimized, and carefully only talking abou…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/14 10:44 PM
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The Red Pill often comes off as strictly anti-feminist, but I don't think that's how many RP members feel. The problem is that mainstream feminism confuses equality for being identical. Equal =! Identical. Men and women are very different. TheRedPill is not antiwoman, but it is anti-feminist. At it's best, feminism is one sided. A bunch of genuinely well meaning women trying to make people equal, but always promoted female interests and understanding above male. This would not necessarily be bad…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/14 10:40 PM
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For the record, you should all read up on Borderline Personality Disorder - it is, IMO, female psychopathy and the hilarious victim mindset/apologetics surrounding the abusive behaviour of these women is the only reason why they're not exposed as explicit female psychopaths. Any suggestions on where to read up on it? I've read about it on TheRawness.com, but haven't seen much elsewhere. Would be willing to buy a book or such if you thought something was good. What I find interesting in modern si…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/14 10:00 PM
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True, it's one of the shaming phrases that makes you sound bad while being vague enough that it can mean anything. They do want to be treated like human - because it's so ambiguous it just means whatever they want it to mean. Holding a door for a woman can be "treating her like a human being", or it can be a demeaning act that's "not treating her like a human being", depending on the needs of the speaker.
/r/TheRedPill01/07/14 07:32 PM
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This is because on an emotional level, nobody likes a doormat. In relationships, men take the lead role and women take the follow role. Just look at who approaches, who asks who out, etc - the man leads, the woman follows. (And the man is looking for a good follow, the following role is not inferior just different, just like your boss is not inherently superior to you.) Thing is, a doormat is tolerable when you're the lead (or at least an equal not the follow). The doormat might follow you, or t…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/14 04:48 PM
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Nicholas Sparks is a friekin' genuis. Have you seen his movies? It's like a non-stop parade of Game and Red Pill behavior. At the start of The Notebook, the guy runs into the girl when she's on a date with another guy, blatantly hits on her in front of him (to the point of treating him like he doesn't exist), climbs the ferris wheel like a psychopath and won't stop harrassing (I mean...uh, pursusing, because she likes it I guess?) her until she agrees to go on a date with him. Even the sappy rom…
/r/TheRedPill01/07/14 04:21 PM
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Yes but that is in AMERICA where the black population was brought here on slave ships and suffered under the oppression of an existing power structure and is still a MINORITY. But my retort - Nelson Mandela, Genghis Khan, Ghandi - All not white. Within non-white countries there are leaders who are just as much the equals of white leaders. Yeah, was going to post a similar thing - the difference is that if you go to a country where they are the majority population, you see them in those roles. A …
/r/TheRedPill01/07/14 07:40 AM
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It uses standard markdown AFAIK. It's not hard to use. It's not hard to use an editor that simply displays what you wrote, but instead reddit uses an editor that's more difficult and annoying to use than that. It's not hard to use an editor that treats a line break like a line break, numbers and periods like numbers and periods, etc, rather than bizarrely translating 2 spaces as line breaks and line breaks as nothing.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 05:14 PM
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Corporations are people.... just people that don't have to obey the law. Corporations are becoming what feminists want women to be treated as - all the rights of a person, but none of the responsibilities and drawbacks - you can't send a corporation to jail. One of the major points of incorporating is to protect individuals from personal responsibility from business decisions from debt to being personally responsible for death or injury that happens as a result of the corporations actions. sigh.
/r/MensRights30/06/14 04:38 PM
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I don't know about approaching because I don't do that yet, but I found TRP when I was 16 and I'm nearly 18, been going to the gym hard for like 6 months now and honestly I still haven't gotten any results, even with an RP mindset, just because I'm not in the right social circles. Thanks for posting. The bro lifting crowd gets a little crazy, I'm not sure why they'e always putting so much effort into trying to convince everyone that if you lift women will magically drop into your lap. It's good …
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 03:25 PM
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It's such a great time to be alive, if you are a man. Just reading this makes me wish I was 16, had found TRP, and was already into weightlifting, dressing up, and approaching. You can live like a king with very little effort. Ok...to be fair here, this sounds like a bit of apex fallacy. In these stories girls describe sleeping with "men". In reality the odds are good they're all only sleeping with the top 20% of men, and those guys are probably more than just getting into shape, dressing up, an…
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 03:19 PM
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I don't see an argument from you here, I said that it was her backup plan to hold onto a guy. That would lead exactly to her trying to do this to an alpha that she realizes that she cannot exclusively hold onto - presidents, al capone, etc. Once it becomes apparent she cannot get him to give her exclusive access, her back plan to try to make him into something that won't move onto other women because he can't.
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 02:51 AM
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But Leonard? Besides his mommy issues, he's a low-SMV beta who finally caught his Oneitis, and would literally walk through fire to keep her happy. That's exactly what I mean. Seems like most of the complaints were "Leonard is acting beta, I don't like that because I'm supposed to like him".
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 02:33 AM
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That's not what they are getting at, at all. They want a woman to be able to make decisions about sex without feeling pressured that if she says no there will be violence. It would be like me asking you for money while brandishing a weapon. I never "robbed you", you consented to it. That's not true, because whenever someone asks them to use more precise terminology "some men" "certain men" anything other than "men" they have a fit. If that was really what things where about, they could easily ge…
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 02:29 AM
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Yeah, I don't believe the core of feminism has good intentions either. Everything in the core theories is a non-stop string of carefully crafted stories to villanize men. What do you do when you want to villanize a group? You emphasis stories of where people in that group did something bad, you remove mentions of anything good they did or anything bad that happened to them, for the other non-villian group you remove any mentions of things they did bad so you only tell stories of how they were vi…
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 02:16 AM
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Ultimately the only way to maintain the integrity of a space is to keep women out of it. You know, I've had many female coworkers. I've never known the girls I actually work with to be a problem here. As is typical, they're usually not the smartest people in the group - and they're also not the dumbest. I kinda prefer working with them, because I know I'm not going to have to spend 45 minutes arguing with some moron who read on the internet that using this new framework is going to make things f…
/r/TheRedPill30/06/14 12:22 AM
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Be more selfish dude. Do you know how many people in other professions get married or get laid via women at work? Sometimes it's a girl at their job, sometimes it's someone she introduces them to, sometimes it's just interacting with women on a daily basis so you it's a totally normal thing when you talk to a woman elsewhere.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/14 11:34 PM
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Many women refuse to live up to a shadow of their potential, because evolutionarily speaking, they live life on easy street. I don't live in the UK, I live in the US, so what I'm saying might not apply quite as much to your country. Here, women don't get into computer science because they don't want to. A few reasons come to mind: Women have spent a lot of time bashing and making negative anyone who's a nerd or geek. It doesn't appeal to them to join a group that they've given low social status.…
/r/TheRedPill29/06/14 11:32 PM
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Yeah, was going to write the same thing. There are some countries where everyone is screwed over, but usually when feminism highlights bad things happening to women they are carefully avoiding talking about the equally bad things happening to men there as well.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/14 11:14 PM
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Jerry's more alpha status and better looks means that he doesn't have to work as hard with women. What's interesting about George though is that he has better Game. He has a worse inherent position - balding, not alpha as no one wants to follow him, but he's still successful with women by making up for it with Game.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/14 02:07 AM
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Once introduced to the concept by trp, I just cannot believe how much women will refuse to act unless they can get validation from you that they're right. Validate their feelings that something is wrong, and they will run you over on their way out the door. "Asshole". Or even "Thanks for being such a great guy as I dump your ass". Refuse to validate their feelings while letting them know they can make the decision to leave if they want, and they will sit and spin forever. They really, really don…
/r/TheRedPill29/06/14 02:00 AM
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So, we're talking about women by using a reference to a concept/idea/simile. We are not literally calling women plates. Yeah, "plate" describes a type of relationship with a woman, it's not a word referring to a woman.
/r/TheRedPill29/06/14 01:33 AM
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As much as I'd like to agree with this post, I just do not. As other people said that's great advice for women, but not men. A number of other posters have posted studies on facial expressions that just going "I don't like it so it's not true!" isn't changing. It's true that those studies don't disprove it completely, but neither are they unrelated. But just take a look at the latest "convict is sexy" pic - http://cbsmix965houston.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/sexy-convict.jpg?w=587&h=349&crop=1 O…
/r/TheRedPill29/06/14 01:31 AM
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Edit: fuck formatting. Seriously, could reddit just use a normal formatting system where line breaks end up as line breaks, numbers end up as numbers, dashes are dashes, etc? Spend far more time trying to get normal posts to look normal than I do trying to make anything look special.
/r/TheRedPill28/06/14 11:53 PM
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I would file this under definite maybe. It's something that has to be read. Some women are OK with knowing who else you're dealing with, and others are not. It's something you have to play by ear. Yeah - and some girls if they think you want a relationship will try to push you away, whereas if you "just" want sex they're actually more comfortable with you (as long as the attraction is there of course).
/r/TheRedPill28/06/14 11:46 PM
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No perfect terminology for it has been developed. "shit test" originally came from girls actually giving you shit to test you. Like a girl asking you to hold her purse, if you did you failed, if you wouldn't do it you passed. Or she'd say something nasty to you, if you didn't put up with it you passed, if you put up with it is suggested you were low status and used to being insulted. It's true that not all tests are shit tests, but I haven't seen commonly used phrasing that figures it out yet.
/r/TheRedPill28/06/14 12:48 AM
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Love women for what they are. Society (or genetics, depending on who you believe) trains women to retain more childlike qualities than men on the whole, so that one parent relates more closely to how the child perceives the world. Feminist like to say that it's offensive to say that you treat women like children, but that completely ignores that we love our children. If I had kids, they would be way more important to me that my boss or coworkers.
/r/TheRedPill28/06/14 12:34 AM
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Feminism has been doing this for a long time - having at it's core misandrist ideas, then pointing at well meaning women who repeat them and going "Look! Here are some well meaning feminists! See, they don't hate anyone! Just ignore that they're repeating horribly sexist things about men with a smile on their face and the plausible deniability of 'well it could be interpreted in a way that makes sense'". I know some genuinely well meaning feminists. Thing is, they still repeat the absolutely awf…
/r/TheRedPill28/06/14 12:31 AM
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Totally agree with you, I was going to write the same thing. But here's what I find interesting - she claims she helps another woman and gets gratitude. Is this somewhat of a male/female difference - that as a woman, she doesn't understand why men don't help her because she actually gets an emotional reward out of someone else thanking her? Or is this just more of a social manipulation - claim she would do it an enjoy it as social persuasion tactic?
/r/TheRedPill27/06/14 11:39 PM
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Lol, yes, clearly you continue to argue with me about a topic we're pretty much agreeing on because you don't care what people on the internet think... If you actually read my post, rather than continuing what is an personal (the problem is not that it's emotional, it's that you've tried to reframe something that not person into being a personal emotional attack) reaction to your perception I was saying something personally about you, you'd notice this is what I wrote - I'm not sure it's quite a…
/r/TheRedPill27/06/14 09:42 PM
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I suppose we're just going to continue to disagree on the assumptions made around the post. Like I said, I would agree with you if the OP's situation was more like "everything is pretty good except for the weight problem and now I'm not attracted to her". It just doesn't sound like that scenario to me. You seem to be thinking of "I'm married, and I want my wife to lose weight". Your response makes sense in that context. I'm thinking of a totally different scenario - the girls true colors are tha…
/r/TheRedPill27/06/14 09:05 PM
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I like this, you have something there. It makes me think of Esther Vilar's ''the manipulated man'' where she claims that women let the men do all the hard work and ''decisions'' while they can rest and enjoy the benefits. Right - that's exactly the role I'm talking about. The follow gets the benefits from the success of the lead, but gets to sit back and only take on the relatively safe and straightforward tasks, leaving the difficult and dangerous tasks to the lead to do. It's a dynamic you'll …
/r/TheRedPill27/06/14 08:54 PM
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I like that -- leading vs. allowing yourself to be influenced. Reminds me a little bit like LTR game: you deliberately inject some beta into your behavior so the woman is able to calm the hell down and feel some measure of relationship security. In other words, the alpha/beta behavior balance. Right, that's one way to look at it. The way I'm looking at it right now that I personally relate to is like having a boss. My old boss was a fairly smart guy. My new boss rolls over the moment any other d…
/r/TheRedPill27/06/14 08:45 PM
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Yeah, but I think TRP is not worrying about how something "makes you look". That's the social game that feminists play in order to meet their own goals - making having a rational discussion on a topic always "look" bad for discussing it. When feminists forums write that the only way to keep men from raping is to lock all men up in jails, does someone say "we shouldn't say stuff like this because it makes us look bad"? They don't, in fact, they seem to get upvoted. I find the above statement accu…
/r/TheRedPill27/06/14 08:13 PM
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Because feminism has redefined misogynistic as 'anything women don't like'... Exactly. Do a search for "Big Bang Theory Misogynistic" and you'll run across article after article claims to be about "misogyny" but it's clear reading them that the examples have nothing to do with "hating women", and everything to do with the author saying they don't like some character or something a character did that was not "hating" women at all, often the comments center around Leonard Hofstadter - could there …
/r/TheRedPill27/06/14 07:59 PM
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I'm a little torn on posting this kind of stuff as a link - the author writes this crap because it gets pageviews, and simply sharing something means it gets more pageviews. Isn't there some way to handle this?
/r/TheRedPill27/06/14 07:42 PM
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I doubt Nerdlove would've given the same response if the genders were flipped. I used to read the site when I was more nieve. The author started off posting some articles on both sides, then quickly found that he would get the most pageviews by always writing: 1. How nerds suck. His articles usually start off with dissing nerds and saying they "have a problem with women" 2. Repeating feminist mantra about how women are victims, have it harder than men, and men are the problem by default. The rea…
/r/TheRedPill27/06/14 07:39 PM
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They disgust me more on a visceral level than anything these days. Me to, feminism in it's current form (I kinda like the old form that was one sided, but did care about equality) it pretty bad. But at least I can understand the selfish desire to increase your own groups power. That author is not only spreading bullshit, but he's actively hurting his own side in doing it. It's like being stabbed by a stranger vs being stabbed by a family member - they both suck, but the family member adds in the…
/r/TheRedPill27/06/14 07:29 PM
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I'm the she. My dad's a piece of shit. He is a sad excuse for a human being and has ruined many many lives to put it lightly. He works in the government and is as corrupt as one could be, and on top if that he is a horrible dad who was absent my entire childhood and has come back and been nothing but a dick since then. You can't make the assumption that just because a woman doesn't have a good relationship with her dad, that it is her fault. Let's see if I can recount this exchange: 1. I incorre…
/r/TheRedPill27/06/14 09:14 AM
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George Orwell's Animal Farm - "The Seven Commandments are abridged to a single phrase: "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others". "
/r/TheRedPill27/06/14 08:59 AM
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Feminism is about increasing female power (though not necessarily female happiness). Women - especially in dating - take the follow role. They usually don't do things themselves, they get a lead to do most of the work for them. It's lead-power vs follow-power. In this case the lead is the government. The anger is not really about other women coming forward with legitimate claims, it's about that women's power to get someone else to inflict violence on a man might be diminished. The anger is that…
/r/TheRedPill27/06/14 08:57 AM
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They've got a lot of "funny" stories. I think the quotes were needed, lol...well, it's not really so funny.
/r/MensRights27/06/14 08:37 AM
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You pretty much repeated yourself, your reasoning is that it's ok to jail people any time they do anything that's inconvenient for the government. What kind of government is that - Facism? Totalitarianism?
/r/MensRights27/06/14 08:35 AM
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but a girl showing excessive skin is only doing it for one reason. The reason is attention. She wants attention. It might be sexual attention, it might not. I'm just I think it's normal for your brain to be confused in the "middle of puberty" stage. It's like if you're supposed to cook a pizza for 12 minutes in the oven. It might be fine at 10 minutes, but you're not 100% sure. Whereas at 12 minutes, you're sure it's done. Again, the word was "uncomfortable" not "morally wrong". When I got to co…
/r/TheRedPill27/06/14 01:37 AM
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Most of them are, but some aren't. To be clear, I'm just saying I think it's normal either way - uncomfortable or not uncomfortable. At 14 they a lot of them haven't hit that "fully mature" point yet, whereas at 16 they have. The word is "uncomfortable" not "horrifically wrong" - I think it's normal for the brain to be a little confused in the "hitting puberty but not quite done with it yet" phase.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/14 01:23 AM
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he needs to learn dread game. if he had actually worked out & lost weight, she would follow because she would dread getting dumped. instead he just dumped her. You can't say that she "would" have followed, she might have followed. The question is whether it was worth the effort for him. There's a difference between "she doesn't want to work out" vs "she doesn't want to work out, she doesn't want to have friends, she doesn't want to do anything, she's always undercutting my attempts to have a mor…
/r/TheRedPill27/06/14 01:12 AM
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Cool. It's just coming from the Left in this case because that's who has appropriated the Feminists. And as a liberal and someone on the left, this pisses me off to no end. I also have no problem saying there's a bunch of bullshit on the left, like I said, I jsut don't find it to be a one-side issue.
/r/TheRedPill27/06/14 12:43 AM
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The problem is the culture of femininity and it's grasp on women and their perceptions, not masculinity. This is why modern feminism is not even actually helping women - it's refusal to ever tackle how many of women's problems are the result of how women treat other women. Wanna know why women react positively to men being assholes? One of the several reasons is that's how they've been treated by other women since childhood.
/r/MensRights27/06/14 12:41 AM
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The way that social persuasion works is, you take a story that's happened somewhere, and then repeat it over and over again until you've convinced your audience that that is the norm, rather than the exception. It's like taking this story - http://www.wfsb.com/story/24589635/parents-of-baby-allegedly-killed-by-babysitter-arrested And then saying "See? If you let a woman babysit your child, she'll kill the child! Woman taking care of children are dangerous!"
/r/MensRights27/06/14 12:38 AM
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It sounds like you're being serious. If so, that's an excuse, not a reason. If you actually read the article it sounds even more ridiculous. Apparently his employer made the mistake, he was paying child support but they weren't actually sending it, when he found this out he started paying more. The actual story is even further beyond rediculous than the title suggests.
/r/MensRights27/06/14 12:28 AM
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This is a good list. I'd say from myself: 1. On an alpha/beta/gamma/omega continum, how does she respond to beta behavior from you? Things like being supportive. If she's appalled and disgusted, she's not good long term material. If you're going to have kids you're going to have a lot of beta moments because it's part of raising kids. It's fine if she finds it neutral. Or a lot of women will find it to be something they like, as long as there's not to much of it. A "always be more alpha than bet…
/r/TheRedPill27/06/14 12:00 AM
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That sounds great in theory, but in reality I've also observed that the girls with a 1-3 partner count are the ones who stay in relationships and seem happy in them again and again. I can think a a multitude of girls with low partner counts that have stayed in long term relationships and seem happy in them, while I can only think of 1 girl with a high partner count who is in a long term relationship and seems to like it (and she doesn't want to have kids). It has to do with what makes them happy…
/r/TheRedPill26/06/14 11:15 PM
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Your switching up genders and it isn't the same. A women's relationship with her dad is the corrolary to a man's relationship with his mother. It's about looking at their relationship with the opposite-gender parent, that usually has a big influence on how they deal with everyone of the opposite gender. I'm not sure it's quite as make-or-break as it's sometimes made out to be, but it's an indicator. If she hates her dad, imo, it's a tough call. It can be that she broke away from it, or it can be…
/r/TheRedPill26/06/14 11:09 PM
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Why do women actively ball-bust and immasculate their boyfriends and husbands? Because it secures their male's long-term commitment by reducing his options. Good post. This is true, but I think it's also important to keep in mind that this is not the ideal thing for women to do. I think it's more the "plan b" option - she couldn't get the primarily alpha / secondary beta guy she wanted, so she falls back on "well I'll just make sure he can't date anyone else in order to hold onto him then". Wome…
/r/TheRedPill26/06/14 11:00 PM
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Dang, I was hoping this article was going to give advice on how to use your own smartphone to get rid of female-friend-cockblockers. There's gotta be a way...
/r/TheRedPill26/06/14 10:30 PM
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Though, the 'like a child' comment at the end seemed a bit harsh. In that example he clearly established the level of respect he expected and when the female in question complied, it seemed as though it was more of a show of that respect, rather than compliance for fear of being disrespectful or rejected from that area. I agree with you, though there were plenty of other areas where he used that terminology that felt accurate. How long has it been since you've been around children? My buddy got …
/r/TheRedPill26/06/14 10:18 PM
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Lol, I don't know, one a purely selfish level I'm fine with these commercials. I mean it's funny that they're trying to say that "oppression" is "how society cares more about female safety than male safety", but it would be kinda cool for women to think that they "should" get into computers and engineering, and be able to say "I write software" and have girls feel like they're supposed to think that's cool, haha. Is it really against our own interests to equalize how society cares more about wom…
/r/TheRedPill26/06/14 09:58 PM
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Lol, I know, that's what I was saying when the story broke to.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/14 09:44 PM
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(rolls eyes) Could we please keep the political hamstering out of this sub? What you're describing is how political groups work, not something exclusive to one side or the other. All that's happened is the right has taken to using the same tactics just even more strongly than the left. Let me know how well I'll be received at a Tea Party event if I walk in and announce that I'm against the government interferring in a woman getting an abortion. I'm sure they won't jump to any conclusions, right?…
/r/TheRedPill26/06/14 09:42 PM
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Occasionally, some racists / white supremacists / Nazis / trolls / scumfucks post or comment here . . . . Just like every other sub! And they get downvoted into oblivion usually. :-)
/r/TheRedPill26/06/14 09:28 PM
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We do like facts, and facts show that racism is not good for the betterment of our societies anymore (it may have been in the past, we 'll never know). What's interesting is how in America before WWI and WWII there was still a fair amount of anti-semitism. WWII came around, and the Nazi's hated on jewish people. Albert Einstein - a jewish German citizen - came to America, where he contributed greatly and was part of developing the atomic bomb that ended WWII (though technically with Japan, not G…
/r/TheRedPill26/06/14 09:27 PM
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That's true of all heroic historical figures, every one of them. The founding fathers owned slaves and had some nasty opinions as well. Henry Ford was a rabid anti-semite to the point of not really wanting to help the american government against the nazi's. Society takes semi-heroic figures and whitewashes their history for it's own uses of choosing how it depicts heroes vs villans. Difference is, Martin Luther King Jr did actually face personal danger for being the figurehead of black rights, a…
/r/TheRedPill26/06/14 09:22 PM
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A study given to 80% chinese or black women would probably yield a different result. That could be, but on online profiles the only two groups I see girls actively writing "will not date this ethnicity" is asian men and indian men (usually the girl writing it is either asian or indian herself).
/r/TheRedPill26/06/14 09:02 PM
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They assume everyone here is a white misogynist piece of shit That's because "misogynist" is a word they've redefined to mean "anyone doing something a woman doesn't like". The last piece I read that used the word was trying to claim that Leonard Hofstadter from The Big Bang Theory was misogynist, then listed out a whole bunch of examples of him acting beta. Seriously.
/r/TheRedPill26/06/14 08:58 PM
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The broader description is that the goal of feminism is to increase female power (but not happiness). One manifestation of that as you quoted - is to do so by removing all constraints on female sexuality while maximally restricting male sexuality. At first glance this gives women the maximum power in sexual relationships. The problem with this is that women continue to prefer to remain in the follow role. And in the follow role, one ends up with two competing objectives: 1. To follow a valuable …
/r/TheRedPill26/06/14 08:46 PM
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I upvoted your post because I've seen it work many times. I might call it a lie of ommission, or just "don't say negative things and let others make the assumptions they want to make". Even for the moral person who doesn't want to lie, you have to do a little of this, whether it's girls, socializing with people you just met, or interviewing for a job. I used to think it was lying, but the more I understand of social interactions the more I don't - I used to get by by being nieve for the same eff…
/r/TheRedPill26/06/14 08:14 PM
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I'm convinced that it's essentially that. Men are entitled? No, women are - for good reasons, because they're highly valued for just being female. The entitlement is founded in reality - and that's why women being demure is attractive. So then feminism says that women should be 'bossy'.. etc. I agree with most of this, but it goes off onto another subject. Mainly that the reason feminist articles often "resonate" with women is because they're using the man as an excuse to talk about what they ha…
/r/TheRedPill25/06/14 09:03 PM
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Your initial revulsion to the idea is programming. A majority of your ancestors were under 18 when they procreated. I disagree, I think the revulsion towards a 14 year old girl is normal, whereas 16-18 is programming.
/r/TheRedPill25/06/14 08:42 PM
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False, male sexuality does not grow inappropriate with age. I don't think that's exactly true, I think it's a normal biological function to not be attracted to girls who are to young to have children, and for the brain to feel confused/uncomfortable around girls who have hit the "just hitting puberty but not really there yet" stage. It's basic biology - for the most part animals (including humans) don't sleep with each other when they're to young to physically handle having children of their own…
/r/TheRedPill25/06/14 08:42 PM
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From the post - I suggested some sutle lifestyle changes that she completely rejected. Told her I wanted to get back into gym life and she should join me for health reasons, I was actually told this "Why can't we just be fat?" It sounds from the post like this was one of many issues and this was the last straw.
/r/TheRedPill25/06/14 05:56 PM
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Read the post dude - I suggested some sutle lifestyle changes that she completely rejected. Told her I wanted to get back into gym life and she should join me for health reasons, I was actually told this "Why can't we just be fat?" I see where you're coming from with what you're saying, but that doesn't work with girls who actually say stuff like "Why can't we just be fat?", in my opinion. The OP mentions it was the "final straw" - I do assume that this was not the only issue.
/r/TheRedPill25/06/14 05:53 PM
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Nobody had seen me for months, and then suddenly I had two attractive girls that night talking to me and touching me. I didn't even have to try. I just stood there. That's how easy it becomes. Did you sleep with them that night, or the same girls later?
/r/TheRedPill25/06/14 12:29 AM
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Great post, and that's similar to what I've experienced as well.
/r/TheRedPill25/06/14 12:26 AM
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(rolls eyes) Really? You cut out the important part of the quote? But let's be honest, you won't see guys who look like models friend zoned, not initially, if they will go full beta mode a female will eventually despise them but she will get fucked earlier. The other poster is claiming that Good Looking + Beta == still have sex. My post is - that's a bunch of crap, they'll still friend zone you without sleeping with you if you act Beta. Good Looking + Alpha Game > Average Looking + Alpha Game > …
/r/TheRedPill25/06/14 12:20 AM
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Lol, exactly. I've started noticing that feminism is just a giant derailment: - Take something that's effective in sex and dating - Try to convince people it's bad, not true, offensive to do it, etc It's kind of a great source of game advice if you take it and try doing the opposite of what they're claiming you should do...
/r/TheRedPill25/06/14 12:10 AM
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I also know several girls in my circle of friends that admit women do it far more than men. I don't think you'd use the word "admit" if it was "general knowledge" like you're claiming. One doesn't "admit" that men are more likely to be firefighters, because it's an uncontested fact. Your female friends "admit" that women do it far more than men because someone has been trying to insist that that's not the case to begin with.
/r/TheRedPill25/06/14 12:06 AM
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Eh, I've said it before and I'll say it again - I've just found that working with men or working with women is different but I haven't found either one to be superior to the other. Men - Advantage more of a focus on getting things done. Disadvantage - to easy for it to turn into a sweatshop with long hours and being miserable. Women - Advantage, a more emotionally positive work environment and less of a chance of it turning into a sweatshop. If they're attractive women, a more socially normal en…
/r/TheRedPill24/06/14 11:42 PM
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Feminism is funny, because after it's decided that a women's opinion can never be wrong, it finds itself in an amusing quandry: - Trying to cater to the sex-shaming half of the female population - Trying to cater to the deeply narcissistic and coercive half of the female population Personally, I think the article is probably right, it's just that it just it does the usual feminist bit of "replace anything that's bad with 'men' and anything that's good with 'women' regardless of reality". Even th…
/r/TheRedPill24/06/14 11:28 PM
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I agree wholeheartedly with the message, the ability to criticise myself objectively is one of the most useful things I've learned here. Agreed, however, another point is to be able to keep a wall between externally seen critisism and internally noticed critisism. You should always be able to look at yourself and track what's worked and what hasn't. How your actions and attitude affect your actual result. On the other hand, you need the ability to read your situation and decide to express or not…
/r/TheRedPill24/06/14 10:54 PM
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It's called slut-shaming. The articles on slut-shaming all pretend that it's something "men" do. They'll get angry, pissed off, and insist that it's a "man" thing. The point is that it's mainly women who slut shame other women, men are barely involved in it happening at all.
