Is lying blue pill behavior?

The_PUA_Punanny · 2013-08-01T06:33:15+00:00

The key difference is, women will respect you less for any concession you make to them.

If you stop seeing other girls because of her, she will be pleased, but that's because she has gained power over you. Whether she views you as a better person makes no difference because she will not view that as a reason to give you more pussy. There are lots of "good" people she isn't fucking.

The fewer women available to you, the more power any single one has. If you stop exercising your ability to attract new women, it will atrophy, and you will be less and less attractive to whoever is left.

There are only two possibilities for systems involving women: Constant motion, or stagnation.

Keep a plate spinning, because if it stops, it will fall and break.

Every woman's utility takes a nosedive toward zero as she ages anyway.

risqys · 2013-08-01T08:51:10+00:00

Never lie. You will always get caught and when you do (even on the smallest lie) you will lose respect and trust. When I catch someone lying I dont tell them but my attitude towards them completely changes.

Rather than lying just be vague or withhold information. Its hard at first because they will try to nag you.

example:

Girl: Do you want to go out on Fri?

You: I dont know yet.

Girl: Why dont you know?

You: I might have tough day at work. We can do something on Tuesday night if you like.

She will learn that when you say "I dont know" or "Maybe" then its likely a NO. You also manage her expectation and stop the nagging by arranging a different night..etc

Its very important that you are consistent. When you say YES you dont flake out and stick to your date. When you say "I dont know/Maybe" it means a NO.

SoftHarem · 2013-08-01T02:49:33+00:00

Lying is lying. Sexual strategy is amoral. Most of us that have been running harems for a number of years have realized that lying becomes too much effort because you have to remember the lies, and often times create new lies based on the original lies. Keeping track of all these lies is a logistical nightmare, so most of us have a policy of honesty with our plates. Granted, you never come out and just say "hey I'm fucking other women." but they can typically tell based on your behavior. Women, for all of their idiocy, are typically more emotionally intelligent than men. Omit as much information as possible so their hamster can rationalize the fact they have to share you without being told directly. This will also help her become more attracted to you via preselection.

Nutz76 · 2013-08-01T15:24:44+00:00

Lying is Machavellian, which is a dark triad quality. Whether it's red pill or not is debatable, but as a short term sexual mating strategy it has merit.

[deleted] · 2013-08-01T16:09:44+00:00

The question is, why are you lying?

If you are lying because you are afraid or weak, because you think your girls will leave you if you tell them the truth, that is beta.

If you are lying because that is the most convenient one of many valid ways to achieve your goals, that can be alpha- or it can be self-deception and hamsterizing weakness.

My recommendation is never to lie- not because lying is immoral, but because lying is a crutch. My feeling is that if I can't get what I want with the truth, then I don't deserve it; I should invest my efforts into improving myself to the point that I can get what I want without lying.

elheretic · 2013-08-01T05:25:03+00:00

It depends why you are lying. Context is important.

favours_of_the_moon · 2013-08-01T07:41:55+00:00

If necessary you can use vague generalities or ambiguous catch phrases like "It's complicated."

Then gaze off into the distance, like you're comtemplating the depths of existentialism.

In GeistSteuerung, you rely on the Hamster to lie for you. But only if necessary.

Title	Is lying blue pill behavior?
Author	Divorcedredpiller
Upvotes	6
Comments	12
Date	August 1, 2013 2:43 AM UTC (12 years ago)
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