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Primates: Some info about the silverback gorilla, and how their groups are structured. Sounds familiar.

dalsgaard

June 4, 2013
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Title Primates: Some info about the silverback gorilla, and how their groups are structured. Sounds familiar.
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dalsgaard

Upvotes 30
Comments 10
Date June 4, 2013 3:05 PM UTC
(13 years ago)
Subreddit Posted in /r/TheRedPill
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[–][deleted] 15 points15 points15 points 13 years ago | Copy Link

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[–]Sub8male 2 points3 points4 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Looks are the most important factor.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 5 points6 points7 points 13 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link

People like to think of humans as more evolved and above behavior like described within this post.

However, we are a product of our environment. Intelligence and other advantages that we have as humans were a result of natural selection. That said, there are still millions and millions of years of evolution of the human species and a mere 100 years is not enough time to remove aspects of our genetic heritage that have become less useful in modern society... That said, I have to wonder if such actions would even be smart because ultimately society could collapse at any point and the reality of the situation is in a state of nature we would be little more than a bunch of very smart monkeys.

[–]Senior Contributorveggie_girl 3 points4 points5 points 13 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link

This is why what is "natural" is not always what is best.

This mating arrangement works for dumb gorillas that live in tribes. They don't have the complexities of industry and civilization to worry about.

As you said we have millions of years of similarities to these dumb apes in our genetic make-up, so we have a "natural" tendency to act the same as them.

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 7 points8 points9 points 13 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link

You know I never did say gorillas or apes were necessarily 'dumb' just that humans evolved advanced intelligence. In comparison to other animals on the planet primates tend to score quite high in relative intelligence.

That said many of the traits that lesser primates exhibit that are not very useful in our civilized and industrious society are ones which evolution has chosen over thousands or millions of years.

I said that many of those traits we suppress would be important if civilization and industry were to collapse. Evolution never goes backwards and is slow to remove vestigial traits of the past in case they are needed in the future but quick to add new and important survivability traits.

tl;dr we're just really smart primates. This is why TRP theory works so well.

[–]Senior Contributorveggie_girl 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link

I'm glad I said it the way I did, because you bringing out this point and proving me partly incorrect makes the information much more interesting.

/serious (Is there a way to keep from sounding sarcastic via text? I do not intend any sarcasm here.)

[–]Endorsed ContributorRedBigMan 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

Text is a horrible means for conveying tone. That's why the internet invented emoticons (which are not perfect but still better than plain text).

That said my own viewpoint is from that of a mild prepper (I am a fan of that show Doomsday Preppers though!). The idea that all the conveniences of a modern society (like grocery stores, running water, sanitary services, electricity and internet) could at any moment be taken away from the common people. That is why people riot and fight and loot and such if a disaster hits. If that happens everyone acts on their more primitive urges as it becomes a case of 'survival at any cost'.

[–]shamanbard 0 points1 point2 points 13 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link

Gorillas are actually quite intelligent. They can communicate with humans via sign language and paint visual representations of things they remember.

Edit: I mean, learn to communicate with humans via sign language. Also, gorillas involved in research have been capable of caring for dogs and cats.

[–]yankeetiger 4 points5 points6 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

This is really interesting, highlights the role of physical dominance quite well.

[–]justdweezil 1 point2 points3 points 13 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link

I should point out that, evolutionarily speaking, humans are much more distant from gorillas than, say, chimpanzees and bonobos. So projecting our social structure onto gorillas (or vice versa) is a bit of a stretch. Please take with a grain of salt.

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