/r/TheRedPill24/06/14 10:43 PM
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I think this misses the mark. As "soulracer" alluded to, there's a difference between male confidence and female confidence. There's a lot of things women do to be "confident" that are unnattractive: Sociopathic/narcissistic control-freak confidence - women find this attractive in a man, but men mostly don't find it attractive in a woman. The well-off sociopathic/narcissistic man in particular doesn't like being undermined and controlled by the woman - that's what he does, he doesn't want compet…
/r/TheRedPill23/06/14 10:18 PM
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I've actually gained no confidence at all through working out. PERSONALLY, I don't feel it matters quite as much as TRP emphasizes, I agree with you and found something similar. Frankly, I'm starting to find the "don't talk to girls just go work out for months on end" to be a little suspicious. I can't quite put my finger on it yet, but there's something weird going on there. If working out for you works, great, but saying "don't talk to a girl who made a point of encouraging you to talk to her"…
/r/trpGAME23/06/14 12:20 AM
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P.S. My point isn't that "oh bohoo me", my point is I'm tired of seeing whining from the "girls only want good looking guys and that's my excuse for why they don't like me" crowd, when I once again lost a girl to a guy who's much less good looking than I am (he's lost most of his hair and he's not fat but not in shape either). He had better game - better social connections, better timing, and the timing part of my game was terrible I just didn't realize it then (and the girl was one of those fri…
/r/TheRedPill22/06/14 01:00 AM
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It's similar (but different) to the way a girl-next-door 8/10 will be utterly overwhelmed with suitors because of her perceived attainability, while a true 10/10, despite getting all the stares, will be asked on far fewer dates because men perceive the odds of rejection as near certain. Exactly. My signal-to-noise ratio on being flirted with is terrible. Am I better off than the truly ugly guy? Yes I am. But I might get twice as many girls who find me attractive, but 10 times as many girls who I…
/r/TheRedPill22/06/14 12:44 AM
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Thanks for the perspective but boo hoo. You should spin plates and work into a LTR that way. Despite what trp rhetoric says, I've never once seen a guy spin plates and get into an ltr. I know one guy who tried and got a girlfriend, but it "just happened" that he was not spinning any plates at the time that overlapped with getting together with this girl. You may be good looking but it sounds like you are letting the girls control you. Oneitis anybody? Girls have less incentive to try to control …
/r/TheRedPill22/06/14 12:16 AM
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I think then that I probably agree with the overall point you're getting at - liberalism keeps things from stagnating, conservatism keeps liberalism from going off the rails with new ineffective ideas. The whole thing seems kind of broken right now though, with the "conservatives" adopting the same tactics the liberals were using.
/r/TheRedPill21/06/14 11:42 PM
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I don't think the people trying to claim it's a hate group are going to be swayed. As long as we ignore the frame they want everyone to have to talk in, they're going to try to claim it's a hate group. But the rest of your comment I totally agree with - their's way to much bitterness in the forum. As a forum about sexual strategy, one of the first and oft-proved rules of game is - bitterness is one of the most unnattractive emotions to women. It's fine (imo) to say things that piss people off th…
/r/TheRedPill21/06/14 11:37 PM
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You understand that if people are not calling, it is hardly the company that is discriminating, but people discriminating themselves. I'm the poster from the long comment from above, this is what I'm getting at. The reason why a nursing department isn't 50% male isn't likely because the hiring manager is biased - it's most likely because 90% of the applicants are women. Likewise, the reason why there are few women in programming in my department isn't because we're biased - in fact we're biased …
/r/MensRights21/06/14 11:21 PM
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(rolls eyes) Good luck with that.
/r/TheRedPill21/06/14 11:09 PM
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But let's be honest, you won't see guys who look like models friend zoned, not initially, if they will go full beta mode a female will eventually despise them but she will get fucked earlier. Bullshit. I'm 6"0, popular with girls, and look good in a suit. I got friendzones up the ass - the girl started hanging out with me all the time, started moving into my house practically (always wanting to crash here, leaving vhs tapes here - I don't own a vhs player!), etc. I asked her out. She went out on…
/r/TheRedPill21/06/14 11:09 PM
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One of the really disturbing things about rape as a crime, is that if the girl is actually raped a lot of times it's so emotionally disturbing they just want to get away from it. It's like trying to face someone who mugged you in court - if that person lived across the hall from you. Add in how difficult it is to prove one way or the other since it usually takes place when no one is around, and girls who have been through the traumatic experience (unfortunately) are often traumatized and scared …
/r/TheRedPill21/06/14 11:01 PM
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This is beyond a shit test. It's Orwellian! Orwellian is the exact right term. From George Orwell's Animal Farm: Years pass...The Seven Commandments are abridged to a single phrase: "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others".
/r/TheRedPill21/06/14 10:33 PM
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Interesting article. While I refused to use the phrase "rape culture" for anything but it's actual meaning (which doesn't exist in the US), I thought the authors point here was really interesting - The hook-up culture denounced by conservatives is the very same rape culture denounced by feminists. Who wants it? Most college women do not; they ignore hookups and lament the loss of dating. Many men will not turn down the offer of an available woman, but what they really want is a girlfriend. The p…
/r/TheRedPill21/06/14 10:09 PM
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(rolls eyes) But you don't understand what really goes on here. What sleeping with lots of girls is to guys, getting attention from high enough values guys is to girls a. Because you're attractive, girls will pay attention to you, flirt with you, etc - and doing that in and of itself will get them what they want. There's a certain threshold where the more attractive you are, your number of girls who will flirt and it never go anywhere goes up dramatically. When you're not as attractive, there's …
/r/TheRedPill21/06/14 01:13 AM
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Feminism has done wonderful things for women Even this is questionable. Feminism has increased women's power, but decreased women's happiness. Let me ask you - say you had a deal where you spent all your time at home. You did chores and raised children. Then someone invented machines that would both do chores for you and entertain your children. Would you say the person who convinced you that you need to stop being able to do that, and instead work in a soulless corporate job was helping you and…
/r/TheRedPill21/06/14 12:38 AM
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Could there be a connection or am I just prooftexting? Have feminists become "hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron?" It's what happens to all political movements who's originals start with "we are oppressed". From George Orwell's Animal Farm: The animals revolt and drive the drunken and irresponsible farmer Mr. Jones from the farm, renaming it "Animal Farm". They adopt Seven Commandments of Animalism, the most important of which is, "All animals are equal." (…
/r/TheRedPill21/06/14 12:34 AM
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I think you are thinking correctly, but I also think you would have a difficult time negotiating this conversation with a feminist who is a real actualized person rather than these super-sensitive tumblr feminists who have turned a movement about having real life options available for women to pursue happiness in a changing world into outright misandry/permission slip to be an asshole. Like any mainstream movement, poseurs and the selfish wash into the crowd in droves and hurt the overall messag…
/r/TheRedPill21/06/14 12:31 AM
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Conservative ways of thinking (which is essentially TRP) can only dominate & become mainstream after society has collapsed from trying to out-smart human nature as BP-thinking/liberalism attempts to do. Lol, have you watched Fox News? Have you heard the conservative christian line that all sexual thoughts outside of marriage are sinful? Have you been to a conservative christian church where they're telling all the guys to sit back god will provide them with a woman? I mean I agree with the rest …
/r/TheRedPill21/06/14 12:21 AM
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They'll never win the battle, because they're fighting an ephemeral enemy, just like the War on Terror. They'll never win the battle because as the article talks about they need to continue to have an enemy in order to motivate people to their side. Do you what the #1 factor in rape is? It's alcohol. Do you remember what feminists said when people suggested educating women on the dangers of getting plowed drunk? They responded saying it was "offensive" to educate women about the #1 factor in get…
/r/TheRedPill21/06/14 12:12 AM
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I don't know, I think the problem is defining crazy as always bad. I dated a "crazy" asian girl and it was fun. I dated a girl who wasn't crazy at all and it was boring as hell. The sex was terrible. The question isn't whether she's crazy, it's whether she's enjoyable crazy, or "mostly enjoyable crazy with a small side of crazy I'm not fond of".
/r/TheRedPill21/06/14 12:03 AM
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My dating life definitely got better when I took an attitude like the linked article. I always dated the same kind of crazy girl - she had depression (not all the time, but it would periodically always pop up), an eating disorder (not bad enough that she was hospitalized or anything), and she liked to talk about her "problems". My first girlfriend, we had broken up but still hung out, and she got worse and worse. One night it became very obvious I wasn't really "helping" by "listening to her pro…
/r/TheRedPill21/06/14 12:01 AM
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Oh come on, he actually had me for the first couple of sentences.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 11:27 PM
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I have problems making new male friends. I'm 24 and most guys my age I exchange phone numbers with, either we never contact each other or I'll be like, hey let's grab a beer and we'll never end up doing it. I've even tried treating them like women saying "let's get a beer Thursday" and dude said "sounds good I'll get back to you tomorrow." that was on Tuesday and he never got back to me. Should I confront the situation? or do other people also experience this? I have a real tight group of 5 frie…
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 11:25 PM
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In relationships and dating especially, women take the follow role, and being good in the follow role means gaming the system more than a lead does. I got over my hesitation to do it when I realized how much of women's behavior and preferences were a result of other women (her mother, other women her age doing the group pressure thing) manipulating here. That's how you get insane things like "I'm 'protecting' my friend from guys by cockblocking everyone" or "I don't do that to meet guys, and I h…
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 11:20 PM
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I didn't know the other thread, but it sounds like you're putting a woman who's cheated on you's emotions above your own. And that's exactly what trp is against. "I maliciously waited until the worst possible time to break up with her" is being a dick and not alpha (usually). That's different than "The baby was born, suddenly it was obvious that it wasn't mine, I dropped her cheating ass like a rock right there". It's not like she's homeless on the street here - she's in a hospital, she's capabl…
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 11:07 PM
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TRP needs to be less about woman-shaming and more about reclaiming masculinity and tips on how to lead a better life. I agree with your use of the word "less". I think a small amount of it is healthy, otherwise you get caught up in the "women are perfection" mentality which is both innacurate and inneffective in dating. There's nothing wrong with some of that, but trp does get to high of a dose of it - wish I somehow saw more helpful articles than yet another one bitching about something.
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 11:05 PM
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Sure you are allowed to be upset, but these women didn't do shit to you. If a fat girl loses weight, is she allowed to hate all the men because men in her highschool didn't find her hot? Look at how idiotic it sounds. It does sound idiotic, but welcome to most of the feminist-issue articles posted to my facebook feed. "A man I didn't find attractive hit made a polite possibly datey or sexual invitation as he was exiting on his floor - my god! how can I handle this atrocity!". Sorry, you know, th…
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 10:58 PM
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Most of your comment is rhetoric. So for girls for whom the reason is number three, do they still need to be tormented? For guys who are simply socially awkward, do they still deserve to be called "creepy" and have entire articles written, posted, and shared across their facebook feed about them? There are girls out there who simply aren't attractive and don't get to have a "sexual prime"- do they deserve to be criticized for blowing an opportunity they never had? Do the similar guys "deserve" t…
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 10:56 PM
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4) her standards were too high, or she overvalued herself relative to the pool of potential mates. And for some girls, why were their standards to high? Because all they heard about was that they would be attractive forever, guys would always be available, and always want them. If they had had a bit of realistic humility, she wouldn't have spent her college years leaving her net tied up in the basement under the assumption that all the fish would be in the lake all the time. To use a different a…
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 10:42 PM
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Sometimes those comments get to harsh and to personal, and I'm not a fan. But some of the anger and responses come from the fact that feminists (and really, women in general for once rather than it just being feminists) have spent decades lying to everyone and making it "offensive" to point out that as a women gets older, her attractiveness goes down. If you're a plate spinner, this is an annoyance but not a huge deal. It's annoying when women will try to "shame" you for not desiring women older…
/r/TheRedPill20/06/14 10:09 PM
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Right, this "I dumped all my problems on her at the worst possible time then am shocked that it went bad!" thing is not the same thing as "I can never ever be vulnerable at all".
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 09:40 PM
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I honestly don't buy into this. If you build a life with a woman, I think it's okay to show your vulnerable side once in a while. The problem with these stories as a whole is that it's always the same illogical thing: 1. Don't show any weakness or complaints 2. Wait until all of the shit has hit the fan and it's the worse possible time to break down 3. Suddenly break down, gush about all your problems, insecurities, and that everything is terrible all at once. 4. Woman reacts very badly 5. Claim…
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 09:39 PM
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So long as we're being fair, more whites have been enslaved throughout history than blacks. The word itself comes from Slav. That's not really relevant to the topic of race in the US, though.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 05:34 PM
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To be fair, at least blacks were actually enslaved at one time, unlike feminists who invented a history where all women are enslaved by all men. Yeah, feminist rhetoric copies the actual problems from black history (in the US). But the reality was entirely different. Blacks did not gain any advantages that offset the disadvantages they had from being slaves. Whereas for every disadvantage a woman had for being a woman, she would either have an advantage that men did not enjoy, or your average wo…
/r/MensRights19/06/14 05:33 PM
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In short, all it would take is one company that wasn't prejudiced against women to dominate the market. Who could compete against them with cheaper better labor? Exactly. Yes, it's not 100% proof, but nothing in these kinds of discussions are, and companies are always trying to lower costs. If it was that straightforward it would happen like you say - they'd hire women because they do the same job for less pay, and have lower costs than their competitors.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 05:17 PM
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It must be said, though, that if you look around your office and everyone is largely, say, white, male and in their 20's-30's, then your recruitment policies are probably flawed. That depends on the field you work in. In programming everywhere I've worked has a strong preference for trying to hire someone outside the norm. We just don't get even remotely qualified applicants who aren't either white or indian. We used to have an indian woman in our department, but she moved back to India. What yo…
/r/MensRights19/06/14 05:15 PM
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The whole "us vs them" the "oppressed versus the oppressors". Naturally all of it revolving around some twisted sense or morality, the right(oppressed) the wrong(the oppressors). I'm not sure that's quite right, there have been many social movements that have a genuine and valid sense of morality, they make positive change, then eventually they run out of steam and either that's when they get twisted, or that's when they start being completely manipulated by narcissists and sociopaths. I mean lo…
/r/MensRights19/06/14 08:26 AM
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I'd forgotten that's already in Orwell. Thanks. I've been pointing this out in various places for the last year, after it occured to me, glad to hear it click for someone else.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 08:03 AM
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...it's at zero. You downvoted me yourself? To describe it in another cliche - "girls never give blowjobs in their stories". And they almost never say "and then the guy I was sleeping with but not technically really exclusive with" in their stories either. The guy is either not mentioned, or described as her "boyfriend" aka "socially acceptable way of saying guy she's banging who's banging a bunch of other girls he doesn't quite mention to".
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 07:58 AM
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So would you say MRM is anti-feminist? It's not at all anti-woman. It's anti-current-generation of feminism, because it has to be. If suddenly feminism was only publishing articles truly aimed at equality, I think everyone would be happy to promote those same articles and would change their mind on what they thought of feminism. But the current man-villifying form of feminism is, imo, the opposite of mra. I mean it sets itself up that way, have you heard all the claims feminism has made trying t…
/r/MensRights19/06/14 04:03 AM
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The feminism that I know and wholeheartedly believe in benefits both men and women...THE ONLY WAY TO DO THIS is by opening an honest dialogue between both sexes. I believe you, I knew people like this growing up. But modern feminism is just not like that. Even if you think that you're being equal, the core feminist theories are created by systematically removing anything positive men did, removing any way in which men suffered (in these situations often both genders suffered), and creating a man…
/r/MensRights19/06/14 03:58 AM
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Just wait for the follow up piece about how you're "harrassing" a girl for looking at her when she's wearing a skimpy outfit. In 3...2...1...
/r/MensRights19/06/14 03:44 AM
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And, as always, the boys dress code is MORE strict than the girls'. Yeah, try wearing a skirt to school as a boy. Let's see how that goes...
/r/MensRights19/06/14 03:44 AM
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And girls' dress codes are usually less restrictive than boys dress codes. This is what the reality is - try showing up to school as a boy wearing a short dress. Or a long dress. Or showing bra straps. Etc. The only reason the school wouldn't immediately send you home is because they figure it's easier to let you be socialized ridiculed and ostracized and then you'll stop doing it.
/r/MensRights19/06/14 03:41 AM
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Yeah...as it's written, this is pretty much sexual assault. That is rediculously untrue. Whether it's sexual harrassment is another topic, but assault it is not. That would be like if you borrowed money from someone, you didn't pay it back, then they accussed you of mugging them. It's not even close.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 01:22 AM
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That's not really charges, that's a civil lawsuit. I would agree with you if I believed the story was true.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 01:18 AM
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Here is what really happened: Lol, here's what really happened: Someone was bored on reddit, and decided to make up a story with just the right amount of twists and turns to make it interesting and borderline implausible. Let me see if I have this straight - her boss (someone she knew as a friend for a long time) comes over to her house late at night, they start making out, she gives him a blowjob, he leaves, and "somehow" - despite it just being the two of them - his wife finds out. And he fire…
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 01:17 AM
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Yeah but here's the thing: Women seek power differentials. Yeah. Power Differential == Attractive.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 01:13 AM
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Let's try to stick to the facts - whatever did or didn't happen, the actual poster did not cry rape. "harrassment" at worst, but not rape.
/r/TheRedPill19/06/14 01:11 AM
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I haven't seen any evidence that Richardson required women to have sex with him in order to get paid for their work. Hmm, let's see - some girls email him saying they'll have sex with him if he can get them a shoot with a certain magazine. Now who do you think he's going to choose - the girl who's going to have sex with him, or the girl who isn't? That's beside the point though, as like I said I'm not talking about him specifically, but about it becoming a societal-wide thing.
/r/TheRedPill18/06/14 10:37 PM
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That's very amusing. You clearly don't understand what a "plate" is.
/r/TheRedPill18/06/14 10:32 PM
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I don't think you understand girls - she'll refer to him as "her boyfriend" (notice how his name is not given) when telling the story publicly because she doesn't want to sound like a slut. She's not going to publicly say "This was so terrible! I can't believe I cheated on my non-monogamous guy I'm seeing who's carefully avoided saying if he's seeing other girls or not".
/r/TheRedPill18/06/14 10:31 PM
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In my field (IT) 90% of the hiring decision lies with the technical manager. At least in the jobs I've held. I work in programming, that's only after the technical manager actually gets the resume. Your resume often won't get to their desk if hr doesn't like it. (In most places, you said it like it was your entire field, your particular company might be different.)
/r/TheRedPill18/06/14 10:28 PM
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Another important point I was going to make was that with work and relationships you must come from a place of power. which means you want to want it less. Cool, but on this phrasing I don't agree. I think it's less nihilistic and more accurate to say that the person with the most power is the one who has the most other options they could take up. I think the phrase might actually be who "needs" it the least. You can love your job, but having the power to jump right into another job you love equ…
/r/TheRedPill18/06/14 10:26 PM
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Cool, good luck! Like I said, I've done the "look as hard as I can for negative signs" thing myself, and am currently really regretting it. You cannot actually win the "read the signals" game. In fact, every girl I know who's gotten into an ltr/engadged/married sent off a whole bunch of mixed "I like you / I don't like you" signals. It's schroedinger's cat. If the box is jumping around you know the cat is still alive, if there was a sudden thump it's probably dead, but beyond the more obvious si…
/r/TheRedPill18/06/14 10:23 PM
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I'm not wasting my time on a baseless rhetorical battle. Good luck with that.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 10:14 PM
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Exactly. This is not a new trend, it's been true that most political movements end up trying to become the bully they believed they used to be fighting against.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 10:13 PM
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Women do suffer from some inequalities sure "suffer" and "unequal" aren't true. Women have different problems than men, that at worst usually balance out. Women are more likely to be victims of sexual violence, but men are more likely to be victims of non-sexual violence - from getting murder or beaten up by some other guy, to the military, to having to take dangerous jobs. These are all far, far more likely to happen to men than women. Women suffer from many different problems than men suffer f…
/r/MensRights18/06/14 08:26 PM
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George Orwell's Animal Farm: The Seven Commandments are abridged to a single phrase: "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others". A group that rose to power claiming to be oppressed, only to become the new oppressor, is not a new concept and hardly unique to feminism, but it does describe feminism today.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 08:13 PM
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some of us are very lucky that we weren't born with any form of herpes and that we haven't picked it up yet. Statistically it's far more likely that you have it, and you got lucky that you don't get any symptoms.
/r/TheRedPill18/06/14 05:19 PM
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The different strain thing is HIV, not herpes. I don't think so. The different strain thing isn't herpes either though, it's genital warts, their's over 100 different strains. The thing about the 50-80% of the population with oral herpes is that you transmit that by kissing or sharing a drink.
/r/TheRedPill18/06/14 05:19 PM
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Yeah, well, I just don't agree with you. There's one thing that's the biggest dread game and has never changed - that a woman's sexual attractiveness gets lower as she gets older. To paraphrase another poster from another thread, I've also never seen a woman get divorced and end up married to someone better. Or to really paraphrase a different poster - divorce means that a women in later age suddenly finds she misses getting all the attention she used to complain about getting from men, and has …
/r/TheRedPill18/06/14 04:19 AM
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A lot of time and effort went into establishing my beliefs. And having those beliefs, I see no reason to endlessly waste effort on yet-another manipulative skewing of something someone said somewhere to figure out exactly how it was skewed and manipulated.
/r/MensRights18/06/14 03:54 AM
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But it's illegal for students to have sex with their teachers isn't it? If you read the article, apparently she wasn't one of his teachers. The only way they knew each other was that he lived down the block.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 10:13 PM
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That seems OK. You overreacted to her word "friends". There's no reason to think he feelings about you have changed. Just assume you are in the "fuck zone" and escalate if you want. If she seems very friendly and open with you, not reserved, you probably are in her fuck zone. Girls aren't like this unless there's attraction. I could not agree with this more, and the fact that she used to flirt with you means that even if her feelings towards you have changed, it's far more likely she's going to …
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 06:46 PM
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I'm pretty sure it was just the simple mistake of waiting to long to make a move on her. She was attracted to me and probably liked me but I waited to long to reciprocate(im a dumbass i know). She wad talking about some guy who she finds attractive (bad sign) and how he has some awkward qwerk. I make a joke about it because i have a similar quirk and she said. Its not awkward with you because we are friends I still think you're overreacting and reading to much into things. Everything she's sayin…
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 06:45 PM
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As a guy a woman boss is simply better. She's attracted by redpill behavior. Yes that was attraction you saw. She rewarded you. Eh, in my experience it's a mixed bag as the poster I responded to above alluded to - women bosses and male bosses each tend to have positives and drawbacks that the other does not. If you had been a woman and done the same thing, the male boss might have been nicer to her, but the female boss would have reacted angrily. That's what women experience from female bosses. …
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 06:02 PM
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'Rocking the boat' and coming off like you care much more about yourself than the company is very bad, you're going to look like a bad worker, and your boss isn't going to have a good opinion of you. Disagree with your terminology a bit, I haven't seen anyone care about the "care about the company" thing in...actually, ever. It's caring about getting the job done decently that they usually seem to look at, that or having a problem where your caring about yourself interferes with your job. In oth…
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 05:50 PM
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Doesn't matter if people like you in the work place as long as they respect you. Good post. The part I quoted is interestingly true of both work and dating isn't it?
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 05:39 PM
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To be fair, the question here is whether narcissists do a better job or not. Since narcissists seem to be better at running companies, and being in charge of things, how much is it simply appearing better and how much of it is actually being better at things? Your ability to talk about what you're doing in a way your boss understands actually makes you a more useful employee for your boss. Having to go through a bunch of passive aggressiveness from the employees under you in order to figure out …
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 05:28 PM
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Have you ever actually applied for a job? HR decides whether your resume gets through. HR decides if you even get to the point of talking to those other people in the hiring process. Last interview I did HR blocked me from getting any further because they thought I "sounded arrogant". Had been so used to dealing with other tech people who already know I know what I was talking about, I had forgotten that HR is basically a "are you beta enough to be a good employee" test.
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 05:23 PM
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It hard to explain. I look a bit like the fonz. its the black leather. girls cream over it. Black tees aswell. Its so simple. I'm reminded of another post where someone was talking about how in their scene guys would wear long sleeve shirts. The not-in-shape guys didn't really stand out. The out of shape guys looked out of shape. But the ripped guys really stood out. This may be a bit dated - http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQBqeN5wEQRTfkm3IkCsz4nHCTTZY9JzlrT5u4RkKkMAuJsYA38Ow But it sti…
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 05:19 PM
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oh & the boyfriends are the stupidest losers ever. To be fair here, you don't really know what their boyfriends are like. Her "boyfriend" might just be a dark triad type himself with lots of plates. I mean why do you think he didn't break up with her?
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 05:07 PM
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Yeah, it's absurd to call him a rapist, etc. However, to be fair, society in general does have an interest in trying to make sure that sex != job. If women are expected to have jobs, but it becomes a thing where in order to get a job a woman has to have sex with the hiring person, well, that's going to be a huge hiring problem. Stuff like this is sort of the first step, so society has to try to shame him for it. He's certainly not a rapist, but if sex == job, it's going to become a societal prob…
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 05:06 PM
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Could we keep political pandering b.s. out of this forum? Which side was it that recently said "All sexual thoughts outside of marriage are sinful"? Conservatives. Which side is it that claims birth control (not even abortion, but birth control pills) are sinful, so if you want to have sex you better be able to raise a child right now? Conservatives. The difference is mostly that liberals are going more towards conservatives in being more sexually restrictive than they used to be.
/r/MensRights17/06/14 12:26 AM
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Edit: Aand TRP got to the point where it's downvoting reflexively opinions it disagrees with. Not entirely surprising, but still sad. The thing is, no one is asking "what does it make sense for the school administrator to do in the current environment". Also keep in mind that no one seems to be accussing him of attacking anyone, and the story (according to the article) apparently has him being accused of having sex in multiple locations that were impossible for him to be accussed to having sex i…
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 12:09 AM
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Right. At this point it would usually turn into a vocabulary debate, the question is how you define "friend" - someone you're emotionally very close to? Someone you see a lot? Someone you see infrequently? Etc. Looking back at my dating and sex history, I've gain many times from having girls I considered "friends" but might describe as "friendly acquaintances". But I've never gained from "see you all the time, share stories, bestest bugs" relationship with a girl (unless I was already dating her…
/r/TheRedPill17/06/14 12:05 AM
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If she's doing those things, you're probably good. Only thing to watch out for is her trying to guard you against other girls, that's kind of a "can be enticing to other girls" thing, but sometimes I haven't known that's what's going on and missed out. One of the core tenets of Game is that other girls finding you attractive causing other girls who are around to be more attracted to you. I've seen this be true again, and again, and again. The opposite though is when the girls around you find you…
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 11:25 PM
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Yeah, looking back at my dating history "good aqcuintance" girls have always been good for the love life (with other girls).
