Freedom of Speech?

TheRockSays-

February 12, 2013

11 upvotes

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Title	Freedom of Speech?
Author	TheRockSays-
Upvotes	11
Comments	18
Date	February 12, 2013 11:44 AM UTC (13 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/TheRedPill
Original Link	https://old.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/comments/18dfui/freedom_of_speech/
Archive Link	https://theredarchive.com/r/TheRedPill/freedom-of-speech.3516 https://theredarchive.com/post/3516

[–]telnet_reddit_803 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]Geno7770 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]jookato-4 points-3 points-2 points 13 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link

[–]Modredpillschool[M] 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link

[–]jookato0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link

It wasn't a jab at you, but yeah, I was (not-very-) stealthily trying to prod you into responding to my lengthy (and IMO reasonable) response to what you wrote there.

Perhaps you'd like to respond properly too?

Racism is being defined as assigning cultural values, morals, or behaviors to somebody due to their race.

By whom? :p

I'll stick to the definition I referred to in that post: Racism is hating someone purely because they're black (or just a different race than you). That would be stupid. But expanding the definition of racism to cover "everything that might be offensive to someone somewhere" is just bullshit. Do you happen to be black, by the way?

Before you complain about your freedom of speech, let me stop you dead in your tracks. This isn't freedom america, this is the red pill.

So, in essence, first you rejected (and prohibited) discussion on issues of race. Then, because that would be a bit of a bad start for discussing free speech and what can and can not be discussed, you're rejecting that discussion too.

"Freedom America" isn't exactly free either, by the way.

Anything that detracts from conversation regarding sexual strategy will be deleted. No exceptions.

.. and finally, just to be sure, you declare all discussion except for "sexual strategy" prohibited.

I'd expect more from a smart guy who's aware of one central aspect of Reality. Why not accept other parts too? Well, besides the fact that reality is a seriously harsh place to live in.

[–]Modredpillschool[M] 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

By me right now in relation to how this sub will be moderated. In the same vein this may not be society's definition, I don't care. We also buck the trend on misogyny, but I think we define it well.

But expanding the definition of racism to cover "everything that might be offensive to someone somewhere" is just bullshit.

Did I say that? No, I didn't. I was VERY specific about what I said.

So, in essence, first you rejected (and prohibited) discussion on issues of race.

Again, I did not say that.

Then, because that would be a bit of a bad start for discussing free speech and what can and can not be discussed, you're rejecting that discussion too.

This has been in the forum rules since before you showed up.

I'd expect more from a smart guy who's aware of one central aspect of Reality. Why not accept other parts too?

I'd work on your reading comprehension before you start talking like that.

[–]jookato0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

By me right now in relation to how this sub will be moderated.

Why yes. That's what I hinted at.

In the same vein this may not be society's definition, I don't care. We also buck the trend on misogyny

You say it like society's definition would be close to mine, but what with all those hypersensitive sheeple roaming around, it's actually much closer to yours. We're bucking the trend only with "misogyny".

Your definition of racism is so wide that it covers whatever you want it to. That was my point, as you're well aware. There's no need for distractions like this.

No, you did that. You have rejected and prohibited discussion, which is all I claimed. Again, stop with the distractions.

Well, it appears you've already failed to follow that rule you're so vehemently brandishing in my face now.

How was my comment inaccurate then? You're smart, but you're rejecting discussion on reality. That seems kind of strange, wouldn't you agree? Any time you try explaining the reality of women to a blue-pill white knight, you're met with behaviour similar to yours now. Raging, burying one's head in the sand, and strawmen as a debating technique.

Can you really not see the similarity?

[–]Modredpillschool[M] 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Your definition of racism is so wide that it covers whatever you want it to.

No, my definition is incredibly clear and narrow: Do not conflate culture with genetics.

No, I have prohibited racist discussion.

It's my sub. If I want to, I'll take a giant shit on the front page. Deal with it.

How was my comment inaccurate then... you're rejecting discussion on reality.

That right there is exactly how you're inaccurate. I'm focusing our group on sexual strategy, and rejecting discussion on racism.

Any time you try explaining the reality of women to a blue-pill white knight, you're met with behaviour similar to yours now. Raging, burying one's head in the sand, and strawmen as a debating technique. Can you really not see the similarity?

I am explaining point blank there is ZERO SCIENCE behind conflating cultural norms and race.

If you are here to troll, you've made that point. Convince me otherwise.

Edit: Too late, honestly you've already detracted enough from our discussion. You have been banned.

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[–]Modredpillschool0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

I certainly agree that if there were a genetic link to behavior found, we could certainly analyze it.

That said, the types of speculations made are unlikely because, as I pointed out in the last thread, the evolution (and deviation) between the genders has progressed for MILLIONS of years, whereas race is in the hundreds of thousands.

Obviously race and culture will be closely tied together because both develop by being separated from other cultures (thus why they're called cultures), however drawing an inextricable link between the two is naive at best given what we understand about genetics.

The likely findings will be differences in aggression, differing levels of certain hormones, but none that even approach the differences between the genders. (a black man and a white man's testosterone levels far closer than between a man and a woman.)

I've seen it on this sub a few times, and I have deleted it. Comments like "that's what she gets for dating a black guy" is racist and will be deleted. If it was "that's what she gets for dating a thug" then we're golden.

[–]jookato-1 points0 points1 point 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link