In this sub I notice some interest on LTRs and still see many guys with some romantic notions about women and relationships. There's also been some talk about sluts which, although mostly accurate and useful, I think still reinforces these romantic ideations.
RP is about recognizing the harsh reality and letting go of sweet but harmful delusions. So in the benefit of the men in here who might be still harboring the hope to find that special lady who will love him for who he is and stick by him in sickness and in health, I decided to share the way I've come to view women based on my experience with them in these 34 years. Keeping this in mind helps me immensely in figuring out who I'm dealing with from the get-go and adjust accordingly, and it helps set my head straight when I'm tempted to believe I've found a special snowflake.
Experienced awaken men know you can not expect love, devotion or even fidelity from a woman (therationalmale. com/2012/09/10/men-in-love/) You can only expect a woman to be a woman, for better or worse (rooshv. com/the-true-nature-of-women). But I've found that the way we talk about sluts is way too idealized, even in this sub.
A slut is not just an oversexualized promiscuous woman who dresses provocatively and flirts with everyone. A slut is, and has always been, any woman who doesn't require or respect commitment before sex.
The norm used to be that people would wait for marriage-- the ultimate commitment-- before having sex. A woman who didn't wait was branded a slut. Women who didn't respect other women's marriage or courtship were also branded sluts. The "norm" has become ever more relaxed since then, and society has now basically normalized sex without any kind of commitment. Does that mean no girl is a slut? No, it means that until proven otherwise, every girl is a slut.
Perhaps you think that's too harsh. So let's dissociate the behaviors from the person.
Slutty behaviors:
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Heavy flirting, overly sexualized behavior and heightened promiscuity (the "archetypical" slut);
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"Light" or currently socially acceptable promiscuity: one night stands, casual sex, friends with benefits;
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The thought "I am/want to be in a committed relationship, so maybe I shouldn't do this" never even occurs to her;
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The thought "I am/want to be in a committed relationship, so maybe I shouldn't do this" occurs to her but she does it anyway;
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No filter out of respect for her current man/relationship on what she does or talks about with other people. Even in a relationship she will talk about sex with other men (who might also be in a relationship themselves), discuss past sexual experiences and cocks with her girl friends in a longing manner, have a "girl's night out", etc;
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Flirting with, having sex with, or outright attempting to steal a man who is in a relationship with another woman.
Slut is as slut does. Every guy will have his own threshold for how many offenses, and of what kind, will make any specific girl a slut. Most guys who grew up in this liberal culture are pretty lenient about girls who act like that, mostly because they simply never knew anything different. However, for others, more conservative either due to experience or ideology, one transgression is all it takes to reveal a person's true colors. I find myself somewhere in the middle, but it's still a fact that if a girl engages in slutty behaviors often enough she becomes indistinguishable from a slut, which means that, for all practical intents and purposes, she is a slut.
And our society is now raising girls to behave in all the slutty ways outlined above as "normal" and "healthy" expressions of sexuality. But enough about that. Here are the categories 99.99999% of women fit into when it comes to sluttiness/sexual strategy. With just a little awareness you will be able to identify to which category any one woman belongs, and know exactly what to expect from her.
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Nymphos
Her promiscuity is so severe it's probably mental illness.
- Rare.
- Mostly ends up in prostitution, stripclubs, or porn, as it's one of the few sustainable ways to live with her condition.
- Impossible to have a relationship with. But odds are you will never have to worry about that.
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Hard Sluts
These are the sluts people are usually talking about when they talk about sluts. Addicted to instant gratification, derive their self-worth from casual sex, etc.
- Common.
- Some Hard Sluts believe they want relationships, but they don't live their lives in any way that's conductive to a healthy one.
- Having a relationship with one is entering a world of hurt, only attempt if a she's at least a 9, the sex is great AND you're Dark Triad enough to dish it out worse than you're gonna get.
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Soft Sluts
These make up the vast majority of women these days. You know that nice, unassuming girl who has a "healhty" sex life for modern standards but is not what most would call a slut? She's a Soft Slut. What does that entail?
- Most Soft Sluts are not actively looking for relationships. They are "nice girls" and still have romantic ideations, but they will not refrain from doing anything because of that. Most of them have drank the post-modern cool-aid that it doesn't matter what you do, but "who you are deep down inside";
- Since they are not actively looking for a guy to have a serious relationship with, the only thing they care about is tingles. Get her horny enough and you can have her.
- Most of the time they don't actively pursue sex, like Hard Sluts do, but simply engage in it whenever they fancy. Since they are women, this means they still rack up a high N-count without trying or being aware of it, and this helps them perceive themselves as more chaste than they really are. They know they are not "sluts" and it's offensive that you'd think that.
- With the instant gratification of Tinder and modern hookup culture, they've been dating up and developing the taste for cock, which will no doubt turn a considerable amount of them into Hard Sluts as they approach the wall and the opportunities for sex/validation dwindle.