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 10:02 PM
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but if you're not having sex with them theres nothing in a friendship that men couldnt do better. There are a few things women provide better than guys. They're better social proof. They have more female friends, and you're not stepping on another guys toes if you hook up with her female friend (though girls will still guard sometimes, it's bizarre, but I don't feel bad about breaking through it). The first girl I had sex with was in college, who I introduced to (and by introduced I mean the gir…
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 10:01 PM
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Yeah, and I've noticed that men who get into middle management off end up acting like the most insecure women - sitcom ex: Michael Scott. It's popular because many people relate to it. It was actually my male bosses female boss who responded the most positively to me going Red Pill at my job and standing up for my job role and telling them off for trying to pin poor project performance on me (when it wasn't my fault). I really don't know whether I prefer a male or female boss. The problem I've f…
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 06:17 PM
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Hate to be all NAWALT, but I kinda feel like TRP gets to bitter about this - yes, some women are like that, and yes, those women are the most likely to be single. But years ago I dated a girl who was barely out of high school (yes, high school, we're not talking about a paradigm of maturity here), and she had a similar story - she made a list of things she wanted in a guy. She went out, searched hard - and found a guy who met all those criteria. Said there was no chemistry and she was bored out …
/r/TheRedPill16/06/14 06:13 PM
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The thing is, you're still missing the point. Imagine that for some reason, in the US the government decided to round up all people of Swedish descent and send them into camps. If you were a man of swedish descent, or a woman who was taller than 6"2, they sent you into a camp where they gassed and killed you. If you were a woman shorter than 6"2 (which is the overwhelming majority of women), you were instead sent to a camp that was basically a vacation - they had yoga classes, pools, nice acomod…
/r/MensRights16/06/14 03:47 AM
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I don't really want to put hours of my time into figuring out how this is being misrepresented, I just don't believe it's true. And I think the whole argument is ridiculous. Just as ridiculous as feminisms overblown and made up rape statistics claims (like the 1 in 4 #).
/r/MensRights16/06/14 03:19 AM
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Of course what she really wanted him to do was say "no, I will not stop touching you. In fact, enjoy it. And what." To be fair, it's also possible that it's the kind of shit test where she wanted to know he "could' stop doing it. He wasn't so "needy" that he couldn't live without it - it's a sign that he wants her, but not that he needs her (in a needy way). Kind of "she doesn't like it if he does it because he can't live without it, but she does like it if the does it because he wants to".
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 11:57 PM
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Yeah, I think the above poster gets at a reality but then drops the ball. I've seen a lot of relationships close to what you're saying, but never what the above poster was saying where he doesn't care at all. I mean I see players get laid with the strategy, sure, but they always end up apart. She does want 2 contradictory things, but if you give her 0% of one of them she's going to move on, looking to get both.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 11:55 PM
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Or put another way, traditional marriage is a contract wherein a woman contracts out her womb in exchange for her husband's labor and protection. Or where a woman contracts out her younger and sexier years, giving up the carousel riding, in exchange for her later years when her smv goes down while the mans goes up.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 11:49 PM
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sigh You've still missed the point. I know many people who got married and stay married and seem to be fairly happy. In all those cases, it was between the woman's 1st-3rd boyfriend. Trying to "lock down" a carousel rider probably results in what you're saying. But "locking down" a college girl who's only other boyfriend was a guy she dated in high school is "locking her down" from destroying her relationship potential during the years she's most able to ride the carousel, so that she still has …
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 11:47 PM
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I agree with what you're saying up to this point - a marriage today doesn't prevent her at all from riding the cock carousel, lolz. on the contrary, i would say it encourages it. And here I don't agree. How do you figure that? How many time does TRP claim that girls with a low partner count are the only girls who are going to be happy in a monogamous long term relationship?
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 11:34 PM
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Well...lol, I totally agree with you. I just don't know of anything better. There's far more bitterness than I would prefer here, but TRP philosphy has helped me a lot. No doubt I've had to filter out some crap, and sometimes gone down the wrong path and had to back up and adjust though.
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 06:12 AM
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The immigrant rights movement wasn't required to be about how bad natural born americans have it too. The civil rights movement wasn't required to be about bad white people have it too. The gay rights movement isn't required to be about how bad heterosexuals have it too. The difference is that those movements were about people who were actually oppressed with no upsides. There were no upsides to being a slave vs not being a slave. There are many upsides to being a woman and not a man. That balan…
/r/MensRights15/06/14 05:59 AM
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It may interest you to know that it's more likely, but quite possibly not that much more likely. There is CDC self report data suggesting that the rate of male victim rape is rather close to the rate of female victim rape. Ok, where is this report? Outside of prison I find this pretty difficult to believe, assuming we're talking about actual forcible rape rather than "any time someone has had anything to drink" or something like that. There's several reasons: - Men on average are stronger than w…
/r/MensRights15/06/14 05:08 AM
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I just don't agree with you at all. Percentages of gender in the military are irrelevant to the point that men bear the overwhelming brunt of death and disfigurement from warfare. The # of women vs # of men is just a diversion, as it claiming that "women couldn't join the military so it doesn't count". It doesn't change the point that men bear far more non-sexual violence because they're men than women do, things that women are protected by society from having to deal with because they're women.
/r/MensRights15/06/14 05:02 AM
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If anything it's the women who need to do the locking down, not the reverse. True, but if you think about it the words don't necessarily say otherwise. You have to "lock her down" by getting married so she doesn't ride the carousel and become unable to be happy being married is a logically possible interpretation of the saying. Sounds a lot like Powertalk - on the surface it says "she's so valuable you need to lock her down!" while it's other meaning is "you need to lock her down to keep her fro…
/r/TheRedPill15/06/14 04:40 AM
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They're pretty much both equally shitastic. Yeah, it's a totally different issue, but which party was it that campaigns constantly about "small government" and government that stays out of the way of business - but then is the party in charge in most states where they passed laws making it illegal for automakers to sell cars directly (in order to protect the income of dealerships)? They're both full of crap.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 10:41 PM
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I think he could have chosen better examples to argue his points, and he made it sound like some kind of administrative conspiracy theory rather than the consequences of pandering to a kneejerk voter base. Personally, I thought his examples were perfect. I mean this is what we're looking at - a girl has a friends with benefits, "they" decide not to have sex any more, she changes into her pajamas and climbs into bed with him, he initiates, she half heartedly turns him down, she decides she'd rath…
/r/MensRights13/06/14 10:37 PM
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Yeah, but that's kinda like saying "Only recently were women allowed as subjects in radioaction experiments that caused them to go insane, lose limbs, and never be able to have children". Another way of putting it that's probably more accurate is that until recently, women were protected from serving in combat and having to face the horrors of warfare. Societal rules meant that aggressive dictators were unable to connive, conscript, or draft women into dying in their wars against other countries…
/r/MensRights13/06/14 10:22 PM
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then this sub does the exact same thing in the opposite direction. And when half the human population suffers disproportionately, then perhaps you, as a human being, should be ashamed of yourself. The entire question is whether that's actually true. There's a lot of feminist-revision history that claims that women suffer disproportionately - but not a lot in real history that says that, and that conclusion and impression is achieved by emphasizing women's suffering while discounting men's equal …
/r/MensRights13/06/14 09:23 PM
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It's a myth that it's happening in the current generation of people. In the past this was more true, but it's still a myth that men are "privileged" about this because it comes with a lot of negative side effects for men. Men are expected to take bigger risks. When it works out they get more rewards, but when it doesn't work out they get hurt a lot more - that's why men are 3 times more likely to be murdered, many times more likely to end up homeless, more likely to push themselves phsychologica…
/r/MensRights13/06/14 08:57 PM
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No, this is exactly what the point is - that all of these points have downsides for men that are pointedly left out. "male privilege" exists in the sense that men enjoy both privileges and disadvantages for being male that women do not. "male privilege" in a claim that men have it better is false. So to answer OP's question, no, this is fucking obviously not "male privilege." Male privilege is the greater pay on average This isn't even true any more. When it was true in the past, it was balanced…
/r/MensRights13/06/14 08:43 PM
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It's definitely one-sided, but it's a response to other one-sided arguments.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 08:02 PM
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Some might even argue that the women were privileged for not having to die in a war even though they had no choice in the matter. That's exactly what the point is - women weren't "oppressed" in being kept out of the military, they were protected from the death, destruction, and psychological casualties of war. Men as a group were expected to go to war, women were protected from having to be in warfare.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 07:56 PM
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I would not be surprised to find out that the ratio of military men to women is close to the percentage of combat deaths. I wouldn't either, but that misses the point. The point is that men bear the brunt of much, much more non-sexual violence than women do. The title of "Is this what they mean by privilege" eludes to claims from feminists that women are "oppressed" compared to men, while in reality men as a group do dangerous things that women as a group are protected from doing.
/r/MensRights13/06/14 07:54 PM
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No, bad point. He's missing the purpose of this. Male death in combat isn't brought up to say "Boy, women sure are crappy, aren't they?" but is brought up in response to feminists who say "Boy, men sure got a sweet, privileged deal, don't they?" Exactly, this is always brought up in the context of feminists claiming that men have "male privileged" and women are "oppressed". People who take equal risks, and face equal danger, should also get equal privileges. But it is absurd to claim men are mor…
/r/MensRights13/06/14 07:18 PM
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Most CEOs and people high up are men because of one thing: women in general aren't willing to sacrifice as much to get there as men are... Instead they want to change the whole fucking world so they don't have to. Right, this also ties into women's impressions that powerful men get their easily and without to much work, sacrifice, and a whole list of negative things they have to go through to get there. For every Bill Gates, their are 10 or 100 guys who didn't quite manage to combine smarts with…
/r/MensRights13/06/14 07:07 PM
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I mean, that's true. This subreddit has this weird idea that feminism means "women are more important than men" and that feminism is about ignoring men's problems. Lol, that's because that is what modern feminism and modern feminist ideals are about. Take "The Partriarchy" - it's created from taking history, then removing mens problems and suffering from the story. It pointedly, repeatedly, and selectively only depicting the women who were the victims, and the men who where either privileged or …
/r/MensRights13/06/14 06:54 PM
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Apathy is a part of sociopathy - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy Psychopathy (/saɪˈkɒpəθi/) (or sociopathy /ˈsoʊsiəˌpæθi/) is traditionally defined as a personality disorder characterized by enduring antisocial behavior, diminished empathy and remorse, and disinhibited or bold behavior. A lack of empathy that causes one to repeatedly claim that being shot has the same weight as being protected from being shot is very much inline with sociopathy. Sociopathic behavior and thinking is some…
/r/MensRights13/06/14 06:28 PM
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Is there anything more privileged and entitled than a beautiful woman? No, that's as privileged and entitled as you can get. It's like being a rich guy born into money. You do have "problems", but they're just not on the same scale, and you have a lot more ability to overcome them. People want to steal your money, you have to figure out how to invest it, etc etc. The born-rich guy can convince himself that he has a lot of issues because it's so "hard" investing his money, keeping other people fr…
/r/TheRedPill13/06/14 05:59 PM
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I absolutely LOVE when feminists talk about objectification and beauty, on the one side they do not want to be treated like objects, on the other they dress (or like sluts) or they they dress extremely well and wear makeup to look more ..get this ...BEAUTIFUL! Lol, I've seen so many feminist girls with a feminist mother talk about "objectification" in beauty is so bad, then immediately start talking about how Ryan Gosling's abs are dreamy and amazing - http://www.fitmole.org/wp-content/uploads/2…
/r/TheRedPill13/06/14 05:56 PM
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When they are targets of sexual violence. I don't think so. Beautiful women are desired by more people, but they're also better protected. If a beautiful woman is attacked by a stranger, how much more police and public attention do they get in catching the guy vs a less attractive woman? If a beautiful woman is attacked by someone she knows, how many guys does she have wanting to kick his ass vs a less attractive woman? The list goes on and on, but while a beautiful woman is more desirable, she …
/r/TheRedPill13/06/14 05:49 PM
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especially when you have spent decades believing reality to be other than what it is Yeah, one of the roots of TheRedPill comes from years or decades of believing "women" are a certain way, only to find out the truth is the opposite. Some of it I don't even mind - it's just hard to change one's emotions and perspective based on years of believing it. I personally find the overly-bitter tone that continually pops up to be worse than the whining. Examples: - One time things got bad and I showed we…
/r/TheRedPill13/06/14 05:10 PM
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The way I see it though a lot of the stuff done is borderline beta, and because it's done by - quite often - natural alphas, there doesn't seem to be a problem. Lol, yeah, I agree I've noticed the same thing...
/r/TheRedPill13/06/14 07:38 AM
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You started off your post saying - "A lot of people new to the sub wonder why they can't show weakness to their girlfriend or SO" This I disagree with that you "can't" ever show any weakness at all. At the end of your post you wrote - "Your SO knows you have weaknesses, but flaunting them in front of her is as inconsiderate to her (and as destructive to her image of you as an attractive man) as her rolling up her belly fat or dragging you into that bathroom would be to you and your image of her.…
/r/TheRedPill13/06/14 07:22 AM
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Your comment doesn't even seem to relate to my comment. We have every right to call out bullshit when feminists claim women are treated worse, when in reality they're treated better (when it comes to non-sexual violence they definitely are). By your reasoning, women have no right to compain about anything either as they're really just complaining about how women are treating each other. (I could live with no complaints on either side, or complaints from both sides, but not that only one gender g…
/r/TheRedPill13/06/14 07:00 AM
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Not exactly... Let me try a different example - when I moved back home from college, I had no friends, and out of social desperation I joined a college bike club. I was a little to old to be there (but only by a little, I had just graduated from college after all). The people were nice, but I always felt a little out of place. The guys were fine with me, the girls were friendly but a little apprehensive. When everyone graduated, most of the guys friended me on facebook, none of the girls did. I …
/r/TheRedPill13/06/14 06:46 AM
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Yeah but by their late 20's when they finally figure out the bad boys are a bad bet they have 3 or 4 baby daddies. You really missed the point of the article. Bad boys are not juxtaposed - they're just bad boys. Like one of the examples is "An account who's into sculpting but makes his own art". Another example is "An Ivy-League guy that has a motorcycle and does cross fit". Juxtaposition doesn't even require you to be a douche, or be a "bad boy". The "bad boy" is a bad boy through and through, …
/r/TheRedPill09/06/14 08:03 PM
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Like in your example, you get judged based on where you set your boundaries as well. You need to set your frame, but setting up a stupid frame is as bad as not having a frame.
/r/TheRedPill06/06/14 10:51 PM
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You will garner more respect if you humbly know your place and take responsibility for yourself than you would if you proudly boast that you deserve respect you haven't earned. Emotions are thinking - they're a pattern based way of thinking. The problem with that guy is his emotion of pride is retardedly stupid. Smart pride vs stupid pride is the difference between standing up to someone trying to take you down when you're doing a good job (good, and you keep your social standing in front of you…
/r/TheRedPill06/06/14 10:48 PM
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And so the feminists see this as misogynistic, because RPers no longer give them the special treatment they have become so used to. This isn't just me talking out of my ass, either, I see these complaints pop up all the time, shaming RPers for not buying women drinks, for dumping women after we grow bored, or for refusing to marry sluts despite being promiscuous themselves. The special treatment they believe they are entitled to (by virtue of being female), ironically.
/r/TheRedPill06/06/14 10:35 PM
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It's feminism that screwed up the word entitlement, and you're using it in that same way. Entitlement is sexy - it's to much entitlement that's the problem. The line of maximum sexiness seems to be be entitled as possible - without crossing a certain line of to much entitlement. You grab a random woman on the street and kiss her - way to much entitlement. You're at a club, you grab your girlfriend, kiss her, and passionately make out. Exactly the right amount of entitlement. (She's entitled to t…
/r/TheRedPill06/06/14 10:32 PM
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The key to balancing the two is to be perfectly clear about what you want, without getting emotional about it. It's a pretty good post, but I don't quite agree with the "don't get emotional" part. (Many times that's a good response, but not always.) I've spent a lot of time specifically with women being "stoic". Spent a lot of my time at my job like that to. There's certain situations where that works, but a lot of times you just get ignored. I tried being direct and unemotional - worked a littl…
/r/TheRedPill06/06/14 10:01 PM
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Yeah, most of modern feminism's complaints is describing itself. In a situation with a beta, the entitlement is on the woman's side - she feels entitled to the beta's time, attention, and affection, without giving out anything herself. The series of articles claiming that guys who got friendzoned were somehow morally obligated to stay friends with the girl were all girls sense of entitlement over the beta. How could he stop paying attention to her when he "owed" her constant attention?
/r/TheRedPill06/06/14 09:25 PM
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You guys do not like to be generalized as violent and hyper-sexualized and yet I see in many of these posts women are generalized as manipulative and emotionally unstable. I personally do not think either way is a healthy way of viewing another group of people and would not think a serious feminist would generalize a group of men like that. Are people on MRA who generalize women like this on the fringe or the majority? I don't see a ton of that, but this biggest problem is that feminism use "men…
/r/MensRights05/06/14 07:51 PM
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In Romantic comedies the main character shows signs of being an Alpha (Generalization for arguments sake, some are wimps). Good looking, confident, distant, well-presented, subtle. Yet they also send cute morning messages, flounder under the main Females gaze, send gifts, talk about being love and other stuff that simply drives girls off in real life. Interesting thread, but which rom coms are you talking about? Watch The Notebook from a blue pill perspective and you could think he's blue pill -…
/r/TheRedPill05/06/14 06:10 PM
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Anybody could seduce a landwhale Have you ever seen people try this? It's way harder than you think. An unnattractive girl's only card is often her loyalty and low partner count so she'll guard it jealously. For a hot girl to be seen as a slut she still gets laid all the time. For an unnattractive girl to be seen the same way is for her to give up her only card in the dating game (for some of them). Also, other girls will give her more crap and be harder on her because she has low girl-status to…
/r/TheRedPill05/06/14 05:44 PM
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EDIT: In the presentation, he threw up a slide about Maven, a plugin execution framework The man's an idiot. I think it was the female commenter who called it a plugin execution framework, not the guy who did the presentation.
/r/TheRedPill05/06/14 05:40 PM
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As usually it's about a power struggle. Women feel that it's perfectly fine to constantly post about "men" being rapists, "men" being sexist, etc. This guy just wrote the same kind of thing, except towards women, and as always they had a fit over it. The difference is only in the gender. If it benefits their gender it's fine, if it says something bad about their gender they have a fit.
/r/TheRedPill05/06/14 05:33 PM
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Yet again "rape" is not about rape, it's about a power battle between the genders. "Your honor, I had verbal consent" just means later she claims she didn't give it, doesn't remember, etc etc.
/r/TheRedPill05/06/14 05:27 PM
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Yeah, or it's an automatic reaction. You think "she knows what's going on" she thinks "I get hit on 15 times a day, this is automatically what I say to everyone so if my boyfriend or other people ask I can say 'I told him straight up I have a boyfriend'".
/r/TheRedPill05/06/14 05:24 PM
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That's one of those things that either goes really well, or goes really poorly. It might not be your style, but I've seen several people successfully play the "let's pretend we're just friends" game where they both know what's going on until they hook up. Or, actually just act like friends for a while. Good: - Friend her with no obvious intentions and one day suddenly it's bam (I know it flies in the face of TRP rhetoric, but this has worked for me and other people I've known again and again) - …
/r/TheRedPill05/06/14 05:21 PM
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That can be true far more often than one would think, but is not always true. I don't think there's enough info in the post (or that the OP knows probably) to say either way.
/r/TheRedPill05/06/14 05:15 PM
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Great post, when I was in college I started noticing the same thing. There were a few "I'm always going to cheat" types, but most people cheated because they didn't want to go through the breakup. If they broke up with the person, there was a lot of pointless emotional discomfort - the "why are you doing this" stuff, the "we can work this out" stuff, a long period of agonizing over whether you should get back together, unclear expectations of what you should and should not do, etc. If one person…
/r/TheRedPill05/06/14 05:12 PM
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Excellent post. After reading TRP for a while, it's weird (in a very interesting way) to spend time around children. You spend time around like-minded adults for a while, and you forget how many other ways to see and think about things. It reminded me of being a kid and being accused of something and saying "no I didn't" to something I had done, and in the moment completely thinking of it as "I didn't do something bad no matter what you think". The emotions of whether I had "done" it were comple…
/r/TheRedPill05/06/14 04:44 PM
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No . Being an asshole will not get you what you really want, or appreciate it when you get it , It will just make you an asshole. Absurd. When I started being an asshole-every-time-I-need-to-be-with-a-purpose at my job, I started getting more respect. This just turns into a vocabulary debate, though. It would go around and around with me describing one definition of asshole, and you describing another. Being the kind of asshole who's trying to cause other people pain for their own amusement is a…
/r/TheRedPill04/06/14 06:04 PM
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Interesting thread. I would follow up with a couple of things. Assholes don't care how you feel There's a huge difference between "I want you to feel bad" and "I don't care how you feel". Women are constantly under pressure from other women to feel in a way that the other women consider appropriate. It can be a huge relief to be around someone who doesn't care how you feel - a relief that you can feel how you want without them constantly trying to judge or modify your feelings. ** Assholes do wh…
/r/TheRedPill04/06/14 04:59 PM
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Interesting thought, but this overdramatizes this to much, imo. It's more like seeing the girl with no makeup, she hasn't shaved, she's wearing frumpy clothing. The most superficial and narcisstic girls can't handle any of it. One little bit of seeing beyond the image and into the real person, and they run away or at least think less of you. Likewise, if your smv is low to begin with, it's also a problem. It's more important for you to keep up your image than with other people. A girl who's a 9 …
/r/TheRedPill02/06/14 11:18 PM
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we don't need to. the fat is immediately visible. however a woman cannot tell right away if a man is the real deal. That's not exactly true. I've often looked at women in pushup bras, certain kinds of clothing, makeup, etc and tried to figure out what she looks like without all of that. I'm totally fine with her looking "less hot" without all of that. It's when I'm pretty sure she looks ugly that it's a problem.
/r/TheRedPill02/06/14 10:55 PM
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Lol, good response, I can always count on the weightlifting crowd to have a feminist-level grasp of shaming tactics.
/r/TheRedPill01/06/14 02:21 AM
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Problem is that who initiated legal proceedings doesn't actually tell you anything about who the divorce is the fault of. My parents got divorced when my dad moved out - partially under my prodding to do so, and it was blatantly clear things were just going to get worse and never get better, and I wanted out as well. My dad moved, but my mother filed for divorce. The reason was simple - my mother stood to start getting child support the sooner they were divorced, whereas my dad would have to sta…
/r/TheRedPill01/06/14 02:01 AM
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I started lifting thinking it would improve my posture, and it just made it worse. I was achy a lot. It reinforced putting my muscles into not-very-natural positions in order to lift the bar "right". I was constantly exhausted. My flexibility got worse. I injured myself several times - there was one specific time this girl who had been sending a ton of IOI at me asked me to dance, I got up - and shuffled across the floor like an old man because I had injured my leg. I literally watched her inter…
/r/TheRedPill01/06/14 01:00 AM
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I said they're not related because while in either case the woman was going to try to turn your friend group against you, you went through it in order to get divorced, while the OP would go through it to get laid a couple more times with this girl (and likely lose out on opportunities with other girls). If someone had explained to you what your ex wife as going to do, then somehow offered that if you had sex with you ex wife 5 fewer times all of that friends-group-backstabbing would have gone aw…
/r/TheRedPill01/06/14 12:42 AM
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Perhaps that's my disconnect - in my initial post I conflated TRP & MRAs where someone more informed would know that TRP deals strictly with the individual. Right. But even with MRA's, the question is whether the victimhood is real. To exaggerate to make a point, a prince might complain that he's victimized because he's held back by the king, and a slave might complain he's victimized because he's beaten by his master and could be killed without reprecussion at any time. Both people are making c…
/r/TheRedPill31/05/14 11:53 PM
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I'm convinced alot of so called "patriarchy/oppression", historical and present, is created and enforced by women. That the "patriarchy" is actually the Matriarchy. Because men tend to be pretty indulgent, whereas women watch each other like hawks. Oh man, so happy to see other people realizing this! Nearly all feminism "issues" resonate with women because the man in the story is a figure used as a placeholder for what other women are doing. Patriarchy - women are tired of other women enforcing …
/r/TheRedPill31/05/14 07:21 PM
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P.S. If you want to see social manipulation, notice how they framed #YesAllWomen - by claiming that it was in response to men saying that "Not All Men" are like Elliot Rodger. As long as you argue within the frame they set, they still win in getting you to do part of the work of communicating their message. Obviously if you agree you do. But if you disagree, the phrasing causing you to sound like you're agreeing that "not all men" implies that most men are dangerous. Not All Strippers Have Deep …
/r/TheRedPill31/05/14 06:33 PM
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When the Elliot Rodgers shooting took place, feminism did what it usually does - take a situation and try to spin it to their own advantage. He wrote about his hatred towards everyone who had sex when he wasn't getting any - the women, the men, everyone. Feminism spun this as "he hates women". He was part of a site called PUAHate.com that hated on PUA's and probably complained that women wouldn't sleep with them. Feminism (absurdly, but no surprise there) spun this as what he did coming from PUA…
/r/TheRedPill31/05/14 06:23 PM
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but I think if guys tried this outside the workplace (specifically at bars) that would make life a lot more enjoyable for both sexes and women would probably be a lot less bitchy because then they have no reason to keep their guard up. To see why this isn't true, you'd have to see what girl groups are like when men aren't around - they're bitchy to other women all the time. Constantly. It's never ending. (Not that it's occurring 100% of the time, but there's no point where everyone gets along an…
/r/TheRedPill31/05/14 06:12 PM
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You're missing the one that's most common and most related to feminism - increasing her power over you next time. If you know that when she says something mean to you, you stand up for yourself, and you end up getting punished, you will be less likely to stand up for yourself next time. You also get cast as a "bad guy", so if you do stand up for yourself the next time, she automatically gets the benefit of the doubt. It's like - who do you think is more afraid of being accussed of stealing somet…
/r/TheRedPill31/05/14 05:34 PM
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If the guy in the story was good looking, they would never call it creep, scary or oppression. This has always been such bullshit, and the opposite of Game and TheRedPill philosophy. Tell that to Elliot Rodgers, the one before he did his stuff and made his videos, where women after women found him creepy and unlikeable. If the guy in the story was socially popular he never would have been called creep, scary, or oppression.
/r/TheRedPill31/05/14 04:38 PM
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When the headlines feature creepy guys who snap and start shooting people because they don't get attention from women, it doesn't seem irrational to be somewhat afraid of them. You pointedly leave out the gender of the people he killed. Is that because he killed mostly men, but you want to imply he killed mostly women? Statistically, men are 3 times more likely to be murder than women are in the US. Men should be 3 times more afraid of being murdered than women are.
/r/TheRedPill31/05/14 04:46 AM
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Yeah I was struggling to get the idea across and still keep the title concise. I've had that happen myself. The craziest thing is that on paper this guy should have been killing it...Hot guys can usually get away with being awkward or weird One of the core principles of Game and TheRedPill is that neither looks nor money are nearly as important to women as social status and having game. If Elliot Rodger hasn't proved that - I don't know what will. I'm a good looking guy. You think that makes is …
/r/TheRedPill31/05/14 04:28 AM
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Exactly
/r/TheRedPill31/05/14 12:48 AM
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Lots of good responses, I think some of it is that women are attracted to power and competence in a man - that they can understand and respect. Women are more social than men, so they know and understand social power and competence. Plus it's something they've been doing since they were small children, before hormones even hit (being social, trying to read social signals, etc). Understanding social power - something they're very attuned to, and something that's important to them. It's something …
/r/TheRedPill31/05/14 12:43 AM
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I have noticed that virtually every ugly, shy nerd in high school believes themselves to be some undiscovered genius that will one day "win" over the "dumb jocks" due to their supposed intellectual advantages. You know, I've personally never seen this myself in real life. Maybe it's the high school I went to, but no one in my nerdy circles cared about the jocks at all. We knew that supposedly we were supposed to, but we just didn't. The jocks didn't bother us, we didn't bother them, they might a…
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 11:48 PM
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One thing that I don't like about the programming profession is that it is too casual, which I think actually leads to a downward spiral in many life skills. If you are in a field where everybody is fit, well groomed, and wearing tailored clothes, it will put tremendous pressure on you to up your game. Programmers will argue that it is stupid and it has nothing to do with work productivity, and they may be right in that aspect, but it is not a bad thing to be forced to operate at a higher standa…
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 11:40 PM
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Uh, there's plenty of sociopaths (in the sense that they aren't emotionally bound and emotionally understanding of social rules) in fields where intelligence is valued. Ex: Sheldon Cooper is a stereotype because most nerd groups have a guy like him in it. Problem is, women find being able to manipulate a social scene that they respect to be powerful/attractive. Sociopaths in science can manipulate numbers and science in a way that's effective - something that girls completely do not care about.
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 11:22 PM
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I know, I've had similar things happen to. That's why it's called "manipulation" - it manipulates your feelings to make false associations. It's even more true when you're socially surrounded by people who feel positively about the speaker and presentation.
