Intro:
After substantial self reflection, I realize that I’m not a very good mentor.
I’m one of those guys that believes there’s a right way and a wrong way to do everything.
I’ve been writing articles on RedPill for quite a while and while some people have reached out to me for advice in the past regarding girls, I didn’t have a single successful “student” as in not one person I was mentoring actually got laid.
Well, 1 guy did but he went to a poorer country in Latin America for vacation to do so, so I’m not sure if that counts.
And the funny thing is, I believed it was everyone else’s fault. Everyone else’s fault for not following instructions, trying to do things their own way, constantly asking questions about everything.
Yep… the Ego was strong with me…
I literally thought that since I put in 3+ years to get good with women that I could solve anyone’s problems if they just listened to me.
The Journey Begins:
Long story short, I met a frequent poster on RedPill, ItsDantesWorld, we started talking on Discord and he opened up about how he’s having trouble getting laid after his long-term plates fell out recently.
He liked Woujo’s posts so he first reached out to him and learned how to Cold Approach girls in the day, which I really respect because very few guys are even capable of doing it anymore.
Then, he read some of my posts about how to have conversations with girls that actually lead to sex, applied some of the principles, and reached out to me for further clarification.
And thus begins the mentor/mentee journey…
Trials & Tribulations:
From the very beginning, my goal was to adopt a more laid back approach to coaching and give more freedom to the mentee.
Every time I found myself judging something, I intentionally reminded myself that I don’t know everything there is to know, and that what works for me may not necessarily work for someone else, even if they do exactly what I recommend.
I recommended that ItsDantesWorld start out with getting a Fade Undercut style haircut since that’s the trending hairstyle for all races of guys these days.
Initially, he resisted, saying he liked his long hair.. that a Faded hairstyle doesn’t fit his hair, etc… but this time, instead of getting mad, I simply continued to give advice about Tonality, Body Language, and Volume.
Eventually, he decided to get the haircut and lo and behold, the reactions from women went up 3X. Almost every girl he approached would respond positively!
But as one dragon was slain, more rose up (this journey was harder than we both thought lol)
While he had no problems getting numbers/Instagrams and setting up dates, he ended up getting Flaked on a total of 4 times!
Damn…
So I recommended he raise his value by wearing a Blazer, but he reported back that he didn’t notice better reactions from girls as a result of the blazer.
What the fuck? This worked for me!! Why not you??
This was my initial reaction, but I forced myself to consider his point of view and realized we’re going after different kinds of girls. I’m mainly approaching white girls and Asian girls and he’s mainly approaching black girls.
Instead of trying to force my teaching style onto him, we reverse engineered the optimal accessories by studying men who do well with black girls, like Chris Brown. We discovered that almost all of them wear a gold chain type necklace!
So that’s exactly what he got. And as a result, even more black women were now open to his initial approach, even married chicks!
That’s what I’d been missing before… I thought to myself
You can’t just force your own coaching style on someone. You have to make adjustments based on the actual results they’re getting. If they’re getting no results, it doesn’t matter how great I thought my techniques were, they need to be thrown out and replaced with new shit that works.
We also worked on actually sexualizing these conversations and establishing a man to woman frame.
ItsDantesWorld’s biggest weakness when I heard his audio recordings is that all his conversations sounded too gamey – just teasing and flirting every other sentence.
I tried explaining that teasing is better than just being a boring beta but that actually using a sexual tone to establish a man to woman frame from the beginning is what’ll actually get him laid.
After spending like 15-20 minutes nailing the lines and tone, this man finally broke his dry spell and got laid…
The Field Report
ItsDantesWorld met a Hot Black Girl at the mall. Started out talking about how he liked her accent and just having a normal conversation – intentionally holding back from sounding too much like a pickup artist.
When he sensed that she was starting to get bored, he strategically hit her with a Tease (not just teasing for the sake of it but teasing to open a resistant girl up!)
“Why you being so masculine all of a sudden? When we met you were feminine!”
After that, she instantly opened up and became nice again (funny how cold women warm up with the right tease)
After that, he used the Sexual Tone we worked on to establish a man to woman frame and plant the thought of sex in her head.
When Dante tripped and hurt his knee on something, she even started rubbing his leg and trying to make him feel better…
Shit was going so well he decided to go for the close.
Invited her to a hookah bar, got Instagram details, and closed with “I’ll be there, you can meet me there if you wanna have fun too”
Non-needy close.
On the actual date, we had been working really hard to eliminate all feelings of neediness (because neediness is instant pussy repellant) so he went in with the mindset that even if the girl doesn’t show up, he’ll still have a good time smoking hookah.