- Most regular women with a less than active sex life are in that position not because of morals or because they are holding out sex for commitment: their lower N-count is solely because they are not attractive enough to actually land most of the guys they are attracted to. When they do manage to hit one of their targets, or when they do decide to "lower their standards" temporarily and hook up with guys they are not that attracted to because they are horny, frustrated or bored with their spinsterdom, they put out just as freely as any other Soft Slut.
- Very common.
- If you become her Alpha you can have an OK relationship with her. If she has a decent, moral-driven personality, you can be a little more sure of her faithfulness for as long as you remain her Alpha. If not, her cheating on you is probably a matter of time.
I once had a roommate who was a nice girl, funny, smart, didn't dress slutty and didn't put up a sexual vibe at all. She spent most of her time working and studying and watching sitcoms by herself on the couch. She was, by all accounts, the kind of girl you'd probably be happy to have a relationship with and introduce to your parents. She used to bring a different guy home pretty much every other friday. Soft Slut.
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Chaste Slut She's a mix of the Soft Slut and the Soft Chaste (next).
- Unlike the Soft Slut, she's actively looking for LTRs.
- Like the Soft Slut, she's going to have sex with whomever she fancies, but...
- Unlike the Soft Slut, she'll be evaluating the guys on their LTR potential and attempt to lock down the most promising ones.
- Is more prone to mate-poaching and branch-swinging.
- Since she's off the market for extended periods of time, her N-count will be lower, but that doesn't mean she makes for a better partner. She's just as prone to cheating as the Soft Slut, and her propensity to mate-poach and branch-swing means she can be even less moral than a Soft Slut.
- Less common than Soft Sluts.
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Soft Chaste
- Actively looking for LTRs.
- They have better control of themselves and are not slaves to tingles to the extent as the others so far.
- Less prone to engage in casual sex or one-night stands, as she requires more comfort/hamsterization of commitment unless intoxicated or lashing out for some reason.
- As such, most of the time they only have sex with men with whom they see LTR potential first. However, since they are looking for one, a lot of hamsterization comes into play and it makes them less selective in practice than it sounds in theory.
- A lower N-count than the average modern woman.
- If you want an LTR this is the best you can realistically hope for.
- Rare.
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Hard Chaste
- Their goal in life is to marry for life and raise a stable family.
- Saving themselves for marriage. Not that they are all virgins, but they hardly ever engage in casual sex.
- While the Soft Chaste will attempt to hold out for men with LTR potential, the Hard Chaste will attempt to hold out for men they can see as a potential head of the family.
- With the lowest N-count possible and with their self-worth centered around being chaste and faithful, this is the best you could ever hope for for an LTR.
- Unfortunately, you'd have better odds of being struck by lightning, and would probably have to convert to some religion first.
- This still doesn't mean she wouldn't cheat on you or leave you for something better, just that you have more time to get your act together if you slip into beta.
- A con: probably boring in bed. Since her virtue is tied to something bigger than you, she's not likely to risk her eternal soul just to get you off. But since she's so repressed, if you can exploit that, you can get some very exciting "forbidden" sex.
A lot of churchgoers pretend to be like this. During my teens, when I was still religious, I believed most of the church girls who put up this front were genuine. Dating was frowned upon unless it was serious (leading to marriage), and we all knew of some making out occurrences, but there were still the "quality girls" who seemed to have a spotless record, generally the prettier ones. When I left, I was approached by a couple of them and was surprised to find out their secret: they are able to maintain that image simply by hooking up in secret with people outside the church.
Most modern women fluctuate between 2, 3 and 4 throughout their lives, based on their mood and circumstances. Every once in a while they'll say they are "done" with dating/men and will temporarily act like a 5, but it only lasts until the next cock she can hamster her way on top of comes around.
The 5s and 6s are a rare and dying breed, and are forged almost exclusively through strict, stifling religious upbringing, in which great part of her value as a woman comes from chastity and submission. Even this has been changing, though, with mainstream Christianity becoming more feminism-friendly in order to attract more people, so if having a big happy family is your thing you should probably move quick.
Note that these categories are not exactly life-sentences: There are probably women in all of them who are able to have good LTRs for periods at a time and you probably had some good LTR experiences with women in the 2-4 range. There have probably been Hard Sluts who went on to have stable marriages and become devoted mothers and may have not cheated on their husbands.
The point is that the smart money is in not betting on the possibility that they might or can be like that. Don't think you're dealing with a special snowflake when you find a girl more chaste or devoted than you'd give her credit for. Realize you're just the man of the hour, but that could change at any minute.
There's just too much inconsequential sex these days for women to pass up, and without some serious consequences for slutty behavior (e.g. execution (islamic states) or eternal damnation (religion)), women simply have no incentive to deliberately abstain from casual sex, which essentially makes every modern woman a slut.
With every sexual partner a woman becomes less able to pair-bond to the next one, and "as soon as a woman has had more than one partner her long term marital stability risk drops to near 50%" (socialpathology. blogspot. com/2010/09/sexual-partner-divorce-risk.html).
So don't get married and take modern women for what they are: sluts until proven otherwise.
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