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 11:08 PM
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These are people who took a guy who's main website was PUAHate.com and claimed that PUA philosophy motivated him to do what he did. It's that bad.
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 10:58 PM
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Cause they already got the sex, they assume it as granted. Supposedly. I think jocks are better at playing the social game - creating preselection by spreading the idea that everyone wants to have sex with them. Girls feel like if they sleep a nerd, they have to prove he's interesting to their friends for their friends to see it as ok. To sleep with a jock is just "what everyone is doing". Telling people jocks get laid a lot is jocks way of creating an environment where they get laid a lot. I'm …
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 10:36 PM
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What this author gets wrong is the idea that the men's rights movement and feminism are exclusive. They are not. Feminism is focused on achieving equality, not the oppression or domination of men. A very small percentage of women who use the feminist label are interested in oppressing men; they are simply angry for being burned by one. The majority of feminists are simply looking for equal pay for equal work, the same career and promotional opportunities as men, and the freedom to choose their o…
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 09:51 PM
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If she had a daughter she would be singing a VERY different tune. Don't agree that if she had a daughter, but agree that's probably the case if she only had daughters.
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 08:58 PM
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Feminists just want power, that's all it's about, and they won't stop until they get it all. History repeatedly shows us what happens when an aggressive group gets dominating power in a culture, society, government, or religion. The end result is never good for those who don't have the power. Yeah. The only thing I'll add is that even if one manages to stop this trend with feminism (as in feminism having social power to do that), you can never think that you can just stop watching for it - some …
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 08:56 PM
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Yeah, Adam Carolla has a long running theme of being sarcastic about that. I had never heard Howard Stern say it, I wonder if one heard it first from the other.
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 08:36 PM
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Plot twist: A feminist mod is TRP member, spreading the word about TRP by bashing it constantly on feminist forums :D
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 08:30 PM
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Lol, don't say that! They'll friekin figure it out and stop mentioning us! ha
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 08:30 PM
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No, but similarly, I found TheRedPill after reading at the moment I realized that modern feminists were feeding me a whole lot of crap, and they started offhand dissing it. I figured if these liars who used caring language to manipulate me into not dating and selfishly increasing their own power hated TheRedPill, there was a good chance it made sense. I initially checked out Men's Rights before that, but found it to whiny and pathetic - trying to attain victim status, and going on about issues I…
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 08:19 PM
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That's why you see shit like this, where they take a figure like how many women were killed Lol, yeah, you'll notice that they selectively choose their targets to pointedly give a manipulated false impression. Notice that they don't compare to the number of male deaths in the entire US - 3 times as many men are murdered per 1 woman. As you said - "deliberately distorted to mislead".
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 08:13 PM
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Good post.
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 07:29 PM
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Your father made the unforgivable mistake of not being able to provide her with the living standard she thinks she deserves (even though the one she enjoys actually seems to be sufficient); her complaining about the house probably is just an outlet for her lack of satisfaction with your father. It's possible this is true, but that's not the only common explanation. Was just reading another thread where a guy went out with some girls who were 5's, some guy came over and etc etc demonstrated very …
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 07:28 PM
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I'd comment more on your last paragraph because I agree completely - notice how when it became obvious that women weren't actually the main victims that they immediately tried to create another different hashtag to try to narcissism keep the attention, rather than sympathizing with the men who were victims. If they cared at all about the actual issues they claim to care about, this would have been a great time for them to say "See? These kind of pscho's hurt both men and women! Men should be con…
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 07:21 PM
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I enjoyed your story, but I think your title is wrong. Seems like it would be more like "Good frame can sometimes replace a lacking SMV, but pointedly bad SMV will make good frame meaningless - aka better to let them wonder if you're an idiot than to prove you're an idiot". A couple of things came to mind: 1. Could be that he knows his SMV is low, so he goes after the less attractive girls. Could be it's a technique - sometimes if you talk to the less attractive girls in the group and act like t…
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 07:01 PM
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His "bla bla bla liberalism is bad" is annoying, but while his other point is correct, he misses the big picture. #YesAllWomen is about trying to distract everyone's attention from what actually happened - a crazed man who had trouble getting a date killed 3 men (his roomates) with a knife, 2 other men, and shot 2 women (5 men and 2 women). Having made this story a topic before realizing that most of the victims were male, feminism is trying to desperately do 2 things: 1. Keep the attention on i…
/r/MensRights30/05/14 03:35 AM
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Oh man, imagine for a second how machiavellian-level skilled feminism is. Imagine for a second, that someone told you they were going to convince you that a guy who's one of two main online inspirations was PUAHate.com, was going to kill a bunch of people (mostly men) because he agreed with PUA philosophy. Seriously. He reads a site dedicated to saying that PUA's suck - and they try to say PUA philosophy is to blame.
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 02:44 AM
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Some people say it's just from pretending to be a man for a year. I'm pretty sure it's just the fact that everything she built her life on, was proven, by herself to be false. And she couldn't handle it. I think that's overly harsh - because she didn't have to publish her book and such. The bitter feminists I know would never have published anything that supported the idea they were wrong, they're more likely to just lie about the experience and publish a completely fictional book claiming men a…
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 01:35 AM
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I understand why the mods would not want to deal with a storm of stories. But consider, for a moment, how masterfully feminism has manipulated the system to keep anyone from discussing the numerous topics this brings up that run counter to the feminist agenda. His main site seems to be PUAHate.com - a site dedicated to hating PUA's, and most likely TheRedPill and possibly Mra's. Feminists hate PUA's, the main site he read hates MRA's - if people kept talking about it, someone might realize simil…
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 01:15 AM
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Feminism has been hijacked by radicals, it's an ideology of hate now, not a civil rights movement. George Orwell's novel "Animal Farm" seems to be written modelling what happened with communism, but it describes the phases pretty much all social movements go through. At the end, this happens: "Years pass, and the pigs start to resemble humans, as they walk upright, carry whips, and wear clothes. The Seven Commandments are abridged to a single phrase: "All animals are equal, but some animals are …
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 12:33 AM
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Seriously? "sick" is a poor choice of words in this context, but I think what he's alluding to is that if one isn't plugged into the matrix to begin with, they wouldn't need the red pill to unplug from it. Bad choice of words though.
/r/TheRedPill30/05/14 12:23 AM
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I feel awkward and weird using "my boyfriend" in casual conversation because it feels like, to me, I am shouting "I HAVE A BOYFRIEND YOU NEED TO KNOW THIS BECAUSE YOU ARE MALE AND I AM FEMALE AND I ASSUME YOU ARE TRYING TO HIT ON ME", maybe I don't need to feel like this but I feel so disingenuous using the term in that context :-/ Thanks for responding. As a single guy, my reaction to that is to feel like you feel like you need to hide your relationship for some reason. It's like a guy who driv…
/r/MensRights29/05/14 08:31 PM
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no, what i meant was that i was never exposed to the sexist, hateful side of it. i wasn't taught anything. my belief in feminism was based solely on the ideology that females and males should be equal in the eyes of the law and in the eyes of employers. I know where you're coming from, as a guy who went to school in the late 80's and 90's that's how I felt about feminism at the time as well. I didn't realize how one sided it was, but I did think that while one sided the girls around me were genu…
/r/MensRights29/05/14 07:36 PM
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Yeah, it's called egalitarianism or humanism, but like you said unfortunately it's never reached critical mass enough to be meaningful.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 07:19 PM
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where does the equality come into play? George Orwell wrote the book "Animal Farm". It's a euphemism about Communism, but fairly accurately describes all social movements. From the book - Years pass, and the pigs start to resemble humans, as they walk upright, carry whips, and wear clothes. The Seven Commandments are abridged to a single phrase: "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others". Napoleon holds a dinner party for the pigs and local farmers, with whom he celebra…
/r/MensRights29/05/14 07:11 PM
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I'm way past being surprised at this kind of stuff, and into finding it interesting. Did you notice the massive projection in the article? It's literally accusing who it's attacking of doing what it's doing. All of these sites are petri dishes of hate, where angry young men go to rail against women (and even self-identifying male feminists) Feminist sites are petri dishes of hate, where angry young women go to rail against men (even self-identifying male feminists) The users constitute a hive mi…
/r/MensRights29/05/14 07:06 PM
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As a liberal, I think you're going to start to see a bit of a split as feminism becomes more and more blatantly man hating. I know that if it's Hillary vs Chris Christie in the election, I probably won't vote at all. Do I want to have my own side in charge and trying to pass anti-men legislation, or do I want republicans in charge and trying to pass anti-liberal legislation? I'm not fond of either, but hardly want to participate in bringing to power the side that's going to actively attack me be…
/r/MensRights29/05/14 06:49 PM
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This is really really ridiculous. Not a fan of PUAs or that side of TheRedPill, but to equate them with "hatred of women" is fucking ridiculous. That's rediculous, but not as rediculous as the fact that the site he actually read - PUAHate - hates TheRedPill and ROK. It's like saying "he's a racist because he was reading IHateRacists.com" all the time. I can't believe feminists are working this story into something about them.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 06:45 PM
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To be fair, I feel like what happened is that the Left (I'm a liberal myself btw) got a little rediculous. The right came along, copied them and one-upped them by making themselves even more absurd. While I loathe and hate it, you gotta admit it seems to work ok for them.
/r/MensRights29/05/14 06:41 PM
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The chart here is also very revealing. MSNBC is nothing more than a liberal outlet, for liberals to circlejerk about how great other liberals are and how all conservatives are "racists" and "sexists" While that's true, is that really worse? I'm reminded of "An open enemy is better than a false friend". Is it worse to openly have an agenda than to actually be motivated by an agenda, but pretend you're "fair and balanced"? (I can't stand either btw)
/r/MensRights29/05/14 06:37 PM
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The only good thing about this piece is that they clearly identify the sites they're talking about: The Red Pill, Return of Kings, PUAHate. I couldn't watch the video (had thought it was an article), but the thing is all the credible articles I've read have only mentioned PUAHate and bodybuilding.com. They're basically trying to associate a guy who read a site dedicated to hating sites like The Red Pill and Return of The Kings with a fan and reader of those sites. It's like saying "the killer wa…
/r/MensRights29/05/14 06:30 PM
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a) been legitimately invalidated by men while growing up. Sorry to say, is still a real thing. It's a bad thing too because it helps breed hateful people like this. Yeah, but the problem is when these people's solution is to pretend their fighting for equality but what they're craving is to reverse the situation - make it so that men cannot invalidate women, but women can easily invalidate men. Their words say "I want to stop bullying", but their actions say "I want to change things so I'm the b…
/r/MensRights29/05/14 06:19 PM
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Here's the thing - as a guy, women will often tell you that they have a boyfriend if they have one. But they pretty much never tell you they're single. However, single women usually assume that you will "know" they're single. If you're less attractive (be attractive, don't be unnattractive - and fyi I'm not referring specifically to appearance for attractiveness), women will sometimes viciously shut you down, say terrible things about to to all their friends, and this is not only emotionally pai…
/r/MensRights29/05/14 06:06 PM
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I can't speak for everyone here, but I'm downvoting this post because it is not on the topic of men's rights. It would be more appropriate for a forum such as /r/AskMen or /r/Relationships. I, for one, disagree strongly. If feminism makes a lot of claims about what it's like to be a man (usually painting men as some sort of evil unknowable other), how would it not be a Men's Rights issue to give an accurate impression of what it's actually like to be a guy, to women who are curious? (To be fair,…
/r/MensRights29/05/14 05:04 PM
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For the other cases look at government statistics, in the US white women are very safe. Men are not more a danger to them than parents are to their small children. Sometimes you do have reasons, but this whole all women thing seems to be just a way of using women's fear for political gains. Yes, you hit the nail on the head, but it's far deeper than that. Even simply repeating their framing is them winning. They choose "not all men" as the phrasing because when you repeat it to say it's crap, yo…
/r/MensRights29/05/14 04:22 PM
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The problem with those girls/women is that they are almost always married by 25, to their first or second partner. I doubt Red Pillers and "Good Girls" have any social overlap. Yeah, it's hard to get a dataset on what works for them. The important stuff happens in private, and they only seem to have 1-3 partners - it's almost impossible to experiment to find out what works with them.
/r/TheRedPill29/05/14 08:32 AM
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I think the advantage of Game is that it deals with what actual women actually respond to, not what woman claim they respond to (which as anyone knows is rarely anything they actually like). The problem with Game is that it pointedly targets a dataset heavily favoring women who are incapable of being happy and satisfied in a relationship - women who are available for sex right now. I'm the kind of guy that "good girls" like. I've fucked it up again and again because I don't pursue them, and even…
/r/TheRedPill29/05/14 08:22 AM
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Feminism just takes it's usual approach - they complain about shaming when it suits them, and shame endlessly when it suits them as well. Ironically, how they fight the "horrors" of shaming is - by shaming you for shaming. It's almost kind of funny. Every single feminist-issue article is shaming men for something. Saying they're against shaming is just pretend - they're against the shaming they point out, and they enforce what they want by shaming you about it.
/r/TheRedPill29/05/14 07:52 AM
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Incidentally, it's funny how feminists fail to realize how outrageously sexist against women this is. That basically says that being a woman is a mental handicap which makes them less capable of rational decision making than men. Yeah...they choose to fail to understand it because it benefits them - Upton Sinclair — 'It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.'
/r/TheRedPill29/05/14 07:42 AM
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That said, where do yo think GGs can be found? What is their habitat? Haha They're almost all in their freshman year of college, a few reach the end of college and realize they missed something and I've seen them pair up. Or, frankly, they're just not very attractive. Easier to find a genuine good girl in the less attractive crowd.
/r/TheRedPill29/05/14 07:11 AM
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Children who are raised strictly often have a great deal of respect for their parents willpower and fear their parents enough to follow their rules. Lol... Seems like one of two things happens - either the kid never develops a backbone of their own, so the kid is either single forever or ends up getting married to a dominating and controlling personality like their parents. Or the kid learns to be more and more deceptive and duplicitous.
/r/TheRedPill29/05/14 07:05 AM
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...your post just supported the other commenters point, your grandmother still did it despite being cut off of a huge amount of money and family. That's evidence that the parents cannot control their children through this.
/r/TheRedPill29/05/14 07:03 AM
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You have a couple of problems: Women are mainly the ones raising children. They pretty much indoctrinate children however they want. That's what "teach your small child not to rape" is about - trying to get mothers to indoctrinate boys as children with the idea that women are their superiors. Feminism makes a point of avoiding addressing the reason why many women are so awful these days - it has nothing to do with men, and everything to do with how women treat other women when they're younger. E…
/r/TheRedPill29/05/14 06:47 AM
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What's ironic is that while it increases women's social power, it requires them to act like above, so it makes them miserable and unhappy women try to conform to the victim mold. Back in the day when I was going to high school and college, it was "I am suicidal and have an eating disorder so I'm important". You will now see women trying to make their lives into a living hell, to comform with the "everyday harrassment" meme for things they used to not think much of. This is why most actual women …
/r/TheRedPill29/05/14 06:12 AM
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Did you hear about the Jonas brothers "promise rings"? They were a performance group who's main audience was below-18 girls. They made a big deal about how they wore promise rings, and would never have sex before marriage. Eventually, someone figured out that this was a marketing thing - it allowed the Jonas Brothers to talk about sex and let their female audience think of them as sexual, while appearing to not be talking about it. One couldn't publicly say "I'm marketing this band as sex object…
/r/TheRedPill28/05/14 09:34 PM
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Rape is a euphemism for communicating to girls that "attraction and sex is dangerous and you should be afraid of it". It's effective because it's parallel - actual rape - is not something one can ever be completely dismissive of. The rape narrative is used to communicate to them that sex is dangerous, that they should be afraid of it, and that they should avoid it. Now it's not the only message they get, it's one of many, but rape represents "sex a girl shouldn't be having". "stranger rape" was …
/r/TheRedPill28/05/14 09:21 PM
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I have NEVER met a woman who didn't allude at some point to her fear of being raped and murdered. I'm not agreeing with the other poster, fyi. But the question is - how much of that fear is realistic? I've known many women who were convinced they were in danger of being murdered - in reality, men are statistically 3 times more likely to be murdered than women are. And that's "murdered" - what is it, women live 7 years longer than men? Men take riskier jobs, magnitudes more likely to successfully…
/r/TheRedPill28/05/14 09:08 PM
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I love how in Law and Order every single guy is either a rapist, murderer, or some combination of the two. If you started noticing, at some point between 1995 and 2005, it was nearly impossible to find consensual sex on tv. That 70's Show was about the only exception, and it was set in a different time period. "Rape" is the newest boogeyman to scare women about sex. Like how in the 70's, the Shark/Serial Killer/Supernatural evil being always ate the promiscious girl, "rape" is the new thing that…
/r/TheRedPill28/05/14 08:59 PM
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Most rapes are committed by "trusted" relatives or family friends. I think you're confusing rape with child molestation. That's true of child molestation, but not rape (well child molestation is rape, but you get the idea).
/r/TheRedPill28/05/14 08:54 PM
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sigh This post is stupid, one of these "impossible bitter fantasy" posts. How are you going to hit on other women when she's around if you cut off ALL contact? If you don't have any contact with her, she's never going to be around. When would she be confronting you if you have NO contact with her? How would you explain you're seeing better women - if you have NO contact with her? If you're going to get drug in again and again, then just get out completely. It's bad for you to get used to a patte…
/r/TheRedPill28/05/14 07:33 PM
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I'm a little torn on this. Part of the feminist approach (and all political approaches) is to silence their opposition. Getting your opposition to silence themselves while having open access to talk about your own agenda is usually the goal. I remember in Game, guys would talk about saying something that the lead of the group disagreed with, he would drop the subject, but later members of the group would come up to him and ask him questions and be curious about it (in Game it was usually women -…
/r/TheRedPill28/05/14 05:51 PM
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Great post, and totally true. But his video demonstrates the dark but reality-true aspect of game. When he goes up to a woman and accuses of her only going for guys who aren't him, what happens? She keeps talking to him, trying to understand why he's saying what he's saying. But when he's friendly and relaxed and says "Nice to meet you" in a friendly and a little apprehensive way that he's a little nervous about her or something, what does she do? - she keep walking and pointedly blows him off. …
/r/TheRedPill28/05/14 04:36 PM
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Thanks for sharing the story.
/r/TheRedPill28/05/14 06:27 AM
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Did you notice how quickly feminist started shouting and making noise here? How strongly they yelled immediately? An overreaction usually means they're trying to cover something up. I don't think they want anyone to get around to discussing the real issues: 1. The tendency of men to get angry at women and take it out on other men who are not involved at all. I've only gone to the bar around 10 times, and twice I've been involved in a situation where a drunk women blatantly tries to get some guys…
/r/TheRedPill28/05/14 04:51 AM
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oh .. um .. 2003 I think. I don't know what it's like today though. When I used it, everyone was hooking up on it Ha, about 10 years ago like I guessed...
/r/TheRedPill27/05/14 11:31 PM
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Nice. I decided that I am just not in the mood to engage anyone in this right now, especially on the internet. Ha, that's totally cool. What I think is funny is that I'm seeing article after article saying it's not about male entitlement crap on my own facebook page. On the one hand it's good that I'm seeing this being more mainstream. On the other hand, if that's reaching mainstream it gives me the uncomfortable impression there's more to the feminist tactic here, but that's another topic...
/r/TheRedPill27/05/14 11:30 PM
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I don't think anyone is blaming PUA. Oh, no, dude. All of the feminists are trying to blame everything in the manosphere for this - pua, seen at least one red pill, mra's, etc. It's the usual "let's hate on men and everything male related" bit from feminism. People who are nuts just grab and use non-sensical sayings. His using both PUA terms and other opposite-of-pua terms is what leads me to say he just nuts.
/r/PurplePillDebate27/05/14 11:26 PM
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Your comment does not relate to mine. Mine is choosing to not sleep with one chick, so that you avoid losing social proof and can sleep with several others. Yours is standing up for yourself, consequences be damned. It's completely different.
/r/TheRedPill27/05/14 11:18 PM
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Go hard or go home man. It's the same excuse as girls use when they say "I don't wanna lift weights cause I'll look like Arnold Schwarzenegger". At it's absolute worst it teaches you discipline. Lol, the easiest place to find male hamstering is the definitely male weightlifting. If you've given up on meetings your own goals and doing things for yourself, to substitute in cliche sayings from a narcissistic trainer, that's your call. If your goal is to have sex and enjoy yourself, and you're stupi…
/r/TheRedPill27/05/14 11:15 PM
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They think what impresses girls is the same as what will impress guys. If you sleep with a ton of beautiful women, they will find that attractive, so they think if they sleep with enough players it will make them more attractive. You missed the point I was saying - I could see that, except that when I turned it around and directly talk about the other girls I've been dating (doing exactly what they're doing) they get turned off and don't want to talk about it. If me talking about girls in the sa…
/r/TheRedPill27/05/14 11:06 PM
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In the USA, for example, the rate of entreneurship and small-business ownership among immigrants is something like 10 times the rate among native-born Americans. I get your point, but do those immigrants just abandon their efforts the moment a white person gets mad at them? Do they leave the US and go back to their home country? I don't disagree with the philosophy you're talking about, but I do disagree that it's applicable here - someone's ability to start anew is different than them being so …
/r/TheRedPill27/05/14 10:52 PM
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For the "you never see feminists shooting people!" argument, I just want to point out that there is definitely an equivalent - The Hyped Campus Rape That Wasn't http://www.mindingthecampus.com/originals/2013/11/is_this_a_campus_rape_well_no.html This was the one where someone filmed a guy performing oral sex on a girl, then the girl got socially embarrassed by it and despite clearly being into it in the video (even passing a test of "enthusiastic consent") accused him of rape. Even when the vide…
/r/TheRedPill27/05/14 07:10 PM
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Haha, yeah, I'm not sure how to respond either. Some male feminists will double down - they're getting hate because they're "fighting the patriarchy". Others I've seen honestly think what they're reading is "the truth", and when other guys get angry at them they back off of it. Hard to say... The only thing I've had success with is posting facts, waiting for people to blow themselves out of shape in anger about it, and refusing to delve into it further and just pointing out their overreaction. L…
/r/TheRedPill27/05/14 07:03 PM
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I met my wife on Match.com. I know .. not very redpill. What was the year though? I've known couples to meet online from 10 years ago when it was new. It was sadly when it become more socially acceptable that online become for of a place for nothing but attention whoring.
/r/TheRedPill27/05/14 06:33 PM
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Yeah, if you want to see how feminist issue articles are really written, you can even check out his first draft where he more nakedly expresses all the elements of a feminist article - hatred of men, hatred of men wanting sex, hatred of masculinity, etc, and how they simply use anything that happens as a tool to promote their agenda. This is the draft that was published on the topic - http://drnerdlove.tumblr.com/post/86730939831/shame-virginity-mras-and-the-uc-santa-barbara Then this is the fin…
/r/TheRedPill27/05/14 05:40 PM
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I don't know any feminist that go on shooting rampages when they don't get their way This is what they do instead: "The Hyped Campus Rape That Wasn't" http://www.mindingthecampus.com/originals/2013/11/is_this_a_campus_rape_well_no.html Woman take the follow role in society and prefer to get others to do their dirty work for them. Rather than a man who goes out and shoots people, angry unhinged feminists get a mob to try to send a completely innocent man to jail for rape (sometimes for life) and …
/r/TheRedPill27/05/14 05:23 PM
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I think he's just nuts, and like any narcissist was looking for any idea to use to gain fame. This is one of the things that stands out as being the total opposite of the red pill: "I am the supreme gentleman, so why don't these awful sluts give me the sex I deserve?" Ugh." The Red Pill is very consistent in saying that being a gentlemen is a great way to make sure women are not attracted to you at all. In fact, it goes to far that way, in my experience. Even the most angry and bitter side of TR…
/r/PurplePillDebate25/05/14 05:34 AM
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Women (and Beta males) prefer pretty lies to potentially toxic truths. They will conceal and dress up the truth to make it more attractive and tasteful. They will sacrifice truth to maintain social and emotional balance. Men see that as deceptive and untrustworthy. Men will expose and strip the truth down to the point of naked and unappealing. Women see that as ungraceful, indiscreet and untrustworthy. A reckless truth-teller is toxic and threatening within a social environment. What's interesti…
/r/TheRedPill25/05/14 01:42 AM
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later told mom the dog shouldn't be walked into the house and made to ignore the owners. she told me the dog tells her what he likes and that she won't act to suppress his nature because he "communicates" his needs to her and she respects his wishes. This is what the other poster meant about "seriously mentally damaged" - they don't mean that as a euphemism, he means this chick likely genuinely clinically emotionally unbalanced. That her mother acts that way is a huge sign that it simply runs in…
/r/TheRedPill25/05/14 01:34 AM
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Wow, that is a really interesting thought. A while back I doing push/pull with a girl, I was in another state, and finally she was giving in - and my own hamster kicked in making me feel bad like "She's really going to get involved with you, then you're going to leave and she's going to get hurt". I backed off. Next day I realized - what an idiot I was being. She knew I was from out of state and I was considering moving but by no means committed to it. She could handle her own emotions. In reali…
/r/TheRedPill25/05/14 12:59 AM
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Yeah, what pisses me most about /TRP/ is that is acts like it's only women who have hamster. No, it's both men and women. Men also aren't rational. True...it kinda gets at the point that when it comes to dating women have much bigger hamsters, but people try to make it this rediculous thing where men don't, and they do, it's just not as big when it comes to dating.