What do you know? She actually shows up and hugs him!
Again, not too much teasing and flirting, just having a normal conversation and not being afraid to establish a sexual tone and vibe from the beginning. Plenty of touching, whispering hot shit in her ear, etc…
Eventually bounced her to an ice cream place, had ice cream, and invited her home for Darts. She said Yes!
Kissed her when he got home, played darts while continuing to escalate…
LMR, LMR, LMR, Push Pull, Push Pull, Sex.
From his description, mindblowing, amazing ball splattering sex!
Yes, there’s a reason ItsDantesWorld made a sex guide yesterday too lmao
Now he’s dealing with shit like “Are you dating anyone, do you have a gf?” from the girl which means he pretty much has a new plate in the bag.
All and all, this is the first person I’ve ever tried mentoring that didn’t need to fly out of the country to get laid.
Extremely proud of ItsDantesWorld on his remarkable growth. Went from a dry spell to a fuckbuddy in less than 4 weeks.
I learned just as much from the mentor position as he did from the mentee role.
I learned that you have to make adjustments based on the actual results the student is getting. If you try to force feed your “own way” of doing things that worked for you, people will stop listening. They’re not going to sit there with infinite patience.
I also learned that you can’t ever lose patience at a student. Everyone has their own journey. If someone doesn’t want to take your recommendation, give them the freedom to make their own decisions and choices. Nobody likes being micromanaged.
Overall, this is something that is already helping me out in my business (have some Virtual Assistants that I’ve been micromanaging a bit too hard lol, going to put these lessons to use)
And as for ItsDantesWorld, I’m not going to lie and say that his experience is what a typical RedPiller can expect based on that fact that he already had good social skills starting out and already had multiple plates before, just had to break a dry spell.
It was just a matter of fixing the hairstyle and fashion so almost every girl he approached would actually give him a chance instead of autorejecting him right away, in addition to sounding more normal in conversations rather than just teasing all the time.
If you have severe social anxiety problems, are shorter than 5’9”, and look ugly as fuck, it’s going to be a tougher journey for you. You’re going to have to accept that whatever results you’re expecting (sex, gf, etc) isn’t going to happen in the span of 4 weeks and will be closer to 6 months to 1 year (sometimes even longer, depending on underlying issues).
Conclusion & Takeaways:
To people saying, “you guys are fucking losers, this is way too much effort for pussy” all I have to say is we all have different starting points based on genetics, early childhood, and just plain old luck.
I believe that the most successful people tend to be ruthlessly Results Oriented.
They may find that lacking the natural talent of someone else, they have to work twice as hard to get the same results. So what? Results don’t give a fuck about right or wrong, fair or unfair.
Now is there an argument that we could be channeling all this time and energy “chasing pussy” into a more productive goal like building a business or building muscle at the gym?
Absolutely!
But take it from me. ItsDantesWorld honestly didn’t even work that hard. He worked smart by reaching out to mentors from the very beginning.
Starting out, I approached 20-30 girls a night every Friday and Saturday, which equates to roughly 100 girls a month or 1200 girls a year. Yeah… pretty crazy stuff. My results were pretty shit at that time, roughly one lay every 500 girls approached… yep. That’s mindless grinding for ya.
On the other hand, ItsDantesWorld didn’t need to approach that many girls because by learning the basics of talking in a loud, slow voice, having perfect body language & fashion – he got positive reactions from almost every girl he approached. No instant blowouts meant much more meaningful interactions that can actually lead to sex instead of instant rejections.
Yeah, he and I went into the nitty gritty details of even scripting out Teases and lines for Sexualizing the conversation so he wouldn’t blank out in actual conversations with girls, but in terms of actual time spent doing practice, it really wasn’t that much.
It was focused, results oriented, problem solving work, not mindless MMORPG style grinding.
Which leads me to another conclusion. If you’re getting shitty results in the gym or with girls despite putting in tons of effort, putting in even more effort is not the solution.
Smart Work > Hard Work every single time.
If your lifts have been plateaued for weeks, stop mindlessly grinding and figure out what you’re doing wrong. (Most of the time it’s not tracking what you eat in MyFitnessPal or Kronometer, getting shitty sleep, or being prediabetic and having high insulin resistance)
If you constantly approach girls but almost all of them reject you or flake on you, figure out what you actually sound and look like when you’re talking to them. Divorce your ego from it and imagine it’s your friend talking to the girl instead of you, and you’ll notice mistakes that you never would have thought of before.
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