A true cold shower

Kepaso · 2013-01-15T00:19:22+00:00

I have been raised with values which place men and women on equal footing

Men and women are equals in society, laws etc. But in relashionships it s verry diffferent. This is the most basic and important thesis of the redpill-seduction-relashionship, and the one that blew my mind the most. Women since they are little girls are preparing themselves for an unequal relashionship, on how she can find a man better then themselves. They screen, weed out betas, analyse, socialise, put make up, compete amongst each other and wait for the better guy. Our society is based on that. This is why in children's stories it s always princes that are saving the girl, not a poor farmer. It's unconscious but this is also why men are more active, creative, liking competition, building stuff, learning guitar : it,s just a rat race to impress the girls! The best will win the most girls.

redpillschool · 2013-01-14T22:59:46+00:00

But I do know if it were true it would make me sad. I have been raised with values which place men and women on equal footing. Loving a woman and being loved in return is a concept I deemed my right, and something which was only acquired through honesty and emotional submission.

It can be hard at first to realize it.

Often, people give us a lot of resistance because it seems like we're anti-love. But truthfully, I love love. I miss love. At least I miss what I understood was love.

But no amount of pining over something that doesn't exist will help. I hope you read the side bar, the psots "Women in Love," "Men in love," and "Of love and war" are crucial reading.

Do you enjoy treating women as children?

It's not exactly as though I treat women as I would children. I don't send them to bed, nor do I pick out their dinners for them. It's that I have to discipline their outbursts with negative re-enforcement, and give them positive when they do something good.

Sometimes women will act out (whereas a man will just approach you and say, "hey bro, is there a problem?"). Women won't do that, women will act out a scene when they think something is wrong.

By not putting up with their temper tantrum, you are establishing that communication is ok, but not like that. This is basically what we call shit-testing. I won't go into it more here, there's plenty written about shit tests elsewhere.

Is it not a pain always being in command, always controlling?

It's not as comforting knowing that you can never be vulnerable. But you do learn to accept that. You learn that you are the man and it's your job.

I don't consider myself controlling. I consider it being direct. If I want my current squeeze to sit next to me, I grab her by the waist and place her next to me. It's not controlling, she likes it in fact.

Is that pain (if you experience it at all) worth the rewards?

Opposed to being beta? Yes.

and MOST importantly: is there a way to compromise? Treat them partly as they want to be treated, and partly as you want to treat them? What is your take on this, redpill community?

I think this is where you're a little off. The red pill way to treat them is the way they want to be treated. They just won't spell it out for you. They don't really understand it. They just know what makes their vaginas tingle (and what doesn't).

gmntg · 2013-01-15T01:07:50+00:00

just check out today's post at rational male, should clear your mind of any doubt. Make sure you read the links as you go through the text, so you get the basic concepts.

there ya go:

http://rationalmale.wordpress.com/2013/01/14/house-of-cards/

shute · 2013-01-16T14:54:41+00:00

Let me proviso this, by saying this is my opinion only.

Men are NOT equal to women.

The very thing that makes us attracted to them, their beauty, soft heart, femininity, tenderness makes that makes them excellent for child rearing, support, sex and companionship (traits we like) makes them utterly incapable of doing things at a similar or greater level to a man outside of these select areas.

sure we are in a bell curve, and so the best woman golfer might be better than the male newb who's picked up his first 5 iron. but the genders are not equal.

look up the story of the williams sisters challenging the lowers (100 or higher) men tennis ranks to a game of tennis, and how they got absolutely destroyed on the court. or the wnba players beaten by a male high school team. men are physically superior, and more logical and can keep their emotions is check.

These things enabled us to be great providers/ hunter gatherers for families in the past. we created civilisation with thousands of inventors, playwrights, poets and thinkers, soldiers, and engineers. all keeping the cogs of progress turning. men did that.

A single woman's value to the group was more (in the sense that reproductive necessity is what was central to progress and superiority in an agrarian economy where more hands = more soldiers and more farmers= more power) than an average man.

It's why men are soldiers, we defend the group, we take the risks, and we reap the rewards.

where it got all messed up is because civilisation has already reached an apex of security and comfortableness. men have no natural predators, we still have the aggressive and tribal instinct but no existential threat. no cycle of struggle and triumph. just a deep neverending malaise.

so we sit on the throne. and the softness of women makes our power/ strength and resolve wane over time. *

so much so that nowadays without any real existential threat, we turn on ourselves. the kings, are now leached at, by women and weaker men, tricksters who slowly sap our energy until we gave way and seceeded more and more power to women. we remain in permanent anxiousness. neither moving forward nor backward culturally.

the gears have ground to a halt

This is where the wave of feminism came about.

There's a story the arabs tell, that if you treat a dog with unconditional love it will eventually turn on and bite you, or those you care for. but if you treat it with measured softness and harshness as and when you need to, it will remain loyal to you forever and give more of itself that it will even die for you. You never love too much or hate too much.

You can see the effect of being too soft, on children of rich people. how weak and frail they get, from having been handed everything on a plate. how they are unable to even fathom the strength and effort their fathers went through to acquire such power and wealth, that if everything were taken away they could not make it again with the lack of strength in their hands and the weakness of their resolve.

so i would say this, you must never be complacent. you treat that which you love, with moments of unrestricted gentleness and kindness, but you also, treat them wish harshness as the situation warrants it. there are some women still around, that have been honed enough from environments of traditional society, that they can be worked with a lighter touch (eastern europe, far east, to name a few) because the men there have used the harshness but forgot something of the kindness. but you must never rest, you have to learn to love the fight and have the fight to be a man and remain on the throne. or join the thousands of blue pill bodies that have voluntarily destroyed their own happiness, and wellbeing by giving up their power.

*i largely gleamed this from reading evo psych and jack donovans way of man and the epic of gilgamesh.

(woah did not think i would write so much, maybe this will be of use to some newbies)

Samseau · 2013-01-14T23:10:35+00:00

"Do you enjoy treating women as children? Is it not a pain always being in command, always controlling? Is that pain (if you experience it at all) worth the rewards?"

Not at all. My natural manly instincts take over and I immensely enjoy lording my power over the female sex. I enjoy banging lots of different girls and I am 100x better off without most female nonsense. I get all the benefits, but none of the costs.

And besides, I love children. Children are fun, and so are women. But nothing more.

"is there a way to compromise? Treat them partly as they want to be treated, and partly as you want to treat them? What is your take on this, redpill community?"

There's no need to compromise, because you're just following what is TRUE. True information needs no compromise. Treat women as they are beneath you, and you'll be incomparably happier than if you didn't.

cuckoo99 · 2013-01-14T23:39:30+00:00

I've never been deluded about what women are like. I'm a cuckold fetishist though. I'm a masochist. You can know the truth about women, but what you do with it is different.

My fetish has been with me for a long time, and so I've never been deluded about women's nature. I just choose to submit to their evil.

By the way I'm not trolling here. I posted before on the askwomen and the regular reddit and they HATE HATE HATE me because I tell the truth about them.

You have to understand that women inhabit a completely primitive world. They have no concept of equality. You are either their master or their slave.

Title	A true cold shower
Author	46xy
Upvotes	19
Comments	27
Date	January 14, 2013 10:48 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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