/r/TheRedPill25/05/14 12:53 AM
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I think you're spot on. Especially your description of how she listed off the excuses like she was looking for one that would stick. It reminds me of a situation where the girl is looking to feel like her self worth has gone down, and she wants to "prove" that she's better than she actually is. If she can't win by being your girlfriend, she'll go down the route of trying to villify you to everyone you know to make herself feel better. Since I wasn't there, I agree with the other "don't doubt you…
/r/TheRedPill25/05/14 12:29 AM
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may follow the bodybuilders workout/lifestyle. I may diet to shed fat and have the look. I may go buy all the supplements needed to fit that lifestyle. But I am NOT a bodybuilder nor am I an athlete training for anything. I go to the gym to better myself. Not being able to enjoy at least those fruits of added testosterone, better self confidence and a more alpha frame. AND I am following a strict diet of no alcohol, no fatty foods, no sugars. Come on man your killing me. Am I right or wrong for …
/r/TheRedPill19/05/14 05:33 PM
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You have a good point, but the question is whether this is a one time thing or an indication of his trainers overall skill level. Some people believe a few odd things, but for a lot of other people saying stuff like that is a distraction to cover up that they don't know anything useful about the actual subject either. Working with a trainer who's an idiot and knows less than I do is demotivating, and is stupid as I'd be paying them. There's to many trainers who use bro-logic to cover up the fact…
/r/TheRedPill19/05/14 05:10 PM
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Lol, this whole post takes on a whole different angle if his trainer is a hot girl and is referring to what he does with her... ;-)
/r/TheRedPill19/05/14 04:48 PM
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The trainer is a crackpot because this guy isn't training for the olympics, competing seriously, or anything like that. It's like telling someone who's just looking to get into shape that they need to quite their job, move to the mountains, and train at high elevations because that's what olympic athletes do. Or telling someone looking to bike into their job to buy a $10,000 wheelset because that's what Lance Armstrong does. Etc. That's what makes the trainer a crackpot. (Not to mention that you…
/r/TheRedPill19/05/14 04:48 PM
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See, the reason why I don't have a problem believing this story is that stuff like this has happened to me. I dated this girl when she was in college and I was post college. We went out for a month. We made out a fair amount, but it was never great - she was visually cute, but she just didn't have the emotions I like. Eventually we break up and she dates her beta orbiter, which is fine with me as she lived to far away and it wasn't working out. Eventually she graduates, moves back to my city, an…
/r/TheRedPill18/05/14 01:02 AM
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I think that is what happened with him, he was taken advantage of by a woman at one point in his life and used to follow advice on the internet. It fucked up his relationship pretty bad and since then hes been pissed off at the internet world. Ha, nice! It was spot on. :-) Your right about the fear of not knowing where you would end up with if you follow a certain path, but isnt that what TRP is all about anyway? Taking risks etc? Has TRP helped you in other aspects of life besides dating? Actua…
/r/TheRedPill17/05/14 11:47 PM
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That's true about movements, but I don't want to comment to much because it kind of gets away from my point. I just think it's kinda crazy how women have become convinced that they were "oppressed" in a time when they apparently seemed to be happier, felt more rewarded, generally seemed to have a better life. I get the feeling that while feminism paints history as "women weren't allowed to work!" I'm just not sure it's true. In WWII women easily went off to work in factories because the men were…
/r/TheRedPill17/05/14 11:36 PM
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You know, that's not actually what I usually see them saying. That's - frankly - the saying of the rich white men. The rich white women sits in her air conditioned home that's payed for by the rich white man, while the poor men and women can't afford air conditioning. She has plenty of spare time to read the internet and write, something neither the poor man or woman has. And she comes up with articles about how "oppressed" she is while both the rich white man and poor white man are at work, not…
/r/TheRedPill17/05/14 07:32 PM
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And believing that every pauper they spit on gets treated like a king by everyone else. In fact, any ol' serf could be royalty if he wasn't so bitter. I actually don't read a side of feminism that says that. What I see is the prince believing and acting like the people in ghetto are living the same lifestyle he is, and claiming they're all commonly "oppressed" by the king. They describe it themselves - about privilege and entitlement being an invisible and something handed you to without you ear…
/r/TheRedPill17/05/14 07:25 PM
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First, your "bla bla bla you're lazy" shaming language is yawn. Oh no, someone called me lazy on the internet! Second, selectively quoting some bit of science is not "proof" of anything. If I wanted to waste my time researching it, I know I've read article before about chemicals released in the brain relating to pair bonding. Together, your Coolidge Effect vs Pair Bonding, it doesn't support you, it supports what the OP was saying - that different people are different, and want different things,…
/r/TheRedPill17/05/14 07:14 PM
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...wtf? lol
/r/TheRedPill17/05/14 06:54 PM
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You're confusing Alpha and Gamma. If you aren't prepared to walk away from any situation when it no longer serves your needs, then that weakness will be used against you. It is weak to have to walk away from a situation that is serving your needs and you are powerful in, to go to a situation where you an a low power outsider - no established social relationships, a completely different language, a culture you don't understand. It's far more alpha to avoid letting your situation deteriorate into …
/r/TheRedPill17/05/14 06:04 PM
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is your assumption that women are logical and can think with reason I'm not Archwinger, but I wanted to point something out - the original post never used the word "logical", it used the word "intelligent". Logic is not the only way of thinking, emotional thinking is more pattern based, and whether logical thinking is best depends on your situation. Logic is best in situations where you know all the facts, where you can be confident there's no flaws in your logical thinking (because logic is bri…
/r/TheRedPill17/05/14 05:21 PM
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The republicans of Lincoln are not the republicans of today. The NRA armed the slaves? no. There was a shift in the parties political paradigm over the past 150 years that you don't seem to be aware of. Exactly - After the Civil War, Republicans passed laws that granted protections for African Americans and advanced social justice; again, Democrats largely opposed these expansions of power.
/r/TheRedPill17/05/14 04:45 PM
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I believe the truth is actually that the parties today are the reverse of the parties over a hundred years ago. I believe the Republicans of then were ivory tower head-in-the-clouds intellectuals, and the Democrats were more conservative ones.
/r/TheRedPill17/05/14 04:43 PM
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And you know what? The stockmarkets have never flourished more than they have now. DOW Jones just hit its all-time high a few days ago Right, which is tied to - young white women in this generation were experiencing more illnesses, more stress, and dying earlier than women in the previous generation
/r/TheRedPill17/05/14 04:34 PM
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Sadly, being forced to do anything, even something that many find satisfying, is being oppressed. I wouldn't go that far - by that definition, all human beings are oppressed. Everyone needs food, water, and shelter, so we're all forced into jobs. If you were born rich, you're forced to manage your money in some way. Etc. Seeing how easily and eagerly feminists (well let's be fair, almost every major political cause is like this, George Orwell's Animal Farm describes feminism, but it's written as…
/r/TheRedPill17/05/14 04:31 PM
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Or rather: He was offended by the fact that the women weren't offended, as he thinks they should be. Yeah, this is what I thought to. He thinks feminism is Straight Talk - actually meaning what it says. When it's really Power Talk - carefully nuanced language that may or may not be true. He's been convinced that all women would be horribly, horribly offended by that joke. He's probably truly shocked to see them laughing and still friends with the guy, emotionally he's still upset because he's co…
/r/TheRedPill17/05/14 04:26 PM
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You mentioned working in a different setting where this type of stuff would not be appropriate. OP knows his environment more than us and knows what he can and can't do. I'm sure he has enough intelligence to know that this varies from place to place. +1, it's called "social calibration", it's far better than the "be afraid, be constantly afraid" approach.
/r/TheRedPill17/05/14 04:22 PM
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Frankly, that's not even Beta, that's into Gamma/Omega territory - you don't talk to anyone because you're both so low status and so socially uncalibrated that you might talk to someone and get fired. It's something you might have to do if you absolutely need your job, or actually are unlikely or so socially clueless you say things genuinely without knowing they're offensive. But it's low value, and frankly, out of date. Watch an episode of "The Office" - the knee jerk "you're fired for saying s…
/r/TheRedPill17/05/14 04:18 PM
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One of the problems with reaching for help, is that as a guy, so much of the "help" is utter bullshit or stuff that actively makes things worse for you. It's a skill in and of itself to figure out what makes sense and what is crap. Just look at dating advice right now. I've benefited greatly from Game and TRP. But do you know why TRP was so beneficial? It's because before that, I was reading other "help" sites about women, which basically parrotted back feminist "don't ever have sex or date" lev…
/r/TheRedPill17/05/14 01:04 AM
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The question is how far you're willing to compromise intellectual rigor to cater to the weaknesses of others. That depends on if you're Sheldon Cooper and believe that logic is the only "non weak" means of thinking. Logic has 2 major problems with it: 1. You need to know all the fact to draw the accurate conclusion 2. It's brittle, in that making a single mistake can give you the exact opposite of the correct conclusion 3. Your facts actually need to be right. This is you see very smart logical …
/r/TheRedPill17/05/14 12:30 AM
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The other response of - "yeah I do like calling the shots. I like taking the lead." Is great, but I think a lot of the posters are stuck in the "must keep gaming" phase. If it's over and you're ok with that, she's going to start saying things to convince herself that there were "reasons" it didn't work out to protect her ego and emotions so she doesn't feel like "it didn't work out because I suck and I'm not attractive". I think your response was pretty much fine, assuming that you're ok with th…
/r/TheRedPill17/05/14 12:11 AM
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I thought you replies were decent enough. It's always easy for others to monday morning QB the words you are saying in real-time. It's easy to speculate about the context as well. In one context her response is "come do me after dinner", in another context it's "I'm supposed to drain all the emotion out of this now that we broke up, so let's hang out until that happens".
/r/TheRedPill17/05/14 12:03 AM
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Women think that they want power. They don't. They want the illusion of power. They think they want power, but the want "follow" power - not having any of the stress or the responsibility of actually making decisions, but the feeling like they're part of making decisions. They'd like decisions like a child would like their parents to ask them "Do you want to go to Disney World, or do you want us to buy you a 4 wheeler?". It's not necessarily bad to ask the girl what she wants, as long as you're …
/r/TheRedPill17/05/14 12:01 AM
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Take note of precisely what women/feminists typically claim to be a bad imbalance of power that causes said "mind control." Any factor that boosts a man's sexual value. It's so engrained that sexual value for men is evil and wrong, that even people here on TRP tend to get shamey when it's brought up. Oh man, that is just a great post. Since I started reading and watching certain Game work, I crack up every time I read someone online claiming that a relationship is wrong "because of the power dif…
/r/TheRedPill16/05/14 11:31 PM
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Feminism accuses The Red Pill and other man-centered sites of preying on poor souls that are lost in this chaotic and unfair world and filling their head with lies, hatred, and failing strategies that will ultimately make everyone involved unhappy. Does that sound like projecting to you? Lol, yeah, exactly. The concepts of privilege is true - but who's more privileged than the middle class white women who are part of feminism? Entitlement? Who is possibly more entitled than the middle class whit…
/r/TheRedPill16/05/14 10:49 PM
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Instead of being easier, life is infinitely more complicated and stressful for today's young women. Most of my female friends actually wish they had the ability to stay at home with children while their husband works - they see this as a luxury because the cost of living is so damn high. The reality is that both sexes are required to work in order to even stay afloat in this crazy economy. This is what I find interesting about the origins of feminism - it manages to convince woman that they were…
/r/TheRedPill16/05/14 10:33 PM
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Why do you think that? Is that something an anthropologist said, or is it just a made up narrative to support the idea that women are always victims? Yeah, or to be more accurate, you take a very rare and worst case scenario, and repeat it over and over again so many times that people become convinced that it was common. They have the plausible deniability of saying that technically it's true in some small number of situations, while actively spreading their agenda. In ancient times, it was undo…
/r/TheRedPill16/05/14 10:20 PM
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Edit: If you want to ask a question about one of your personal relationships its /r/asktrp, if you want to say "trp works" or something along those lines then its /r/thanktrp - do not post that shit here. Why? When I joined TRP, it was a huge relief to be part of something where people pointed out and agreed with women's absurdity, rather than always acting "offended" when someone wanted to talk about how absurd something feminism or women was saying. But nowadays I feel like the whole forum is …
/r/TheRedPill16/05/14 10:03 PM
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Right, 'manipulated' suddenly becomes 'encouraged' in a positive light. Awesome to hear back, exactly. :-) I can totally relate on the whole mother convincing the neighborhood story by the way. Lol, I'm sorry to hear that... I'm not the one who got damaged the most by that though, I'm fairly independent and moved out with my dad when my parents got divorced. It's my younger brother who got it - he's 30, has never moved out from my mothers place, and acts like he's 10-12 (it's not a mental disord…
/r/TheRedPill16/05/14 09:25 PM
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Manipulation is possible, the problem is that manipulation has become a word that means "bad" when the person doesn't like the outcome, but if they do like the outcome they don't use the word manipulated - no matter how much the actions are the same. Of the two genders, women engage in and are far more practiced at manipulation than men. Men are more likely to be an upfront ass, women are more likely to manipulate to be a complete jerk without appearing responsible for it. The guy in the above s…
/r/TheRedPill16/05/14 08:09 PM
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Yawn, please keep your political rambling in another forum. I could debate exactly how the right does the same thing and worse, just using different mechanisms, but the TRP isn't the place for a political echo chamber (anyone repeating rhetoric blaming the other sides for all of societies problems, etc etc). The left and the right do the same thing, they just use the different terms - the left calls it a physchological problem, the right defines it as immoral. It's the same thing, claiming that …
/r/TheRedPill16/05/14 07:40 PM
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Yeah, I knew a friend who spun plates. He introduced me to Game and TRP, and for that I'm thankful, but there was nothing in his lifestyle that actually made his sex with multiple women sound better than sex with my last girlfriend. The girls he was hooking up with ranged from something I wouldn't touch with a 10 foot pole, to pretty attractive but pretty dark triad herself. It's funny that you mention "trying to receive validation from others", what else would you call your post trying to convi…
/r/TheRedPill16/05/14 06:02 PM
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Yeah, they're definitely not a plate if you're just flirting with them. You have to be sleeping with them. (There might be a little ambiguity if you're, say, getting off but not technically having sex, but it always involves physical and explicity sexual contact.)
/r/TheRedPill16/05/14 05:56 PM
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When I was beta and married, my wife attacked me and I called the police. The police officer laughed at me because I couldn't defend myself against a woman. To be fair here though, in real world reality there's no good move there but if you're going to end up with a divorce anyways that's probably the best one. With a record of you calling the cops, and the cops confirming that she attacked you, it's more difficult for her to manipulative use the system to claim you attacked her first. An offici…
/r/TheRedPill16/05/14 05:31 PM
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I'd be curious to...it's been my experience (though admittedly I'm a white guy) that it's a lot like with women, act alpha, but hold my frame no matter what challenges to it. Don't get mad, but don't look for more than casual sympathy either. It's like with women - I feel like I'm important and have authority, so giving the cop some respect back makes it meaningful. Whereas acting like you don't have authority and giving them respect gets you nothing. I mean have you seen what the cops do, lol? …
/r/TheRedPill16/05/14 05:26 PM
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The Blue Pill on the other hand is the sand. It’s a system of sugar-coated, manipulative delusions created for the sole purpose of propagating the feminine imperative at the cost of the masculine. But you know that. Meh, I liked where you were going at first, but here you just went into silly nihilism. I'll make an example - take Game of Thrones. The Starks are as blue pill as possible. When they jump into an environment run and filled with dark triad characters, and expect them to act in a blue…
/r/TheRedPill16/05/14 05:12 PM
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it wasn't my change of behavior that got me into trouble. it was my brutal honesty and bluntness. asking inappropriate questions and challenging people's thoughts/behaviors/opinions. Which I now realize provides me no benefit. it doesn't give me more power, more sex, more money. it just pisses people off. stupid huh? I've got to act more purposefully. Thanks for the input Yeah, that's what I've found. Sometimes I really want to, and I've fallen back to simply saying a counterpoint, then refusing…
/r/TheRedPill16/05/14 04:49 PM
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Agree, and the "both genders are actually screwed" part of this is that a girl who's been genuinely emotionally traumatized by actually being raped, a lot of times doesn't want to go through reliving it again, and won't report it to the police. It is sad, and a shitty system I'm not sure what to do about. But the girl who just regrets who she slept with? Or the girl just trying to get someone in trouble? Those girls are MUCH more comfortable going through the process of accusing the guy. They're…
/r/TheRedPill16/05/14 03:45 PM
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Girls I follow on twitter are constantly broadcasting how unsafe and rapey our campus is, even though it has one of the most unathletic and insecure male student bodies in the country (I don't think our football team has ever won a game) and it's only ~40% male with the inclusion of Barnard to begin with. I'm sadly not surprised. It's actually not as bad now as it was, but between about 1995 and 2005, it was difficult to find any characters on tv or in movies who had sex who weren't rapists. "ra…
/r/TheRedPill16/05/14 03:41 PM
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Leaving the party was a form of "mate guarding". It also showed that he was shamed in the group/party, and ceded the party to the ex and his new fucktoy. That's a beta move. I don't agree. That works fine if you're spinning up another plate - you're not "afraid" of her sexual history and whatnot, but what do you think it says when you find out that someone who lied directly to you lied and you act like it's not big deal and it happens all the time? It's saying you're gamma/omega. It says that yo…
/r/TheRedPill13/05/14 05:37 PM
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His only fault I should say is pressing the girl at the start of the relationship if "there are things that she's done that might be an embarrassment for him in the future". This is a no no. This is projecting your values and standards. This is not the way to deal with women. A woman will lie and hamster away and will tell you what you want to hear. She's well aware of the female imperative. She know that women round down while men round up. That's interesting - I was going to disagree, but I go…
/r/TheRedPill13/05/14 05:31 PM
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also agree It's hardly alpha to uproot your life, and both work and social relationships, all because a woman wanted something from you. That's about as Gamma/Omega as you can get.
/r/TheRedPill13/05/14 04:57 PM
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I honestly think that all of these people are full of it. More than 50% of long term relationships of people I've known (and apparently, everyone) that were post-school came from dating someone they knew at work. In real life, I've personally seen several people say "don't shit where you eat", then turn around and date or sleep with several people they work with. I kinda feel like they say that because they don't want competition, or the "real" meaning is one of those shit-tests, where you have …
/r/TheRedPill13/05/14 04:52 PM
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Ha, I was going to write the same thing. The problem with video games is that I can play them forever.
/r/TheRedPill13/05/14 04:27 PM
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Having a big dick is alpha. That's just straight up stupid. Alpha is a description of social status and behavior, that's like saying blue smells good. Whether you think it's attractive or not, it's impossible for it to be alpha, unless you're hanging around with a bunch of gay guys who actually follow the guy with the biggest wang.
/r/TheRedPill13/05/14 04:24 PM
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Was this "well known" and "lots of research" done by the American Institute of Hyperbole? I've known several women who say they wanted a big dick. One in particular claimed this guy she was seeing (but obviously not terribly attracted to) had a small dick and that was the problem. 4 years later, she's dating a different guy who basically the same size dick, but - she's head over heels for him (he had a bit of dark triad), she could't have cared less. A recent friend of mine was kind of laughing …
/r/TheRedPill13/05/14 04:22 PM
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Its as if they need to find some problem in their lives to work on. They live in a relative utopia, yet to them the world is full of issues that they must fix. I grew up with the milder (than the video) version of these people in childhood, high school, and college. And for the sake of argument, let's say that I want all women to get all the power and men to be slaves - I still wouldn't follow these people. They're fundamentally flawed and broken, people who create and maintain a flawed and brok…
/r/TheRedPill13/05/14 04:10 PM
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Maybe I should expand on this and make a post... Seems a bit too "men's rightsy", though. Yeah, I'm always really really torn on whether I think this gets into mra territory or not (not that mra territory is bad, the question is just whether or not it belongs in trp rather than the mra forum). On the one hand, it's clearly mra material. On the other hand, TRP is about seeing through the bullshit, and I know that I personally had to be able to see through the faux hurt and emotional traumatizatio…
/r/TheRedPill13/05/14 03:49 PM
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I remember the last time I went to the car dealership to get a fucking key replaced, the salesman starts checking my vehicle before I agree to anything and telling me "okay I'm going to do this basic inspection which is gonna be about $120 and then I'll get started on the key" and I'm like "Excuse me? I don't want an inspection and I'm not paying for anything other than my key replacement." He instantly apologizes and says ok. This motherfucker starts randomly doing some bullshit check without m…
/r/TheRedPill12/05/14 09:05 AM
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Yes to all 3. The OP said this - "In many areas of life, I've found success by locating people who excel and observing and emulating them." There is a huge difference between asking and observing. I've recently found that to really get good advice from people, I kind of half to sidetalk asking for it - tell a story from me, then wait for them to reciprocate. It seems to somewhat bypass what becomes an ingrained response to white wash their history into power talk. Still, it's just plain difficul…
/r/TheRedPill12/05/14 08:49 AM
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+1 I know, I know, I should just upvote (which I also did), but I wanted to comment that this is totally the case. Reading is something that gets you a start, but you never get to the top tier by reading, because the people being #1 successful are to busy doing it (and lack a reward for doing so) to come and describe to everyone how they did it. It's not hopeless to read, or no one would do it. But the people who have the most time to guide other people are the people who aren't being that succe…
/r/TheRedPill12/05/14 08:43 AM
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Other Red Pill series (sometimes except for the ending, where suddenly they slather a blue pill ending on an entire red pill plotline): Anything by Nicholas Sparks, particularly The Notebook. Yes, the ending is blue pill lameness, but this is how a lot of women actually think - that after the dark triad guy who meets them on a date with someone else and recklessly pursues them, including when both characters are engadged to other people, will somehow in the end lead to a lifelong romance. It's h…
/r/TheRedPill12/05/14 08:37 AM
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Interesting...I wrote up reply disagreeing with you, but at the end I realized I had misread your post slightly and my disagreement didn't make any sense. Good: You can't do it tomorrow, but you can do it (another specific time). Bad: Saying you can't do it because you're busy, without making specific other plans. It's just my experience, but I've made the mistake before when a girl contacted me wanting to get together of going with the "I'm busy" without making specific plans. They take it as y…
/r/TheRedPill12/05/14 08:27 AM
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I loathe the word "consent" for these situations, but other than that I agree with you. If a situation where the girl feels some sort of obligation to put up defenses I can see where the other poster is coming from, but in more normal social situations I've consistently and repeatedly found that you get the best response with an attitude like "I'm used to people wanting to talk to me, and I want to talk to you so I'm here - but if you want me to go away there's no chance I'm going to stay here a…
/r/TheRedPill09/05/14 08:56 PM
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She said that it was for everyone to care for and love each other, and that love made the world go round. That actually makes a lot of sense from her perspective. Women - especially in relationships - are follows. What makes sense for their worldview is not what makes sense for the lead. It's like asking an employee what makes them successful. Truth is, it's looking good in an interview, showing up to work fairly on time, and giving off an image that they're producing a lot (one way to give off …
/r/TheRedPill09/05/14 08:49 PM
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I feel like a lot of these posts are a bit of drama queens - I sympathize with the poster, but the conclusions seem a bit absurd. What seems to happen is - something huge happens, the guy unleashes all of his inner anxieties and fears in a huge explosion, the girl reacts badly, and suddenly someone is claiming "never show any weakness at all in front of women!". Overhyped Absurdity: All women can never handle any sign of weakness at all ever! Reality: Weakness is unnattractive, and the worst tim…
/r/TheRedPill09/05/14 08:39 PM
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They do have a lot to lose, the other poster is a bit over the top, but he has a completely valid point that they don't have nearly as much to lose as men do. Men are on the front lines fighting in the war. Lots and lots of men will often die even when they're on the winning side. Women, on the other hand, have historically only been victimized if the men were defeated, and after the majority of the men were slaughtered. The reason why women spend so much time about going on about women's victim…
/r/TheRedPill09/05/14 08:20 PM
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And like with women, you'll notice in sales that sometimes it works, sometimes it's welcomed and you get a positive respond, and sometimes it ticks people off. The key to being effective is experience and calibration.
/r/TheRedPill09/05/14 07:52 PM
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I wrote more, but then I erased it, because I realized it didn't really matter. Here's the problem - Anyways, I'm not saying you can't run game and get with girls. I'm only saying you need not worry too much about it. Take care of your priorities and the rest should be easy. "Take care of your priorities" is so vague as to be meaningless, because it doesn't define what "your priorities" are. For me personally, women liked me but didn't date or sleep with me while I was doing that. It wasn't unti…
/r/TheRedPill07/05/14 10:29 PM
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So you're going into the female-oriented "a man should be an emotionless object who never feels good about a women having sex with him" mentality? 1. If you train all summer for a marathon, then a day before the marathon someone shows up at your house, tells you you won, hands you the prize, and says you can show up for the race the next day if you want, but you don't need to - how likely are you to show up for the race? How likely are you to emotionally feel like you're proud and personally inv…
/r/TheRedPill07/05/14 07:59 PM
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That's not exactly what OP was implying or what people would have learned from his post. OP seems to say, "If you don't see results at first keep on trying for 10-15 years, you'll get there!" This isn't true. That's why I said I think you missed the point - I don't read the OP's post as saying "keep lifting even if you're not making gains", I read it as saying "once you're making gains it's important to be able to keep with lifting, rather than making short term gains them stopping lifting". I t…
/r/TheRedPill07/05/14 07:27 PM
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These responses fail hard because: These can totally fail like you're saying, but there's several things missing here: 1. Context - Those kind of responses work for a girl who's fanatically sidetalking about it trying to make themselves feel or look better. A response saying that she's going to have to try harder, or yeah you do seem like a slut - these are responses that are sidetalking back saying "I'm bored with going on about this, to keep things interest you're going to have to do something…
/r/TheRedPill07/05/14 06:44 PM
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Feminism claimed that men and women were biologically the same, and the differences between men and women were do to socialization. Well frankly, it looks like they were right. It's just that that long list of "dirty" or "nasty" things that men do? Now that they've socialized women to be men, women want to do those same exact things to. Take a list of feminist complaints about how "men" act from the 80's, and you have a list of things that modern feminists considering "empowering" now.
/r/TheRedPill07/05/14 06:25 PM
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Thanks for posting this. While I was a little concerned about mra material here (not because I disagree with it, but just because it's not the mra forum), it was an even and positive video rather than being the usual "bitter complaining" posts some things I'm tired of are.
/r/TheRedPill06/05/14 01:21 AM
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That could be true for some of them, but like this comment - It's a song that hints at date rape, but hey, just put three hot guys dancing to it and that makes it all right. Is getting at what the OP is saying. I partly agree and partly disagree with what you're saying. I upvoted your comment for being logical and not part of the "everybody agree" circlejerk (that happens in all forums everywhere).
/r/TheRedPill06/05/14 12:52 AM
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It's the less-attractive girl mating strategy. Sure, you're never going to sleep with a woman you find repulsive. But if you think you're never ever going to get the 8 that you want, you'll end up settling for the 5. When you become convinced that you should interpret all signs of interest from the 8 as her saying "I'm repulsed by you", eventually you have to settle for what you can get.
/r/TheRedPill06/05/14 12:48 AM
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It just straight up has nothing to do with rape. It's a little sketchy, in that he's trying to talk some girl with a boyfriend into sleeping with him, but that's the worst it is. Sex-hating feminists hate it because he's saying she is sexually interested in him, and they hate anything where the man is being sexually suggestive, or taking any power away from the woman to constantly pretend she doesn't like sex and isn't attracted to anyone. For sex hating feminists, sex == rape, and thus mentions…
/r/TheRedPill06/05/14 12:46 AM
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No, they don't, or they wouldn't go to such lengths to keep friendzoned beta orbiters around. Not wanting to sleep with them is not not liking them.
/r/TheRedPill06/05/14 12:42 AM
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If it doesn't concern one of these three things, it is trivial. This helps put things into perspective for me. Do the right things and girls will come your way. What do you think, red pillers? I think that an entire generation of guys had this attitude, but found that it didn't work. Men pursue, women decide - women don't show up at your door all by themselves. Your "women aren't important" attitude is a women's attitude. They can afford to look pretty, sit back, and wait for a man to come along…
/r/TheRedPill05/05/14 05:47 AM
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Before the girl went on the carousel? I don't know. After the girl has? My ex who I dated, then we broke up, then she friend zoned me hardcore later when we started hanging out again, went from "I don't want to ruin our friendship" to "I want you to come visit me...our sexual chemistry when we were going out was amazing (followed by a lot of stuff basically saying she hadn't found it with most other people)". But this happened clearly after she had been riding the carousel for a while. And I was…
/r/TheRedPill05/05/14 03:41 AM
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I think it strongly depends on the girl herself. I think people get a little confused about not rewarding the girl: Blue Pill - when you're rewarding her because you want her. Red Pill - Rewarding her because she did what you wanted, after she did it, is simply positive reinforcement. I'd be curious to hear other people's experiences though. The girls perspective changes somewhat after you've had sex. Before sex, she's in the gatekeeper role, and she's concentrated on not sleeping with the wrong…
/r/TheRedPill04/05/14 08:09 PM
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I agree with you that it's several groups all going for the same goal in different ways - mostly. And that there's to much criticism of one group vs another. That link is hilarious.
/r/TheRedPill04/05/14 07:58 PM
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Is that the new hamstering for men now? I mean he didn't say it once, he repeated it over and over again. I read TRP for as much straight talk as possible, not "say one thing but secretly mean something else" talk.
/r/TheRedPill04/05/14 07:55 PM
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I'm definitely not arguing that that's not possible, but at the same time it's real bad news when "women's" groups have influence, but men have no counter to it. It doesn't matter which topic we're talking about - whenever one side has influence and the other does not, over the long term the side with influence ends up with all the power.
/r/TheRedPill04/05/14 06:52 PM
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You will reach your natural peak in 3 years if you're doing it right. Guys who train for 10 years and make minimal or no gains are not doing it right. You missed the point. If you hit your peak in 3 years, then quit lifting, 10 years later you will not look good and be in good shape. But if you hit your peak in 3 years, and are still lifting 10 years later, you'll still be in good shape.
/r/TheRedPill04/05/14 06:47 PM
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It's a Lead/Follow dynamic. It's exactly like your job. Some guy on the street comes up to you and says "Can you go get me coffee?". You're like "what the fuck is this?" The guy who's your boss comes up to you and says "Can you go get me coffee?". Your reaction is totally different. If the guy is paying you 3 million a year - you're jumping all over yourself to get him the coffee.
/r/TheRedPill04/05/14 06:42 PM
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Galileo was found "vehemently suspect of heresy", namely of having held the opinions that the Sun lies motionless at the centre of the universe, that the Earth is not at its centre and moves, and that one may hold and defend an opinion as probable after it has been declared contrary to Holy Scripture. He was required to "abjure, curse and detest" those opinions.
