Stop treating the symptoms.

veggie_girl · 2014-05-23T00:10:10+00:00

I agree with most of what you are saying, but your last bullet point is exactly what you are taking issue with:

If you want to fuck, find someone who fucks a lot and copy their strategy.

This is, I believe, what those people are talking about with the be silent/get a tattoo business

Invalidity · 2014-05-23T00:11:16+00:00

This advice is as bad and generalized as "man up". The majority of people here know what to do, they just don't know how to get the motivation to do it or how to get started.

cascadecombo · 2014-05-23T03:16:52+00:00

I'll tell you what is important:

That is what you think is important, that is your version and not necessarily the best one.

You do make some nice points, but don't really explain or point to it properly. Why copy someone elses strategy when it may not work for you or fit your own style?

Telling people when to be silent, or encouraging sports/gym are ways to show others what can work in some instances, and to build confidence and get people started on working on their own betterment.

Daell · 2014-05-23T02:44:15+00:00

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Gstreetshit · 2014-05-23T14:48:40+00:00

Good post. I think the most important thing is staying congruent.

You must do the things externally that you want internally.

If you are getting a tattoo, that's fine. But don't get a tattoo because a girl you want to fuck mentioned in passing one time that she likes tatted up guys.

Strive to be the best version of yourself that you can be, and don't deny what you want or change it for anyone.

I think another good thing is to have a set of core values and to never compromise them for anything. Not even under pain of death.

I do not put up with disloyalty. If someone is disloyal I will cut them out immediately. I don't care if its my BFF from elementary school. If I feel they have been truly disloyal, they are not important to me anymore.

There are others as well that I won't go in to.

But the main thing IMO is being congruent with the best version of yourself.

asd1100 · 2014-05-23T09:56:03+00:00

Great post.

Results require effort. But in our society we need quick low investment results, quick fixes, something that can be bought because we've been educated that money is the universal fixer.

We want outcome without process, and that is extremely unhealthy, you need not only to enjoy the pain of the lift but feed on it, feed on hardship, enjoy the feeling of not being a bitch.

vandaalen · 2014-05-23T12:57:27+00:00

You just need to understand that you should not do anything for the prupose of getting fucked. Everything you do and everything you change, you just do for yourself.

If you do anything because you expect to get more sex of it you just didn't get it and you are still dependent on and looking for validation by women. You need to be eager to get validated by yourself.

Getting more girls is a by-product of all your self-improvement and shouldn't be the motivation, but the motivation should be to become the best version of you that is possible.

redpillbanana · 2014-05-23T17:31:18+00:00

I made a comment in another thread about tactics and strategy that is applicable here:

http://redditlog.com/snapshots/619973

Mastering tactics is not a bad thing to do (dress well, go to the gym, learn common shit tests, eliminate approach anxiety, tell instead of ask, etc) and will help most guys immensely if they haven't been doing these things.

At the same time, you should focus on building your life strategy as well. These are the "important" things you mention, and this is what will ultimately take you to the next level in terms of your happiness.

2014-05-23T17:34:07+00:00

Yep. Also stuff like "have an abundance mentality"...which is retardedly hard to fake unless you actually have abundance.

remember13 · 2014-05-24T05:37:43+00:00

good post, but the examples that you gave are tips given by redditors to other redditors. The Manosphere already said what you said in your post many times. That's why we have the side bar. I agree with you, but we should let people treat the symptoms.

Title	Stop treating the symptoms.
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Date	May 22, 2014 11:11 PM UTC (12 years ago)
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