Recently, it has come to my attention that a subset of women exhibit some traits that slightly contradict the laws of hypergamy. This might not apply to you Americans because I live in Europe but still here it is.

Let's begin by stating that of course AWALT and the hypergamous nature of women exists in all of them. The wall exists, and twenty-something women feel it coming near.

However, there is a type of woman who is more capable of bailing on those strong hypergamous feelings than others. She has a couple of traits:

  • 1) She is experienced, both in the CC as in relationships
  • 2) She has not been dumped (a lot), has always/mostly been the dumper
  • 3) She was able to turn her partner into a BB by shit-tests and shitty behaviour
  • 4) She has high SMV and she knows it

When encountering such a woman, she will sometimes decide to bail or go nuclear in the dating-fase. I've met women/girls like this who will shit-test early on and expect you to fail. They've done it before. For them, it's a shit-test not only to assess your alpha traits but also to know if they are capable of controlling you. They have been spoiled down to the core, knowing that they can control and manipulate the largest part of the male population and in that control they deem themselves safe. LTRs have always been one-sided fem-centric endeavors for them. They had guys failing shit-tests daily and gotten used to the benefits of that dynamic.

The effects of this spoiled nature will then be that when this hyperspoiled toddler meets a man of high SMV and that is not easily controllable she will not automatically fawn over him but will be scared of relinquishing that manipulative power. (Yes, all women crave a dominant man AWALT etc. but in these cases the previous relationships have been so beneficial to her that even though she wants a AF, she will be reluctant to pursue him)

When she notices that a high SMV man is not going to bend to her will, she will bail. She knows that there are thousands of BB and high SMV men that will eventually bend to her will so cost-benefit is not in her favour. Yes, she will secretly want the best Alpha there is... but as women settle for a BB when they reach the wall, these women decided that men who are not going to be manipulated aren't worth the risk. They want to have the cake and eat it too. They know from experience that they can get away with all their shit-test bullshit and will make sure to find someone that will let them.

They will find your confidence and frame both intriguing and scary. Only, the scary part prevails in her mind.

Now I don't have a specific strategy for these women, except playing the long game. Let the hamster go crazy. If she decides to bail, chances are she will be back in weeks/months to check whether her shit-tests will now work. This can go on for quite some time and it's good to fuel the fire and contact her once in a while. Also, feigning beta bux behaviour can be a decent strategy. It will diminish her fears of losing control but will not stop her shit-testing you. Start off by showing some beta traits when you notice her backtracking, and gradually ramp up your frame. Her hamster will not be able to keep up when she thinks she's safe and in control.

note: No I'm not trying to argue AWALT or hypergamy. I'm only pointing out that in some cases that I've come across, high SMV and holding frame does not have the exact effects as expected. Some might argue that a guy simply showed too aggressive alpha behaviour too soon and that is often the case. I noticed that these girls all have similar histories and proposed a theory that's all. Also, 'your SMV was not high enough' is not always the answer imho. At least, not in Europe. Having a BB seems more important here than in US and the usual badboy fetish is less prevalent.

Tell me what you think. Ever encounter situations like this? Tactics?

tl;dr AF/BB spoiled and experienced women can be afraid of losing control, will bail on high SMV males that can't be manipulated.