/r/TheRedPill04/05/14 06:37 PM
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Actual victims Yes. I knew 4 girls in college who were raped. Guess what they all had in common? - They were terrified of being raped or attacked by a man. - 3 of the 4 involved getting really drunk with a guy they knew but not that well It was a creepily consistent correlation - the more they were part of the "men are bad and going to rape you" idea, the more likely they were to get raped. All 4 of them. I knew many women who didn't share this over-parania - I don't think a single one of them g…
/r/TheRedPill03/05/14 04:20 AM
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Except "rape culture" doesn't even match their reality. "rape culture" is a culture where rape is normalized and expected. We have a car culture - if you're an adult, you're generally expected to drive as being part of a normal adult (with a few exceptions). If you rape, it's generally seen as bad and that you should be sent to jailed - or beaten to death. "rape culture" (in the general population of the US) is a myth. Saying it's "their perspective" is like saying that alien abductions are real…
/r/TheRedPill03/05/14 04:15 AM
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I will never date a woman that slaps. When my mom and dad were younger, he tells me this story that they were at a hardware store. Something happened (I don't remember what), she flew off the handle and slapped him. He turned to face her, grabbed her by her shoulders, and shoved her backwards - she landed halfway down the isle. She looked embarrassed, and never tried to physically hit him again. On the one hand, I have respect for my dad for doing that, and from his character I will never, ever …
/r/TheRedPill03/05/14 04:11 AM
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They're partly right, rape cases has been increasing No, that part if the biggest lie (if we're talking about the US) - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/18/AR2006061800610.html The number of rapes per capita in the United States has plunged by more than 85 percent since the 1970s, and reported rape fell last year even while other violent offenses increased, according to federal crime data. This seemingly stunning reduction in sexual violence has been so consistent ove…
/r/TheRedPill03/05/14 04:00 AM
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So guys, be calm and cool-headed most of the time, but if something that you don't like happens, don't be afraid to show it. Never, ever, ever stop being angry. It's an interesting post, but I think you're contradicting yourself a bit here. There's a difference between "never totally let go of an ability to be angry" vs "never stop being angry".
/r/TheRedPill03/05/14 03:56 AM
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I would be curious if there was some way to study exactly the success rate of phsychopathic men is, particularly focussed on how much physchopathy the women they sleep with have. Question is - are physchopaths successful mostly with other phsychopaths, or are at what rate are they also successful with non-physchopaths? I don't know what the answer is exactly, but the dataset is a little skewed - psychopaths by definition are fairly bad at relationships, by percentage they are much, much more ava…
/r/TheRedPill03/05/14 03:54 AM
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Huh. I mean, you should do what works. There's a reason why hamstering is so prevalent with women...you gotta figure it must help with the emotional/logical interface in the brain somehow.
/r/TheRedPill01/05/14 11:18 PM
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Well I'm not arguing it's "impossible" to find an attractive virgin girl in their 20's who would make a good ltr, but I am completely disagreeing that it's the dreamland that the other poster made it sound like is.
/r/TheRedPill01/05/14 11:13 PM
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Exactly. First, "rape culture" is culture where rape is normalized and seen as a normal, every day activity. You know what? - we don't live in any sort of rape culture. We don't see it as a normalized, everyday activity. Second, did you see that even RAINN (a group that promotes crap like the 1 in 6 women will be victims of sexual assault) came out and said that "rape culture" doesn't help prevent rape? http://rainn.org/images/03-2014/WH-Task-Force-RAINN-Recommendations.pdf Research supports the…
/r/TheRedPill01/05/14 11:03 PM
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The way I look at it is that we're the left foot and they're the right foot; we're both trying to get to the same place. Sure. Both groups have their extreme members that are kind of a pain, though. (Like every single social group ever does...)
/r/TheRedPill01/05/14 10:54 PM
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MRA's (or whoever) would be useful just in accomplishing the job of pointing out how absurd many of the feminists claims nowadays are. Red Pill version of Men's Rights - "Get the !@#@! of of my way so I can do what I want to / need to myself".
/r/TheRedPill01/05/14 09:37 PM
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What the hell can a white house council do for me that I can't do for myself? Counter the feminists one-sided influence on government laws. You can't do something for yourself if the government is passing laws discriminating against you for being a man. A while back they (not successfully) tried to pass a law making it illegal to pay all the women in the company less than all the men. What are you, as an individual, going to do about that if the company you work has to pay women who are worse at…
/r/TheRedPill01/05/14 09:32 PM
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But there's still a lot to be said for doing something that keeps them from being involved in promoting one sides social issue and ignoring the other. What's worse than the government getting involved in promoting men's "issues"? It's the government being involved in promoting women's "issues", but ignoring mens. A "men's issues" council who did nothing but neutralize the women and girls would be useful.
/r/TheRedPill01/05/14 09:25 PM
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But aside from that slight exception, emotion has no place in a woman's presence. As many, many other posters have said - this gets at a truth, but is not true itself. These are the things I know of that go wrong - 1. You're dating a narcissist: http://www.businessinsider.com/signs-youre-a-narcissist-2014-4?utm_content=bufferbbc82&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer The specific one I'm referring to - "You hate having to feel emotions." The site "The Rawness" has a lot …
/r/TheRedPill01/05/14 09:09 PM
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Yeah, this is a lot closer to my real life experience than "have no emotions". And I mean both my own, and the players I see around me. I know more than 1 player who I've accidentally walked in on fooling around with a girl, who's also very emotionally expressive. It's definitely working for them.
/r/TheRedPill01/05/14 08:29 PM
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The problem is, they do worse than just muddying the waters. I knew 4 women who were raped. I'm not saying it was just or right, but every one of them was constantly worried before it happened that at some point they were going to get raped. I knew numerous women who weren't that worried about it - like the same level that you're worried about a car accident, you take precautions but you don't obsess over it. How is it that the women who spent the most time "learning' about protecting themselves…
/r/TheRedPill30/04/14 10:49 PM
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This woman who complains is the perfect example of feminist thinking. Every character on the show - the men moreso than the women - get fucked over again. And again. And again. And again. Ned Stark's entire guard is murdered, then Ned Stark has his head cut off. Rob Stark and his entire family are brutually betrayed and murdered later. The Game of Thrones universe is a place where horrible, dark triad characters are constantly in charge, and everyone gets completely fucked over. There's at least…
/r/TheRedPill30/04/14 10:24 PM
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This forum says it's dedicated to sexual strategy, so if you're straight and a guy that pretty much means it's centered around women. The Matrix didn't pull back the curtain and say that there is no reality, it just said that it's different than you had been told. Likewise this forum while not exclusive about women-related topics does tend to center around women. It just doesn't center around what women think they want but don't, or what feminist claim that women want. In other words how women r…
/r/TheRedPill30/04/14 09:17 PM
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I seriously don't understand how anyone can say that with a straight face and pretend they're not hamstering.
/r/TheRedPill29/04/14 05:09 PM
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Lol, I know right? Huge Hamster says - I'm not working out to look good for the opposite gender, it just so happens that how I want to look matches up with what they find sexy! (cough, right)
/r/TheRedPill29/04/14 05:08 PM
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Yeah, the only thing I find more amusing than women claiming that women are angels and never do this stuff, is when guys go all bitter and claim that only women do this. This stuff is done everywhere. At a certain point, the problem is that you keep naively buying into it, get terrible results, then keep complaining that you don't understand why it's not working. My dad does this and it drives me nuts - yeah, it sucks that the sales person keeps lying to you. But at a certain point, part of it b…
/r/TheRedPill29/04/14 05:02 PM
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It's odd, but the question is - why would it be your responsibility to enforce this particular age restriction? You know what younger girls who don't want to date guys who are older than them do? - they don't date them. It's the woman who has the gatekeeping role, not the guy. When you start doing it now you're doing both your job and her job for her.
/r/TheRedPill29/04/14 04:59 PM
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Yeah, there's a lot to be said about getting over one's overidealization of women where women claimed women "don't do" all the things that many women do - but you're going to far the other way, making a judgement call on all women based on women from snapchat. You're going to dive bars and complaining that there's lot of alcoholics out there.
/r/TheRedPill29/04/14 04:05 PM
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Random question... why do girls like skinny muscular guys more than beefy jacked guys with a little more bodyfat? Skinny muscular guys have an association with guys who just didn't eat a lot but did anything physical at all so they looked good. Skinny muscular == in good shape without trying to hard at it. In the last decade visible muscles have seen a lot more social acceptance - used to be a sign that someone was working extra to look like that, but in the last 10 years practically everyone on…
/r/TheRedPill29/04/14 06:38 AM
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"White House wants victims to be able to report sexual assault anonymously. Accused persons would not have the right to cross-examine their accuser." Am I the only person who read the article? I don't see anything in the article that resembles the title. It sounded like they wanted to do a survey and those survey results would remain confidential. While I am dubious that what's being done will do anything other than continue rape-hysteria b.s. (it's b.s. because it always seems to just try to pa…
/r/TheRedPill29/04/14 06:13 AM
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Yeah, wanted to say thanks to. TRP completely changed my life. Honestly? It changed my job stuff first, I no longer feel like I'm stuck in a dead end job, and a lot of that came from reading TRP and just standing up for myself and getting ticked off at my boss when it was deserved. Seriously. And I still have that job, and am far more respected than I was before. Would have been washed away with the "but feelings!" line of thinking I used to use, discovering TRP has been a godsend in realizing t…
/r/TheRedPill29/04/14 05:47 AM
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Virgin at 16 -- no. You're just the first of many dicks, sorry. Virgin at 22 due to being raised in a highly religious family, talks a lot about Jesus, wants a high value man, has two parents together, said parents would disown her over infidelity full stop, sure. Couldn't possibly disagree more. You don't know how things will go for the 16 year old virgin, but the majority of people I know who got married and stayed a couple hadn't slept with more than 1-2 people before that. I slept with a 22 …
/r/TheRedPill27/04/14 07:35 PM
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I think this theme misses the real reason for expectations from a girl - long term relationships. Women, moreso than men, take their moral social cues from their immediate social group. Put a woman with a group of super slutty women for a year, 4/5 times she'll turn into a super slutty girl. Put a woman with a group of genuinely chaste women for a year, 4/5 times she'll reduce or eliminate her sluttiness. Guys are influenced by their immediate social group to, but not nearly as much, and not nea…
/r/TheRedPill24/04/14 10:14 PM
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I think this goes back and forth - every successful player I know builds comfort. But it's a back and forth - tension / comfort / tension / comfort / tension / comfort. My problem - and the reason I'm not nearly as successful - is that I find to much "nervous tension" a huge turnoff. I'm not turned on by her radiating the kind of feelings I'd expect her to radiate if there was a guy wearing a mask and carrying a knife inside her home. It's true that's what a lot of them radiate though - it's jus…
/r/TheRedPill24/04/14 09:55 PM
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Do you know what feminism is "really" about? Do you know what really motivated it to take hold? It wasn't even the self-centered woman that drive feminism today. It was about money. It's about convincing women that they're being "oppressed" by getting to have social acceptability to stay at home and raise children. It's about society telling woman they're going to be happier if they get careers - when really their happiness has declined. It's about convincing women that jobs are magical and glor…
/r/TheRedPill24/04/14 09:16 PM
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This isn't exactly RP, but the solipsism here is something you almost never see in men. No male business leader fires someone callously and then writes a page of flowery prose trying to validate themselves. Are you kidding me? Are you new to reality? CEO's have been doing this kind of stuff for...forever. They never write a page of flowery prose? The do that all the time. I really don't know how to describe how stupid I find this - CEO's have been screwing over employees for - forever, and writi…
/r/TheRedPill24/04/14 08:59 PM
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If you don't want to understand the basic english I used to explain it so you can hamster away your hilarious idea that women care more about looks than men, that's your call.
/r/TheRedPill23/04/14 08:17 AM
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For some, rather than trying to improve themselves with unforeseeable rewards, it really does make more sense to hope that the complete and total collapse of society and the establishment comes sooner rather than later - that way when there are no laws to enforce rape, the good and decent men who have been unfairly forced into sexual frustration can bring true justice to the female population. Lol, I knew a lot of these guys in high school. It was fairly amusing, though, because they're were alw…
/r/TheRedPill23/04/14 08:03 AM
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I don't 100% follow what you're saying. What you wrote is similar to what I wrote - Failure to be cautious in social situations when drinking (especially when you are young and new to drinking) is brazenly idiotic. Feminists defined it as "offensive" to tell this to women. They said it was great and positive to talk about "rape culture", but "offensive" to talk about the #1 contributing factor to rape happening.) People who care about you not being killed by drunk drivers tell you to not get int…
/r/TheRedPill22/04/14 12:30 AM
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(rolls eyes) I'm not saying her lawyer is trying to get her to sleep with him, I'm saying it's the same principle as negging where you're trying to say something negative about your client, but you need a strong front of plausible deniability in order to do it.
/r/TheRedPill22/04/14 12:21 AM
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Thanks. Wish the commenter I responded to hadn't deleted his comment, it was good. Maybe I should start just quoting the whole thing...hmm...
/r/TheRedPill22/04/14 12:18 AM
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Lol, it may or may not be the "only" crazy they know, but it's certainly the inspiration for how they view how everyone else acts...
/r/TheRedPill22/04/14 12:18 AM
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cool
/r/TheRedPill22/04/14 12:12 AM
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Danny Davito - attractive facial structure? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Danny_DeVito_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg
/r/TheRedPill21/04/14 05:29 PM
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Absurd. I've said it before, and I'll say it again - just look at celebrities. There's a ton of ugly ass male celebrities that nail all kinds of women. Now you're going to go "well, they're celebrities - that's different!". Well it is different, but let me ask you - is there any amount of fame that's going to make Catherine Bates someone guys want to sleep with? No. Is there a certain amount of fame that makes girls want to sleep with Danny Davitto, even though he's short, fat, and balding? Yes.…
/r/TheRedPill21/04/14 05:12 PM
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I've found that women would always, always rather be entertained and offended, than be bored.
/r/TheRedPill21/04/14 04:51 PM
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"If you want to approach a girl in a class, how would you recommend doing so?" Make friendly smalltalk with them in class. Be friendly to their friends (though not necessarily overly so). Invite them to hang out with your friends. The key here is that you need friends who will be cool. Doing something interesting enough that she wants to go, and a general demeanour towards her that makes her feel like your friends are going to think she's cool if she's hooking up with you, and not going to be sp…
/r/TheRedPill20/04/14 06:17 AM
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Like all the other comments, it didn't "prove" that gender roles are "bullshit", all it demonstrated was that fashions change over time and some things currently considered feminine used to be masculine. Well...that's true. It just doesn't "prove that gender roles are bullshit". It's like saying that people used to walk everywhere, and now they drive, and this "proves" that cars are bullshit...
/r/TheRedPill20/04/14 05:55 AM
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I was in a 4 year LTR and near the end of the 3rd year, started suffering from a severe depression...Some emotions are fine, in small quantities. I made the mistake of showing too much, and it made me less of a man in her eyes. This reminds me of that annoying thing women used to do in describing "feelings" as "feelings that are sad and angsty". Your problem isn't that you showed to much "emotion" - it's that you showed to much depression/helplessness/hopelessness. Yeah, depression sucks. But yo…
/r/TheRedPill20/04/14 05:32 AM
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In my opinion, it's the hardest TRP truth to swallow. The idea that a man can't even relate his inner self to his girlfriend/wife without losing a degree of attractiveness is pretty tough, tougher than any of the other ideas I've been presented with here. Frankly, I do not know that it's actually true. One of the issues with Game is while it's a better source advice than "listen to what women say they want", it still has a bad data set - it's made up of "what works with the women who are availab…
/r/TheRedPill20/04/14 05:17 AM
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I would agree with you in any other situation, but did you see her pic?
/r/TheRedPill20/04/14 04:14 AM
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and always does the right thing What was fun about this show was how Charlie was always there to point out how when it came to his exwife, Allen had bluepill let the "right thing" become redefined as "anything Judith had strong feelings about" regardless of how much it was screwing Allen over. That's what made it an interesting show - blue pill guy contrasting with red pill guy. That's also (one of the several reasons) why the version without charlie harper is so incredibly 100% awful. There's n…
/r/TheRedPill20/04/14 04:03 AM
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It's amusing how well the zealots often describe their own side when trying to attack the other side - "I'm serious. What's the worst thing that could happen if women were able to write criticisms of the objectification and marginalization of female characters in comic books and video games, all without being silenced and derailed with a bunch of abuse from Dudes With Serious Issues?" Rewritten: I'm serious. What's the worst thing that could happen if men were able to write criticisms of the att…
/r/TheRedPill19/04/14 05:07 AM
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Fuck that lawyer. I dunno, I could see myself saying that as the lawyer. Secretly I'd be thinking "Have you guys caught on that yes, some women do lie about this stuff all the time?". It's like negging...you can't directly say "my client is a psychopath"...
/r/TheRedPill19/04/14 03:40 AM
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Yes it happens in the animal kingdom but Lions don't have to go to work on Monday with a black eye and chipped tooth. Actually, it's far worse than that in the animal kingdom. As a human in the US, if you break your jaw or something, you go to the hospital. It's expensive, but they can fix you. If you're a lion in the wild, and you break your jaw, you die of starvation. Most displays of aggression and dominance in the animal world get resolved without seriously physical fighting. A lot of animal…
/r/TheRedPill17/04/14 10:36 PM
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A key point: he made fun of the guy in a way that allowed the guy to save face. Yes - exactly. You cannot always be the #1 toughest, most socially skilled, best guy in the room - in practical reality. If you're not the toughest, you can acknowledge the other persons superiority in one area, but basically refuse to enter their frame where physical conflict is how it's resolved. You acknowledge that if you stepped outside, they could kick your ass. But don't step outside. You then force them to lo…
/r/TheRedPill17/04/14 08:24 PM
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Yeah, men and women define "friends" differently. A "friend" for a woman is typical what a man would think of as a casual acquintance, or some guy he hangs out with sometimes. Women learn from experience that their girlfriends are likely to drop them when they get a serious boyfriend, or find themselves in a new social situation. As others have said, the reason why women use "bff - best friends forever" is exactly because they're never best friends forever. Women's "bff" is their "best friend ri…
/r/TheRedPill16/04/14 07:59 PM
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Um...does that actually tell them when you read the message? On my android phone, the similar settings just confirms that they got the message. So it says that it got delivered to my phone, but doesn't say anything about when I actually opened it up and read it.
/r/TheRedPill16/04/14 07:45 PM
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This is what's sick about modern feminism - it's just another political group out for their own selfish power, using whatever they can to pretend to care about it to gain it. Racial privilege is actually a thing, black people in american on the whole do tend to have it harder than white people - from being more likely to be born poor to being associated with thugs and gangbangers because of their skin color. So what does feminists do with "privilege"? They whine that they - as middle class white…
/r/TheRedPill16/04/14 07:43 PM
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Lol, I'm going to end the back and forth here, where after 6 posts fanyboying SS, getting emotional in defending anything Ripptoe wrote, you know claim that you're - neither a defender of SS or a Rippetoe fanboy. I could not write a better example of the SS fanboy hamster. "all my questions have been purely factually directed" is the icing on the hamster cake. Feel free to go on about it more though. Maybe you can add in more about how people who don't worship Rippetoe or SS should be removed fr…
/r/TheRedPill16/04/14 05:59 AM
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Thanks for responding, but your example is completely unrelated to what I'm saying. Reading dating advice from feminism is like you're also a lawyer, but on the other side of the case from your neighbor, and you're asking him for advice on what you should do. Reading feminism is like living in the time of Galileo, and looking to the Catholic church for scientific explanations of how the universe outside our planet works. It's like being a jew and learning about jewish history from an anti-semite…
/r/TheRedPill15/04/14 10:53 PM
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I'm socially awkward, suffer from depression, am overweight AND I'm a virgin Am I misreading this in thinking that he is actually saying he is those things? I mean - I would have thought TRP (and Game) was full of crap, to, before I saw a friend of mine do it and it worked - not only did it work, but he was doing things that I previously thought was "offensive" to girls, and they were saying good things about him, talking about him like he was a celebrity, etc etc. They didn't know that I knew w…
/r/TheRedPill15/04/14 06:04 PM
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It's pretty common to need to also overhead press, to balance out the muscles that are used in the bench press. I am not an expert, so I do not know the details, but practically every program either does the overhead press, or does other exercises that use the same muscles.
/r/TheRedPill15/04/14 05:57 PM
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Same here, wasn't on a reddit, but elsewhere on a feminist-oriented site, someone was habitually bashing TRP and I was like "if these jackasses hate it so much, I gotta check it out".
/r/TheRedPill15/04/14 05:41 PM
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While that's true, I read his comment as saying that he is a virgin, so it would be the other way...
/r/TheRedPill15/04/14 04:58 PM
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I dunno man, I've known several of them - again and again and again. The last one (of course after a lifetime of talking about how women didn't care about that stuff), married a rich doctor who was older than her (though he wasn't particularly tall and wasn't good looking). He's fairly beta. She even told him upfront that she didn't like sex that much, was that a problem. Personally, these girls were the worst source of advice for me - I didn't realize the reason they were so comfortable and ope…
/r/TheRedPill14/04/14 09:44 PM
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You almost gotta stop thinking about "bringing" a condom, and just always have a few with you somehow. I keep some in my car, some in my jacket and 2 in my wallet. You shouldn't even be making a decision to bring or not bring a condom. Just always have some with you. Then it becomes irrelevant to your state of mind.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/14 04:59 PM
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Yeah, that was a good move. I also usually try to exchange numbers with the girl as soon as possible (finding a context where it seems natural to do so) for things like this. Several times now I've had the girl be interested, but not know if ticking off her friends was worth it with me (I can't just say I'm interested in her upfront, and she can't be sure - why tick off her friends if it turns out I'm not interested?). If she's left the odds she'll respond positively go down, but if she does res…
/r/TheRedPill14/04/14 04:55 PM
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It doesn't even matter in this case - they didn't have sex. Since she came herself, the odds of her crying "rape" are extremely low, since they didn't have sex it's far lower than that still.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/14 04:48 PM
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Some people are just seriously going on about nothing here. They didn't even have sex - almost no one except the seriously mentally insane are going to be trying to cry "rape" about a situation where they didn't even have sex. Holy paranoia circlejerk, batman.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/14 04:47 PM
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And also, condoms don't protect you that much from herpes either. Herpes is from by skin-to-skin contact in the genital area, and condoms don't cover that.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/14 04:42 PM
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Hang on a second. Since when have all men just become angels? There are plenty of legitimate sexual harassment and sexism cases that involve both men and women as instigators. Maybe if you're being called into HR that often for these things you ARE doing something wrong. I didn't see anyone say this wasn't true, so I fail to see how this is relevant. Just like you avoid the kind of people who would call the cops and lie to get back to you, that doesn't mean that there aren't also people who legi…
/r/TheRedPill14/04/14 04:08 PM
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The women seem to fall into two groups of relative attractiveness, 6s and 7s, and 1s and 2s. Actually, I think you're missing an important group. Feminists who are 8/9/10's. I've known a couple of these, and they act like women, they like things that women like, but here's why they are a problem - they don't like sex. Seriously - they just don't like sex. They can like guys, they can like relationships, and they enjoy sexual attention from a guy of high enough value. But every single time so far…
/r/TheRedPill14/04/14 04:04 PM
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I will tell you, honestly TRP clearly and totally helped me more in the rest of my real life than it did in romantic relationships with women. One "shouldn't" have to tell their own family to fuck off, but sometimes you do. But yeah - this is the perfect example of red pilling in your own life. It's been kind of crazy to me how much more effective maintaining my frame has been in going back and forth with my family - just like your example above. In fact, oddly, I've found that I get more respec…
/r/TheRedPill14/04/14 03:35 PM
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Don’t hate women. Don’t call them irrational. Don’t call them fat or ugly. Hold yourself to a higher fucking standard than that, man. Don't call them most of that, but don't let that stop you from realizing that they're being irrational or crazy about something either. Having tits is not a free pass to anything. Don't treat them worse than men, but don't pedestalize them either by acting like you can be angry at other men but somehow can't acknowledge shitty things specific women are doing. And …
/r/TheRedPill14/04/14 07:09 AM
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Ok, I want to warn you about something - the reason Starting Strength is recommended so often is not that it's such a great program. It's because it's an ok program, who's book is written in such a way that it attracts a collective of rabid fanboys. And I mean rabid - if you get injured doing the program, you can expect a lot of "the program is perfect you must have fucked it up attitude". I did Starting Strength, and I hit all of the drawbacks of the program: Football - It's a copy of Bill Star…
/r/TheRedPill14/04/14 06:12 AM
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However, I don't see how you could call it time consuming. It's 45 minutes (to an hour), 3 times a week. Yeah, I went from Starting Strength to All Pro's (the one listed above), and it definitely did not take any longer to do All Pro's. If you're taking longer, you're doing something wrong. All Pro's is also much better than Starting Strength (the default program at least) in working your body for aesthetics. When people say they got "strong" faster with Starting Strength, they mean their legs, …
/r/TheRedPill14/04/14 05:14 AM
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And Rippetoe copied his from Bill Star doing the same thing... The people who came up with the original workouts these workouts are based on have all died of old age...everyone creating a workout now is copying or duplicating someone else.
/r/TheRedPill14/04/14 04:53 AM
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When I feel I still have chance with a girl if I insist more on it I don't know what to do. I don't think you actually have to kill that feeling - insisting more on it is actually exactly what game suggests you do. What you have to change is: Change the way you "push". For example, if you're like a lot of guys (including myself), you kept feeling like you shouldn't make a physical move right now, wait until next time. I've had to retrain myself to do it now when I feel that way - make the move n…
/r/TheRedPill13/04/14 06:28 AM
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Lol, women are not like dogs - dogs are man's best friend. Dogs are excited to see you when you get home, dogs are...well I could go on, but the phrase is amusing.
/r/TheRedPill12/04/14 07:31 PM
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Further, TRP and TBP are neither conservative nor liberal. Trying to ally them as such is factually incorrect and detrimental to TRP. Traditional gender roles are responsible for the Disney fantasy, oneits, no plate spinning, you have to get married, missionary sex only, etc... +1 You're morally obligated to stay married to a woman even if all "your" kids are from her cheating on you with someone else, all sexual thoughts outside of marriage are sinful, birth control is immoral...
/r/TheRedPill12/04/14 07:27 PM
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Seriously. This is just one of many things like that - how else do you describe a movement that insists that bdsm is safe and healthy in all and every situation, but has a shit fit about guys who are being genuinely nice to girls?
/r/TheRedPill12/04/14 07:24 PM
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Like I said, classic hamstering. Unable to deal with the reality that the book is poorly organized and written, you have to resort to shaming tactics, making stuff up, strawmanning, etc. Oh no, you claimed no one else has this problem when in reality half the rest of the internet also thinks Starting Strength is crappy! It's 298 pages until the author gets to talking about doing warmups. If he was a decent writer, he could figure out the simple task of putting them in the program, rather than wh…
/r/TheRedPill10/04/14 07:51 AM
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What you're experiencing is why women have trouble staying friends with other women. This is exactly how they treat each other behind the scenes - name calling, being a jerk if another girl is to much more successful than she is, etc etc. What girls do is passive aggressively punish the other girl for saying stuff like that behind the scenes. Eventually the other girl gets the idea that she shouldn't be giving her shit like that. But like I said, this is a nasty road to go down, because it's one…
/r/TheRedPill09/04/14 09:53 PM
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In actuality there is no coordinated mechanism for widespread idea suppression LOLz, yah - right. We're surrounded by social mechanisms for idea suppression. That does not mean they're inherently bad - a tv show that shows incest like Game of Thrones only does it in a light of "and the result is going to be bad, bad, bad". I really liked a girl, and she clearly liked me back (and was obviously bored to tears by her husband), who is married. Was the idea that I would simply kill her husband, make…
/r/TheRedPill09/04/14 09:46 PM
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...I'm honestly just not sure how that relates to my post.
/r/TheRedPill06/04/14 08:29 AM
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Yeah, me neither. It's a mystery to me - it's been blatantly apparent to me my whole life that women didn't care nearly as much about looks as men, and while they care about money more than men being rich but being a doormat doesn't get you laid either. Like I said, if you're all of the above things you have a big problem, but this "you're not good looking and rich so you have no chance with women" idea is just bizarre to me. Frankly, things would make more sense if that was true.
