Blue pill situation. Need your guys help

pyrofool · 2013-04-23T17:23:05+00:00

If you appreciate the friendship, be her friend. Don't do anything for her that you would not do for a guy friend. Start chasing other women.

SpawnQuixote · 2013-04-23T19:04:00+00:00

Hey man, welcome to the sub. I've got a lot of things to say but know that I'm not patronizing you. It's hard to take your own ego out of criticism, but it's always better when you do.

You're coming at this with the wrong mindset.

Why should I work to get something others easily achieve?

Bagging someone you've identified as a whore shouldn't damage your own self-image at all. The question isn't "is she easy?", but more "is she hot enough?". Chasing down a girl is definitely fun, but the difficulty of getting a girl doesn't play into her value. Her value is in how much other dudes want to fuck her and how much you want to fuck her. If she's "hard to get", that means she's manipulating you and you're allowing yourself to be manipulated. It also leads to some serious oneitis. "I spent so much time trying to get her, she must be worth a lot. If she's worth a lot, she must be better than the other girls that I got with more ease. If she's worth more, I should make her my girlfriend." All of a sudden you're in a LTR. If she's easy, great. Fuck her and think about getting tested. If she's hard to get, she probably thinks she's worth a lot, and will demand more. Walk away. Bag the hot easy chick.

The "I don't want to fuck her anymore." really sounds like rationalization for being friendzoned. Your ego is hurting because she doesn't want to fuck you when she obviously fucks other dudes, and you say to yourself "Well I don't want to fuck her anyways" to protect yourself. It's like when you hit on a girl, she rejects you, and you walk back to your boys and say "she ain't even cute though". You do want to fuck her, and it's ok to want to fuck her.

I genuinely appreciate her friendship.

I don't know you, but I doubt this is true. You don't appreciate her friendship, you appreciate friendship. Her friendship can be replaced by anyone else's with the same effect. It's not like she's a therapist or psychologist and she really analyzed the roots of your problem and helped you unlock a whole new level of introspection and self-honesty. She was probably just tender to you and provided some comfort during a time of vulnerability. I get that. But don't trick yourself into thinking that the girl across the street or the girl at the club couldn't do the same thing. Women are very tender, and there's a warmth there that can't be duplicated in men. But don't think that this woman is something special just because you leaned on her once. I'm not saying don't be friends with her. I'm saying don't use "I'm friends with her" as an excuse not to fuck her. It's just an excuse and you probably know that.

Find the strength you need in yourself. Do whatever you have to do - workout, drink, or take the day off and spend your time relaxing and thinking shit over. You don't need to be so dependent on women, and especially not this particular woman. It's harder, but you come out the other side a lot stronger than you would have if you leaned on her.

It would be an asshole move if I suddenly stopped talking to her for no real reason.

I don't know where you got the idea that gaming a girl meant cutting off communication, but that's counter-intuitive and counter-productive. If you stopped talking to her, she would be confused for a week or so, but she'd move on very quickly because you're not the alpha dude you're trying to be yet. You're still blue pill, as you've said, which probably means you're still beta. You'll stop talking to her, and she won't feel any biological need to chase you down and stick to you. Keep talking to her, but put her friendship on the backburner. Put her friendship on the fourth backburner behind self-improvement, getting laid, and overall elevation of social status. You could cut off communication, work on yourself, and then talk to her again, but that's personal preference.

Once you start taking the necessary steps to become more attractive, she'll become attracted to you. You'll need to introduce a new frame to the relationship, but I doubt that'll be a problem at that point. Also, you might be fucking hotter chicks than her by then. Right now, she's the hottest chick that is also your friend. Later on, she may be that moderately hot chick that you talk to every once in a while.

AlwaysLateToThreads · 2013-04-23T19:35:54+00:00

Well, you have to let women know that you desire them sexually. So start by doing that.

iamthestate · 2013-04-23T20:38:15+00:00

You're on a nose dive to oneitis, if you haven't crashed already. Don't pursue this "friendship." You're just lying to yourself. She knows you want to fuck her, that's why she's keeping you around. Welcome to the orbit! If you're serious about the Redpill, this will be a very emotional and transformational stage in life. You will have internal ache and conflict. Your nice guy frame (the one she sees you as) will clash with your new Redpill frame. Confusion will ensue. You will either softly part ways now, or ride it to a bitter end. The choice is yours.

[deleted] · 2013-04-23T23:13:43+00:00

Then stay her friend at least.

Have a female wingman.

thecajunone · 2013-04-24T06:03:01+00:00

Friend zone her. Chase other women.

favours_of_the_moon · 2013-04-25T09:45:21+00:00

Network off of her.

If girls see her with you as a friend, it's like you're vouched for. If she's cool she'll even be your wing girl. A chick like this is solid gold.

Down the line you might even be able to segue into friends with benefits. But for right now, just play it cool and network the shit out of her.

david-me · 2013-04-23T18:22:26+00:00

Sounds to me like you might want to try men for a while.

TheBaltimoron · 2013-04-23T19:22:26+00:00

So, you have a friend you appreciate, who may or may not fuck you. And you see this as a problem, and the solution you've found is to not talk to her anymore.

You seriously need to examine your life and figure out why anyone would want to fuck you with this worldview you have.

Title	Blue pill situation. Need your guys help
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Date	April 23, 2013 5:17 PM UTC (13 years ago)
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