/r/TheRedPill06/04/14 08:27 AM
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Is there any way to subvert this? Sometimes, especially if you are talking to them on the phone or somewhere that's not the party, you can sidetalk about sex/making out/etc. If you can demonstrate value, and also let the girl know that you're the kind of guy who's going to be welcoming of her making the move, you can get the girl to make the move. This has a couple of problems, though - These girls will almost always have a lower SMV than you. Girls only get excited enough upfront to make the mo…
/r/TheRedPill06/04/14 07:56 AM
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Yeah, here here.
/r/TheRedPill06/04/14 07:24 AM
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Giant Hamster says - It's on page 350 of a book printed on 8.5x11 size paper! How could anyone possibly miss that! (fyi it's page 298, not 350)
/r/TheRedPill06/04/14 06:36 AM
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I'm to lazy to find the stat on wikipedia right now, but men are 3 times more likely to be killed another man than women are.
/r/TheRedPill06/04/14 03:45 AM
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From here - http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/18/AR2006061800610.html The number of rapes per capita in the United States has plunged by more than 85 percent since the 1970s, and reported rape fell last year even while other violent offenses increased, according to federal crime data. * This seemingly stunning reduction in sexual violence has been so consistent over the past two decades that some experts say they have started to believe it is accurate, even if they can…
/r/TheRedPill06/04/14 03:39 AM
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But don't you think it's odd that whenever the subject of looks comes up everyone always has this 'friend' whose fat and gets tons of chicks? Lol, that's huge projection. Don't you think it's odd that every time the subject of male attractiveness comes up, there's always someone whining it's because the guy isn't good looking enough, despite numerous real life examples otherwise? Again and again it seems like it's a coping mechanism - they don't have the social skills or ability to create social…
/r/TheRedPill06/04/14 03:28 AM
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Yeah, it lowers your SMV via social proof. If you meet new people and they've already "heard" about you being a creep, and now you have to be extra beta to "prove" you're not a creep - which may makes them think you're not a creep, but just not attractive. Plus a lot of times it's difficult to disprove, or to track back to who's saying it. One of the principles of Game is that women want to date who all their friends want to date. Getting a reputation for being "creepy" means that rather than be…
/r/TheRedPill06/04/14 02:57 AM
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Lol, are you the same poster who posted this on another feminist orient site? It was awesomely hilarious. - Women seem more like landmines than adversaries, from this post. Calm down. You can't defuse a mine if you are jittery. Don't get too close to the mine; it's proximity-triggered and fast motions make you go boom and respawn. if you can't read the proper distance and speed to approach one, learn. If you plan on defusing bombs, don't blame the bomb if it blows up on you. Chances are it was s…
/r/TheRedPill06/04/14 02:35 AM
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Every single "X things guys do that are hot"-pieces fall under it. "I love it when guys take their shirt off." Well to be fair, the biggest difference is that they get upset when you point out that they aren't really describing the situation. Lots of guys also believe that women should be able to go topless and support attempts to legalize it, not realizing that usually women promoting this are...not the women they want to see topless...
/r/TheRedPill06/04/14 02:34 AM
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I know what you're saying, and I agree with you in theory. The problem with MRA is that is so often attracts the super whiny absurd guy who no one else will listen to. Like MRA's are more about more equal divorce laws, rape laws, child custody and support, etc etc. All of those are great things. But a lot of times what I see is like what I saw someone posting a while ago here - a big long post trying to assert that it was horrible that a judge ruled that a man didn't have the legal right to be i…
/r/TheRedPill06/04/14 02:32 AM
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While I don't like the color scheme, it's the lack of usability in exchange for "looks pretty" that pisses me off. I've accidentally clicked that damn search button on an email when all I wanted to do was look at the email more times than I can count - because someone thought it would be pretty to only have it appear when you mouse over the line. Used to be able to sort based on title - very handy for those thread update emails (delete 20 of the same ones at once). Can't do that any more. (To be…
/r/MensRights06/04/14 02:22 AM
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This is ridiculous. If you could get pregnant, you would want job security too. What you're espousing right now is male elitism, similar to feminism espousing female elitism. Yeah, the one thing I don't like about this forum is angry-Omega posts. Waaaa women have children and that's inconvenient for your employer, wah. Society basically has 2 goals - It's members need to earn money (well, they need to be able to have shelter, buy food, get the education they need to earn more money, etc etc, but…
/r/MensRights06/04/14 02:15 AM
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While the point about getting chronically negative, jealous, and lame people out of your life, I feel like this poster is overreacting in the opposite direction. I've done this myself - and gotten rid of friends that I shouldn't have. I agree on the first one - friends who are chronically a problem are - a problem. Friends shouldn't be trying to make you look bad (particularly when there's no gain for themselves) to begin with, and friends don't keep doing it when you ask them to stop. It's true…
/r/TheRedPill04/04/14 10:35 PM
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Honestly, I was surprised that a lot of the responses from the feminism forum were actually decent responses. Shocked, I would say. They seemed to follow the same pattern - Saying stupid obligatory "I don't like The Red Pill" Say obligatory "bla bla bla misogny" Give 75% of the same advice you'd get from The Red Pill Weird, lol...
/r/TheRedPill04/04/14 08:16 PM
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I think this is more accurately described as Lead vs Follow power. The Lead wants direct power to do things themselves. The Follow wants the power to influence the Lead to do what the Follow wants. Both sides pursue and ability to get "power", but the kind of power they're trying to get is different. The inherent and contradictory position the follow is in, though, is that she's torn between getting more power over the lead vs following a more powerful lead. Having complete power over a loser le…
/r/TheRedPill04/04/14 08:11 PM
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Classic Example of Feminist and Female-Viewpoint Thinking Rule #1 - things "men" do are described as "men", things women do are described as "society", "people", "someone", etc etc etc. Don't acknowledge that women do it, if possible do everything you can to blame it on the man. Case in point - Another phenomenon is who holds the power in the relationship. This stems directly from the “whoever cares less wins” dynamic, as well. We too often forget that while we struggle for the power, we disresp…
/r/TheRedPill04/04/14 07:54 PM
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The article mentions "The Notebook". What funny about that movie - and everything from it's author Nicholas Sparks - is that it's a women's perspective guide to bad-boy-with-a-heart-of-gold Game. I'm serious. Here's the clip from where he says he wrote her 365 times - at 1:30 the clip says that she had no idea he did that (she had never received his letters and had no idea he had written them) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9JTfU7YtGQ To her this whole time, he was the aloof asshole. Her lat…
/r/TheRedPill04/04/14 07:42 PM
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So, by not getting laid at all I was as much "not as my father" as you could possibly be.... Lol, I know, I can't believe I didn't realize this kind of stuff when I was younger. "Don't be like your father/those asshole guys who just use women for sex/her ex-boyfriends who were all jerks" - all those sayings are saying "those guys were doing things that made the woman want to sleep with him".
/r/TheRedPill04/04/14 07:22 PM
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I've been here a lot longer than she knows. That anger has been my fuel for so long, I don't know any other motivation anymore. Anger is a good intermediate step, and it fuels getting over the bullshit, but eventually one needs to rebalance to be motivated primarly by things that are not anger. One of my friends who introduced me to game gave me excellent advice, and one of those was "bitter is the most unnattractive unnattractive emotion". Again and again I've seen this be true. If your only mo…
/r/TheRedPill04/04/14 07:17 PM
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This bitch used to made his little brother an emotional sponge for her and now that he understood she's sad that he don't want to understand anymore. To be fair to the girl, I strongly suspect she just has no idea what's she's doing. She's like a customer who wants to the store to sell everything to them "at cost" - they're nieve and have no idea how businesses work. But a lot of the time they're doing it out of naivety, not out of malice, and not realizing how damaging their opinions would be i…
/r/TheRedPill04/04/14 07:10 PM
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Well he sure as fuck isn't going to find a girlfriend with his sister's advice. It's easy for women to say that there is more to life than sex. They've been getting offers for dick since middle school. Maybe earlier. So as much as they may love some dick, it's easy to say that's not all there is. It's far more than it just being "easy" for them. Women receive a few sets of advice. The first is about being more attractive, but it's very female specific - how to dress hot as a girl (but not so hot…
/r/TheRedPill04/04/14 07:04 PM
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More like he sat and talked to himself until he rationalized his own weakness and her failure as a wife. To be fair to this guy, frankly, I'm not sure I would say he was doing anything stupid. His wife cheated on him. Everyone in his community might be saying he's obligated to stay with her. This sounds to me more like "I got mad, I let her know that I was seriously considering divorcing her and dropping her like a bad habit because she did this. I used 'god' as my excuse for accepting her back,…
/r/TheRedPill04/04/14 05:31 PM
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Christians are such a joke these days with their fair-weather buffet table style approach to following their own rules. I generally try to keep politics out of this forum, but I roll my eyes whenever we get the conservative fanboys in here claiming that "liberals" are blue pill and "conservatives" are red pill or some such crap. Both political sides have a ton of blue pill thinking in them. This is just one of many examples of deeply engrained religious conservative blue pill thinking. (To be ab…
/r/TheRedPill04/04/14 05:22 PM
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Divorce is not permitted in the Catholic Church, period, EVEN IN CASES OF ADULTERY. I am actually reconsidering my Catholicism due to this, because I would not adhere to that if it happened to me. Right, which is why you can see how blue pill large parts of the church are. It allows the alpha men to sleep with other women, but provides a moral framework for cuckholdery - saying that she is now basically free to sleep with the alpha guys, get pregnant with their children, then the beta she's marr…
/r/TheRedPill04/04/14 05:16 PM
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If you're short, ugly, fat, socially inept, broke, or whichever combination of the aforementioned, and you realize the truth of red pill philosophy you are no more alpha than you were before you woke up to the truth. I'm tired of hearing this whining about this stuff, this isn't the truth either. If you're all of these things, yeah, you have a serious problem. But I watched a medium-height (but shorter than her), ugly, somewhat fat guy in his 40's pick up this girl in her 20's that was only ther…
/r/TheRedPill04/04/14 04:22 PM
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Lol, like I said - biggest hamster I've ever seen on the male side comes from starting strength fanboys. Maybe next you'll continue with this - women cheats? Mans fault. Numerous people injure themselves reading your book? Why take responsibility for doing a poor writing job - when you can blame them instead! Mark Rippetoe probably had a couple of drinks before writing the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd editions of the book - it's not his fault! It was just to haaaaard for him to do something completely simp…
/r/TheRedPill02/04/14 11:44 PM
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Unless she has brain damage, a woman you don't know will never overtly say, "Let's have sexual intercourse later on this evening." The important part of this statement that I always used to overlook is "a woman you don't know". If you've had a girlfriend, and she would just say it (which I've occasionally had, and they're tons of fun), sometimes you start feeling like it's the same with a girl you don't know. You get into this rhythm, or you've just imagined this, and you think that's how it's g…
/r/TheRedPill02/04/14 05:50 PM
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From the OP: "yea dude! this chick wanted to hook up with you but you were being such a baby, etc" again my brother brings this incident up being all dramatic by putting me in the spot once again and telling me "you blew it for the second time with that chick at the party! this chick was dying to fuck and you let her go!" needmorefat's response was excellent - You weren't. You were supposed to "ask", and get either accepted or rejected. The smile, dancing, and phone number are all hints that the…
/r/TheRedPill02/04/14 05:37 PM
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Outrage is a completely valid response for certain things, and some of the time. If you've spent your whole life believing in the women are unicorns fantasy, or the feminist (and female) hamstering of redescribing everything women do in long stories that always absolve them of responsibility, it makes sense to go through a period of outrage. Problem is that some outrage is totally different than constantly obsessing over it. It's like let's say you have forum dedicated to banking. It's understan…
/r/TheRedPill02/04/14 05:07 PM
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If you did the work sets without any warm-ups you deserved what was coming to you. Seriously, bla bla bla, hamster hamster hamster. The biggest male hamster I've ever seen in my life comes from the Starting Strength fanboys like yourself. It's around a 5th grade reading level where you know that if two pieces of information are important, especially to your readers safety, you put them in the same place. The fact that the author of Starting Strength doesn't have the reading and writing comprehen…
/r/TheRedPill01/04/14 10:35 PM
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Exactly.
/r/TheRedPill01/04/14 10:24 PM
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I didn't take the time to dig into it further, but it sounds like they just surveyed women. These kinds of "studies" should all be obligated to title themselves accurately, things like "76% of women say they prefer feminine men to settle down with, as expected to, regardless of their real preferences".
/r/TheRedPill01/04/14 10:16 PM
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This is all about power. Yes, this is exactly what it is about. Frankly, it's not such a problem that one gender group seeks power for itself - that's basically how the American system works. The problem is that people have actually bought into the idea that there's some sort of moral reason for them to do it. In reality, it's just about power.
/r/TheRedPill01/04/14 10:14 PM
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Yeah...sound earily familiar? Galileo and his theory that the Earth orbitted the sun, which contrasted the church view that everything in the universe orbitted the earth - Galileo was found "vehemently suspect of heresy", namely of having held the opinions that the Sun lies motionless at the centre of the universe, that the Earth is not at its centre and moves, and that one may hold and defend an opinion as probable after it has been declared contrary to Holy Scripture. He was required to "abjur…
/r/TheRedPill01/04/14 10:11 PM
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I think actual rape victims don't report. At least the majority. The girl I knew in college who was an actual rape victim didn't report. I encouraged her to, but she didn't. So I agree with you. This is exactly the problem, though. Who's most likely to go through the process of accussing someone publicly? Of writing blog entries, standing up in front of people and talking about it? Of course - it's someone who was simply embarrassed in retrospect about the experience, rather than someone who is …
/r/TheRedPill01/04/14 05:58 PM
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This sounds like the welfare state and liberals. I prefer to keep political hamstering off TRP, but since you brought it up - conservatives like to pretend their party is about things being more "free". But the moment auto dealerships are threatened by Telsa selling directly to consumers? Conservative-run states pass laws to keep them from doing it, using the government to essentially provide goverment welfare to auto dealerships. Different between liberals and conservatives is only that the lib…
/r/TheRedPill01/04/14 05:36 PM
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I don't think what you're describing is "refusing sex as a power move". It sounds like you're increasing sexual tension by prolonging the sexual tension. Demonstrating that you have control over your sexuality, in exchange for hotter sex later, is totally different than withholding sex to try to convince someone to, say, buy you something, or win an argument. I've never minded a girl refusing sex if it was to make it better later. It's when she's refusing sex because she wants you to buy somethi…
/r/TheRedPill01/04/14 05:17 PM
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The Starting Strength fanboy crowd definitely has the biggest hamster I've ever seen on the male side. Hyperbole, endless meaningless emotional appeals, etc. I clearly said that I did - Everyone said "Starting Strength", so I bought the book, even bought the video, and started lifting. The book is over 300 pages. I did not read every page and memorize it before I started working out, no, nobody does. The book mentions warmup sets, but in a different place than where it talks about the routine.
/r/TheRedPill01/04/14 04:48 PM
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Everyday when I get on the bus I always open the window next to my seat all the way for the sole purpose of trying to make somebody behind me upset. This is the dumbest thread I've seen on TRP this week. Wow, you've pissed everyone off - just to piss them off. "good job" man (sarcastic). Your experience with bitchy behavior is being the bitch.
/r/TheRedPill01/04/14 12:35 AM
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It depends on how arrogant and domineering, but I've repeatedly found that it's far more arrogant and domineering than my blue pill friends would put up with. It has to do with how women treat each other - sure, they're better at being subtle about it, but they're doing the same thing to each other all the time when men aren't around. You don't realize it because when a man says "what a slut" (which is rare for a man to do), they all jump up to defend the girl they may not even know. But when ot…
/r/TheRedPill01/04/14 12:08 AM
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Yeah, it's fantastic to see something that's interesting (and accurate) reading, lately I've been feeling like TRP has been turning to much into a "complain all the time" fest. Nice to see something of quality. :-)
/r/TheRedPill01/04/14 12:05 AM
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Galileo Galilei http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galileo_Galilei#Galileo_and_the_Church Galileo was found "vehemently suspect of heresy", namely of having held the opinions that the Sun lies motionless at the centre of the universe, that the Earth is not at its centre and moves, and that one may hold and defend an opinion as probable after it has been declared contrary to Holy Scripture. He was required to "abjure, curse and detest" those opinions. Groups who stand to lose power usually try to villi…
/r/TheRedPill31/03/14 11:59 PM
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On point #2, I didn't say alpha's can not work together. Let's take what you said about unifying out of choice, not force. Imagine you are surrounded by a group of people who's used to doing everything themselves individually. Any individual conflicts are handled on a personal level, and if you win (without any serious injuries or destruction of things you need), you're fine. Let's call this group Cats. Imagine in a different situation, you are surrounded by a group of people who having had to w…
/r/TheRedPill31/03/14 06:54 PM
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That's interesting. But it's not the world we live in today, and politicians are today are looking at the world as it is today.
/r/TheRedPill31/03/14 06:04 PM
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I always see these posts from the lifting crowd. Here's my story - I started lifting because I was reaching a point where I was starting to get fat (had never been fat before that, but got a desk job...). Everyone said "Starting Strength", so I bought the book, even bought the video, and started lifting. First thing that happened is that I got bigger legs and waist, but not bigger arms. I looked like an idiot. Searching around, I found out that this was actually a common complaint about Starting…
/r/TheRedPill31/03/14 04:57 PM
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I think the other poster is right. I've never had it help to bend over backwards for those people. Either your mentioning it and talking about it gets them interested, or there's no point in expending your own energy to try to help them. In fact, the more you try to push them into it, the more convinced they become that they're right despite all evidence to the contrary. It's like a failed-alpha mentality or something. They believe they're right, and they know what they're doing, and nothing is …
/r/TheRedPill31/03/14 04:26 PM
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I think some Red Pill posts take this to far out of bitterness. But on the other hand - I think for other people it's an overly strong message (based on your other post about being raised religious) that's aimed at people who are raised to much to believe they "need" to depend on other people for many things they should really be able to depend on themselves for. In The 7 Habits of Highly Successful People, the author talks about dependence, independence, and interdependence. A lot of times peop…
/r/TheRedPill30/03/14 07:37 AM
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There's a couple of explanations. People act like blue pill / red pill is only a women-related thing. This is rediculous - this has been going on since people were in societies. Modern day feminism is best described as George Orwell's Animal Farm - a book that appears to be copying soviet and communist history. The fact that women are now trying to control men as a group is what I think, but before that your boss was trying to own you, your company was trying to own you, your government was tryi…
/r/TheRedPill30/03/14 07:34 AM
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Yeah, but that article is titled "Regression toward the mean and IQ". I'm reasonably certain I'd rather than 2 kids with a woman who's IQ is 100 than have 4 kids with a woman who's IQ is 50.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/14 06:41 AM
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This was an interesting quote, but the "tl;dr" is bull and innacurate to reality. Have you ever had a girl open her mouth, start talking, and your initial attraction to her faded because she's clearly dumb as a rock? It is an evolutionary disadvantage to mate with a girl who's genetically predisposed to being an idiot.
/r/TheRedPill30/03/14 06:39 AM
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Thanks! I appreciate your thoughtful post as well. Lately it seems like theirs just a lot of pointless whining going on on the forum. Pointing out certain myths about women is one thing, but then it seems to get to a point where people are just unhelpfully bitching. Your post was a thoughtful welcome relief, lol. I've learned a lot from the Red Pill, though my background comes from believing a lot of feminist stuff, so the "that's not true at all, in fact it's the opposite" was very helpful for …
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 09:15 PM
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Everyone I know who's made a major change in their attitude like you're talking about has had to severely limit hanging out with the majority of their old friends and family for a while. When you change, the impulse of the group is to try to maintain the group social order and keep you in whatever place you're usually in. They're uncomfortable because they don't know what to expect, and this causes a panic as the stable social order is interrupted. Problem is that this is very detrimental to you…
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 09:10 PM
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His username is "chivalry_august". Hint...he's probably just here to troll.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 08:32 PM
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God I hate reddit formatting. Dear Reddit, just put what I type in. It would be better than your current "formatting" system.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 06:53 PM
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Best response is basically to tell her that if tonight doesn't work it's fine and that I can just do something else right? You should definitely not phrase it that way. Here's the things I've found that have been successful: If you have definite plans for her, something interesting you're inviting her to, a goal etc, and you know it's going to be a good time, you can actually be more aggressive into talking her into coming out. I know a lot of Game says to do the aloof thing all the time, but I'…
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 06:52 PM
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Lately, it seems like the forum draws in more of the lame "just want to endlessly complain" crowd. :-( I don't agree about the woman hating exactly, but those posters that do do it annoy the crap out of me.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 06:14 PM
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P.S. Sorry about the formatting, but reddit keeps doing it, and this is my 3rd try on it, best I could do.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 06:13 PM
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I agree with what you're getting at. Here's why it's villified and hated so much: As other posters said, the villification comes because women with beta orbiters bending over backwards to avoid telling them they're not interested in them, to keep them thinking they have a chance with them, etc. I've been on the end of this myself once - again and again, once the mood swung towards talking about dating or things going somewhere at all, she would always carefully deraill it. If I tried harder to g…
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 06:11 PM
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Cuckoldry like this should be punishable by death. That's rediculous. He should have no obligation to her, but other than that? Sometimes life is shitty.
/r/TheRedPill26/03/14 05:41 PM
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Hell fish aren't even aware of the existence of fishermen. They think that worms and their favorite foods are magically appearing in water in the places they happen to be at. Ahahahahah....I cracked up at this part. Cracked up. That hilarious, man.
/r/TheRedPill25/03/14 01:10 AM
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What are you going on about? I watched that whole clip - it's funny, but the above post is not a copy of it. What, you think Patrice O'Neal is the first person to make the fishing/women analogy?
/r/TheRedPill25/03/14 01:09 AM
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Yeah, but I'm 33 and when I grew up the girls around me who associated with feminism really did believe in equal rights. In retrospect it was unbalanced and one-sided - but I was just able to use this to be red pill enough to tell them to figure out things themselves that they should be able to figure out. I was able to do this without offending them, because this was what (at the time) feminism was telling them as well. I never did "great" with women, but I had a couple of girlfriends, a friend…
/r/TheRedPill24/03/14 10:48 PM
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George Orwell seems to have written a lot of great stuff that's very Red Pill in dealing with society, people, and how they work. His book animal farm seems to be based on Soviet Russia, but it applies to the process all human groups seem to go through, it practically defines modern feminism - Years pass, and the pigs start to resemble humans, as they walk upright, carry whips, and wear clothes. The Seven Commandments are abridged to a single phrase: "All animals are equal, but some animals are …
/r/TheRedPill24/03/14 05:50 PM
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Sounds like a great read on what NOT to do, I'm serious, I've learned some of my greatest, most effective negs from reading feminist articles like ''thing you should never say to a woman''... Read this, avoid everything he says and do the exact opposite, and you're good to go. Hahaha, I know right? It's crazy how much feminist-style articles are a laundry list of things that you should do, described as things that you shouldn't do. I'm reading an article right now that suggests that you should n…
/r/TheRedPill24/03/14 04:20 PM
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“Another problem with girls’ rooms is that they in some cases fall outside the information flow. And they are often characterized by conflicts and cliques.” At least they were honest... :-)
/r/TheRedPill24/03/14 04:13 PM
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he says " yea well cant guys just ask us as friends ? Like we dont want to start a relationship from it . We just want someone to pick us up from our house , tell us we are beautiful , have a dance and take a picture . We just want to feel special ". What I think is funny is that they actually, genuinely think that there's something in this for the guy. Very, very occasionally there is - when I was in high school I went to a dance or two with a girl just as friends, hoping to meet a different gi…
/r/TheRedPill24/03/14 03:37 PM
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:-)
/r/TheRedPill24/03/14 03:18 PM
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The ultimate goal that makes things easier for manipulators is to convince their target that they're not being manipulated. It's a lot more work to manipulate someone who's on guard, than it is to manipulate someone who believes you're their friend, looking out for them, and have their best interests in mind.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/14 06:10 AM
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Weak as in not having any options and not having the balls to leave when he "has" to. As much as I hate the whole "nice guy" theme, it's one of the very few things from feminism that led me to something useful. I started looking around at guys who were overly nice and understanding, and what women they end up with. And...wow. Contrary to stereotype, they do not end up alone. Instead - and this is worse - they end up with women who choose them because it's easier to use and abuse them. I looked a…
/r/TheRedPill24/03/14 05:55 AM
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It's even more hilarious if you read the article's title - DOZENS of women have walked topless through downtown Portland, in the US state of Maine, in order to bring attention to what they claim is a double standard when it comes to the public display of upper torsos.
/r/TheRedPill24/03/14 02:55 AM
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The things I notice most are self-delusion, obfuscation, and I guess what I'd consider "empty language", that is, words that appear to have meaning but have almost no meaning. They sound good. While I don't have an analysis handy beyond the Powertalk series of articles, the real question here is - is that actually new? The language used changes over time, but does the fundamental self-delusion, obfuscation, and words that have no real meaning - this has been around forever, especially at high le…
/r/TheRedPill24/03/14 02:36 AM
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Right. (edit - I mean that agreeing with you, not being sarcastic, just to be clear)
/r/TheRedPill23/03/14 06:41 PM
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Yeah, things like genetical mutilation are terrible, but not more terrible than boys who are kidnapped and forced into private armies - http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/joseph-konys-lords-resistance-army-2276555 At 12 years old, Charles Akallo should have been kicking a football – instead he was handed a gun. Abducted by the savage Lord’s Resistance Army in northern Uganda he had a simple choice: kill or be killed...“For training we would raid a village,” he tells me. “Each of us had to s…
/r/TheRedPill23/03/14 06:34 PM
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Yup... She's probably pissed off that she's been expecting that if she works hard all this time, she'll be the one getting the attention, or at least have the power to change the attention. She found out neither are true. In some ways I do feel sorry for these women - they're lied to in the same way that we're lied to that excessive beta behavior will get us the girl. I think for some of these girls, they're just as shocked to found out that no one cares as we are.
/r/TheRedPill23/03/14 05:40 PM
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Men acted like men, women acted like women....what is the problem again? Lol, the problem is that they're taken seriously that the above situation is "sexual harrassment"... I mean imprtant context is always left out of these things. There are contexts where maybe this would be innapropriate. But to claim that the "men" were doing something wrong and the women (who apparently had no real problem with this) were not is completely absurd. As is the idea that the "culture" was a problem when the re…
/r/TheRedPill23/03/14 05:38 PM
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Interviewers quite literally want you to lie to them, if you don't put the charm on and talk shit you're going to give them answers they don't want to hear. They want to be persuaded, not told of the truth. You're totally right, except I'd add they usually want a veneer of plausible deniability enough that they can claim they didn't know you were lying... Gosh, does that sound familiar? :-) Girls aren't the only ones shit testing...
/r/TheRedPill23/03/14 05:20 PM
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Managers who have no idea what you're doing (in occupations like programming, not service stuff where customers show up) very strongly emphasize what time you show up at, because it's their only measure of whether you're doing a "good job". :-(
/r/TheRedPill22/03/14 09:44 PM
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I've learned to do that, but - lol, it's just shit testing from your interviewer. Interviewer: Why did you quit? You: (Need to make up a lie - of course I wouldn't be here interviewing if my last job had been going well...)
/r/TheRedPill22/03/14 09:42 PM
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In general I don't think political beliefs should be part of a hiring process. But that article you linked to points out exactly what the OP is saying - “Two women, one of whom I work with and adore, and a friend of hers were hula hooping to some music. I didn’t have a problem with this,” Horvath told TechCrunch on Saturday. “What I did have a problem with is the line of men sitting on one bench facing the hoopers and gawking at them. It looked like something out of a strip club. When I brought …
/r/TheRedPill22/03/14 09:06 PM
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Haha, yeah...
/r/TheRedPill22/03/14 08:38 PM
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This is sidebar material right here. Wow, thanks! It's good to hear other people appreciate what I put a fair amount of time into writing!
/r/TheRedPill22/03/14 06:47 PM
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If I wanted to write all the thoughts I had back, I'd have to write an essay, lol. I didn't say it would make you want something you don't want though - that's not the idea. When I bike commute (which is only occassionally), I ride a cheaper bike than my favorite bike. I "settle" for a bike I don't like quite as much, because I don't want to have to worry about it being stolen. I'm certainly not riding a piece of crap that I hate around or anything, but it's not my #1 favorite bike either. Let's…
/r/TheRedPill22/03/14 06:46 PM
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thanks!
/r/TheRedPill22/03/14 03:39 PM
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I think you totally missed the point of this - I think he doesn't want to be in a "who's paying" b.s. situation. I don't think it even had anything to do with drinking.
/r/TheRedPill22/03/14 02:43 AM
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This is a great post. One thing I would add though, is that confidence is also in knowing when not to do something. Like: Bad - you don't go out and do something because you're sitting at work surfing the internet until 8pm and you just didn't get around to it (just like last time, the time before, etc). Or you see a cute girl, don't talk to her because it would interupt your sense of confidence. After all - things could go wrong! Good - your friends are trying to talk you and a girl that's send…
/r/TheRedPill22/03/14 01:52 AM
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Yeah...to be honest, I'm waiting for the followup that this was just a hoax, or that the person who sent it was fired or something. I've realized most of the mentality doesn't actually care about women being raped since they had a big fit that no one should be able to tell women that getting passed out drunk increases their chance of rape. I mean I knew 4 girls who I was friends with who were raped in college - and 3 of those 4 all involved drinking a lot of alcohol. Clearly these asshats agenda…
/r/TheRedPill22/03/14 01:23 AM
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This is just another example of how the patriarchy bla bla bla bla.... Edit: "They've internalized patriarchy", that's what they use.
/r/TheRedPill22/03/14 01:15 AM
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Hmm. I think what you're getting at is not a problem as much of about conflict, as it is in the different ways that men and women handle conflict. Women tend to be more avoidant of open conflict. Instead, they fight their battles behind the scenes, and through passive aggressive language, talking about people behind their backs, and emotional manipulation. The problem is - this is one of the reasons why women have much, much more trouble maintaining long term friendships with other women than me…
/r/TheRedPill22/03/14 01:04 AM
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While this is crappy - Court paperwork shows the woman gave the boy a sexually transmitted disease and claims to be carrying his baby. I'm not sure it belongs on The Red Pill. This forum isn't just about bitching about women...seems like it belongs more on the MRA forum.
/r/TheRedPill22/03/14 12:40 AM
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If you understand how women speak, it gives you much greater insight into how bosses, sales people, CEO's, recruiters...etc etc etc speak. It's not just women in a sex/dating context.
/r/TheRedPill21/03/14 05:48 PM
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Not sure how TRP feels about gaming chicks that are in teh relationshipz, but I tend to avoid that shit. There was a girl who, 6 months ago, liked me calling her cute and flirting with her. She mentions that she has a boyfriend. So I don't pursue her. Just found out 2 weeks ago that she broke up with that boyfriend quite a while ago, was single for a while, I didn't pursue her (thinking she had a boyfriend), and now she recently started dating some new guy and has a new boyfriend. This has happe…
/r/TheRedPill21/03/14 05:41 PM
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I am all for feminism where it is needed, such as in third world countries where women are denied education and genital mutilation etc While there is some truth to this, you should realize that even this is most likely a manipulative one-sided story. What I mean is - yes, what they do is terrible, but does your average man in that country also just as bad off? What's true is that what's happening is bad. Where the bullshit is is in that idea that only women should be helped - you can usually bet…
/r/TheRedPill21/03/14 05:28 PM
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Obviously I don't agree, but since your viewpoint is so completely different I don't see a need to continue a back and forth on it, other than to say that this is from the first link on the forum sidebar - I am here to say, for better or for worse, the frame around public discourse is a feminist frame, and we've lost our identity because of it. I think you're somehow confusing a "counter" to feminism with having to accept feminisms framing. The "Red Pill" is from the matrix - the idea of taking …
/r/TheRedPill21/03/14 05:24 PM
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You can never really have him. Even if you reach a point where you officially call each other ‘boyfriend’ and ‘girlfriend,’ there is a part of you which is always on edge, unsure of what is going to happen next. The rug can be pulled out at any moment, and there is something about the unknown that can be so intoxicated. When you are always waiting, always anticipating, the moment when affection or attention or confirmation actually arrives is like a huge dose of some incredible drug. What I'm re…
/r/TheRedPill21/03/14 05:07 PM
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With respect to the article here, I hate to say this but - a lot of women are like this, but a lot of women are not. Biggest problem is, the women who are not like this usually end up in relationships fairly early. If they're at all attractive at least. I mean they treat men like they enjoy being treated and they're attractive - they're going to be off the market. The kind of women who get turned on by being unavailable - well those women stay on the market forever. They comprise the majority of…
/r/TheRedPill21/03/14 04:59 PM
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Right, but also what's interesting is how strongly this models the parent/child relationship. I have Russian friends - it's very interesting to watch them raise their daughter. The mother dotes on the daughter. Gives her a lot of attention all the time. If the daughter wants something, she responds like 90% of the time. The father, on the other hand, responds about 25% of the time. Of course he's taking care of the kid, we're talking about "pay attention to me" kind of responses. If the kid was …
/r/TheRedPill21/03/14 04:54 PM
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TRP isn't a response to feminism I disagree. Sure, TRP could be a response to other movements, but practically it's mostly a response to feminism. TRP is about seeing through the bullshit to see how things really are, with it's main focus on women. If feminism wasn't promoting such a huge amount of bullshit about men and women, there'd be nothing to need to see through so there wouldn't be a point to TRP. TRP wouldn't exist if there was no bullshit to see through. Men's Rights is a response to f…
/r/TheRedPill21/03/14 08:32 AM
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I've never understood this idea - at what time do you think she's most likely to feel the most shameful about her one night stand and be in a totally different emotional state? The next morning. Now you're texting her asking if she had fun. Not to mention all she has to do is not text back and your after-the-fact plan is useless.
/r/TheRedPill21/03/14 08:19 AM
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I'm reminded of a recent posting by someone else who told a long success story, he was happier, getting sex way more often, etc - then ended with him saying he's 18 and his girlfriend is pregnant. Oops. What I'm saying is - sometimes your beta behavior protects you. In this case - it kept you from sleeping with a psycho girl who: - Says she's romantically interested in you - but goes over to a guys house right after to fuck him - Decides to accuse him of rape to other people despite her being in…
/r/TheRedPill21/03/14 08:16 AM
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Haha, that's hilarious, but I think it ignores the important "eliminate the competition" aspect of this. What does the aging feminist want? She wants a successful man her age or older. What does the successful man her age or older want? The gorgeous young girl. And he's often delighted to sleep with her, marry her - but marrying her so takes him off the market completely from being available for the aging feminist. How can the aging feminist remove the gorgeous young girl from market? Convince h…
/r/TheRedPill20/03/14 07:03 PM
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What's ironic is that I agree that the "anorexic model" look that women often seem to think other women should look like is, indeed, unhealthy. But those forums never end up being filled with Scarlett Johansson types not liking an absurd beauty standard...
/r/TheRedPill20/03/14 05:21 PM
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As said on /r/MensRights some time ago, Feminism is basically women asking men to do shit for them (make us equal, make us safe, make us successful, etc.), therefore admitting that they can't do those things for themselves, and showing they are truly the submissive sex, trying to top from the bottom. I finally figured this out - it's Lead Power vs Follow Power. A Lead gets more power by - 1. Being able to do more stuff themselves 2. It becoming easier to get people to follow them 3. Getting high…
/r/TheRedPill20/03/14 05:19 PM
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Thanks! I think that just as much or more than alpha/beta is lead/follow. Really - both genders often want to follow. It's just easier. But men end up with the "lead" role. Last year my old boss left and we got a new boss for our department. Our new boss is basically Michael Scott (from the office), except he's even more of a "pleaser" and a follower. The things he say sound nice but have no relation to what we're doing (Posture Talk, if I remember right). I dunno, it's just really brought thing…
/r/TheRedPill20/03/14 05:48 AM
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being nice is a good thing You must be new.
/r/TheRedPill20/03/14 03:31 AM
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It's good to have them as friends, but make sure your best friend is a natural alpha. You have to learn from somewhere. That's great if you're already a natural alpha yourself, but if so, you're probably not here. Question is - what use are you to a natural alpha if you're not one yourself? You said "best friend". You're either always beta compared to him, or he has little reason to be best friends with you. (Again, assuming you're not an alpha yourself.)
/r/TheRedPill19/03/14 10:18 PM
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I don't think it's helpful to try to categorize whether people are useful based on alpha/beta/etc - just because I haven't found it to be useful myself. You have to watch the effect they have to decide. The different categories are useful/cockblock in different ways. It's a real mixed bag - they both do a lot of the same things in very different ways. An alpha will cockblock you by competing directly with you to get the girl. A beta will cockblock you by competing for your attention vs the girl …
/r/TheRedPill19/03/14 08:34 PM
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At 8 I'm pretty sure I was wacking off to seeing attractive women figuring skating on tv, lol.
/r/TheRedPill19/03/14 05:02 PM
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Yeah, I'm disappointed by all the mra-esque or reverse feminist kind of whining here. There are a number of situations where this could be a problem, but at 8 I'm pretty sure I was wacking off. I would have been delighted in general. It's hypocritical that if a guy was doing this it would be all "end of the world", sure, but I hardly see being just as stupid back as an improvement in attitude.
/r/TheRedPill19/03/14 05:00 PM
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At 5 I hadn't hit puberty yet - I think I said I wanted to marry my mother (because I hadn't hit puberty - had no idea what sex or relationships beyond simple caring were). But I think at 8 I was wacking off already. I certainly remember having female babysitters and wanting to see them naked.
/r/TheRedPill19/03/14 04:38 PM
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I would like to do this also but a test costs around $300 so I've heard Lol, do you have any idea how much a child costs? I mean - I wish you luck, and you're in a difficult position, but there's a difference between not looking back at things you can't change vs not doing smart things going forward. It looks like you can buy a $30 kit from Walmart, then pay a $130 lab fee to find out the results.
/r/TheRedPill19/03/14 04:31 PM
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Post-college, I had a job for two years that I hated that was all older guys. I left that job, but I had no friends, I was living at my dads place, and I was just - pretty depressed. Like "life is going nowhere" depressed, not "wanting to kill myself" depressed, but still - I felt really really old and like any enjoyment in my life was just over. I went into a recruiter, and he seemed like a cool guy, and he asks me "what do you want from a job?" and I said "I want to work with hot chicks". :D A…
/r/TheRedPill19/03/14 03:56 PM
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You should of said, "Its not big deal", or umm thanks, you want to come across as humble, that you are nice in nature and not trying to impress. While I think the OP overreacted, "umm thanks" or "It's not a big deal" is probably the worst reply I can imagine. She called him "nice" (a word I suspect that was neutral in that context) - "umm thanks" is either acting weirdly butthurt, or reinforcing "hi, I'm boringly nice" stereotype of categorizing himself as "Nice Guy" (boring edition). What's mor…
/r/TheRedPill18/03/14 10:17 PM
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I like your post. I'd add another definition of emotional safety though - a woman feels safe when she's following (in a relationship with, in love with, etc) a worthwhile man. Imagine you're at your job. When do you feel safer - when your boss is competent, or when your boss is a doormat idiot who can't lead? Honestly, I think jobs are the best guy-viewpoint example - I feel emotionally uncertain (unsafe) when my boss is to much of a doormat, or when he's to much of a talking-head idiot. I feel …
/r/TheRedPill18/03/14 09:16 PM
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I...agree with parts of your post, but not all of it. I think "it's not about sex" is bull. The "power" narrative is about how sex is about power, so a lifetime of rape being used to send the message that sex == bad to girls makes this make sense for women. I don't really think that - as long as they're not doing something extreme like walking around naked - how a girl dress really relates to her chances of getting raped. It's certainly FAR below the influence of alcohol. How a women dresses doe…
/r/TheRedPill18/03/14 08:54 PM
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Ha, that's a pretty cool article, thanks. I would say it's further than that though - that most of his articles start off with a stream of hate usually directed at men or geeks, the complete lack of any sort of expectations from women whatsoever, plus what I've seen from the articles and comments - I think it's past a better beta and into building a more useful gamma/omega. I remember one of the very interesting things I read here that really opened my eyes was that the stream of "what women wan…
/r/TheRedPill18/03/14 06:23 PM
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I say that I don't think the political hamstering of the right (or the left) belongs in this forum. When conservatives bring up negative terms about liberals here, all I hear from right-wingers hear is the same kind of hamstering I hear from women, feminists, and liberal politics as well. They think they're a special little snowflake. They claim they're "thinking for themselves" while blindly repeating the same talking points everyone else who listens to the same show they do does. Just like fem…
/r/TheRedPill18/03/14 05:29 PM
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This teaches me one thing; feminism as it is doesn't necessarily help women. Instead it can hijack and use authority and agency as it sees fit and disposes it whenever it deems suitable. By the end of college, I had known 4 girls who were raped or sexually assaulted. There were several things I noticed: For some reason, a girls fear of being raped directly correlated to it happening. I don't know why. But 3 of the 4 girls who were raped, before that, would go on and on about their fear of being …
/r/TheRedPill18/03/14 05:12 PM
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I agree with many of the other comments, but I think that something has been missed - you need to file charges to protect yourself. There are a certain group of people (narcissists?) for whom everything is about their ego and their self image. For these kind of people, the kind of damage to their ego of everyone knowing that they did what she did, and people making fun of her for it, is unacceptable. As long as this kind of person is in your school (I cannot tell you for sure whether this girl i…
/r/TheRedPill18/03/14 04:43 PM
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If by that you mean "here's how to be an inneffectual beta", then yes.
/r/TheRedPill17/03/14 08:07 PM
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The Dr Nerdlove site is a site that writes articles to draw in feminist and female readers. He seems to have discovered what's not a terrible secret - pandering for page views is much better if you target women rather than men. A man reads a good article and thinks "wow, good article!". A woman reads an article she enjoys and posts it to her facebook wall to share among all her friends. It's not more complicated than pageviews. If you look back 3 or 4 years, the person writing the articles used …
/r/TheRedPill17/03/14 07:59 PM
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This may have been true for first wave, but it is not true for second or third wave. Women have moved on to figuring out ways to acquire the rewards associated with being a man, without putting in the work or taking the risk. There's talk of being equal, and protests and lobbying designed to attain equal rewards, but that's it. Unfortunately, I have to agree with you. In the previous generation, sure, the word was overly abused a lot, but most of the girls I knew who were into feminism strongly …
/r/TheRedPill17/03/14 07:10 PM
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I think this happens when a woman feels she is much more invested in a relationship than the guy is. This is then a desperate attempt to try and get the guy to show or do a massive investment and get on the relatively same level as her. Hmm, interesting thought... I dunno though. I recently had an experience like this, and the girl described having a consistently unhappy childhood of being ignored. I wonder if it's a reflection of childhood - a child (completely before hormones hit at all) is be…
/r/TheRedPill17/03/14 05:00 AM
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He should've just asked himself "is this manly?" And he might have saved that relationship. The problem here is that you're letting the woman decide what's manly for you. It's both fairly unmanly to do that, and you also just open yourself up to be manipulated using that as a tool. Plus, how could you be more insecure than by letting the woman decide what is and isn't manly? Her opinion changes with the week - you'll go out of your mind. Well probably not because Scarlett played the typical hot …
/r/TheRedPill14/03/14 04:49 PM
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That's an interesting though, thanks. I mean I'm not really happy about anyone feeling like they need to commit suicide. The irritation part is where it's tried to turn into this thing where men trying to kill themselves isn't a problem, whereas women being called "bossy" or something is important. Certainly not a fan of anyone of either gender reaching a point of feeling they need to kill themselves.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/14 04:28 PM
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Although females attempt suicide at a higher rate Thanks for posting the link. The next question after that is - what does that mean? Does that actually mean more women try to commit suicide? Or does "higher rate" equivalent to something like that men only try to commit suicide once or twice - because they're more successful, so after they're dead they don't keep trying, whereas women "try" a lot more because suicidal women live much longer to try it more often?
/r/TheRedPill14/03/14 02:39 AM
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Fair enough.
/r/TheRedPill14/03/14 02:31 AM
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Wow, I see a lot of the "revenge fantasy" comments. In my real life, I've found it more sexually profitable to lower that persons priority to extremely low, but not to discount them entirely. Unless they're toxic (they screw up other things for you when they're around), in another year they could be back in town and jumping over themselves to sleep with you with no effort on your part. I dunno how to put it, it's usually easy to keep women at a distance - you either just stop escalating, or dees…
/r/TheRedPill13/03/14 11:41 PM
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As much as this pisses me off, I want to add one thing from the actual article - A confrontation between the father and boy started. The boy apparently wasn't listening to the father's commands and reached for something. It ended with 17 year old being shot and killed at the scene. I mean this sounds like a bunch of hillbilly/ghetto types all mixed up with each other. While I wouldn't automatically believe the father (the guy who did the shooting), if what he said is true, if I was in a girls be…
/r/TheRedPill13/03/14 09:19 PM
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This doesn't belong here. This is an MRA topic, not a red pill topic. It doesn't relate to sexual strategy, it doesn't relate to social strategy, it's just complaining.
/r/TheRedPill13/03/14 09:14 PM
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Oh what crap. A father doesn't have the absolute right to be present in the middle of a medical procedure (where the patient is spread eagle and often shitting herself). How would you like it if someone (with no reason to be there) thought they have the right to be in the operating room when you were having surgery, even if you didn't want them there? Agree completely. Does your ex-wife who you hate have the right to be in the operating room if you get a vascectomy? We're not ducks - babies don'…
/r/TheRedPill13/03/14 09:13 PM
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You know, it's not really not women won't help that pisses me off as much as how they'll attack you for having male friends who would help if you ever got in that situation. Have male friends you share enthusiasm for something with? "bromance". Going out with your guy friends when you have a girlfriend? "omg all my girlfriends agree it makes me uncomfortable so you should stop doing it". You have a regular guy night with only guys and no girls there? She will actively try to come up with manipul…
/r/TheRedPill13/03/14 08:59 PM
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In some ways you're right, but on the other hand consider that the only 2 people who are alive who witnessed the situation are the only 2 people saying what happened. How many times have you heard a story where the cops said he reached for a gun, then later it turns out there's a video and the cops were just straight up lying?
/r/TheRedPill13/03/14 08:21 PM
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That's not "the reason", despite how hard feminist try to spin this into it "it doesn't matter that 4 times as many men die, because hamster hamster I'm a woman so you're supposed to feel sorry for me and not care about men". Women's "preferred" method also involves a lot of "she can be saved at the last minute". It also involves a lot of "oh, maybe someone will save me or it won't work!". Or "oops, I didn't take enough pills". Perhaps the less-definite-outcome aspect of how women do it directly…
/r/TheRedPill13/03/14 08:13 PM
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Yeah, I'd like to see these statistics. Even then there's also - frankly - the statistical problem of people who "attempt" to commit suicide but always do so in a way that means it won't actually work. A man who blows his head off with a shotgun is often in a different situation than a woman who takes to many pills, knowing on some level that someone will stop her and take her to the hospital. I mean - back in high school, I tried to commit suicide once at my lowest point. But it was by sitting …
/r/TheRedPill13/03/14 08:08 PM
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a victim of unwanted sexual touching/rape. That's absurdly stupid, it's like saying at one point 90% of people have been a victim of being beaten to within an inch of their life, or flicked off. Shit, even as a guy I've been the "victim" of unwanted sexual touching from a girl. And I mean she directly grabbed my crotch. That was uncomfortable and I didn't want it to happen - but, I went to Target to buy some toothpaste, they were completely out of my brand - I didn't want that to happen either. …
/r/TheRedPill12/03/14 07:02 AM
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A music video filled with innuendo and young models isn't Rape Culture, its just a music video. "rape" is the new (since the 90's) boogeyman to scare women about sex and men. It's the replacement for sex being "sinful". It's the replacement for the shark eating the girl who's skinny dipping. For the serial killer who always "just happens" to come across the couple having sex. For the supernatural killer killing the promiscuous girl then mysteriously dissappearing just as it was about to get to t…
/r/TheRedPill12/03/14 06:56 AM
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Between elementary and high school, girls’ self–esteem drops 3.5 times more than boys’. Lol, this is like saying that a rich person being robbed of their money is hurt more than a poor person, because they had 3.5 times more money that they lost. As far as I can tell, girls simply have much higher self-esteem as boys as children.
/r/TheRedPill11/03/14 12:18 AM
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bragsplaining, lol "What I'm explaining to you, ok, is that it's 'very offensive' to me that I got hit on by 3 guys this morning despite that from looking at me you wouldn't think guys were interested in me at all".
/r/TheRedPill10/03/14 11:59 PM
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It's something from "game" - the idea is that if you're trying to get laid, it's supposedly advantageous. It provides more emotional motivation to have sex with a girl (rather than giving up that time because it's to hard). It also (in theory) causes you to give off a more sexual vibe because you're not relieving all of your own tension all the time - it builds up. Theoretically it's like not eating for a day, in order to motivate you to want to eat more. To give you more drive to eat, to cause …
/r/TheRedPill10/03/14 05:42 PM
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Thanks for posting this links, original article wasn't very useful without them, with them it's fascinating...
/r/TheRedPill10/03/14 05:20 PM
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Great post. #1 also known as "humblebragging". Ex: "It's so hard to find time to get together with all the demands doing charity work has placed on my schedule!"
/r/TheRedPill10/03/14 05:19 PM
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I called it shaming language in a previous comment (which it is), but Powertalk is great to. Thanks for the link.
/r/TheRedPill10/03/14 04:44 PM
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It's not that complex. It's just a bullshit trope, they parrot it because they've learned it from the media or school, so they say it. Yeah - the latest one I read today is that treating women like a gentlemen is "treating them like objects instead of people". It's just a shaming phrase: 1. Sounds scary and demeaning enough to cast doubt on whoever it's being used against, and emotional enough to get attention. 2. But vague enough that you cannot call anyone one using it, and the person using it…
/r/TheRedPill10/03/14 03:10 PM
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What is funny about that is that all the women in the skit giving him crap were older, less attractive, somewhat overweight women....
/r/TheRedPill10/03/14 12:33 AM
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No offence but I do not think that she was really into you. I'm not saying this is impossible. But it brings up the blue pill idea that women "know" whether they're attracted to you right away and that's that, which isn't how it works (usually). Imagine for a moment that you meet a girl. She's overweight, you're pretty it's her that smells bad, she hasn't put any effort into her appearance and she has a bad attitude. A month later you run into another girl. This girl isn't overweight, she's chee…
/r/TheRedPill09/03/14 04:55 PM
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Also you may not realize it because your frustrated attitude don't pull any women but feminism enabled men to get a dozen times more sex than ever before. That's ridiculous, feminism didn't do this - effective birth control was why that happened. It had nothing to do with feminism, feminism just jumped on to take credit for it after a man invented birth control.
/r/TheRedPill09/03/14 04:48 PM
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It amused me to no end that people on the "right" have adopted tactics they learned from the left, then in a massive circlejerk convince themselves they're "superior" and they're totally not just doing the same thing. Then they grab a big bowl of popcorn, turn on Fox News and Rush Limbaugh, parrot back what they're being told - and pretend they're thinking for themselves. They must be thinking for themselves right - because everyone on their favorite channels, blogs, and forums tells them that a…
/r/TheRedPill09/03/14 04:42 PM
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The women in these situations aren't lying. They genuinely want to see how devoted their man is to them. What the women don't realise is that if the man did come begging for them to get back together, she'd find him unnattractive. You've practically described what a shit test is. That's why it's a "shit" test - she does something shitty to see how you react. Even if I go with your definition of shit test (which I find to limited, because women will shit test other women, etc), you just redescrib…
/r/TheRedPill09/03/14 03:33 PM
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A rich powerful woman is simply not attractive to a man Yeah, I think this is misworded - men aren't repulsed by it, they just don't care. I'm sure both Scarlett Johanson and Katherine Bates are rich. My attraction to one and repulsion (sexually) to the other is not at all related to how much money or how much fame they have.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/14 05:39 PM
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I like the part where the dating dynamic is oh-so different now than it was five or 10 years ago. I suspect it is for her. She's gotten older - and so have all of her friends. 10 years older than she was before. When she was younger, more alpha-types were interested in her. Now that she's older, the only guys asking her out are the remaining betas. She tells herself "guys have changed", not acknowledging the reality that it's more that she's hit the wall, and yes - alpha men are less attracted t…
/r/TheRedPill08/03/14 05:20 PM
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The only good thing about female coworkers is that they bitch and moan so much, it acts as a safeguard against a legitimately over-demanding work environment. Yeah, I'm torn, but I've found this to be true - while there are an overwhelmingly large number of aggravating factors with women, you have different ones with men. Namely - burnout. Women have trouble focussing on goals, but men can focus goals so much that your job will eat you alive.
/r/TheRedPill08/03/14 05:08 PM
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Wow - that got way to long, lol, sorry.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 07:32 PM
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That being said: I know that women are much more empathetic than men, but I do not believe that makes them more emotional. Typically, I think (not all the time) men are more likely to get carried away by their emotions. They're more likely to murder on an impulse, for example. They're more likely to get angry. Yet they also seem to be better at controlling their emotions in situations that they are not already emotionally invested in. Professional investments, such as their jobs and finances, th…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 07:32 PM
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I mean damn, I work in programming (like many people here), and your list describes exactly what I'm going to get every time I bring up the topic of whether to use a technical tool like Maven or not. We're talking about a cold technical tool - same thing.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 06:41 PM
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It seems to me like you're simply describing the mechanisms used by every single group. All of those things apply as well to political groups (democrats! republicans! pro-life! pro-choice! pro-biking! etc etc etc... Name a group that genuinely doesn't do these things, and it will be a group that's not very successful or popular.
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 06:39 PM
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Yeah, that REALLY hits the nail on the head. The people who the message was aimed at often didn't listen to it. For some reason, the people could should have been safely ignoring it internalized it twice as hard. Friend of mine was showing me this video where this black guy who grew up in the ghetto was talking about disrespecting women, etc. This guy, with hisbackground and the specifics of his talk, was rather right. But then you looked around at his audience - was it a bunch of hardcore gangb…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 06:04 PM
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This may be a difference since I live in the Netherlands (where cultural gender values are a bit less traditional) The Red Pill is mostly an American thing - I'm not sure, no offense, that your experience growing up in the Netherlands is particularly any more related than comparing what someone was told growing up in a tribe in Africa or something. The complaints about what people were taught or told are societal. Nonetheless, while I was also "taught" to be fair, it didn't quite sort out that w…
/r/PurplePillDebate07/03/14 05:56 PM
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I am totally playing devil's advocate here, but you'll notice that her obnoxious behavior draws the attention of the bouncer who is the guy who takes the guy down. By the time the guy with the gun gets close to him, he's ready and alerted that something bad is probably about to go down. Her panicked running away and pushing people aside alerts him to this and he's ready, it also likely distracts the guy coming in who's instinct is to watch her and he's late in getting his gun up to the male boun…
/r/TheRedPill07/03/14 04:30 PM
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lol...
/r/TheRedPill07/03/14 07:23 AM
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Exactly!
/r/TheRedPill07/03/14 07:22 AM
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This is pretty close to what I meant - I wouldn't even go as far as "manipulate", rather just that they don't perceive how things are "supposed" to work in society, they just interact with society as it "does" work, on an ammoral level. A lot of times people are uncomfortable (not saying it's good or bad) discussing issues dealing with human interaction without at least a nod towards a sense of morality in the discussion. So telling the truth is sociopathy? I'm sure you don't mean literally this…
/r/TheRedPill07/03/14 07:22 AM
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Haha, that's hilarious. But I meant more of what you were alluding to - women pursuing gay men well into adulthood (they're "sexy" queues are "he's not attracted to me" queues) even though they're in their 20's, 30's, and 40's. They're still convinced they're going to find Mr. Impossible (and telling everyone else - don't settle!), still haven't caught on that Mr. Sensitive isn't going to overcome an overwhelming amount of self-generated resistance to be with them, etc.
/r/TheRedPill07/03/14 03:44 AM
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